"…And It’s Good-Bye to AM!"
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 8:06 AM CST
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PrintThursday night will be Texas’ last game with Texas A&M, at least for a while (I expect talks of reviving the game to happen when Dodds is retired and TAMU doesn’t have an AD that refers to our state’s flagship school as "tu"). It will also be TAMU’s last game ever in the Big 12. This is probably as good of a time as any to reflect on Texas A&M’s long, unique history in college athletics. One thing they are known for is their rabid, fanatic, enthusiasm for their sports teams. They are different from other programs. They refuse to let girls lead cheers. They have pep rallies (called "yell practice" in their jargon) before every game, even on the road. We have grown up with them as rivals and are used to their ways (the SEC is in for a shock), and that has led us to not really appreciate the strangeness of some of their practices (you don’t admit how odd you find a brother or sister-in-law until they are divorced out of the family). Let’s go back in history and recall some of their craziest fan stories.
Before there was an "Aggie War Hymn", before the University of Texas called its sports teams the "Longhorns", UT and Texas A&M College had a heated football rivalry, often playing twice each year. Going into the 1911 game, Texas had gone 14 – 4 – 2 in the series, with the games played either in Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, or Houston. Presumably College Station lacked a field adequate for the game.
The 1911 game was played on the afternoon of November 13, in neutral Houston. The Ags entered at 4 – 0, and the Longhorns were 3 – 1. TAMC was favored, as they had beaten Texas in the prior three games played between them. Texas won 6 – 0, and a fan celebrated by grabbing a TAMC banner from the press box and running off with it. Angry cadets chased him, to no avail, and spent the evening assailing celebrating Texas fans in downtown Houston. This was enough for the UT sports administration, as they were already upset with the TAMC coach’s practice of using hired ringers (non-TAMC students who had played varsity football at other schools and showed up to play for money’ a story corroborated by TAMC alum Dutch Hohn in his memoir "Dutchman On the Brazos"), and wrote a letter to the TAMC sports administration notifying the Ags that UT was no longer interested in playing TAMC. Texas and TAMC would not play again until the establishment of the Southwest Conference, with governing rules to regulate the competition.
This incident is the Ur-Aggie- Melee. It has all of the features of subsequent Aggie sports Melees and riots. To whit-
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- Large scale fan violence- the downtown Houston fights initiated by the cadets were written about in newspaper reports.
- "It’s not our fault! They started it!- The Ags had an incident- the theft of the banner- that allowed them to portray themselves as victims defending themselves, and not aggressors. Of course, to any thinking, objective observer, the reaction of the Ags was disproportionate to the initial spur.
- The Ags lost the contest they expected to win and were disappointed.
We will see these repeated again and again. Like a miscreant teenager, they are never at fault, yet they are always involved whenever there is trouble.
On October 30, 1926, the (4 – 1) Aggies visited the (3 – 1 – 1) Baylor Bears at Waco’s Cotton Palace playing fields. 15 years had passed since the 1911 Houston Aggie-on-Longhorn violence. The War To End All Wars had been fought. Women were allowed to vote. The drinking of alcohol was prohibited. It was a quieter nation. Except on Saturday afternoon in Waco.
The Ags were trailing at halftime when the Bears drove a car onto the field as part of a halftime show mocking the Aggies. In the car, Baylor co-eds held up signs listing the scores of prior Bear wins over the Ags. TAMC students, offended by the Bears’ introduction of reality and facts, ran onto the field. The affronted farmers mistook the Co-eds for men in drag (I have no idea if this speaks more poorly of the Aggie men or the Baylor women) and slugged them. The Baptist men responded in kind. A riot ensued, per all reports won by the Bears. It ended when the Aggie band started playing the National Anthem (this was a simpler time). Unfortunately, Charles Sessums, a senior class Aggie from Dallas was injured and died that night from a blood clot in his brain.
Aggie lore says that the cadets loaded a howitzer onto a train bound for Waco in order to exact their revenge, until turned back by a Texas Ranger. All attempts to corroborate this story have been unsuccessful, leading you to think it’s another example of Aggie BS. The TAMC president and Baylor president met for 10 hours to repair the schools’ relationship, and had enough success that the schools did not play the next five years.
Again, we see the three familiar elements:
- Large scale fan violence
- "It’s not our fault! They started it! They made fun of us."
- The Ags lost, 9 to 20.
- In the 15 years since the last incident, there had been no similar fan riots involving other Texas schools.
On November 17, 1973 the (2 – 6) Rice Owls met the visiting (5 – 4) Texas A&M Aggies at Rice Stadium in Houston. Much had changed since the 1926 Baylor riot. For one thing, A&M had become a university. For another, not all students were cadets, and many were female. One thing hadn’t changed- losing games they expected to win still turned the Aggies into hyper-aggressive sourpusses.
The Ags were losing at the half, when the notorious Marching Owl Band performed a typical (for them) halftime show that mocked the foibles and conceits of their visitors (it has been suggested that perhaps they were misled by how well they were received in Austin that year into thinking they could really let loose with the Aggie jokes). They play-marched, and even goose-stepped for a bit. They made fun of the Aggies’ dog mascot. The Aggies were not amused. Their response was to chase the MOB off the field, and stand outside their locker threatening violence for hours after the game.
http://mob.rice.edu/history/scripts/files/1973/19731129-thresher.shtml
So, you again have:
- Not large-scale fan violence, due to the police presence, but definitely an over-reaction.
- "It’s not our fault. They started it! They made fun of us."
- The Ags lost 20 – 24.
- In the 47 years since the Baylor incident, a lot of college football, often heated, had been played in Texas. There had been no riots or mob threats.
On a Halloween afternoon in 1981, at Texas A&M’s Kyle Field, a goofball masquerading as a soldier provided us with an iconic image of Aggie sportsmanship and hospitality. The (5 – 2) Aggies were hosting the (6 – 1) SMU Mustangs, and faring poorly (the Ags would lose 7 – 27). The male Mustang cheerleaders had a practice of throwing their bodies onto the ground after a score, spelling out in sequence S – M – U. This was not a new practice, nor a rare one (UT male cheerleaders did the same, except, obviously, spelling U – T). The point of doing this on the field (typically, 5 yards in from a sideline) was to be visible to fans.
An Aggie Cadet was Officer of the Day for TAMU, which he interpreted as being the sheriff of Kyle Field. This would-be oficer took umbrage at the SMU cheerleaders’ actions, believing they were breaking a rule by walking onto the field of play. Now, this is where Aggie tradition collides with actual regulations and leaks over into myth. There was no formal rule prohibiting cheerleaders from the field. There were rules limiting field access only to those associated with the game – players, referees, trainers and the like. Now, obviously this rule was not strictly enforced by Texas A&M or by anybody else that has a similar rule. Think of the guy in the red shirt whose presence on the field signals a TV broadcast commercial break. Think of those honored with presentations during breaks. Think of the grounds crew picking debris up. The rule is there in order to give the local security personnel the authority to keep things in hand.
The cadet believed (or so he stated afterwards) that Kyle Field was a memorial to Aggie war dead, and so required special protection. This claim is unsupported by facts (there was never a memorial ceremony) and tradition (Aggie students and alums run all over the field after games, with no pause required to recognize the sanctity of the place). One suspects that the Aggie was really upset over the fact that SMU was crushing the Ags, and their fans were openly enjoying it. He was Officer of the Day, and felt he had to take action.
What action would be appropriate? Should he lodge a complaint after the game, to keep it from happening again? Should he ask for the cheerleaders’ sponsor, to request they stay on the sidelines? Should he approach the cheerleaders himself? Should he ask official stadium security personnel to order the cheerleaders to cease?
No, he decided to put an end to it himself, as a swashbuckling man of action. The next SMU score led to the cheerleaders spelling SMU again. On the "S" formation, the cadet ran onto the field (this could be considered a violation of the sanctity of the field in itself, but evidently the cadet quickly balanced posse comitatus vs. natural law vs. citizen’s arrest precedent and waded in) and kicked at a cheerleader. He then drew his ceremonial sword and brandished it. Unfortunately, this man of action was no match for the quick thinking cheerleaders, who quickly formed the "Three Stooges" formation where one kneels on his fours behind the target, and another pushes him. Luckily, nobody was cut. It fell to a policeman and Aggie defensive back to restore order by removing the cadet from the field.
