Practice Report From The Asset
Greetings to all of you that are Jonesing…
I was able to catch up with The Asset for this week’s Bowl Practice report and as always it’s quite interesting. I mean, what’s not interesting about Chris Whaley playing tight end, Jaxon Shipley throwing passes to David Ash, and Demarco Cobbs getting nose to nose with Darius White for pillorying the Texas program to recruits and prospects like DGB and Kendall Sanders? Practice reports are nearly a Longhorn tradition where locker room legends are made and trick plays are revealed. Enjoy…
First let’s start up with everyone’s position of concern, the quarterback. The Asset tells us that David Ash, surprisingly, has gotten the preponderance of the starter’s snaps this week at practice. We’re told Ash has benefitted from the switch in scheme to more two man routes that require reading half the field and finding the open man off of that single read. The Asset says the scheme is predicated on running the football and here’s where the good news comes in.
At running back, Joe Bergeron looks to be close to 100% with the ability to open things up when breaking to the open field. The training staff is focused on keeping the talented freshman warm between breaks by making sure he’s getting reps on the bike between series and carries we’re told--Amen. The Asset also says that Malcolm Brown is closer and closer to full strength and getting significant reps as the point man in Texas’ Wildcat look. Again, don’t be surprised to see some work out of this set that includes Malcolm with a pitch man like DJ on the edge.
At receiver, the good news is that Jaxon Shipley is moving better than ever since the knee injury. He’s still somewhat limited by the knee brace, but he’s cutting and moving much, much better. There’s a better than average chance Ship will be allowed to use a neoprene sleeve in lieu of the brace come game day. If that happens, look out because the true freshman WR has been catching everything in sight and running precise routes. It’s also important to note that Mike Davis looks to be a new receiver now that he’s been isolated from everybody’s All-American from the metro-plex Darius White.
As for tight end, The Asset says there wasn’t much work with Chris Whaley at the position unlike last week. It’s more of the usual suspects here in the last few sessions, Keep in mind that Chris Whaley is an eligible receiver in the kick game aside from his defensive tackle duties.
Overall, on the offensive end, the plan is to smash Cal upfront with the run game and then build upon the running success with play-action down field using Ash, and to an extent Case McCoy. With all the bullets in the gun, the Texas staff is confident in this game plan.
Along the defensive line, your budding star so far in the bowl workouts is Desmond Jackson. He’s been the most improved player along the defensive line from Baylor week to this point which means Bo Davis will have an embarrassment of riches at the position now and going into next season. Don’t sleep on Dorsey, Whaley, Randall, and Howell The Asset tells us, although Jackson has been the eye-opener at the position. The defensive ends are pretty much the same, but The Asset tells us that he’s heard Alex Okafor has told coaches he’ll be back for his senior season. Another note, Jackson Jeffcoat looks as healthy as he’s looked all season. He’s looking like a bona fide 5 star.
At linebacker, as we first reported on Recruitocosm last week Demarco Cobbs has become Texas’ inspirational leader of the future by bowing up to Darius White for disparaging the Texas Program to visiting prospects. The Asset tells us that Cobbs has carried over this type of "moxy" to the practice field by blowing up everything in sight. Don’t be surprised to see the sophomore out of Oklahoma get some serious snaps against the Bears to announce his arrival onto the 2012 scene. Dude flies to the football like a safety and lays the lumber like an outside linebacker. As for the rest, it’s Robinson, Acho, and a healthy Jordan Hicks which should spell bad news for the Cal Bear offense.
In the defensive backfield, the Longhorns aren’t going to surprise their Pac 8 10 16 12 opponent. The Asset claims it’s still Vaccaro, Phillips, Diggs, Byndom, and Gideon for the most part with Mykkelle Thompson and Sheroid Evans getting some snaps now that Christian Scott is injured. We’ll see if Texas can stop the run with the aforementioned five manning the secondary in nickel.
Overall defensively, the theme is retribution after being taken apart by RGIII and those Bears. The Asset says the kids are motivated to "right the wrong" that happened in Waco.
Some recruiting notes, as Recruitocosm first reported, Texas recruits on the KSU visit and independently during the banquet claim that Texas leads for 5 star recruits Dorial Green-Beckham and Mario Edwards, Jr. While Recruitocosm feels the recruitment outcomes of these talented prospects are probably 60% and 75% respectively for the good guys, fellow commits Connor Brewer and Camhron Hughes feel the Longhorns rate to be 80% favorites to land the services of each difference making prospect. So, with that, who are we to quibble?
