Quick Update From The Asset
I know I owe you a Humidor and I promise I'll post what I can by the end of the week. At this point, however, I think it's best for everyone involved if we table the meat of that article for now. I promise I won't leave you high and dry.
With that out of the way, I wanted to give you a quick update from The Asset now, and I'll give you the full report tomorrow. So here goes.
At QB it's still the same in terms of pecking order, with Case having a solid day in practice today. We're tailoring the offense to suit his strengths and it's showing. As for David Ash, he's getting his own special package of plays and it's a bit different than what he's run in past games. Let's just say he might get some "throwback" run this weekend if today's practice was any indication. We're going to run the ball on the Baptists come hell or high water and Ash's special package looks to be key here.
For the "redacted!" doubters out there, here's what we posted the day before the TAMU game.
For example, we had a double pass in the game plan for Mizzou which was built on our WR screen game. We never got our base offense going so we could never set that up. Plus, we only had half the game to find the right situation even if we had something going because of the wind.
In the week leading up to KSU, we had worked on a reverse off our jet action and even tinkered with allowing Onyegbule to throw out of that, but we never got our running game going to set it up, and we weren’t able to extend drives to give us favorable field position or opportunities.
Nails, imo. Just need Miles to lead Mike D. a bit more. I'd characterize Ash's new package as a sort of gadget or at least a wrinkle. We've got a redacted in with Case in the game as well.
On defense, we're doing some different stuff with our defensive ends to give RGIII more things to think about. Rest assured, we plan on hitting Mr. Griffin early and often if it means giving up some things with Ganaway.
That's all I'll say for now. Look for a more extensive report tomorrow night.
Hook 'Em!
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Thanks! Your existence was being questioned by the masses!
by Ricky on Nov 29, 2011 9:58 PM CST reply actions
What did Mason Walters scream at McCoy in the middle of the field when he blew the audible call?
by MaRK on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions
Awesome news, thank you! I’m reeeal interested to see how we roll with the two packages this weekend. Very, very interesting couple of months for us going forward!
by Balltastic Motivization on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions
Where is trips right?! No lhn in chicago for my cable provider, need to know how our bball team looks?! Thanks haysuess!!!! Love everything you guys do
by Randy Marsh on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 PM CST reply actions
Muchos gracias. Orange soda and a grilled cheese on me.
P.S.
Love it when you kick dirt in the haters’ faces too!
by hg03 on Nov 29, 2011 10:04 PM CST reply actions
LOL. I love that now instead of calling him Colt, you go to the other brother and call him Chase… sorry… had to. Good stuff!
by TXDavehorn on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 PM CST reply actions
I am VERY interested in the Humidor. Dan Mullen, Chris Petersen, and Gary Patterson rumors abound, not to mention Manny Diaz rumors.
by AndrewfromUTLaw on Nov 29, 2011 10:22 PM CST reply actions
Does this have something to do with the the jockey-sized head coach with the barrel-of-monkeys personality and $15 extra, extra LARGE?
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 29, 2011 10:24 PM CST reply actions
Jesus, what is the story with Mack that you were hinting about last week. You mentioned something about him possibly looking for an exit strategy.
by Kyle on Nov 29, 2011 10:29 PM CST reply actions
Thanks for the update. I’d just like to say that I appreciate that you only report news when there is something (publishable) to report. Unlike some other sites who feel compelled to post fluff daily because people are paying them for it. Anyway…
Customizing the offense for Case’s strengths sounds like a good idea. That Onyegbule play could have been huge! It needs better execution obviously. Shipley could be our QB#3 if we didn’t need him so badly as a WR.
Randy, BBall team is a work in progress. They are undersized and (mostly) inexperienced so they’re going to struggle with rebounding against good teams and make some mistakes along the way… However, there’s a lot of talent and quickness there, and J’Covan is a baller, so Barnes has some pieces of the puzzle to work with. I went to the game tonight and they did some good things, but got out-rebounded and made some sloppy plays. Kabongo hit some 3s and had a really good game, Barnes raved about his defense during the postgame. They are exciting to watch at times, but there is a lot of room for improvement. It’s really impressive how the 2011 and 2012 classes complement each other so well in terms of size and skills, so the future is bright.
by selimsivad on Nov 29, 2011 10:31 PM CST reply actions
Please try to address the Peterson/UCLA rumors v. Peterson to UT. I just can’t get excited for anyone else to replace Mack.