This isn’t precisely an example of Aggie fan violence, but it illustrative of the Aggie mindset towards rival behavior that …just…can’t…be…tolerated. Also, as we’ll see later, this is not the only example of Aggie game spirit personnel acting out, with no counter-examples from other schools.
The Aggie cadet in question was disciplined, and the rules changed (at the time; I don’t know if they are still this way) disallowing swords on the sidelines. This was during a time when the Texas A&M administration was sane.
On December 2, 1995, Texas and TAMU played their last game as SWC rivals (Rice and UH would play the last SWC game ever later that night). Texas was 9 – 1 – 1, and ranked 9th. The Ags were 8 – 2 and ranked 16th. The last SWC championship ever was at stake, pitting the team that had dominated the conference’s history versus the team that had dominated of late.
It was a low-scoring, hard-hitting affair. Texas’ ground game, led by freshman RB Ricky Williams’ 163 yards, carried the day. Gimpy QB James Brown turned in a gutty performance under the Aggie blitz. Texas never trailed, and won 16 – 6 before over 76,000 fans.
Things got ugly after the game. Texas fans spilled onto the field, to be attacked by TAMU Corps ROTC students, allegedly "protecting the field". It was ugly, as several Aggies swung at Longhorns (male, female, child) before cooler heads could intervene. The Aggie excuse again was that the field was "sacred", required violence to defend, and the Texas fans started it. There were no arrests and no apologies.
Note that the stadium in Austin actually is a "memorial" to war dead from Texas (as commemorated by various monuments throughout) and that the Aggie players and students felt no hesitation in running on it after wins in Austin. Also note that it is shameful and revolting for "men" training to be officers to physically assault any civilian unless said victim is a threat to people or (sometimes) property. You would never, ever see similar actions from West Point, Annapolis, or Air Force Academy cadets. This was an incredibly ugly act by the Aggie Corps, tolerated by their SWC peers because…well, that’s just the Aggies.
Again, we see the three familiar elements:
- Large scale fan violence
2 . "It’s not our fault! They started it! They walked on our field."
3. The Ags lost, 6 to 16.
4. In the 22 years since the Rice incident, there had been no fan riots or attacks involving other schools in Texas.
On November 3, 2001, the (7 – 1) Texas A&M Aggies went on the road to Lubbock to take on the (4 – 3) Texas Tech Red Raiders. The Red Raiders won a (surprising) defensive struggle 12 – 0. After the game, the hometown fans (many of them high school kids) poured out of the stands and tore down the goal posts. They paraded them around the stadium before charging a collection of Aggie fans in the visiting fans section, starting a melee.
The TT fans were clearly at fault here. That said, it’s a mistake to portray the Ags as innocent victims, as if a similar assault could or would be perpetrated on any visiting fanbase in an upset win. For one thing, 15 minutes after the game was over, the Aggie fans were still in the stadium. Why? To practice their yells, because of a tradition that they lost because the fans did not support the team enough, and so now had to do penance.
No other fanbase does this. The Red Raiders have upset Texas and OU in the same stadium, and 15 minutes, heck 5 minutes, after the game is over, the visiting fans have cleared out.
That’s not reason enough to blame the Aggies, but there is more still. While the teenage Tech fans were parading around the stadium with the goalposts, the Aggie fans started taunting them and throwing ice. This serves as a good example of why it’s a good idea to leave a stadium after a loss- you’re not going to see any celebrative behavior that makes you feel good, and you run the risk of being dragged down to their level.
A funny thing about this fan riot- the initial Aggie spokesman was Dr. Mike McKinney, Rick Perry’s Chief of Staff, and father of Aggie AA center Seth McKinney. His face had been bloodied in the attack, and he described the chaotic scene to the media, likening his defense of his fellow Ags to Davy Crockett’s defense of the Alamo. Later info came out that he had actually been clocked by a fellow Ag, who was trying to get him to stop swing his binoculars around like a mace for fear that they would injure other Ags, rather than the intended targets of pubescent children. Dr. McKinney, confident that the real story wouldn’t get out, had lied to the press about the details of the attack, and has been silent on the matter since.
And, once again,
1. Large scale fan violence
2. "It’s not our fault! They started it!" (The Ags are right about this. Now, Tech "started it" 30 minutes after the game was over, but still…)
3. The Ags lost 0 – 12.
- In the 10 years since the Lubbock incident, Tech (and all other Texas schools) has managed to not engage in any other fan riots.
The Ags received an apology from the TT administration, something that no victim of Aggie crowd violence has ever obtained. This riot was not initiated by the Ags, but in my mind serves as a great support of my contention that whenever there is college football fan violence in this state, the Ags will be involved, and it won’t be their fault.
The last episode of note occurred on December 2, 2005, when the (5 – 5) Ags hosted the (10 – 0) #2 ranked Longhorns. The Ags made a good showing that day, losing to the eventual national champs 29 – 40. There was a little scene before the game when an Aggie cadet flung horse manure onto the seated Longhorn band, as he trailed a horse around the track before the game. Evidently, this disgusting act was motivated out of ignorance and spite, and the cadet was eventually arrested and charged with a misdemeanor.
Reading the Ag message boards after the game was amusing. First, there was shame, and disbelief that an Ag could act so shamefully. A poster suggested that maybe there was a reason. Maybe the Longhorn band provoked him somehow? But how could they? Another poster suggested that maybe the Horns were alarming the horses, and the Ag was actually being gallant in protection of the beasts and their riders. That suggestion was jumped on, and if you bring this incident up today on an Ag message board, you will be met with scores of posts claiming this was a justified response to an aggressive action by the Longhorn Band.
All of which is pure BS. First off, that’s a slur against the Longhorn Band, which has no record of acting out in a malicious manner. There were no such claims at the time, nor any such defense by the cadet charged. Second, even if the cadet were provoked in some manner, how is throwing manure at a bunch of strangers (several of them female) any kind of reasonable response, especially from somebody training (in theory) to be an officer? Obviously, it isn’t. An appropriate response would have been to complain to his leadership, to stadium security, to anybody with the authority to govern the situation. A .gif of the incident shows how it actually happened- the trollish young cadet was passing the seated Longhorn Band, quickly shoveled manure at them, and looked straight ahead with a smirk at the cleverness of his churlish act.
Only in College Station, or to be more precise, only with the Ags. There are plenty of heated rivalries in college football, with plenty of bad behavior. Somehow, things only truly get out of control when Texas A&M fans are involved. It’s ironic, given that they are the classiest fanbase around- just ask them (I freely admit that Longhorn fans can be classless and tasteless). Honestly, I fear for Texas fans at College Station Thursday night should the Horns upset the Ags. Granted, our fans may deserve it for yelling, "Poor Aggies" (might be worth it).
So, this is what we’re losing in this rivalry, even if only for a few years. Whenever there is any kind of fan riot, you can be sure that one of the teams involved is Texas A&M. The Aggies have a mixed record in such events- they can count wins against Texas fans and the Rice Band, but losses against Baylor students, SMU cheerleaders, and Lubbock teenagers. They’re yours now, SEC. No exchanges, no returns.
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Sorry. I never learned the words to that songs…always just went, “ah-da-da-da-da-duh-da!”
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 8:14 AM CST reply actions
Thanks for that critical piece of info, Tex Long.
by Orangeblood79 on Nov 22, 2011 8:21 AM CST reply actions
I wasn’t correcting anything. Just quoting a part of Texas Fight (I’d say Texas Taps, but…) that we may or may not wish to change, but which now has more meaning than ever. As well, it sums up my attitude, and I suspect that of many of us who have had all the fun we want with agy.
by Tex Long on Nov 22, 2011 8:22 AM CST reply actions
“…and it’s goodbye to those ass clowns, hopefully for what remains of my life.”
by coolhorn on Nov 22, 2011 8:35 AM CST reply actions
The Tech incident DOES really undermine your thesis, but otherwise good show.
by withaplum on Nov 22, 2011 8:36 AM CST reply actions
I look forward to playing the Ags in the National Championship game after they win the SEC.
