Big 12 Games Preview - 11/12/11

That the line? Texas by 1.5? Okay, I’m in.

What’s the over/under on how many plays into Saturday’s game does it take for Sheldon Richardson to get pancaked and have a Longhorn O-lineman standing over him asking “Who’s overrated now, BITCH!”

Probably the SEC rubbing off on them already.

Missouri Fan could read this two ways.

I expect the Texas fans to chant “Pac 16!” when they win.

I was most surprised by A&M being favored in Manhattan. And by plenty, too.

Phenomenal -

Will the Border War refer to Illinois non-conference games or to Arkansas in the future? I guess you could claim Kentucky as a bordering state.

The same number of plays it took for Fangupo to “surrender.”

A&M getting that many points in Manhattan can only mean one of two things.

1) Snyder is dead and K State is flying Jonathan Silverman and Andy McCarty in to film Gameday at Bernie’s, but nobody knows but Vegas.
2) There is a critical tapioca and Depends shortage in the Midwest.

Missouri isn’t as bad as their record would indicate.

They played Oklahoma tough, and have played well on the road. Their only home loss was to Oklahoma State by a good margin.

Also as an aside, they’re averaging 35 points per game, and 33 ppg in conference play.

I’ll be happy with a one point victory.

Huck, the Border War will refer to MU/KU in a few years once KU has cooled off. It’s such a financial windfall that KU would be reckless to not play the game. Everyone likes money.

And, as you noted, Mizzou is lucky to have lots of bordering states. 8. UK, Tenn, and Arkansas can all be our new border war team. Maybe Nebraska or Iowa in non-con. It’s good to have options.

I loved the Sheldon Richardson quotes. He was smirking and trying to get a rise out of his linemates. Now all of Texas is pissed. Saturday will be fun in CoMo.

the matchup analyzer predicts that missouri wins, right?

Yes, they’re heavily favored to win 50.3% of the time by the analyzer.

Phenomenal -

I find it subtly humorous that Missouri is counting on money to overcome the way they acted without concern for Kansas as they try to get keep the rivalry alive. Not that I think Missouri administrators have an absolute moral obligation to act in Kansas’ interest, but after all the whining about how unfair the Big 12 is from other places and Texas is greedy, it’s kind of funny.

Great conference partners you guys are. “Yeah, we’ll screw ‘em over if we have to but they’ll come back because of the money.” Welcome to the dark side.

Orangeblood, you’re right – Mizzou’s not bad. Lost some tough games. Made a lot of dumb mistakes at inopportune times (at OSU 5 down by 14 early in the 4th quarter – inexplicable fumble…). Had some costly untimely injuries (against Baylor lost starting FS Braylon Webb (Gilmer, Tx) and brought in Matt White (Keller, TX) who quickly got burned for three TDs). That kind of thing. All American FG kicker went south – missed game winner at ASU, missed two at OU, missed two at KSU….

It’s been a rough year, but I’m not down on the team.

Reminds me – I happened to watch the Mizzou/A&M game at a bar in KC that was hosting an A&M watch party. Didn’t talk to them much, but at halftime one of them asked me if Mizzou fans were calling for Pinkel’s head. I laughed. No, not at all.

In my “what are the chances of Mizzou winning out” analysis I did this morning, I put Mizzou’s chances of beating UT at 47%. I expect it to be close, but also recognize that UT is getting better and has tons of talent. Would be super sweet to beat the Longhorns after beating OU last year.

Huck, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I have no idea what Mizzou is counting on. I’m saying that I want Mizzou and KU to play again and my KU friends and I agree (just had this discussion) that they’ll play again after the hard feelings have warn off and the realization that there’s a lot of money to be made. Also, my KU friends disagree with Bill Self and his “don’t give a flip” comment – and they want him to stop talking like Roy Williams.

I have never said Texas is greedy, so please don’t find me subtly humorous.

I would think there’s more to overcome than an emotional off the cuff comment from a single coach. Their AD issued a release basically saying they wouldn’t play Missouri anymore.

I think it’s likely they schedule you in the future, but there was some thought put into declaring that they wouldn’t. And who knows? Maybe the other ADs are colluding, either directly or in effect, to not play schools that leave the conference. That’s something that they can afford to do as long as the conference is still high profile. I doubt you see A&M popping up on too many Baylor or Texas Tech schedules in the near future, and they need the money more than Kansas does.

Oh, I know KU is hurt right now. The AD and Self make that clear (although I guess Self was saying KU fans don’t care about that rivalry anyway – he’s a strange dude). I don’t like that KU is hurt. I like KU – without a doubt KU is what I’ll miss about the Big 12. Lawrence is a great place to be. For the most part the KU people I know are sad that Mizzou is leaving, but also understand it and concede that if KU had the chance, it’d leave too. That’s just the way it is. They also believe KU will play Mizzou again in the not so distant future (5 to 10 years is the estimate) once the dust has settled.