Hook ‘Em
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Good stuff, thanks! Fun to watch the team evolve……………….(first?)
by 2th DK on Dec 21, 2011 11:02 PM CST reply actions
apparently Quandre Diggs said MJ McFarland has looked great in bowl practices and is someone to watch going into next year…. God knows we need a Tight end in the worst way
by Themicah915 on Dec 21, 2011 11:11 PM CST reply actions
DGB’s uncle told my father, his golf buddy, that DGB was signing with OU, “no doubt”. Grrrrrr!!
by Confirmed Fact on Dec 21, 2011 11:11 PM CST reply actions
Re: OU recruiting running into problems, I was about to mouth off about their losing a top JC cornerback recruit today, when JC guys can officially sign LOIs … they apparently lost Kass Everett to Texas Tech when he announced he was switching to TT and dropping the Sooners in a press conference earlier this morning.
But when I just checked the site to get his name correctly (Thomas Jefferson, anyone?) to my surprise he had received The Call from OU today after his press conference and switched back to them.
Damn, this is confusing … I guess the point is that if their firm recruits are getting wobbly and casting loving eyes at schools like TT then maybe they are not doing too well with the true 5 star studs we are interested in, DGB and Super Mario. At least we can hope …
Anyway, here’s the link on scout.com … http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1141175.html
by desert fox on Dec 21, 2011 11:14 PM CST reply actions
DGB will not sign with OU for a few reasons. First and foremost, OU has all sorts of internal issues right now ranging from renegade position coaches/S&C coaches to “random” drug tests currently being doled out in CYA fashion. That’s all I can say about that currently.
As for DGB, it’s Arkansas vs. Texas with Texas being a recent favorite. DGB’s family loves Texas and trusts Coach Brown and Staff. If we had a cog at QB this would be a done deal by now. Brewer and Hughes have flat told us Texas leads regardless.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Dec 21, 2011 11:17 PM CST reply actions
“Overall, on the offensive end, the plan is to smash Cal upfront with the run game and then build upon the running success with play-action down field using Ash, and to an extent Case McCoy.”
This is almost verbatim what was written in early-season practice reports. I hope it starts to work.
by zzzizzzy on Dec 21, 2011 11:21 PM CST reply actions
I knew there was a reason I check in here right before going to sleep! Thanks for the update!
by Brian Combs on Dec 21, 2011 11:25 PM CST reply actions
zzzz, it seems verbatim because our personnel hasn’t really changed since then. By the way, check UCLA vs. Cal boxscore.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Dec 21, 2011 11:25 PM CST reply actions
Gracias Jesus!
What is the chance Texas brings in a JUCO QB? I know JUCO signing day was today and mack already said we probably won’t, but are we really not going to redshirt brewer?
by LONGHORN8656 on Dec 21, 2011 11:36 PM CST reply actions
Longhorn8656, I doubt it happens now. I think they’ll roll with Ash, McCoy, and Brewer next season. Overstreet will prolly shirt but their making a huge bet on Ash improving because we’ll have national championship pieces in place everywhere else in 2013,
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Dec 21, 2011 11:39 PM CST reply actions
Regardless of where they sign, do we have any notion as to when DGB and Edwards plan to announce?
by chairman on Dec 21, 2011 11:41 PM CST reply actions
Thanks, JS! Love getting these updates!
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Dec 21, 2011 11:44 PM CST reply actions
Give em hell Haysus
a lot of twit action (as Mack calls it) the last couple days.
Oklahoma is going to lose its ass in recruiting with the exception of Nelson Agh. As it appears Kenny Stills has a voodoo thing working on him.
The “tweeters” indicate we’re gonna get signatures from DG-B and Edwards…..
Watch for one more “SUPRISE” maybe like a Arik Armstead.
Hook’Em Texas
ho ho ho Merry Christmas
by jet on Dec 21, 2011 11:47 PM CST reply actions
what exactly is happening at OU with their coaches that is making recruits jump ship?
by LONGHORN8656 on Dec 21, 2011 11:48 PM CST reply actions
Thanks JS!!
A good showing by Ash in San Diego might also help DGB believe more in the QB. Hope we can play a good 4 quarters and finish off Cal.