(snark)
by Yellow Dog on Nov 22, 2011 8:41 AM CST reply actions
The Tech incident actually strengthens his thesis. Does anyone really think any other fan base’s presence would have seen a result even close to what happened? Of course not.
by Huckleberry on Nov 22, 2011 8:43 AM CST reply actions
“The Tech incident DOES really undermine your thesis, but otherwise good show.”
Not really. TT was at fault, but that was an incident that never happens against any other school. In 2002 and 2008, the Texas fans cleared that stadium within minutes of game’s end. In 2005, 2007, and 2009, same with OU. Only the Ags hang around to be taunted and harrassed.
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 8:45 AM CST reply actions
I don’t have an uncompetitive bone in my body, and have never said this in all my years of watching Texas. But I’m largely apathetic to the outcome Thursday. The fact that our chances of victory are poor may be contributing to that, but that’s not all.
At the end of that day, win or lose, we are done with these freaks for at least a decade. They will not be coming to our stadium(s) anymore. They will not be occupying our message boards (A guy can dream, right?). I’m galvanized from our impending loss by the hope that on some capacity our interactions with this group will be scaled back.
by hg03 on Nov 22, 2011 8:46 AM CST reply actions
Not fitting in with your criteria but kellen hurd’s late/cheap shot on colt was one thing but to see their fanbase laugh and refer to bin as “cart” Mccoy really tells me about their fanbase. I know ags in person who justify the hit because “he had it coming” and “its a war on the field.”
I’m glad they are gone.
by craigbiggiosdirtyuniform on Nov 22, 2011 8:59 AM CST reply actions
Great read.
I really want to beat these assholes.
by JoeT63 on Nov 22, 2011 9:02 AM CST reply actions
I am looking forward to being done with their over inflated sense of self importance. I can’t remember when they have contributed to the lore of the SWC or the Big 12 yet they demand to be treated as equals in all respects. We are finally free to ignore them since their fortunes in no way intersect with ours. They want a larger place on the national sports stage and now they have it. I don’t think they are prepared for the reaction they will receive.
by Big Al on Nov 22, 2011 9:13 AM CST reply actions
I kind of wish they joined the Big 10 just to see a full scale riot when they visit Columbus.
I’m not sure that behavior is going to fly in Baton Rouge. Those drunk cajuns can get a bit feisty when provoked.
by stuckinmn on Nov 22, 2011 9:14 AM CST reply actions
Don’t forget about the “no breakfast” game in aggieland
by Densagain on Nov 22, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions
It will be nice to see them go.
But prepare yourselves, because Thursday night and on through the weekend, it’s going to get ugly in here.
They’ll come out of the woodwork.
by Orangeblood79 on Nov 22, 2011 9:21 AM CST reply actions
I predict a new episode will be added to this list after Thursday – despite who wins.
by Ty on Nov 22, 2011 9:29 AM CST reply actions
Any updates on our new Thanksgiving rival? ND hopefully?
by LosHorn on Nov 22, 2011 9:41 AM CST reply actions
I’d put the Citizen Kane clap if I knew how to add pictures to the comments. Well done.
by jc25 on Nov 22, 2011 9:50 AM CST reply actions
LosHorn- what Texas and Texas A&M are discovering is that the only realistic Thanksgiving matchup is against a school with a sizable fanbase in easy driving distance (turns out that fans like their Thanksgivings with family). ND and TT don’t really qualify for Texas, nor does LSU for TAMU. Look for TCU-Texas (There are enough Texas alums in the DFW area, and enough TCU fans willing to drive 3 hours for the Austin games).
The Ags should probably be talking to UH for Thanksgiving games.
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 9:56 AM CST reply actions
I hereby predict the first aggy fan violence will be when an unranked Vanderbilt squad comes to Kyle field in an early season SEC game and knocks off a preseason top 10 ATM team.
by Echo Base on Nov 22, 2011 10:01 AM CST reply actions
My dad really, really wants to go to the game Thursday, but I keep telling him no way in hell. I rarely feel completely safe in B/CS, and every time I go my car gets vandalized, presumably due to the UT sticker and Texas Exes license plate surround.
I am seriously concerned that there’s going to be violence off the field, especially if we win but even if we don’t.
by adt2 on Nov 22, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions
It sucks that Texas will probably lose Thursday to those ‘tards. I for one will not miss them, I hope they enjoy the anal penetration they will receive over and ove in the SEC. It might help that we don’t play, but I suspect that they will still be a pain in the side at family gatherings, little league sporting events, etc. They can’t help it, it’s in their DNA.
But gosh what epic giddiness will I feel if Texas somehow wins the last game (for the foreseeable future) at Kyle Field and put them at .500 for the season. A guy can dream can’t he?
Great writeup. This site just kills it compared to Orangebloods and 247 for commentary and historical analysis. Thanks guys.
by Holy Cow on Nov 22, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions
Goodbye and good riddance to the fighting Neidermeyers and their fake army. What a collection of freaks…
by Marine One on Nov 22, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions
After OU’s comback win over A&M in 2000 in College Station, several OU fans tried to storm Kyle Field (myself included). We were met by four sword brandishing cadets. Knowing their reputation from the other Texas schools (remember at that point we had only been conference mates for five years and we were just starting to get a taste for their behavior), I just stopped and turned around. Most of the other OU fans did too. It wasn’t worth it. That is why there isn’t much notoreity surrounding the incident, but it did happen. I’m glad to see those assclowns go.
by OU guy on Nov 22, 2011 10:30 AM CST reply actions
As a neutral party, I went to the 2007 UT-A&M game in College Station After hearing so much talk about the hate in this rivalry, I frankly was amazed at how little hostility there was in the tailgating lots and stands. It had the non-combative feel of a Minnesota game; both sides just ignored each other. Perhaps this year will be nastier…
Now games involving Nebraska-Colorado, Iowa-Iowa State, or any matchup involving LSU, Wisconsin, or Ohio State brings out truly horrifying fan interactions.
by Ojnab Bob on Nov 22, 2011 10:36 AM CST reply actions
Ojnab Bob, you have to understand. TAMU is the “eccentric” in-law, that you don’t admit out loud as being bat-*hit crazy until they’re divorced out of the family. You make nice with them around, because you know just how skewed their world view can be.
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 10:39 AM CST reply actions
Jagvocate -
That’s probably the best and most succinct explanation for roughly 100 years of Aggie fan conduct. Your clarity and brevity are to be applauded.
by nobis60 on Nov 22, 2011 10:45 AM CST reply actions
They’ll be gone, but they’re not really gone. They’re still in the state of Texas. Aggies are still in government and elsewhere.
On the plus side, their research programs (their academic side as opposed to their football id), will still produce interesting and important results. Whenever I see “researchers at Texas A&M” I never think of football. Their researchers produce some good work. I don’t even think of them as Aggies (because, mostly, they’re not; they just work at Texas A&M).
No, they are not gone, just irrelevant.
by lurkerinthedark on Nov 22, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions
“I’m not sure that behavior is going to fly in Baton Rouge. Those drunk cajuns can get a bit feisty when provoked.”
I can’t be the only one hoping for this, right?
by NateHeupel on Nov 22, 2011 11:01 AM CST reply actions
We are the mujahideen of Texas. No wonder DeLoss is scared to schedule us anymore.
Hide yo wimmenz – hide yo chillunz – we’ze comin a-rapin and a-pillagin!
We also will have eternal scoreboard until DeLoss gets his panties outta his ass.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions
I worked with a couple of guys from Nebraska who attended the 1995 game. They’d just moved to Texas, started a business, and since they were big football fans they jumped at a chance to drive down the road to see some SWC football.
To this day, they are aghast at what they saw after the game on the field: aggie “men” beating the shit out of young women. I guess they went for the soft targets, first.