by Zzzizzzy on Nov 29, 2011 10:35 PM CST reply actions
Many thanks for the update. Haters gonna hate. Keep the secrets until its safe to tell us, too. I love you. No homo.
by godzillatron on Nov 29, 2011 10:37 PM CST reply actions
ahh..the fix. Thank you Jesus. Kind of feeling giddy about the Baylor game…kind of the same feeling… prior to last year’s Nebraska game with a possible upset pulled off by the HORNS. As for the D…I can sense a ballz out approach to closing out the regular season as you indicated…looking forward to the bowl game. Burnt orange til the casket drops. Thanks for the report
by longonhorns on Nov 29, 2011 10:38 PM CST reply actions
MaRK said:
November 29th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
“What did Mason Walters scream at McCoy in the middle of the field when he blew the audible call?”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Colt got stuck with a ‘Delay of Game’ – “DOG” Penalty!
by HotRod on Nov 29, 2011 10:42 PM CST reply actions
SHUTTLESWORTH LIVES!
Zzzizzzy, come on now, Petersen can only win on a blue field ! Oops, lost one there to TCU a couple of weeks back.
Speaking of throwback, That pass to Shipley was actually a designed play. they call it the quarterback sprint pass back or something like that. Mack talked about it in the presser.
Ash will be running the James Street pkg. Now thats throwback.
by 55f100tx on Nov 29, 2011 10:57 PM CST reply actions
Thanks Jesus!!
IF Peterson goes to UCLA, its not like he cant come to Texas after that. I actually would like him to take that job, succeed there so we get more of a proven commodity. Mack’s shot term exit strategy aside, but not longterm(+3years), we get to see how Peterson does at a big time program with a lot of potential and if he succeeds there, even decently, we know what are getting. UCLA isnt a permanent job, especially if Texas calls!! Because right now, Peterson to me is a bit of an unknown.
What you say?
by thecontractor on Nov 29, 2011 11:07 PM CST reply actions
Jesus Shuttlesworth, ladies and gentlemen…the ultimate cock tease. Love it! Keep ‘em comin’.
by Finkle is Einhorn on Nov 29, 2011 11:11 PM CST reply actions
Thanks Jesus, Always appreciates your posts. I think most of us here also trust your judgement as far as what and when to post.
by Calihorn on Nov 29, 2011 11:12 PM CST reply actions
Just for fun, here’s my take on the Mack rumors with some speculation on my own.
Peterson: If Mack were to step down at the end of the season, Peterson makes a logical choice. His offense has already, more or less, been installed (Harsin). However, I don’t see Mack leaving unless the majority of his staff stays as part of the deal. It would seem really un-Mack-like to bail on these guys, after gaining a 3 year commitment from them. Also, would Peterson, or anyone else, be down with not be able to choose their own staff top to bottom?
HCIW: Jesus also said that if Mack doesn’t leave this year, he may give a timeline for his departure, if so, he would almost assuredly have to designate his successor, if not this would leave the future of the program up in the air, recruting, etc. Something I don’t see Mack or Dodds doing. Mack said after Muschamp left, that if he ever did the HCIW thing again, he would do it with a timeline for his departure. This could most likely mean that it would be an in-house hire. (Diaz, Applewhite or Harsin). What’s interesting about this option, is that it doesn’t have to be announced until it (Mack retiring) actually happens. So, if there’s no announcement, but if Diaz, Harsin or Major start turning down offers from decent programs, you have to wonder.
Not sold that any of this is gonna happen, but it’s fun to speculate nonetheless.
by TXPride on Nov 29, 2011 11:24 PM CST reply actions
Speaking of rumors, Rock Chalk Jayhawk, baby!
by Mike_Leach on Nov 29, 2011 11:36 PM CST reply actions
whatever happens, i want Johnathan Gray signed, sealed and delivered before any coaching changes are made…
by mileslong on Nov 29, 2011 11:43 PM CST reply actions
If UCLA signs Chris PetersOn to a contract, Boise fans will have a good laugh about it.
by Saul on Nov 29, 2011 11:46 PM CST reply actions
“As for David Ash, he’s getting his own special package of plays and it’s a bit different than what he’s run in past games. Let’s just say he might get some "throwback" run this weekend if today’s practice was any indication. We’re going to run the ball on the Baptists come hell or high water and Ash’s special package looks to be key here.”