I am worried about the size of their WRs vs our DBs. I think our front 5-7 can handle their run. Very happy to hear that Mike Davis might have returned to the team(figuratively).
by thecontractor on Dec 21, 2011 11:49 PM CST reply actions
Justn spent mins talking to Harsin and his family at best buy in south Austin. Very cool cat. Asked about DGB, HE SAID they will know when we now. I said no we have Jesus on our side so we will know first, everyone is healthy and ready to. Very nice dude
by Chris G on Dec 21, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions
Yo Jesus …
I think Overstreet plays next year.
reasons?
Look at his physical maturity
gives Harsin a completely different set of variables to work with (since I think he’s grooming DAsh to be more of a pocket QB )
I think the staff wants to shirt Brewer and. Look how much bigger his two older brothers (and dad) are… lots of potential there.
Anyway, my 2-bits worth.
by jet on Dec 21, 2011 11:56 PM CST reply actions
If Brewer is the future, which seems to be the case since Harsin hand-picked him. Why aren’t we going to redshirt him?
by LONGHORN8656 on Dec 21, 2011 11:59 PM CST reply actions
I’m so glad we’ve decided to implement the James Brown- vs. OU offense in game 13. How much are we paying these guys for this?
I enjoy these reports, but I have a nagging feeling they are being produced by IMG Sports…
by Juice on Dec 22, 2011 12:04 AM CST reply actions
Wow. I checked out your preferred pay site, InsideTexas.com. It was like your first newsletter and more! But it lacked the intrigue of limited distribution…
by VaHorn on Dec 22, 2011 12:17 AM CST reply actions
Cobbs is a sophomore? We haven’t even used him yet. Is this Sergio type of criminal misuse?
by Mysterious Package on Dec 22, 2011 12:17 AM CST reply actions
If Ash and/or McCoy dont make bad mistakes then Brewer will redshirt. All 4 QBs will get some time in spring, if Brewer wins that competition he might not redshirt. Too early to speculate, nothing is definite yet.
by thecontractor on Dec 22, 2011 12:18 AM CST reply actions
2008 says the transitive property doesn’t apply in football, so I wouldn’t put much stock in the UCLA – Cal game.
by Puzzles on Dec 22, 2011 12:24 AM CST reply actions
MP, unfortunately Cobbs only has 2 more years left. Played only on ST his Fr season and he broke is arm and missed half of this year. Hopefully we can finally unleash him vs Cal!
by thecontractor on Dec 22, 2011 12:31 AM CST reply actions
Puzzles, 5.7 yards a tote for UCLA vs. Cal isn’t transitive, it’s comical.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Dec 22, 2011 12:33 AM CST reply actions
Could Cobbs possibly get a medical redshirt for this year, or has he played too much to qualify?
by AFHorn on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 AM CST reply actions
Kevin Prince, the UCLA QB, ran for 163 yards on 19 rushes vs Cal. The wild horn option play could be very effective vs Cal. In that formation Ash could be used primarily as a blocking WR and occasionally as a passer.
Cal might be vulnerable to Ash at QB rolling out with the options to:
- run
- hand off on a sprint draw
- pitch to TB
- pass
- pitch to a reverse man
Bowl games tend to be sloppy so introducing a new offense based on option pitches or Ash rolling out might be a turnover circus.
Cal also turned the ball over 5 times on 4 picks and 1 fumble vs UCLA.
by Kafka on Dec 22, 2011 1:24 AM CST reply actions
Jesus….
Do you ever sleep.
I see your threads, tweets, & emails all hours of the day.
the (double secret) emails make since at late hours due to the nature of their nature.
Dude!!! You must own an espresso shop that sells Chinese /south Africa energy herbs on the side.
You da man bubba keep the good stuff coming.
PS I’ve yet to receive the special Christmas edition choiba signed by you &the coaching staff.
The endorsed blank check has apparently cleared the bank (they called and questioned my doing business with you) and I told em to “run” the check although I was shocked to see the amount you wrote in.
Regardless I trust I see my cigar before next year.
Thanks again.
by jet on Dec 22, 2011 3:08 AM CST reply actions
Good stuff JS,
Keep waiting to see the practice product, with respect to the WRs (other than Ship) manifest itself on the field. Let’s hope Davis’ consistency issues were transferred along with his former roomie.
