First BCS Cartel Rankings Are Out: LSU #1

FIRST

I’m diggin’ SkyNet…

Computers are better @ forgiving losses to good teams than fans.

The computers aren’t allowed to take into consideration that one of those good teams ass raped us by 38 points. For fans that’s rather hard to ignore.

Oh no! Someone is still grieving. Quiet voices everyone.

Oh no! Someone is still grieving. Quiet voices everyone.

Yup, I’m still largely at Stage 2 with Anger in my grieving process, but I have occasional hints of Stage 5 Acceptance.

Wisconsin plays on the road at night the next two weeks against Sparty and Jorts and Jerseys. The fighting AJ Hawks might win that game. Herron is back and there is still a lot of talent in columbus.

Will OU lose? Possibly to A&M at home or to the Cowpokes, but I just don’t see it even though I don’t think this is a vintage OU team.

The question is, Will Stanford lose? Possibly this weekend or to Oregon, but they also have a good chance at running the table for SEC.

Ohio State’s QB completed one forward pass this weekend.
 
Stanford will lose. You can outscore them. Washington, @ USC, Oregon, ND.

Mizzou could send OSU down.
I agree about Oregon or USC vs. Stanford.
Wisky will go down at Sparty or not at all.

I know about tOSU QB situation this past weekend. I still think they will battle. I give them a better chance than Mich State for some reason. You?

I can’t believe I left off ND. Yes, they will.

Say what you will about Clemson and I think Dabo is almost Les milesian, but they have some exciting play makers that’s for sure. I can’t believe Watkins is a true frosh.

Wisconsin is the real deal this year and can play with anyone in the country.

@Willow01

Sadly if things hold as they are now, they’ll get the patented Boise head pat and a participation ribbon at the end of the year.

I’m pulling for BCS Armageddon, at least 5 teams undefeated in the final Top 10, yet SEC sends a one loss team.

There is no guarantee the SEC represents in the NC game. LSU could beat bama and still lose to Arkansas. The Bama/LSU winner is most likely going to face Georgia which is playing pretty good football right now. Will they be the decided underdog? Yes, but they have the players to compete. Stranger things have happened.

Fuck the Beauty Contest System.

I wanna see hate and discontent at year’s end. I want to see six undefeated champions in the XII, the B1G, the SEC, the PAC12, MWC, CUSA…

No shit, let’s see a total meltdown with the top five all undefeated (well, maybe the SEC loser finishes ranked ahead of an undefeated Boise, but…).

Not likely, no, but… it could happen, and here’s hoping it does.

UGA is not in the same league as an LSU or Bama. They might be playing ok but a 6 point win at Vandy is night and day different than the D they will face with Bama/Lsu. UGA is not a “good team.”

Clemson might pull a Clemson but they are showing how young teams need to play, props to them.

Ark could give Lsu a game but Nov 5 will be a great game.
Aggie/blOu game should be fun as will bedlam.
Wisc has a real shot to be undefeated. Not sure tOsu has a chance but i hope they do.
Osu/Baylor might be a game in a couple of weeks, same day as an undefeated Ksu/blOu.

“Will OU lose? Possibly to A&M at home or to the Cowpokes, but I just don’t see it even though I don’t think this is a vintage OU team.”

At OSU? Maybe. A&M in Norman? Doubtful. Looking for a landmine? Sat. Oct 29th @ K-State. Landry’s still hasn’t played a GREAT road game, although he’s been fairly good on more than an occasion or two. If he plays @KSU like he did @KU, we go down.

OSU isn’t suited to handle an offense like Mizzou’s. They’re set up to overload on the run or to go to a nickel, but they’re not suited to have to defend 5 wide and a guy who can run like Josey. They’ll have to win a shootout.

The only game I see Alabama or LSU losing is to each other. They’re it in the SEC.

I doubt it too, but I think A^M is better than the pokes. I have yet to see KSU play this year. How does the Gandolf the Purple continue his wizardry?

I don’t think Georgia has a good chance although I think they have a better chance against LSU because of the miles factor. Georgia has players to potentially make things interesting if they get some early breaks.

It’s a good league this year, unfortunately Texas is not one of the top teams.

Manhattan is a scary place to play this year. Snyder is ridiculous.

I had to listen to 3 douches complain about Texas’ BCS ranking this morning on local (Knoxville, TN) sports radio. They said that we’re that high only because “we’re Texas”. Idiots then went on to say that Texas was not ranked in either human poll. Freakin’ morons.

I’m pulling for multiple undefeated teams with OU getting left out of the MNC by percentage points.

Feel like the big losers this year will be Stanford. This will only serve to demonstrate why the the PAC-12 wanted us and OU.

They said that we’re that high only because "we’re Texas". Idiots then went on to say that Texas was not ranked in either human poll. Freakin’ morons.