Wilson said it best: “fuck ‘em, they’re trash.”
by spider on Nov 22, 2011 11:09 AM CST reply actions
“We are the mujahideen of Texas. "
Especially you, A-I-T.
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 11:31 AM CST reply actions
By the way – I’ll play along a bit.
How can you assess some blame for violence to A&M fans who remained in the stands after the Tech game in 2001 and assess NO blame to Texas fans who rush the field when they were the VISITORS at Kyle Field in 1995?
If I rushed the field at TMS/DKR/JJF/M-O-U-S-E, I would expect to be beaten senseless (moreso than i usually am) and spend the night as a guest of the taxpayers of Travis County.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 11:43 AM CST reply actions
Look, there is bad behavior, and there is violence. If I run out on a “sacred” field, I’m being a jerk, but not as big of a jerk as a guy who punches me. That’s why we have laws and law enforcement. People act like jerks at sporting events, but calmer heads are supposed to prevail.
If you’re at a game with your family, and somebody is cussing a blue streak, and doesn’t stop when you ask, you have three potential responses- deal with it, complain to an usher (who will probably expel them), or make him (or her) stop. The first two responses are the reasonable ones.
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 11:59 AM CST reply actions
“How can you assess some blame for violence to A&M fans who remained in the stands after the Tech game in 2001 and assess NO blame to Texas fans who rush the field when they were the VISITORS at Kyle Field in 1995?”
Because.
by Capt. Insano on Nov 22, 2011 12:18 PM CST reply actions
You guys need to slow down a bit so now I need to add we are vikings or hooligans to the list of reasons Dodds won’t schedule A&M ?
by Aggie Lurking on Nov 22, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions
Ag_in_TX said: “We also will have eternal scoreboard until DeLoss gets his panties outta his ass.”
Eternal scoreboard? 75-37-5. There’s your eternal scoreboard.
Longhorns, just remember the inscription on our Tower: “Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free.” It’d take the Aggies AT LEAST 38 seasons to even attempt to claim victory in this rivalry. The winner is clear.
But we know how they hate stats, facts, and truth in general, so don’t be surprised when they carry on ignoring the obvious.
by txTDM on Nov 22, 2011 12:36 PM CST reply actions
Seems as good a time as any to reprise the “Top Ten Reasons Texas A&M is Moving to the SEC” list:
10. It’s all Texas’ fault.
9. See number 10.
8. More sheep per capita than in the Big XII.
7. A&M will bask in the glory of a national title in football when Alabama, LSU or Florida win one again.
6. A&M will be competitive in the SEC. At least we can beat Missouri… Crap!… OK, At least we can beat Vanderbilt!
5. A&M’s all-male cheerleaders, or “Yell-leaders”, will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It’s like “Deliverance”, but it’s real.
4. (Moving to the SEC) was a hundred year decision that we made in less than a few months that we won’t regret for at least a couple weeks.
3. Because Deloss Dodds is our daddy.
2. At least someone will appreciate our national title in “Meat Judging”.
And the number one reason is moving to the SEC is:
1. That was ten, wasn’t it?
by stevo67 on Nov 22, 2011 12:36 PM CST reply actions
You don’t assess blame to the Texas fans because they were doing what the A&M fans did the year previous, 1994, when they won in Austin. The Aggie fans rushed the field and had a good time at UT’s expense. Many of us Texas fans were pissed off but there is nothing really wrong with enjoying your team winning even if it is on the opponents field.
In 1995, the Texas fans were doing the same thing. They didn’t mean disrespect. They weren’t there to vandalize. They wanted to be on the field to soak in the moment. At that point in history, Texas had lost 4 straight to A&M with most games not even being close. It was for the last SWC championship and everyone knew that the game was going to be a turning point in the rivalry. It was only the Cadets who did anything wrong.
In Lubbock in 2001, both groups were at fault. Tech fans have every right to tear down their goal post. However, taunting is not good either way, but BOTH groups did it. The A&M were unbelievably stupid to taunt a large group of fans carrying a goal post though. And even more stupid when they decided to stay and fight when the Tech fans were trying to deposit the goal post in the visitor section.
by Monahorns on Nov 22, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions
And thanks TaylorTRoom for the history lesson. I always appreciate nostalgic reminders of the good ole days.
by Monahorns on Nov 22, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions
“Eternal scoreboard? 75-37-5. There’s your eternal scoreboard.”
Beat me to it.
by nordberg on Nov 22, 2011 12:48 PM CST reply actions
Weren’t tech and ATM involved in a basketball/crowd brawl back in the Tony Barone years?
by roach on Nov 22, 2011 12:52 PM CST reply actions
You gents are obviously confused about what the term “scoreboard” means. But then again – most denezins of Austin are in a perptual state of confusion about a great many things – gender identity, sobriety and grooming habits related to shaving are all suitable examples.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 12:53 PM CST reply actions
no one mentions the fact that aggy trolls came into DKR and cut the horns off of the Longhorn at midfield on the old artificial turf… True destruction of property…
by Longhorn Josh on Nov 22, 2011 12:54 PM CST reply actions
“WE SHALL CUT OFF THE HORNS OF THE WICKED” – Aggie mujihadeen battle cry
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions
Just wait until Thursday night – you have no idea the lack of sportsmanship we are capable of showing. You guys will be talking about Thursday night for a long, long time.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 1:14 PM CST reply actions
“BUT THE HORNS OF THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL BE LIFTED UP”
Read the book if you’re going to quote from it.
by I Must Be Old on Nov 22, 2011 1:20 PM CST reply actions
Lest we forget the late 80’s when a number of ag football players push, shoved, and knocked down band members coming out of the locker room (band was in formation around the track waiting to finish the march into the stadium). Innate fear of tubas – or just plain asses?
I think that was also the year (or there abouts) where several ag students cut the horns off Bevo – literally cutting up the middle of the field. Brilliant stuff.
The thought of listening to these ’tards about scoreboard forever will drive me crazy. But at least they are gone… of course the way things seem to be going, we may be playing them each December in Shreveport.
by Spastic Synapse on Nov 22, 2011 1:36 PM CST reply actions
what a load of BS article. you’ve conveniently left out plenty of other tussles/fights among other team fan bases, plenty with Tech, TCU and SMU off the top of my head.
by hotdam on Nov 22, 2011 1:47 PM CST reply actions
’Just wait until Thursday night – you have no idea the lack of sportsmanship we are capable of showing. You guys will be talking about Thursday night for a long, long time."
What a sad little man.
by hg03 on Nov 22, 2011 1:51 PM CST reply actions
“Weren’t tech and ATM involved in a basketball/crowd brawl back in the Tony Barone years?”
Yes. A&M’s coach and a couple of players attacked some Tech fans after a game. I believe the A&M players knocked a few Tech fans out and then had to deal with lawsuits.
As for the Goalpost incident, I was there. It was a bunch of High School kids led by 12-year old Vincent Valdez. The fans were trying to carrying the goalpost out the SW corner and like they did 2 years prior, then the Aggies fans starting taunting them and waved to “bring it on”. So the pack of High School kids did, and what happened was Aggie-on-Aggie violence and more lies from Aggie leadership.
Aggies are the worst fanbase in the country, because not only do they do the exact same typical BS that every other fanbase does, but Aggie denies this and proclaims they are the best fanbase in the country. Ready to be rid of that hypocritical trash.
by Tim on Nov 22, 2011 1:52 PM CST reply actions
Tim weighs in – we now have achieved an idiot quotient on this thread of 1.000.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 1:57 PM CST reply actions
roach-
Yes. And a little known fact from that incident is one of the main Tech guys involved is the son of a UT basketball player from the early 60’s.
by justhookit on Nov 22, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions
I saw an incident that has not been mentioned. As I recall, it was in the 1955 UT-TAMC game that Texas won 21-6. It may have been 1957 when the Royal coached Horns beat the Bryant coached Aggies 9-7. Both were in college station and both were won by Texas. My parents took my brother and me to both games. My brother and I wound up with seats in the end zone near the UT students. When the game was over, the UT fans charged the field and tried to tear down the goal posts. The Corps of Cadets stormed the field to defend the goal posts. The UT fans were quickly routed and chased from the field except for the the one poor soul who had climbed the goal posts to help pull them down. The Corps Srs drew their sabers. stood under the guy swinging them over their heads yelling “Jump” at the guy standing on the crosssbar. I did not see how it was resolved because my older brother quickly got me out of the area.