Great news! I also expect the horns to run the ball as much as possible and Ash can be a big help in that area (aided by Baylor’s poor run defense). Case is the better passer but Mack is going to try to run as much as possible and Case does not help the run game much. Having a QB who can contribute as a runner or blocker is very useful if you run the ball on 90% of the snaps. When the horns ran so well vs KU and Tech, Ash was the QB. The best way to prevent interceptions is to not pass. Ash makes it easier to accomplish that goal than Case does.
Ash also makes it easier to shift into the wild formation since he can contribute at WR as a big, powerful blocker.
Case will replace Ash in obvious passing situations.
The “throwback” with Ash might be the triple option. It could be the normal zone read that the horns have run this season preceded by either a handoff or fake to Cody (at fb) into the line.
Another good way to get RG3 out of his rhythm (besides hitting him early and often) is to force him to sit on the bench for extended periods while the Texas offense is grinding out 1st downs.
by Kafka on Nov 29, 2011 11:56 PM CST reply actions
Curious to know what the projected health of Bergeron and Brown are for the Horns. The healthier those two are, the better I like our chances, QBs be damned.
Thanks for the quick fix, JS.
by AKHorn on Nov 30, 2011 12:12 AM CST reply actions
One Diaz rumor is Mullen of Miss State to Penn State and Diaz heads back to Miss State.
As for Peterson, UCLA historically pays low, the program does not have great tradition and the students/alumni are not fanatics. He won’t learn anything there that he can’t learn at Boise. Plus he gets hammered for state income tax.
by Larry Robinson on Nov 30, 2011 12:36 AM CST reply actions
If Mack stays here for a couple more years, and if Petersen is his replacement, it would be nice for Petersen to take the UCLA job and strengthen his recruiting ties in SoCal. There is a lot of low-hanging fruit in those recruiting fields.
Unfortunately, I doubt that Petersen would take the UCLA job with the ultimate expectation that he would be moving to Texas in a few years. He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who would bring in a group of coaches knowing that he would leave them shortly.
If Petersen turns down UCLA, that would indicate the rumors about him waiting for the Texas job may well be true.
by BornOrange on Nov 30, 2011 1:06 AM CST reply actions
I still think this is the best year for Mack to pack it up. He goes out as a proven rebuilder with good-will from the fan base. He can take the credit for his successor’s successes and could come to the rescue to re-rebuild if his successor flounders. Best of all worlds. But, staying any longer he is certain not to meet the fans’ expectations. Ten-win seasons don’t cut it anymore for Mack, and we are going to be hard-pressed to do better than that any time in the near future with our dearth of QB talent.
by Zzzizzzy on Nov 30, 2011 1:59 AM CST reply actions
zzzizzzy, you realize that this season likely would have been a 10 win season had we done a little better job managing our running backs’ carries in blowout wins, right?
and it’s not like alabama and lsu got where they are based on great qb play.
by timmy teat on Nov 30, 2011 2:34 AM CST reply actions
Thanks to the four of you who spelled Chris Petersen’s name correctly.
by Boise Bronco on Nov 30, 2011 3:41 AM CST reply actions
Good stuff, as always JS. Mos Def looking forward to the Humidor post.
by D.C. Horn on Nov 30, 2011 7:50 AM CST reply actions
Let’s just say he might get some "throwback" run this weekend if today’s practice was any indication.
I hope this means the Wishbone. I’d love to see that.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Nov 30, 2011 8:29 AM CST reply actions
would have been a 10 win season had we done a little better job managing our running backs’ carries in blowout wins, right?
Wrong. JoeB’s hammy has bothered him since August, and having it flare up as it did is not a matter of a few carries too many. Brown’s injury was not a matter of that one extra carry – if anything, I think we need to look into his shoe selection, since he lost shoes several times that I recall, it’s probably time for a change in footgear, if it hasn’t happened already.
That said, I think we all agree that with a healthy B’n’B we win at Mizzou and at home vs KSU, particularly if Foz doesn’t go down. If you want to blame coaches for something, blame them for making Whaley not just an RB choice, but an ONLY RB recruit, followed by diito on Shead.
by Tex Long on Nov 30, 2011 8:34 AM CST reply actions
I hear KSmart to Miss State.
What we need to do is lock up Diaz with a huge raise, and have him be the next coach. He has something special to him and that defense is just rocking – even with all of these young guys. You have to get him locked up, asap.
Seeing Harsin’s O, I would rather have Diaz as head coach than Peterson.
by DharmaCombat on Nov 30, 2011 8:35 AM CST reply actions
I just don’t see Mack leaving this year. That would really surprise me (which I realize could be the point of the upcoming Humidor).