I really hope they play again. I don’t care about money – I mostly just care about my own good times.

I can see why Kansas is pissed. Without Texas essentially guaranteeing the Big 12 they could very well be looking at life in Conference USA. (I understand Texas is not acting benevolently toward Kansas, we’re all about establishing and preserving the LHN). Missouri, more than any other school precipitated the downfall of the Big 12 first in their attempt to get into the Big 10 and now with the SEC.

Unlike Nebraska, who really did have a legitimate gripe about losing their rivalry with OU during the formation of the Big 12, as well as a bunch of ridiculous whining, what they hell did Missouri have to complain about?

Kansas should be pissed, and I have a feeling it will take a change in administration at KU AND solidification in a new BCS conference before they will play Missouri again.

Huck, the Border War will refer to MU/KU in a few years once KU has cooled off. It’s such a financial windfall that KU would be reckless to not play the game.

I think you’re wrong.

Sheldon Richardson should be pleased w/ the move to the SEC b/c the number of his teammates from TX will drop.

The same will be said of Mizzou’s fortunes.

Joetx, Sheldon won’t be at Mizzou then.

Hiphop, really? Forever?

Forever is a long time. But in the near and/or intermediate term, absolutely.

I would just like to commend Hiphopopotamus on being a good fan. Seriously, he’s a Kansas guy and he apparently still clicks on the weekly Big 12 games preview I post. Meanwhile last year I completely stopped running my ratings and stats after too many embarrassing losses.

Phenomenal—

My simple question for you:

Can Missouri stop the run?

I hope forever is a long time….

I agree that it won’t happen any time soon. Some of that is just based on who KU wants to play in noncon with just a three game noncon schedule. I can dig that. I’m hopnig in five years Mike Leach has the KU program peaking and we’ll all be able to get back together for Armageddon VI. In basketball any MU/KU game at the Sprint Center really just benefits Mizzou because KU can fill that place up and make a ton of money scheduling Emporia State. So, there’s no need there.

@ Hiphopoptamus – Perhaps you or Triston27 can write a “Why KU Won’t Play MU” article (a la http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2011/10/19/why-texas-wont-play-am/)?

Orangeblood, not too long ago I would have said Mizzou could stop the run. Before Okie State, Mizzou was one of the best in the conference at stopping the run. Okie State ran well and then last week Baylor averaged more than 7 yards a carry. Everything kind of went to hell in that game. So, the short answer is, not really.

P. Smith &the orangeblood….
in regard to past and present. Yeah Missouri played OU tough but that was weeks/injuries ago.
Game plan on offense will be simple with dinged up linebackers/defensive backs (sounds familiar-last week)… so just run the hell outta the ball until the backers and backs inch forward so you’ve got ship crossing and Davis/white running deep.
In regard to our defense …… well lets see. Josey (running back) has bad shoulder so let vacaro put a couple good licks on him. Gatti (starting OK) is out for the rest of the season. And last but not least, Franklin (QB) has a hip pointer so just sig jeffcoat, Dorsey, hicks, and school after him and serif he’s a step slow…. I’m bettin he is.
Texas 45
Missouri 14
Oh, and by the way…. the kicker struggled last week because of a bad leg….. expect sub-par or no-show from him ergo my score prediction.
Hook’Em

Excuse the typos as this new smartphone is editing everything and I mean everything.
Above should have been Gatti(starting OL )
HERE’S a great sight to keep up with injuries…. enjoy.

 http://www.statfox.com/cfb/injuries.asp

The starting kicker (All American Grant Ressel) hasn’t played in a couple weeks due to a hip flexor problem. The backup kicker has made a couple short FGs, but missed a 46 yarder at the end of regulation at A&M. I’m sure he’s unreliable, but so was Ressel.

Gatti is out for the year, but he’s never started a game. Not even sure he was on the two deep.

The starting center, Travis Ruth, is hurt. Not the end of the world there.

I will be happy with a victory, but i expect the longhorns will kick the dog snot out of em.

When you get good at something, its hard to stop.

Are we better than Baylor?

Huck,

I am pretty sure I know the answer before asking the question, but for persona interest what is the projections of Boise -TCU?

Power model has 40-22 and the stat model has 35-23. About a 12% chance of a TCU win according to power but 20% according to the stats.

That Arkansas/TN spread is high due to the QB situation and the fact that the Vols couldn’t run on Kansas if they had to. Arky will score points. They’ll give up a few but I think they cover.

I will take Diaz over Muschamp any day. Our defense has improved tremendously—and we are playing with a lot of youth on defense which is also amazing. Diggs is our next super star d back.
Texas wins this one on the road because our defense has improved and because our running game looked so strong. Oline is playing so much better.
TX wins 33 to 21.

Great points altogether, you just received a logo new reader. What could you suggest in regards to your post that you just made some days ago? Any certain?