This is one of my most vivid childhood memories.
Since I was living in Houston, I attended the 1973 Rice-AM Game. Rice was ahead at halftime. The MOB started the halftime performance with the Trumpet fanfare and first few bars of the Aggie War Hymn and broke into the Mickey Mouse Club theme song. The Aggies in the crowd were incensed. As the show progressed the murmur of dissatisfaction became a roar.
The Ags came out fired up at halftime and stormed back to take the lead with a minute or so left in the 4th quarter. The team’s comeback had quieted the crowd. Justice had been served.
The Aggies kicked off and Rice ran it back for the game winning TD. Them the murmurs returned and grew to a roar. The Mob had to take refuge in the Dressing room area under the stands. The Aggies would not let them leave the stadium. The MOB were eventually evacuated in Catering service vans.
At the time, I was convinced that if Rice had not won on a return at the end of the game, all would have ended peacefully.
by JB on Nov 22, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions
Nice piece TaylorTRoom. Here’s the clip from the Corps member shoveling horse manure on the LHB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOJxUeyhhpQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
To their credit, ACTUAL military officers (probably A&M ROTC staff) immediately collared him. You can tell by their body language they wanted to kick his ass.
There are plenty of things I’ll miss about A&M; the 60-70% of Corps members that NEVER go in the military are not among them.
I’d love to see a ’95 game again for all the historic reasons. Hook ’Em!
by 40 Acres and a Mule on Nov 22, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions
Just wait until Thursday night – you have no idea the lack of sportsmanship we are capable of showing. You guys will be talking about Thursday night for a long, long time.
I hope nothing untoward happens, but I also hope that anytime we have an AD/administration with a poor sense of history that begins talking about renewing the “rivalry”, your email gets mentioned and puts a stop to such foolishness…
Oh, and btw, after you’d weighed in, Tim doesn’t even move the needle on idiot quotient.
by The Bobs on Nov 22, 2011 2:08 PM CST reply actions
I was in the Longhorn Band in 2001 and we were in their stadium about an hour before kickoff—I got to see first hand the idiocy of these morons.
Apparently it’s tradition for the corp to walk around the track in various groups and do some type of little parade before they go into the stands. Our football players needed to get on the field for warm-ups and naturally, they had to go across the track. Some of our defensive lineman were coming out when the sword guys were right in front of us. The football players crossed the track and apparently, one of the corps guys did not appreciate being walked in front of. He actually started to draw his sword. The lineman just stopped and stared at him — luckily the other corps people stopped him from doing anything else.
The thing I remember thinking was that their actions are actually instinctual. Irrational, cult-like behavior.
by RIVALWEAR on Nov 22, 2011 2:16 PM CST reply actions
Ag_in-Tx said: "Just wait until Thursday night – you have no idea the lack of sportsmanship we are capable of showing. "
Unfortunately Ag_in, we do. The sad fact is you think your classless and boorish behavior is something to be proud of. It’s not, and it’s probably the biggest reason we won’t miss you when you’re gone. Enjoy the tender mercies of the SEC.
by stevo67 on Nov 22, 2011 2:40 PM CST reply actions
Taylor T Room said: “Y’all are missing A-I-T’s irony.”
I was thinking that just after I posted… If he is, it’s just brilliant snark. Is he Aggie Rick going undercover?
by stevo67 on Nov 22, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions
Hush up TTR – I’m having a ball. And not the kind YOU’RE thinking of.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 2:57 PM CST reply actions
I am soooooooooo glad that we’re finally “taking out the trash” .
Good riddance illiterate agtards – you sure won’t be missed by anyone in the conference or most of the high school coaches here in Texas.
It’s a good day, I’ll remember this moment forever.
by Spaceghost on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 PM CST reply actions
Great write-up. One more tiny example:
It was a Sat, Dec 1, 1979. I had never been to College Station & with an invite from an Aggie friend, I thought I would make the trip. Beautiful day, great friends, both Aggies and ‘horns. Great time at the Friday night bonfire. Loud stadium. College football at it’s best.
Horns win, they’re in the Sugar Bowl for the first time ever. Aggies had a losing record, so this WAS their bowl game. Aggies win, 13-7.
But something happened during that game that I have never forgotten. During the 3rd quarter, a Freshman Corps member ran out of the tunnel during a Longhorn drive, fires the Longhorn cannon, and runs a lap around the stadium to the cheers of the Aggie faithful.
Had something like this have happened in Austin, a hoard of policemen would have had the guy handcuffed and out of the stadium in a matter of seconds.
But not a Kyle Field. The fans went nuts, no penalty flag, no stoppage of play, no removal of the Corps member, no arrest. In fact, I learned years later that this guy was relieved from all Freshman Corps duties & hazing for 2 weeks for his efforts. Great job!
by BBob on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 PM CST reply actions
Rick Perry says there are 3 reasons that the ags are going to skip out to the SEC, and here they are.
- Texas A&M needs to be uhm! you know its like the other guy said.
- Texas A&M is going to be much more able to uhm! hang on let me think, I forgot for a moment I will come back to it.
- Texas A&M has every right to look after our own best interest, wait what was I saying.
by Littlebigman on Nov 22, 2011 3:14 PM CST reply actions
Spaceghost – bad news. We looked at the cost of picking up all the buildings and moving them east and it was just way too much.
We’re staying in Texas – we’ll be recruiting Texas players and winning championships with Texas athletes playing most of our games in Texas. In fact, we will play more games in Texas next year than Texas will.
by Ag_in_TX on Nov 22, 2011 3:16 PM CST reply actions
Throwing horse poop! On the evil UT marching band of course that was justified; the band was playing in a sound level only an Aggie or a horse could understand. His only response could have been to chunk poo on them because the horses told him to do it!
by Littlebigman on Nov 22, 2011 3:20 PM CST reply actions
My favorite time was when the Ags let us (APO) run the Texas flag on the field at College Station, back in the mid-70s. We did the usual run with the entire flag, while a few were tucked under with a sheet that said “Beat the hell out of A&M” (I’m getting older, I think that is what it said). As we went across the field, the smaller group went the other way and slid out from under the flag. Needless to say, the CTs were on them thicker than flies on…. whatever. It was still fun. Almost as much fun as the time the CTs came after us for throwing a frisbee around the puppy cemetery. I’ll miss the Ags; it’s like your idiot brother being sent to another home far away.
by SaltWaterCroc on Nov 22, 2011 3:29 PM CST reply actions
Doesn’t exactly fit the theory since A&M won this game. But in 1992 – Texas A&M @ Austin – The 100th meeting of the teams featuring both the aggie and Longhorn bands playing side by side at half with a fireworks show. An aggie corpsman tackles the Texas cheerleader carrying the longhorn flag and snaps the pole over his knee. In response, the Longhorn band overruns the corps. We yelled obscenities from surprisingly good seats on the student side. A&M ends Texas’ final threat with a 95 yd interception TD. Upon winning the game, aggie players kick and spat on the longhorn logo at mid-field and gesture to the alumni crowd on the west side.
Good riddance. Win or lose on Thursday, SEC is the big loser in the end.
by DCBC on Nov 22, 2011 3:29 PM CST reply actions
I seem to remember another story that I don’t believe has been mentioned.
Sometime in the 80s, Rice was again hosting A&M. At halftime, the aggie band was marching out on the field. The MOB had positioned members around Rice stadium with whistles and screwed up all their formations. People were running into each other and the halftime disaster had aggies furious. In retaliation, ags went onto Rice’s campus and cut down Meditation Oak, a tree that was hundreds of years old that students would study under.
One story would be a fluke, but when there have been so many repeated offenses over a hundred years, wouldn’t ags ever look at themselves and say, “Maybe we’re the problem?”