What’s the “what” with the inside Texas site?
by D.C. Horn on Dec 22, 2011 6:52 AM CST reply actions
Thanks for the post, JS. Agree on InsideTexas as the best pay site. Blake Monroe is doing some very good work there. I wonder sometimes if the Asset and El Cohiba are also among their sources as there is often overlap in content.
In any case, Happy Holidays to you and all in the BC/’Cosm community.
by hopefulhorn on Dec 22, 2011 6:54 AM CST reply actions
Two-man reads sound like something Ash could possibly handle a little better, but I’m concerned about whether that’ll manifest itself in staring contests with the receivers. On the bright side, as long as the receivers who know they’re not the reads still dedicate themselves to running believable decoy routes, the ones who aren’t decoys should be able to concentrate a little better on catching, knowing that they’re much more likely to be the targets.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 22, 2011 7:05 AM CST reply actions
If the running game is working as we need it to, the simplified approach will be good for Ash et al.
This defense playing mad and pissed off and with focus is a scary prospect (fir the opponent).
I’ve been continually amazed at how active Brewer has been, apparently, as a recruiter. I don’t remember the last time a player who has yet to arrive has had so much press (here and on Recruitocosm) as a recruit contact. This is very exciting as regards his potential leadership role.
by lurkerinthedark on Dec 22, 2011 7:28 AM CST reply actions
I might add that I really have high hopes for Ash to take to his new role like a duck to water and lead this team next year. I really would like to see Brewer redshirted for the benefits that would bring.
I, too, have been puzzled why more rollout has not been incorporated into the game plan before now, considering what we know about our QBs when they get pressure.
by lurkerinthedark on Dec 22, 2011 7:32 AM CST reply actions
Wtf,
You are pimping for paysites now? That’s very un-dude of you.
by Big Ern on Dec 22, 2011 7:45 AM CST reply actions
Thanks for the update, Jesus & Asset.
I don’t know if I buy Malcolm Brown cast in the role of Kevin Prince running a zone read out of the pistol. Can he complete 50-55% of his throws as well? To sell it, he’d have to turnover the ball or get injured at some point. Then Joe Bergeron would have to come in wearing a Brehaut jersey. It gets complicated, but it could confuse Pendergast.
Love to hear the younger guys are getting reps and having success in the extra practices.
Inside Texas is favored in the sight of Jesus, eh? I suppose that’s a coveted endorsement. Not sure what makes them better than the team at 247, but mazel tov.
by Saul on Dec 22, 2011 7:52 AM CST reply actions
Looks like even Jesus himself isn’t above taking a little scrilla for pimping his site out. Might as well just put an IT banner up
by Paulie on Dec 22, 2011 7:59 AM CST reply actions
Ash made huge strides last time we had an open week. I think he’ll surprise after these bowl practices.
by bat on Dec 22, 2011 8:02 AM CST reply actions
I think the QB situation is extremely fluid right now. That could be why we are hearing nothing regarding Juco players, transfers, redshirting, etc…
If Ash plays really well, several things might happen. Case may transfer. DGB may sign. Brewer may redshirt.
If Ash plays poorly, Case may stay. We may try like hell to find a QB from D-1 or Juco. DGB may be 50/50. Brewer will get an audition in the Spring.
Just a guess.
I’ve got a question about the trick plays in Harsin’s playbook – or lack thereof over the 2nd half of the season. I’ve heard and read that the base offense has to work well to then set up the trick plays. Why isn’t this philosophy more symbiotic? In other words, if a defense has to worry about everything, wouldn’t that also set up the base offense? If I’m, say, a safety and have to think about the possibility of the QB running out on a flare pattern (is that the right terminology) wouldn’t that moment of hesitation also help a regular running game?
by Ty on Dec 22, 2011 8:07 AM CST reply actions
Burntorangehorn: Ideally, in a 2-man read the QB isn’t reading the receivers, he’s reading a defender and will throw to whichever of the 2 receivers the defender has less leverage against. Good QB’s stare down defenders and then throw where they know the receivers will be.
Is anyone else concerned that we only just now simplified the passing game for Ash? What have we been asking him to do up till now? Did we overload his mother board?
by Nickel Rover on Dec 22, 2011 8:09 AM CST reply actions
Ty: I think the worry with trick plays that aren’t set up by base plays is that you’ll see what you did against OU. 30 yard losses and possession-ending negative plays.
by Nickel Rover on Dec 22, 2011 8:10 AM CST reply actions
Big Ern – My thoughts exactly.