I could see him leaving next year. 10 wins (or better) is a real possibility next year.
But with our prospects for 2013, I could easily see him staying for that year, as well.
Be that as it may, I am willing to suffer football blueballs until all is revealed. Focus this week should be on Baylor and RGIII.
by lurkerinthedark on Nov 30, 2011 8:43 AM CST reply actions
The game plan for this weekend should be beat the ever-living hell out of RGIII. And, I mean that in a legal, not dirty, sense. He’s got to be bruised up. I’d send the house right off the bat and give him something to think about. Let the Bear receivers catch a few short passes and then hit them as well. If I’m not mistaken, Baylor’s main receiver is also a tad gimpy. Give up some yards in return for the mental edge.
by Ty on Nov 30, 2011 8:43 AM CST reply actions
Our defense looks good in 5 games and you are ready to make the DC the head coach? That is the kind of logic that gets Mike Sherman a contract extension and raise after last season.
by Horncasting on Nov 30, 2011 8:44 AM CST reply actions
Yes. It seems insane I know, but he has “it”.
by DharmaCombat on Nov 30, 2011 8:48 AM CST reply actions
Diaz is going to be on a lot of short lists. If Mullen goes to PSU, he will undoubtedly be one of the first calls Miss State will make. His name has come up for KU and Ole Miss.
No raise will keep him if he wants the challenge of a HC gig – even the crummiest of those jobs will pay him more than we will pay a DC. Only reason he stays is if he thinks he helps his future prospects more by staying for another year or two.
I hate to say it, but with the number of jobs that are open, I just don’t see us holding on to him. One or two more years at Texas wont significantly improve the level of school he can jump to – the only reason for him to stay is if he wants Mack’s job and thinks staying gives him the best shot at it. And does he really hurt his chances at landing a Texas level job by going to Ole Miss or KU for a few years? Taking over a shitty ISU team and doing a shitty job didn’t hurt Chizik’s ability to land the Auburn job.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM CST reply actions
Only reason he stays is if he thinks he helps his future prospects more by staying for another year or two.
There might be another reason he stays. The fact that he gave his word to Mack for a 3 year committment (assuming the reports of this were correct). Obviously Mack would have some wiggle room in that if someone like Bama or Florida came calling, but I don’t Mississippi State or Kansas would fall in the realm of an exception for Mack and I have to believe Mack and Diaz have a clear understanding of what would be a reasonable exception.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Nov 30, 2011 9:01 AM CST reply actions
JS,
You don’t owe us anything. I’d prefer you not release info until it is definitely safe for the team for it to be known.
Thanks for the updates, through. Appreciate it.
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Nov 30, 2011 9:12 AM CST reply actions
I think we can deal with the wait, and thanks for the update JS!
by TexanNick on Nov 30, 2011 9:25 AM CST reply actions
“One or two more years at Texas wont significantly improve the level of school he can jump to – the only reason for him to stay is if he wants Mack’s job and thinks staying gives him the best shot at it.”
Ask Muschamp if sticking around another year significantly improved the level of the school he jumped to, and he did it after our worst year in over a decade. Imagine if we actually go on a run the next two years that culminates with an NC in 2013. I think Diaz will have much better options that KU or Ole Miss. MSU might be tempting this year because Mullen did get some talent to Starkville. He might also look into UNC as well given his background and the talent that’s already in place there.
by bbliss on Nov 30, 2011 9:44 AM CST reply actions
I was a redacted doubter. Now, I’m a redacted believer. Nobody fucks with the Jesus….so I’m learning.
by Trav Jam on Nov 30, 2011 9:49 AM CST reply actions
bbliss,
it would be interesting to know if Foley makes the same decision again. there is a vocal portion of gator fans that want to ride Will out of town on a rail. and people were pretty universally shocked that UF took a chance on someone without any headcoaching experience, so i think Will’s experience was the anomaly rather than the rule.
Tennessee, UNC, UCLA, ASU, Illinois and Ole Miss are not bad jobs. None are great, but all have factors that make them at least semi-attractive for someone’s first HC job. I would argue that especially UNC, Tennessee and UCLA are second tier jobs that someone could go to and win fairly quickly at. I think it is tough to argue that it is a slam dunk that staying at Texas for another couple of years guarantees Manny would get a shot at first tier jobs. A lot of those places will want someone with HC experience.
nunna,
mack asked for 3 year commitments, unless someone gets a HC offer. he has said he would never stand in the way of someone getting a promotion… i am sure that still holds.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 10:00 AM CST reply actions
Why no Art Briles talk to Texas or any of the other jobs already open? I would love to have him as head coach. The guy can coach imo.
by 10HORNS on Nov 30, 2011 10:03 AM CST reply actions
Jesus Shuttlesworth, ladies and gentlemen…the ultimate cock tease.