Good riddance!!!
by Tdan on Nov 22, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions
Excellent history. Only you left out the pregame brawl UT at a&m in 2007 and the post-game brawl UT at a&m in 2009. Also, the ags cutting the Horns at Memorial Stadium a couple of nights before a game in the 2000’s. Two years later, a day before the game the ag band gathered at mid-field and spray-painted lines across the midfield Horns. This action was caught on video, which had been installed since the last act of vandalism by the ags.
There was also a pre-game brawl at a&m one year in the late 70’s or 80’s. The ag football players advanced across the field beyond the hash mark and ‘sung’ to the Longhorn players. It was a ‘tradition’ at the time. I remember driving back to Austin after a SA family Thanksgiving dinner and could only hear it on the radio. I remember the announcers trying to describe the action as the players on both teams chased and caught each other to deliver blows. The TV coverage ceased moments after the action started.
IIRC, that ag tradition of ‘singing’ to their opponents ended with that game.
by charlie on Nov 22, 2011 3:46 PM CST reply actions
“In fact, we will play more games in Texas next year than Texas will.”
I count 8 games in Texas for UT next year- Baylor, TCU, UNM, Wyoming, OU, ISU, TT and Missouri (unless they leave, but if they do, they’ll be replaced by somebody and almost certainly in Austin).
Is Arkansas an “away” game next year? You may play all your non-con games at home, but that’s not going to be an every year deal, is it?
by TaylorTRoom on Nov 22, 2011 4:03 PM CST reply actions
No one ever believes me when I tell this, but also in 2005, I was sitting near the top of the zone with an Aggie friend behind 4 Texas students(3 girls and 1 guy). We were the only Longhorn fans in the general area, so we were pretty subdued.
As the game wore on, it was obvious that our coaches were playing our cards close to the vest, but we were still going to win again. With a couple of minutes left in the game, a ~50 year old Aggie fan abruptly turned around and started choking the shit out of the male Texas student, completely unprovoked. Everyone around us was completely shocked, and I grabbed the guy and tried to get his hands off the kid’s neck. He had a death grip. As we struggled, women started screaming, and a couple of male Aggie fans ran up and helped me get the freak to let go. Once we got him loose, the dude took off running down the steps and left his wife and college-aged daughters sitting there. He never said a word during the whole episode. It was surreal.
by Tex Pete on Nov 22, 2011 4:09 PM CST reply actions
I haven’t read everyone’s comments, so I apologize if I’m repeating this story.
I have an addendum to the ’95 game. As everyone was rushing out to The Drag or Littlefield Fountain to celebrate, I stayed to watch the local TV broadcast of the happenings after the game had ended. I saw a female UT cheerleader jumping up & down in celebration. A male Aggie Cadet tackled the female cheerleader. Two male UT cheerleaders came to her aid, pushing the Aggie Cadet away.
I swear to the veracity of this story.
by Joetx on Nov 22, 2011 4:26 PM CST reply actions
BBob, I am pretty sure Texas played that game with an all-freshman backfield, due to injuries. Ended up in the Sun Bowl.
DCBC, they behaved like jackasses at that 1992 game. Not a fond memory.
by JUICE on Nov 22, 2011 4:30 PM CST reply actions
Fuck those assholes and good riddance! They will be in the SEC alright, there’s no denying that. But, what on God’s green earth is a goofy little retard aggot like AIT thinking talking about winning championships when they have all of 1 in the Big XII era and that was 13 long years ago. I still have not conceded a damn thing as far as winning or losing this game goes. I know we are not that great this year (duh), but the aggots look like they actually suck worse than we do.
by Felonious Monk on Nov 22, 2011 4:48 PM CST reply actions
Don’t forget the story where the corps marched on Waco and torched the town. Or the invasion of Houston when we raped and pillaged the Cougars.
Your stories are quite enthralling. Any excuse not to show up and watch the beat down. Any excuse to duck us in the future. Please keep them coming. Bring on the Owls and Horney Toads ! Captivating games made for longhorn TV
by Aggie Lurking on Nov 22, 2011 6:01 PM CST reply actions
I was at the 95 game with my two younger brothers, both of whom were Ags. When the corp started attacking the Texas fans on the field, the older of the two turned to me to start explaining about the sanctity of the field and how no one was allowed on it. There was a fervant light in his eyes as he was talking and I realized that if I had been down on that field, he would have attacked me without pause.
After the game, we went to their intramural soccer game and all of their teammates were lauding the actions of the corp as “good bull”.
I second the notion of wishing the SEC good luck in dealing with this fanbase.
by Lobo89 on Nov 22, 2011 7:39 PM CST reply actions
“Aggie Lurking said: November 22nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
You guys need to slow down a bit so now I need to add we are vikings or hooligans to the list of reasons Dodds won’t schedule A&M ?"
Actually, we won’t schedule you because you are cowards, liars and whiners. You BELONG in the SEC!
You and that bow tied nerd made the decision to tuck tail and run. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
by Snide Aside on Nov 22, 2011 7:40 PM CST reply actions
One of my proudest moments was Thanksgiving 2000 (or 2001) leaving Bob Popular on 6th Street on Thanksgiving night and provoking some Aggies, which led to an all-out street brawl. Only aggies would allow normal shit-talking to devolve to a full drunken melee.
by rawaustin on Nov 22, 2011 8:37 PM CST reply actions
Here’s the Aggie War Hymn version accompanied by Corps Facebook photos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0IdWTJYrHQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
by 40 Acres and a Mule on Nov 22, 2011 9:35 PM CST reply actions
I’m typically polite here because I’m chums with management, so I’ll take a swing.
There is a lot of whining, isolated shit here. Enjoy trips to Morgantown.
I’ve traveled this game all over the country and have seen far, far worse than A&M.
Stop being pussies. See you again when DeLoss retires. We’ll beat the fuck out of you on Thursday.
Funny, every other fan base has no trouble with us. Oh, and the corps is 3% of the school. Keep writing 3000 word tomes about us. We’re not a real rival.
by ColoradoAg on Nov 22, 2011 10:53 PM CST reply actions
After the 1979 Cadet firing of Old Smokey, they try again at Memorial Stadium in 2000 during the 4th quarter. Only this time the Texas Cowboys are waiting for them. A melee ensues at the top of the horseshoe and the game is stopped while the fight goes on. The Texas Rangers and Austin Police watch for a while before breaking up the fight. The brave Aggie yell leaders think about running to the action from the other side of the field, grabbing their sabers to offer support. The Texas Cheerleaders stopped them (by reason, not force). Aggie won that game but the Cowboys won the battle. Aggies love their own traditions but have no respect for those of anyone else.
by "00" on Nov 22, 2011 11:04 PM CST reply actions
Many, if not most, of the fan bases in the conferences to which A$M has previously been a member of …in fact ( *as attested to by the very incidents documented above) DO have a “problem” with aggy, ColoradoAg.
Typical Collie Station self-delusion. Still just so glad you guys will be moving on, however.
No matter the game’s outcome, Friday cannot come soon enough as it will be the First Day of the Rest of Our Life Without Aggy.
by Spaceghost on Nov 22, 2011 11:23 PM CST reply actions
“Funny, every other fan base has no trouble with us.”
You might want to rethink that one, CoAg.
by Jake Lonergan on Nov 22, 2011 11:33 PM CST reply actions
Hmmmm… ATMC!
I travel over most of the US for football games in a different aspect you might thing… You really should reconsider that comment… if Texas wins, where would you like that goal post? It will be a little closer than you think…
by HotRod on Nov 23, 2011 12:07 AM CST reply actions
nice work, I seem to tell the Baylor story on request at least once every Thanksgiving.
I haven’t missed a UT Aggie game in 10 years. I stated early on I’d be missing this one for the very reasons you describe. This is their last shot at taking a pop at UT fans on their turf. Don’t think for a second it isn’t going to happen. It’s just a question of scale.
by Saltshaker on Nov 23, 2011 1:26 AM CST reply actions
Colorado Ag’s comments are hilarious. No other fan base has a problem with Aggy? Seriously?
Texas Tech has no problem with you?
Baylor?
I hope you are another Horn acting like an Aggy.