JS- Are you an author over there under a different pen name or getting endorsement scrilla?
by D.C. Horn on Dec 22, 2011 8:10 AM CST reply actions
I don’t know the specific reasoning behind the shout out, but one can be a fan of someone’s work without taking cash to publicize it. You may want to hold off on jumping to that conclusion.
by Saul on Dec 22, 2011 8:15 AM CST reply actions
Given that Cal seemed to have serious issues on contain in the UCLA game the roll-out seems to be tailor-made for this game. Cal is solid up the gut and seem to have issues on the edges. We would be wise to threaten that and loosen up the middle of the defense.
by codaxx on Dec 22, 2011 8:18 AM CST reply actions
If Ash does well and Case transfers, we need to sign a JUCO or another experienced QB.
If Ash sucks and Case plays, we need to sign a JUCO or another experienced QB.
by Heisman 98 on Dec 22, 2011 8:19 AM CST reply actions
Love the news about Des and Cobbs stepping up. Credit the coaching staff as well.
With the defense in 2012, 10 wins is very possible IF we get the QB area taken care of.
by Jay Philippe on Dec 22, 2011 8:20 AM CST reply actions
a lot of the questions about our offense this year seem to me to point to a huge question i originally had about this switchover. bryan harsin had never installed an offense where a greg davis had had a 13-year head start laying land mines. i wondered how difficult this transition would be on him and how many blind alleys we’d head up before he could pick a path.
we sure ’nough hit a few mines, but nothing large enough to crack our crankcase, so we are moving on, sore but wiser.
i’m as bullish on bryan and major – and the other o-coaches – as i’ve ever been. they are both sharp, innovative young men who learn as they go. can’t ask for better than that, given our circumstance.
excellent report. many thanks.
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by Saul on Dec 22, 2011 8:37 AM CST reply actions
Thanks for these reports. Thanks for your work to help the HORN Nation stay informed.
The recruiting class of 2012 is as loaded as we have had in several years. If we get DGB and Mario will there still be room to take the TE from Mesquite Horn.
I’m intrigued by Jalen Overstreet and what he could mean to our future as I am for Conner Brewer. The future is bright for the Longhorns. Do you think the future for Ash can be seen in the bowl game with Cal? Ash can almost rate as a Sophmore player at this point in the season.
by staylucky on Dec 22, 2011 8:54 AM CST reply actions
NR, it certainly appeared that Ash was overwhelmed in his reads from the snaps that we saw through the middle of the season. His throws seemed rushed and he consistently was behind in his timing.
Rollouts should simplify his reads, as well as give him the safety option to tuck it and run. If Harsin sets Ash up for success with the gimme throws to help build his confidence, I think the passing game can grow leaps and bounds. I’d also like to see Harsin mix in some RB flares to pull the LB’s out of the passing lanes.
by BimmerFan on Dec 22, 2011 9:03 AM CST reply actions
I’m going to say this so many times I sound like a broken record, but even without good QB play next year we should win 10 games at a minimum.
We have 3 gimme’s in pre season, OSU loses everyone on offense, OU loses a ton, BU loses the 2 most important people on their team and the difference between them winning 5 games and 9, we are flat topns better than ISU, Tech and Kansas, and of course we will lose to KState. This team doesn’t need good or even average QB play to win 10 next year with the Defense and RB we have, we just need to have it where not every running back on campus gets hurt and we are down to 5th string.
Ash, if given the shot, will be plenty good enough to win us 10 games next year, I am very confident. We might even win 10 with Case QB’ing next year. What I want to see is if Ash can get to a level where we can win a national title, b/c I know that Case cannot, even in a Dilfer winning a super bowl with the Ravens sense.
by Wulaw Horn on Dec 22, 2011 9:09 AM CST reply actions
I just read the 247 practice report and am (not so) surprised to read that Mike Davis is said to have attitude (not positive) issues during the practices. This contradicts what you wrote about Davis: “It’s also important to note that Mike Davis looks to be a new receiver now that he’s been isolated from everybody’s All-American from the metro-plex Darius White.”
—The operative question is “when” did the Asset give you your practice tidbits compared to what is being reported at 247, as it reads like it’s a cumulative report.