Comment made even better coming from a poster whose handle is Finkle is Einhorn.
by jc25 on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions
There is not a head coach in the country that wouldn’t want to come to Texas – INCLUDING the NFL.
If we were looking for a HC, which I don’t think we are or will be, why would we set our sights low? Why a winning HC from a minor conference? Big deal!
Can anyone here think of a HC in the SEC that we would want, hmmm?
by Snide Aside on Nov 30, 2011 10:28 AM CST reply actions
Can anyone here think of a HC in the SEC that we would want, hmmm?
Darrell Royal, at Miss State? I know he’s only 32, but… oh, wait, wrong century.
by Tex Long on Nov 30, 2011 10:33 AM CST reply actions
We beat Bears if we line up every big guy we have on offense and run the ball 100 times. On defense: Ganaway, meet Steve Edmond.
by RS on Nov 30, 2011 10:52 AM CST reply actions
Art Briles? ART F’ING BRILES TO UT? Please say you’re kidding! You know who I think of every time Briles name comes up? Houston Nutt. No thanks.
by Gman on Nov 30, 2011 10:56 AM CST reply actions
Coaching change talk is premature and I wish it would stop. Not only is the season not over, but the changes the program is undergoing are headed in the right direction. But for those who insist on talking about Mack’s successor and are hot for Petersen, y’all need to read Scipio’s post on Butler and Boise, and think about Dan Hawkins:
by Texastough on Nov 30, 2011 11:04 AM CST reply actions
Damn, the reward for special teams scoring for Texas would be that the defense gets to trot back onto the field against RGIII.
by kemit on Nov 30, 2011 11:11 AM CST reply actions
For those who think Mack is going to demand his coaches stay for 3 years and turn down a HC gig unless it is of Florida quality, remember that Mack himself only stayed at OU for one year as an OC before jumping to the powerhouse that was Tulane for the head role.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions
Snide Aside said:
There is not a head coach in the country that wouldn’t want to come to Texas – INCLUDING the NFL.
If we were looking for a HC, which I don’t think we are or will be, why would we set our sights low? Why a winning HC from a minor conference? Big deal!
Can anyone here think of a HC in the SEC that we would want, hmmm?
He who shall not be named
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 11:41 AM CST reply actions
gman, If Briles can turn around Baylor and Houston, what do you think he could do for Texas?
by 10HORNS on Nov 30, 2011 11:45 AM CST reply actions
He who shall not be named
Will we have to embed a plot of actual grass on our sideline, for him to chew?
by Tex Long on Nov 30, 2011 11:45 AM CST reply actions
Texastough – This is the internet and an opinion blog. Is talking about a new coach pre-mature – hell yeah! Is talking about a new coach inapproriate – hell no!
Diversity of subject matter is what makes these blogs interesting. Lighten up – what we have to say won’t affect a damnned thing.
by Snide Aside on Nov 30, 2011 12:11 PM CST reply actions
10HORNS said:
November 30th, 2011 at 10:45 am
“gman, If Briles can turn around Baylor and Houston, what do you think he could do for Texas?”
Art Briles is still a High School Coach… and still coaches like that in college! His players are UN-disciplined and play like they are coached…. NO Thank you!
by HotRod on Nov 30, 2011 12:15 PM CST reply actions
“He who shall not be named”
Oh, I’ll name him – Nick Saban
I hate the SOB – but, you know what, so would stoopsie and every other head coach in the Big 12!
You think there is no chance he would leave bammy and come to UT? You think he wouldn’t come to a school imbedded in the middle of the greatest recruiting state in the union? A school that gets to pick and choose it’s recruits? A school that has been named the #1 most attractive HC job in the country?
You think he wouldn’t leave bammy? Ask LSU!
by Snide Aside on Nov 30, 2011 12:19 PM CST reply actions
Will we have to embed a plot of actual grass on our sideline, for him to chew?
Perhaps stockpile Little Debbie’s?
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 12:21 PM CST reply actions
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Snide Aside said:
November 30th, 2011 at 11:19 am
"He who shall not be named"
Oh, I’ll name him – Nick Saban
I hate the SOB – but, you know what, so would stoopsie and every other head coach in the Big 12!