You could argue that the computer polls (which are the only reason we’re ranked) are moronic because they ignore margin of victory. They are forced to treat 55-17 no different than if we lost by one point and computers are “dumb” enough they can ignore what they’re told to.

Telling any objective human that who we win or lose against is all that matters and you can ignore that 55-17 aspect doesn’t work.

Georgia has to beat Florida, which will be coming off a bye and 3 straight losses. Sounds easy enough, but Florida still has a ton of talent and 2 weeks to figure out what to do at QB. If Richt wins that one, I’ll start to believe a little.

You gotta have the second horse in your conference. B12 and SEC have two; Pac-10 and Big 10 only have 1, which is how its always been, despite the expansion. Gotta love OSU imploding, which has to have Delaney’s head exploding.

Why would some random radio yahoos in Knoxville give a shit that Texas is ranked 24th in the BCS?

Nunya -

We’re #21 in Massey’s composite ranking set that includes around 94 ratings sets as well as the human polls. Most of the computer sets use margin of victory.

Why would some random radio yahoos in Knoxville give a shit that Texas is ranked 24th in the BCS?

Because the BOMC has bestowed UT on us, instead of on them. That, and the fact that they wear that pussified Hallowe’en-flavored orange instead of our manly, dried cowshit Burnt Orange.

If he plays @KSU like he did @KU, we go down.

I said the same thing this morning. I also said that if Mizzou had a field goal kicker and Jones played like that, Mizzou might have beat OU. Lots of ifs on that last one….

Manhattan is a scary place to play this year. Snyder is ridiculous.

No doubt. Football Outsiders’ rankings thinks KSU is an average team, but it’s hard to see that when you watch them play. They just don’t seem to make mistakes. Klein/Hubert keep moving the chains, the defense makes enough plays…. The OU @ KSU game could be great. Gameday may be there, may be a night game… sounds like OU @ Mizzou a year ago.

Most of the computer sets use margin of victory.

Huck,

Per Wikipedia: “It should be noted that the BCS once allowed computer rankings to consider margin of victory, but was removed following the 2004 season. Therefore, all six computer systems currently do not include margin of victory.”

Per Wikipedia: "It should be noted that the BCS once allowed computer rankings to consider margin of victory, but was removed following the 2004 season. Therefore, all six computer systems currently do not include margin of victory."

Massey isn’t one of the BCS computer rankings. It’s a composite of 94 rankings, most of which do factor in margin of victory.

Massey isn’t one of the BCS computer rankings. It’s a composite of 94 rankings, most of which do factor in margin of victory.

Again per Wikipedia:
“2004–present”
“Computer Average: The BCS used six ranking systems: Jeff Sagarin, Anderson/Hester, Richard Billingsley, Wes Colley, Kenneth Massey, and Peter Wolfe.”

And from Massey’s website: “look at the BCS column to see the ranking used by the BCS, which does not consider margin of victory or preseason bias.”

We’re #11 in that one. It’s easy for computers to ignore the score. Not so easy for rational individuals.

The funny thing (in reference to my original post above) is that I changed the station to another channel and heard something even dumber. Eric Ainge (former Vol qb) has a show in the morning and he was stating that TN was dominating LSU for awhile. I actually didn’t watch the game but I’m not sure how a team that lost 38-7 could dominate.

When I got back into the car, he was trashing Jarrett Lee for throwing off his back foot and trying to avoid getting hit. He basically called the guy a pussy and said he had no respect for him and the way he played. Now, this is coming from the guy that was hooked on painkillers while at Tennessee.

My memories of Eric Ainge are such that he has no business calling out any other QBs. (maybe I’m remember a different Tennessee QB)

He’s just channeling his Inner Uncle Danny.

It was kind of odd in that it was in no way subtle. He just came right out and said everything but “pussy” when trashing Lee. On one hand, there are lots of QBs that have the tendency to throw off of one’s back foot – Brett Favre comes to mind. It’s not necessarily indicative of a QB trying to avoid getting hit. Secondly, TN got its ass kicked. Thirdly, Ainge went from being a future NFL first rounder (he blew up his Freshman year) to a flameout. Finally, the drug thing.

Just really odd to hear him trashing an opponent’s QB in that manner.

I wonder if Sedale Threatt has any nephews.

Because the media consultant told him that reasonable and accurate doesn’t move the dial, while outrageous and inaccurate does. You’re assuming he’s speaking as a former QB with professional insight into the position, as opposed to a former all-world recruit with an ultra-famous uncle who’s hosting a morning sports radio show in Knoxville and wondering, “How the fuck did I end up here?”

“Clemsony things”. Nice.

I think Massey has logic in his program that says “if Texas, subtract 5 from ranking”. That’s ok though, it provides karmic balance for Sagrin’s “if Texas, add 5 to ranking” logic.

I like Clemson and Wiscy. Stanford will lose to Oregon. LSU struggled with MSU into the 4th so let’s not act like they’re world beaters.

Muito esclarecedor. Obrigado!

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