So, is he or “aint” he a new receiver now that Darius “the Cancer” White has been excised from the team?
by D.C. Horn on Dec 22, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions
247’s report was pretty negative on Ash as well – doesn’t necessarily contradict anything that Jesus said, but their practice sources were pretty blunt that there appears to have been no improvement and that Ash still struggles with accuracy and his reads. Saying Mal Brown is still wearing a knee brace.
Most interesting thing in the report to me was pretty glowing reports on Sed Flowers saying he dominated Randall in drills.
by Big Ern on Dec 22, 2011 9:24 AM CST reply actions
The only contradiction was Mike Davis, that I read anyway.
by D.C. Horn on Dec 22, 2011 9:29 AM CST reply actions
Great report. Excited about Shipley for another 3 years!
10 win season, the Mack Brown barometer, is not a Texas measure of success. It’s an arbitrary number that takes the stink off losing to OU. Just beat our rivals and let the rest take care of itself!
by Mysterious Package on Dec 22, 2011 9:35 AM CST reply actions
I’ve been an InsideTexas subscriber for 15+ years. Between them and the barkers, I have more content than I can read. Both sites call it like they see it and aren’t obsessed with the first to report bullshit that inevitably degrades the content.
Keep it up barkers!
by Wethorn on Dec 22, 2011 9:48 AM CST reply actions
Nickel Rover: “Did we overload his motherboard?”
My question exactly. It is beyond puzzling that four QBs, ranging from 3 to 5 stars, have failed to get traction the last couple of years at UT under two different coaching regimes. One didn’t get a public shot, but the other three didn’t just fail to get the job done, they flailed and retrogressed. I’ve asked a couple of times here what gives… still open to insight from any of you with a clue.
A couple of duds is one thing, but at some point you have to figure the floundering is a feature of the scheme or of player development. Having Overstreet or Thompson (Y2K) QB an option running attack featuring our trio of premiere running backs strikes me as a highly viable alternative to a spotty passing attack.
by OldTimeHorn on Dec 22, 2011 10:15 AM CST reply actions
NickelRover.. I agree that it is odd that it has taken this long for Harsin/white to realize they should dumb down the offense. I think Harsin put too much pressure on himself to be the golden boy. HE wanted his system in and to be able to call everything and impress us with his ability. I think he may have let the pressure get to him. Hopefully, this is a sign he has settled in and is comfortable and now ready to fulfill our expectations
by codaxx on Dec 22, 2011 10:17 AM CST reply actions
“Ash if given the shot, will be plenty enough good to win us 10 games next year, I am very confident” quote by Wulaw Horn
Oh, Really ! Ash and McCoy do not have it my friend. Any limited success they have will be predicated on the running game when they only have to pass <10 times a game.
by bornahorn on Dec 22, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions
what exactly is happening at OU with their coaches that is making recruits jump ship?
Read about it on recruitocosm at this sorry assed thread …
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/12/17/quick-cigarplayer-updates-on-edwards-and-dgb/ … you’ll have to wade about 20 posts into it to find the rumors and dirt but once you do you’ll find it just doesn’t stop.
And if you feel the urge to respond please do it there instead of here. Please.
by desert fox on Dec 22, 2011 10:32 AM CST reply actions
You got that right, desert fox. Why would all these Texas fans presume anyone gives a good goddam about their views on homosexuality?
Now, when it comes to a hint of homosexuality at OU, I’d like to think we’re all of one mind… that it is beyond deplorable and that no self-respecting 4- or 5-star recruit should even consider going there.
After all “Boomer Sooner” is an anagram for “Room o’ Boners,” and their colors are crimson and cream. The evidence of something seriously whack in Norman is pretty damn overwhelming.
by OldTimeHorn on Dec 22, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions
With Ship back and “Nefarious Darius” gone we should improve dramatically at receiver. With Ash given a simpler progression he should improve. With a heathy pair of running backs our run game will be back. Our D is fired up and so am I.
Mario and DGB come on! Let’s go BCS bowline’ next year.
by I said I on Dec 22, 2011 10:51 AM CST reply actions
Amazing to me how many people want to write off a true freshman playing in a transition year for the program. If he doesn’t start to put it together in the spring then start to panic.
by DCTexasEx on Dec 22, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions
I absolutely cannot believe you just linked to that painful thread… the link itself should be radioactive. It’s like everybody chose to display their worst selves, on both sides of the aisle.
by The Bobs on Dec 22, 2011 11:13 AM CST reply actions
JS, Thanks for the practice report. I love these even though I lose a bit of productivity at work.