I hated Deion Sanders…right up to the moment he became a Cowboy.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions
Briles has been an ass all the way back to his time at Georgetown HS – no way he’ll ever coach at UT (again)…
by UT Bondman on Nov 30, 2011 12:29 PM CST reply actions
You are dreaming if you think Saban leaves Bama. Also, Saban is the same age (or about as Mack). Unless Mack has health/family issues or wants to get out to do something else, he isn’t leaving until next year at the earliest.
Texas is one of the best jobs in the country, no doubt. But there are a handful of jobs that would be lateral moves, and Bama is one of them.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 12:30 PM CST reply actions
You think there is no chance he would leave bammy and come to UT? You think he wouldn’t come to a school imbedded in the middle of the greatest recruiting state in the union? A school that gets to pick and choose it’s recruits? A school that has been named the #1 most attractive HC job in the country?
You think he wouldn’t leave bammy? Ask LSU!
I’m not at all worried, If we want, we can get him.
I actually heard this rumor over Thanksgiving not off the internet but from my Bro-in-law who rubs elbows with a lot of connected and inside (various orgs) people. He happens to be a Bama fan too, so he’s a little anxious. He heard it from someone who’s opinion he thought mattered. It’s only a rumor, but its obvious that something is going on behind the scenes.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 12:32 PM CST reply actions
You are dreaming if you think Saban leaves Bama. Also, Saban is the same age (or about as Mack). Unless Mack has health/family issues or wants to get out to do something else, he isn’t leaving until next year at the earliest.
Texas is one of the best jobs in the country, no doubt. But there are a handful of jobs that would be lateral moves, and Bama is one of them.
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I’m not dreaming, just stoking the flames of a rumor that’s been sparking around the internet and elsewhere.
But if the rumors are correct, the pay most certainly will not be “lateral”.
LOOK, I have no idea, just having some fun with this idea. I actually like Mack. You know what I like most about Mack? He’s not Saban.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 12:37 PM CST reply actions
If Diaz gets an offer to HC at a university in a BCS conference where the program is not hopeless, he probably will take it. Who knows how the Texas defense will play next year? It doesn’t take much misfortune to screw up a team. When you get an opportunity, you have to seize the opportunity. All the talk about Mack moving on will make it that much easier for Diaz to accept a good promotion.
by Kafka on Nov 30, 2011 12:41 PM CST reply actions
I hear you on stoking the rumors – this has been out there for a few weeks and I think a few Houston sports radio shows were reporting it last week.
The pay would be lateral, because Bama would up his salary to keep him. We can outspend most schools, but there are a handful that have the wherewithal to match us.
I would be more than willing to bet that the next coach we hire is someone they expect to stick in the role for the long term, and Saban would be a quick rental — and again, I just don’t see any rationale for him taking it. It’s not a step up for him, salary wise and program wise, imo, it is a lateral move.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 12:45 PM CST reply actions
Saban moved up four teams to get to Alabama – think he wouldn;t move three to ge to Texas?
by Snide Aside on Nov 30, 2011 12:50 PM CST reply actions
I think Saban has that same personality trait…or whatever (character flaw?) that Parcells and Jimmy Johnson admit to having. They can’t stay put anywhere. This colors my opinion that if UT wanted to have him there is a good chance they could get him. And yes, I agree that it would likely be short term.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 12:52 PM CST reply actions
REMEMBER PEOPLE THIS IS JUST SPECULATION.
WE PHILOSO-FY’N UP IN HERE.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 12:53 PM CST reply actions
Snide,
Saban didn’t leave LSU for Bama. He left LSU for the NFL. When he flamed out, Bama was there waiting. So its not really fair to say he jumped ship from LSU for a slightly higher salary at Bama.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 12:56 PM CST reply actions
I don’t know much about Briles history past Houston, I knew he was a winning high school coach. His team looked pretty disiplined when they kicked our ass last year though.
He may be an ass, but so is Saban and Jimmy Johnson, makes a good coach I think. May be too much of an ass to coach at Texas.
by 10HORNS on Nov 30, 2011 1:17 PM CST reply actions
Snide Aside:
Yes this is the internet where anyone can say anything. Does that mean they should? I just said my preference was to postpone that talk until an appropriate time.
“Lighten up – what we have to say won’t affect a damnned thing.”