I will never get over the 1999 game where Texas treated these guys with respect only for Aggy to show us their true colors.
by My name is nobody on Nov 23, 2011 4:27 AM CST reply actions
Who is this Texas A&M being referred to here? They do not deserve to have the name of the great state of Texas referred to in the title of their school. They are the University of Louisiana – College Station…ULCS for short. They can retain their team name of Aggies if they wish, but as for me I now consider them to be the “Crawfish” to put the most correct terms on their team. They are a bunch of bottom-feeders. Let them go eat scum from the $-E-C pond for a while and see how they like it.
by Gman on Nov 23, 2011 8:18 AM CST reply actions
Time for the aggies to enter the witness protection program (SEC). They will have to forge a new rivalry with Vandy. We’re done with them for good.
by Horn Fan on Nov 23, 2011 8:50 AM CST reply actions
On the Tech incident, I don’t see Tech as being at fault. The visiting team has no right to dictate how you choose to celebrate a victory on your own field. If they want to hang out and do their little yells like a bunch of wacko cultist, then they have to deal with whatever the victor throws at them. Even if what they throw turns out to be a goalpost. I have been to games in Lubbock and the exits are clearly marked. Once the goal post started heading their direction, they should have taken their dumb aggie asses out of the stadium. This is not Braveheart, they had no justification to stay and “defend” their turf. Aggies are fowl and loathsome and now they are the SEC’s problem. Just try telling LSU how to celebrate their victory on their field Ags, and you will wish you were in Lubbock.
by sb on Nov 23, 2011 8:58 AM CST reply actions
Aggies are fowl
This is, quite simply, not true. agy are not any form of fowl, although it is fairly well known that many of them are involved in sexual relationships with chickens. That fact may be the origin of your error – it is understandable that your memory would change “chicken-fucker” to “chicken”.
by Tex Long on Nov 23, 2011 9:37 AM CST reply actions
My first exposure to Aggies was my father taking me to a Rice vs. Texas A&M game in Houston in the 1960’s. Rice surprisingly beats A&M and then on our way to our car after the game a group of Rice fans are chanting “Poor Aggies”. The Corp members assimilate out of no where and charge the Rice fans inciting a mini-riot with fists flying. Very impressionable on a young child as my Father and I retreated quickly to our car. I’ve been unimpressed by their cult since that day. Of course, when I looked at choosing universities TAM was not even considered. Hook ’Em Horns and Beat the Hell out of TAM — one last time!
by WeRtheJones' on Nov 23, 2011 10:00 AM CST reply actions
…Rice fans are chanting "Poor Aggies"…
One of my favoriter memories of a Rice-agy game involved the agy chanting “What comes out of Chinaman’s ass? Rice! Rice! Rice!” and the Rice fans replying “What comes out of EVERYONE’s ass? Little! Brown! Aggies!”
by Tex Long on Nov 23, 2011 10:31 AM CST reply actions
Does anyone remember the mini-brawl in, I think, ‘89? I wasn’t there, watched it on TV, but it was just prior to kickoff, when I think the team captains met for coin flip. Don’t know exactly what happened, but A&M giant lineman, about 6’9", 300#, (McCall?) ended up on his ass on the ground, thanks to Shane Dronett. Cameras cut away quickly so I don’t know how it ended.
Anyone remember?
by J.R.69 on Nov 23, 2011 11:33 AM CST reply actions
Wow. Didn’t realized A&M was quite so brutish. They do have a history of producing some Class-A holes that do the university a great disservice. A&M is a great institution that is more than a little besmirched by misled individuals and a very awful case of UT-CODEPENDENCE! The case is institutional and should be cured by extended separation from all things UT, including the Big12 conference. They should redo their fight song and expunge all references to UT and take inventory of all the so-called traditions and remove anything that is UT-like. They should absolutely refrain from seeking non-conference games with the Big12 and more particularly with UT. It should take about 30 years at least to shake this very unhealthy internecine CODEPENDENCE affliction. A&M, if they follow this healing regimine, will most assuredly be one of the finest and most respected universities in the United States and the world. I wish them well, but let’s get the separation done right. I’m proud of any descendants that go there and stay out the the Aggie-Bad-Apple crowd. Gig ’em!
by NotPropagandized on Nov 23, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions
I never considered them rivals, much less peers – more like an idiot red-headed stepchild with a disturbing fondness for military drag. The only downside I see to their wandering off into the sunrise is that it may turn Thanksgiving over to the NFL entirely and if there are two genuinely boring NFL games all year long, they play them both on Thanksgiving Day – Detroit vs. some other Rust Belt loser and the ’Boys. Bleah.
Good-Bye to ATM and don’t let the door bang you in the butt as you leave.
by jg6544 on Nov 23, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions
@NotP – nobody would expect you to realize anything. You’re an Ag, aren’t you?
by jg6544 on Nov 23, 2011 12:26 PM CST reply actions
A lot of fake Aggies showing up to jerk your chains.
I am known and respected here and I am telling you most are fake.
Come enjoy Kyle Field the “Stadium of Champions”. We have a special halftime surprise boys and girls. Enjoy beautiful College Station and most of all watch some SEC football.
Bring your 3 star QBS and we’ll send them home crying like we did Cult McCry, Matter of fact, I think his snot nosed brother is one of your “world beaters”.
Gigem
by Aggie Jack on Nov 23, 2011 1:09 PM CST reply actions
Goodbye to the assholes of A$M!
Free at last, free at last! Thank you, Lord, for getting rid of the aggy.
THAT is what I am thankful for this Thanksgiving!
F the collie-f’ers!
by Spaceghost on Nov 23, 2011 1:11 PM CST reply actions
Thank you Jack for being so perfectly and completely Aggie-esque in your comments. What a quick witted little play on on Colt McCoy’s name. You are a clever little feller. There is no doubt , Jack, you are a true Aggie.
by sb on Nov 23, 2011 1:14 PM CST reply actions
sb
Thank you. I have had a lot of respect from the good fans on here and I am glad to have you a member of my fan club.
by Aggie Jack on Nov 23, 2011 1:24 PM CST reply actions
You left out so many good stories.
Before a game against TTU RC Slocum covered himself in Gatorade, and then told the team that Tech fans did it. After the game he confessed to making up the story.
Also Aggie fans stole Tech’s horse one year, painted it, and let it starve to death. A really classy fan base. They will be missed.
They were the last school to allow women or minorities (of course they created a school for minorities because they weren’t “smart enough” to attend A&M). Very Progressive
by Marshall on Nov 23, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions
Aggie Jack…nobody likes you! Get it!
It is this kind of stupidity that will cause you clowns to choke.
by MikeyD on Nov 23, 2011 2:51 PM CST reply actions
Silly ags! Can’t wait to see them gone! I was about to talk about the time the aggies stole TTU’s horse and painted it which cause it’s death. And now they are crying about fish bait. Stupid aggies.
by Rene on Nov 23, 2011 2:57 PM CST reply actions
And will someone explain to those dimwits in farmville that the reason SEC and ACC schools have their instate OOC rivalries each year is because in the ACC and the SEC they only play 8 conference games, so with their 4 OOC games, they can schedule the instate rivalry games and still have their 3 OOC games each year. The Big 12 plays 9 conference and that leaves us with only 3 OOC games.
You may need to start by explaining that teams generally play 12 games each year, that 12 minus 9 equals 3, that 12 minus 8 equals 4 and that 4 is a number one larger than 3. I haven’t been able to find an aggie that understands this level of higher mathematics, so explaining to them the basics of why they aren’t on our schedule after this year has been difficult.
by Big Al on Nov 23, 2011 3:08 PM CST reply actions
@Rene -
The horse actually died of a ruptured intestine, not because anything the agroids did to it.
by Big Al on Nov 23, 2011 3:11 PM CST reply actions
Colorado Ag and Ag_ in_TX,
You have the better team this year no doubt, sad you guys even with a win tomorrow will have the same record Texas does.
I would tap the brakes a bit on your future championships in your new conference, as the famous line goes in Jaws, “We’re going to need a bigger boat” i.e., your going to need a much better team with much better athletes to win in the SEC.