I think a good running game cures all. If our backs are truly close to 100%, I don’t think we will have any problem at all running the ball against Cal and, as long as we are moving the chains on the ground, I think Ash will be at least adequate, if not good. IMO, he had too much pressure to quick. Big time college football is just too quick for most freshmen qbs. I really hope we are able to redshirt Brewer.
by sedonajim on Dec 22, 2011 11:20 AM CST reply actions
Borna- you completely missed my point as it zoomed over your head. I said Ash and possibly Case could win 10 games next year- this isn’t praise for them, rather an indictment of our schedule along with praise for our Defense and running game.
Put another way, this year we managed 7 wins, with our top 3 running backs going down that directly caused the loss of Aggie and KState, against a top 10 schedule in the land. Next year, we get a once in a generation type talent at Running Back, our Oline gets a year older (all freshman and sophomores except snow), our Defense loses very little of importance and clearly has the pieces in place to replace what they lose. Oh, and that top 10 schedule in the land probably becomes rated about 40th or 50th.
With not one ounce of improvement from Ash or McCoy I would expect that even with the traveshamockery that was our QB situation this year we would still win 10 games.
Thought exercize for you- how many games does this UT team win playing the schedule we played in 2005, but substiuting Tulsa for the Ohio State? Because that’s about what our schedule next year looks to be. OU down, and mediocre for pretty much the rest of the conference. That UT team played something like 2 or 3 teams that were ranked. I wouldn’t be surprised if next year plays out similarly, and all the ranked teams we play are in the ass end of the top 25, instead of this year when we got something like 6 ranked teams.
by Wulaw Horn on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM CST reply actions
Mizzou and Kansas state, not aggie obvoiusly.
by Wulaw Horn on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM CST reply actions
Wulaw – the wildcard next year will be the 2 new teams. OSU has been consistently good under Gundy, and even in our MNC game years it took some helacious comebacks to beat them. I’m not assuming a win over them anymore just because of personel turnover. Same goes for OU, a game that is always going to be tough.
KSU should be at least as good as they were this year and game should be in Manhattan.
Tech has got to get at least a little better at some point under Tubberville, right? Game should be in Lubbock.
Baylor will be worse and should be a win.
ISU will continue to play tough football and will surprise at least one good conference team again to make it 4 in a row.
Kansas will be terrible again.
And we replace 2 teams we split with this year, with 2 teams that have been better for the last 5 years. Admittedly I have no idea how good either TCU or WVU will be next year though. And both games should be at home.
I don’t see 10 wins as a given, even with good QB play.
by Horncasting on Dec 22, 2011 11:27 AM CST reply actions
And Akina will be back. The Hawaii job went to Norm Chow.
by I said I on Dec 22, 2011 11:28 AM CST reply actions
Given McCoy’s stumbling, fumbling, “I think I’ll throw the ball in a random direction, at a random velocity” performance against Baylor, I can only guess “surprisingly” is meant as sarcasm.
Re OU rumors, the current ones don’t seem adequate and I think we should start new ones.
For instance… Stoops repeatedly was slapped repeatedly as a small child, in front of the girl he loved, by a bully named Mario Green-Beckham and Stoops has always wanted a bloody revenge.
If only he could somehow get it.
by Louis L'am Jones on Dec 22, 2011 11:29 AM CST reply actions
DCTexasEX: I think some of us are just worried about having competent QB play in time to wield the amazing team we are putting together. I’m not writing off Ash, clearly there is a timetable though. We need him to seize the starting job next year.
by Nickel Rover on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM CST reply actions
Cool report.
Re: DGB and Mario Edwards, in the previous report you asked Brewer and Hughes what the chances of landing them were and they said 80%…as far as ME goes. DGB OTOH, I believe we stand at 50%, not 80% as you mentioned.
by TexanBlood on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM CST reply actions
Wulaw horn: The assumption around here is that we were competent QB play away from 9 or 10 wins this year.
Everyone on the schedule will be vulnerable, an elite team could roll through conference with only a few losses and even those would come from inferior teams.
TCU? Maybe that’s your elite team, not sure what they have back on D
WVU: top 25
OSU: top 25, maybe.