If you think it won’t affect a thing, talk to JS, who just had his big humidor post shut down for the time being by Belmont. Blogs are rumor breeding grounds and some of that stuff then goes viral in the fanbase. You’re kidding yourself if you think the program does’t keep tabs, at least on some level, on whats being said on here and other boards, because PR is important. Do you think they want a rumor about Mack leaving going widespread? The effect is not that they’ll hire the coach the bloggers want to hire. The potential effect is that they’ll shut down the Asset, the Big Cigar, etc., and we won’t have nearly as much fun.
by Texastough on Nov 30, 2011 1:23 PM CST reply actions
I don’t know much about Briles history past Houston, I knew he was a winning high school coach. His team looked pretty disiplined when they kicked our ass last year though.
He may be an ass, but so is Saban and Jimmy Johnson, makes a good coach I think. May be too much of an ass to coach at Texas.
Briles turned Stephenville (a school with a decades long history of doing absolutely nothing in football) into a 4 time state champion. A level they haven’t returned to since. And as you say, he may be an ass, but so are some of the best coaches coveted in the sport. When they coach an opponent they are “an ass”, but when they coach your team they are “businesslike”. All that said, I’m not necessarily advocating Briles over all the other names.
by Nunna Yo Bizness on Nov 30, 2011 1:31 PM CST reply actions
So, belmont is going to put the kibosh on the asset and BigCig. Because Snide, Big Ern, and TDL…virtual nobodies (no offense) are tossing around ideas and repeating rumors in the comment section of an unaffiliated sports blog.
Got it!
and might I add….PUUUUULLLLLEEEAAZZZEE!
I don’t know, maybe my problem is that I don’t think the world revolves around me and my wanderings.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 1:36 PM CST reply actions
“So, belmont is going to put the kibosh on the asset and BigCig.”
It already has several times, including this weeks humidor. They’re sensitive to things like longhorn nation rumoring that Mack’s being forced out, fancy that.
I’m not paranoid, but Belmont does keep tabs. And yes I think its fun to discuss potential coaching replacements, even though I like Mack with all his faults and would rather focus on games yet to be played and put off that talk til later.
Y’all are missing the point of my post which was kind of joining the discussion, to point out that Scip has already opined on hiring coaches from successful small schools.
by Texastough on Nov 30, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions
Nunna, thanks for the history. I’m not advocating Briles either, but thought he might be a candidate for some of the jobs that are open now or opening later.
by 10HORNS on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM CST reply actions
I was not advocating anyone, and for the record am not a fan of Petersen. And I hope Mack stays for as long as he likes and is allowed to leave gracefully under his own terms.
And I am not a nobody. I am the CFO of the Fighting Texas Aggies athletics department.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM CST reply actions
Texastough – I wasn’t trying to call you out. I was simply pointing out that this is an opinion blog and if Belmont makes decisions based on MINE or your opinion, then they are no better than tAMU and are in deep shit!. Frankly, just because the OP SAYS they are getting inside info does not mean they are. Names have not been given.
Freedom of speech and the press and all that apply here. If the coaching opinions piss you off – don’t read them.
Besides, as far as my remarks – most of the people on this and other blogs, that read my crap, think I am a dipshit anyway!
by Snide Aside on Nov 30, 2011 2:49 PM CST reply actions
Do you think this is THE BLOG that Belmont follows out of the entire internet. What is discussed here is their gauge of the plebeians of Longhorn nation’s zeitgeist? I think you are missing the point of JS back-burnering the humidor. Yes it must be something that requires discretion, and I’m sure he made the right move, but that has nothing to do with us speculating. Our speculation does not ADD to any pressures in Belmont, does not further embarrass or spill the beans, it does not create a need for Belmont to change course or maneuver. Why? because you and I and the other COMMENTERS here blend into the massive internet clutter.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions
Besides, as far as my remarks – most of the people on this and other blogs, that read my crap, think I am a dipshit anyway!
I don’t think you’re a dipshit..
…..Dipshit.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 2:58 PM CST reply actions
The Pirate is going to Wash State… its official according to Bruce Feldman.
by Big Ern on Nov 30, 2011 2:59 PM CST reply actions
Just sayin, belmont keeps tabs on whats being said, including this blog, and has shut down JS’ sources several times. I think they care about commenters to the extent that it represents or indicates rumors going around the fanbase, or rumors that could grow. They have a PR machine and are sensitive to inside info getting out and what fans are talking about. No its not a big deal, and most stuff on here doesn’t matter. But I, for one, would like to keep getting the info JS is privy to. Speculation about Mack leaving doesn’t help matters. Not trying to blow this out of proportion because yeah its a flea on an elephant’s butt.