Enjoy!
by VA Horn on Nov 23, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions
The finest literature of all time pertaining to A&M is “1,001 Stupid Aggie Jokes.” What a legacy you Aggies leave. It will probably take me 24 hours to forget you.
This is a divorce I will always cherish. The average IQ in the Big 12 will probably rise 20 points.
And now you prove your stupidity has no bounds by asking us to continue to play you. You Aggies are always good for a laugh.
by jerryw on Nov 23, 2011 5:10 PM CST reply actions
1. You still don’t get it. The punishment will be the scoreboard we will hold on you and point out anytime we want. You will compound that by appearing afraid to play since you will have lost 4 of the last 6 as well as the last 2 games. Meantime we will smugly say anytime motherfuckers you are the holdup not us. Game set match.
There are a couple of old sayings that might fit this breakup.
1 “Absence Makes The Heart Grow Fonder”
or
2. “Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind”
Can you guess which one fits our scenario?
I knew you could.
by srr50 on Nov 23, 2011 7:53 PM CST reply actions
What a bunch of whiny-a$$ t-sips. U r just askin’ 4 a woopin’ come tomorow.
Can’t wait til you see our suprise 4 u at halftime.
Whoop!
by Red_Ass_12 on Nov 23, 2011 9:12 PM CST reply actions
If only aggy was leaving the state as well as the Big 12. Everyone would be so much better off if we didn’t have to put up with those idiots and their obnoxious “whooping” Like this idiot Red_Ass_12 <—-gay name.
by Tacokisses on Nov 23, 2011 9:59 PM CST reply actions
A good half-time surprise would be your fake military band learning another song.
by Toadvine on Nov 24, 2011 4:03 AM CST reply actions
I can’t believe anyone would rather play TCU than Aggies on Thanksgiving. Who cares about TCU.
by Longhorn NY on Nov 24, 2011 5:44 AM CST reply actions
Maybe we should schedule Westlake so we can (usually) be sure of a win.
by Longhorn NY on Nov 24, 2011 5:48 AM CST reply actions
Why the hell do we have to play on a Thanksgiving anyway? Why is that a requirement for us?
I would like to enjoy my damn turkey just once without having to think about Texas fucking A&M or anyone one else that day.
I just never understood this and I am sure every other Texas Longhorn in the world would disagree.
by My name is nobody on Nov 24, 2011 7:17 AM CST reply actions
Longhorn NY -
The choice between playing TCU and playing A&M is a false one. We have to play TCU because they’re in our conference. The real choice is between playing A&M and playing a team like USC or Notre Dame with a national reputation.
by maroon carrots on Nov 24, 2011 12:19 PM CST reply actions
Besides, TCU is better than A&M and has been for the last 10-15 years.
by maroon carrots on Nov 24, 2011 1:10 PM CST reply actions
I doubt that happens. I think we get bailer, tcu, or tech.
Hopefullyyouare right. Anyway, I will enjoy the game tonight.
I think both schools are making a huge mistake, but time will tell.
by Longhorn NY on Nov 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions
Lots of trolls on here, most of whom I’m betting never attended and even fewer graduated from either school, but that’s the nature of internet blogs and posting boards.
I’d invite anyone to attend a game in College Station or Austin with an alumnus of either school, and make your decisions based on those experiences rather than a bunch of internet BS. There are bad apples in any crowd, but any professional or true fan of the game (not the slack-jawing) will rank both programs in the top 15 of any in the nation based on week-to-week game-day experience.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/7271790/texas-texas-share-blame-demise-state-best-rivalry
“Has a program ever thought the world revolved around it more than Texas? We all know the answer.
All I can do is shake my head.
Maybe they’re scared A&M is passing them in football. After all, the Aggies have won three of five and 13 of the last 25 games against the Longhorns, and they should win Thursday.
Then again, UT wants you to believe Oklahoma is its true rival and playing the Aggies isn’t any different than playing Baylor or Texas Tech.
Whatever."
Thanks for a bit of education on this tidbit:
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/052800/loc_052800065.shtml
“Wall also blamed Happy V’s tendency to colic on a 1975 incident in which orange paint was poured on the horse’s hindquarters before a football game against the University of Texas.”
Amazing that Tech fans blame A&M for this when it was actually for the Texas game.
God bless all the true sports fans in our state, a happy and safe Thanksgiving to all, and Gig’em!
by RobOrd00 on Nov 24, 2011 6:53 PM CST reply actions
We’ll beat the fuck out of you on Thursday.
lol boo hoo
by bigdukesix on Nov 25, 2011 10:11 AM CST reply actions
I think the halftime surprise was the TAMU team comng out lobotomized for the 3rd Quarter? Anyway, yeah, thanks.
by Toadvine on Nov 25, 2011 10:15 AM CST reply actions
Maybe they’re scared A&M is passing them in football. After all, the Aggies have won three of five and 13 of the last 25 games against the Longhorns,
The mathematical massage is even fucking funnier a day later. Yes, 13 of 26 portends a passing-uppage. Too bad that 3 of 5, now 3 of 6, is actually 3 out of millenium.
by Arriviste on Nov 25, 2011 10:34 AM CST reply actions
“Red_Ass_12 said:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
What a bunch of whiny-a$$ t-sips. U r just askin’ 4 a woopin’ come tomorow.
Can’t wait til you see our suprise 4 u at halftime.
Whoop!”
How’s that whippin’ feel on your red, beaten ass today, cum guzzler?
F’n piece of shit – couldn’t your boyfriend get it up to do you last night after your national TV humiliation?
Get outta here freaks!
by Spaceghost on Nov 25, 2011 11:10 AM CST reply actions
I’m hearing lots of crickets.
What happened to Colorado_Ag? Usually one of the more rational from his rabid, foaming at the mouth fan base?
Ag Lurking – why did you quit lurking? How do those tears running down into your vagina feel?
Red_Ass_12 – Is your ass still red from getting pounded by the Cadets? How does it feel to take it up the ass for a losing cause?
Aggie Jack – how did it feel to lose halftime in front of the nation’s eyes? Still think you have the number of McCoy brothers? Don’t worry you’ll lose halftime every year in the $EC far from the comforts of your sacred field.
Ag_in_TX – I feel dumber for dignifying your existence. You compare yourself to the Mujahideen? For shame, comparing your fanbase to a group allied with Osama bin Laden. Many innocent citizens and REAL American soldiers died thanks to bin Laden. Congratulations for putting yourself in that company.
by Aggie Rick is Annoying on Nov 25, 2011 2:12 PM CST reply actions
You’d think that after being losers for the entire life of their school, the Ags would be used to it by now.
by jg6544 on Nov 25, 2011 2:38 PM CST reply actions
Goodbye to A&M. Do you aggies still want to place us every year?
Here’s our answer (UT = Big Cigar, A&M = penniless beggar):
by maroon carrots on Nov 25, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions
Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.
So, aggie lurking, aggie jack, colorado ag, etc etc, how’d that game Thursday work out for you? Oh, you don’t say? 27-25, was it? Wow, what an unfortunate turn of events for you. Man, it would really chap me to no end to know my biggest rival, the ones we spend our very existence obsessing over, comparing ourselves to and endlessly trying to match up to, had forever scoreboard over us. Most distressing. Not to mention that ugly, 76-37-5 all-time record. Well, at least you can rest easy knowing your program is on solid footing with a great head coach leading the way and…what? What’s that you say? Oh. Your coach is 25-25, and you went 6-6 this season after being picked in the preseason Top 10? And you won exactly one Big 12 title in 16 years, and that was 13 years ago? Ohhhh….well, um, yeah, good luck with all that.
You bunch of sheepfucking idiots. Have fun finishing 3-9 every year for the foreseeable future and being the bitch of every team in your new league, with the possible exception of Vandy and Kentucky. You had all these grand visions and big plans for taking your ball and moving to a new neighborhood, and embarrassing us and thumbing your noses at us on the way out, but you forgot one critical detail.
You’re aggies.
Suck it you mouth-breathing, warped-reality, dog-worshipping morons.
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