My main thing is why are we talking about it now, when there are games to go and nothing concrete whatsoever about any changes, not that I’m worried about Belmont getting pissy. You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to mine, and I’m just voicing it — there’s a long offseason to talk about that.
by Texastough on Nov 30, 2011 3:06 PM CST reply actions
If they were sensitive to the fanbase they’d have shitcanned Greg Davis half a decade ago.
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 3:13 PM CST reply actions
I suggest we let JS worry about what he does and doesn’t print and not worry about it. We don’t know why he made his decision on this or anything else, but i’m sure he will tell us when he feels it is appropriate. These are his sources and he may have just as easily done a hold up because corcumstances changed without any involvment for UT.
Alrhough JS, Asset post last week may have initially fueled it, this is really just a bunch of people talking about “what if” scenarios for Mack’s replacement when and if he steps down and some way premature speculation, IMO, about a decent BCS program making a coordinator its head coach who has all of two years experience at the BCS level. It could happen, but….
As for Saban, he has Larry Brown Syndrome. His intensity and style wears on him and those around him and he loves a new challenge because it wipes that slate clean and reinvigorates him. If Bama wins it all this year, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him moving on pretty soon. The expectations on him there will be enormous—-more than any of you can imagine who haven’t lived there. He knows that, too I imagine.
by Jake Lonergan on Nov 30, 2011 3:26 PM CST reply actions
“If they were sensitive to the fanbase they’d have shitcanned Greg Davis half a decade ago.”
Hahaha yeah you win
by Texastough on Nov 30, 2011 3:29 PM CST reply actions
My main thing is why are we talking about it now, when there are games to go and nothing concrete whatsoever about any changes, not that I’m worried about Belmont getting pissy. You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to mine, and I’m just voicing it — there’s a long offseason to talk about that.
BECAUSE I WANT TO FUCKING TALK ABOUT IT, THAT’S WHY!
IF JS wants thinks what we are saying is somehow harmful then he can pull the comments.
MODERATOR POWERS EXIST
by Team Dirty Leg on Nov 30, 2011 3:33 PM CST reply actions
“But I, for one, would like to keep getting the info JS is privy to. Speculation about Mack leaving doesn’t help matters.”
Are you really running with this? The best way for “sensitive” matters to not matter is not to bring them up on a public blog.
Therefore, I suggest you voice your complaint to JS as he is the one that semi-alluded to this.
by Snide Aside on Nov 30, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions
I think Mack is here 2 more years. He owes that to the fine coaching staff he hired. I think he promised them 3 years, one almost down, two to go. One thing to think about, when Mack goes, the Next coach, if its not Applewhite will have a PR nightmare on his hands if he sends Applewhite packing.
by 55f100tx on Nov 30, 2011 3:53 PM CST reply actions
As long as we’re wildly speculating, but mainly because I love the fit of my tinfoil hat, I want to take a swag at what was actually behind Jesus’s teaser:
As I recall, the initial teaser was that Brown might be asked to provide a transition timeline and plan if he doesn’t retire this year AND that there were some reasons (or a reason) that might make Brown want to retire this year. Jesus followed up a couple of times in the thread to re-iterate that Brown was NOT being in any way forced out. IOW, this wasn’t a matter of running out of runway, but instead driven by other things.
So, I see two separate vectors: One that might provide incentive for Brown to hang up his spurs sooner rather than later, and another that was making the cigars and PTB want a firm transition timeline. My guess for the first is that ESPN has reached out to Brown as a potential replacement for Meyer on CGD. My guess for the second is an effort to re-visit HCIW with a timeline this time for the purposes of keeping Diaz on campus.
by tx2step on Nov 30, 2011 5:31 PM CST reply actions
No one who makes $5 million per year is going to leave, esp when all they have to do to get the $5 mill is beat Rice, Wyoming, and 4-5 not so good Big 12 teams. Remember Tom Landry? Bowden? Paterno? These guys never leave. You have to fire them or force them out.
by Honey Badger on Nov 30, 2011 9:49 PM CST reply actions
Snide,
Between your incessant usage of the word stoopsies and using anything Athlon Sports puts out as a reliable reference source pretty much confirms that we don’t think you are a dipshit, but think it.
by Davey O'Brien on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 PM CST reply actions

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