OU: Top 15
BU: Top 50 maybe
KU: Top 100
KSU: Top 15
Tech: They aren’t breaking the top 30 anytime real soon
Iowa St: my sleeper. Top 20
Texas: The feeling around here is that this is a top 5 team with Gray-Berg-Brown and competent QB throwing to Shipley-Davis and co. Almost the entire OL is back and should be considerably better at the tackle spots. A top 5 team will roll through the above-mentioned teams with 1 or 2 slip-ups. Who else do you think can win this league?
by Nickel Rover on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM CST reply actions
someone mentioned the other day that had harsin known that garrett wouldn’t work out, he would have handled the qb training in a much different way. i absolutely agree. in a sense, david got blindsided something like what garrett got hit with. he really wasn’t ready – regardless of asset’s or anyone else’s observations – much like garrett wasn’t prepared for his situation. what bryan did made perfect sense, given what he was seeing from garrett. had garrett handled the season and had david continued to develop on a fairly leisurely timetable, that would have been ideal.
the one thing that might have happened to maximize unreadiness did happen. had david and case been prepped to wing it from the get-go, we might have had a very different season, but it still wouldn’t have been as ideal, given the circumstances, as had garrett come around.
by yeh on Dec 22, 2011 12:17 PM CST reply actions
>>>>>Amazing to me how many people want to write off a true freshman playing in a transition year for the program.
Absofuckinglutely agree.
True freshmen shouldn’t see the field at QB, nevermind start. The fact that some people are so anxious to give up on Ash and immediately turn around and put another true freshman in that situation is amazing.
by RedmondLonghorn on Dec 22, 2011 12:23 PM CST reply actions
yeh, I totally agree, I don’t think anyone on the staff wanted to make Ash the man this season. Freshman QB, new system and all the rest. I think they saw all the raw tools in Ash to be a good QB, but he wasn’t nearly ready to take on the job. The tools are still there and now they’ll have a whole off season to see if they can polish him up. I haven’t given up on him just yet.
by Calihorn on Dec 22, 2011 12:28 PM CST reply actions
Nickle- you completely misunderstood me. I’m saying even if this traveling shit show of QB position doesn’t iron itself out I STILL expect Texas to win 10 games. If that’s our goal I think Ash is more than capable and perhaps even McCoy b/c we are going to be so good everywhere else.
I think it’s either us or OU next year. OSU takes a big step back as does Baylor. KU is terrible. TCU and WVU are mizzou’ish/aggieish to me (I.E. credible but not likely to win a title).
I think it should be us- winning it next year. If not I’d go OU #2 likely, KSU #3 most likely.
Love the round robin schedule- brings a sense of fairness and the idea that the best team will win the conference imo. In the old format I might call KSU a 50/50 chance to win it all and put them with the highest odds (b/c they would be about 85% likely to win the north while UT and OU both are only about 40% likely to win the south). Now it will be the best team, not the one that played against a collection of the lame, halt and weak.
by Wulaw Horn on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM CST reply actions
absolutely agree, cali. i think the smoke we are seeing says that the staff is 1) comfortable with the prospect of readying david (and building up case?), given almost a year to do it with no distraction like prepping garrett last spring and summer and 2) there is no silver bullet juco/tr qb who is clearly better than we think an off-year of attention will give us with david and/or case.
it’s not smoke like picking a pope but smoke like gears under load with the grease heating up.
by yeh on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 PM CST reply actions
Encouraging news, although I’ll believe the good news re: Mike Davis when I see it (& see it consistently).
by Joetx on Dec 22, 2011 12:49 PM CST reply actions
Wow, I wonder if I meant that as a response to someone else. Or I’ve become dyslexic.
by Nickel Rover on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM CST reply actions
Nickel – I think it was directed at me. Don’t necessarily disagree with you that strongly, but I do think that top 5 for us is a stretch, and I think that you could be underestimating OU, OSU, KSU, and WVU.
by Horncasting on Dec 22, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions
Thanks again Jesus. Your posts are like manna to all of us wandering in the desert of bad bowl games.
by I said I on Dec 22, 2011 1:08 PM CST reply actions
Nickle: I agree with you 100%. I am just tired of reading all the negative talk from people all over the intertubes proclaiming Ash as lost. I just wish everyone would hold off until at least after the spring.
We need to build a proper QB pipeline in the program which means taking one a year and redshirting them their first year. That gives them time to develop and creates some separation so we don’t see mass transfers leaving us with no depth. Hopefully that will start with Brewer being redshirted next year.
by DCTexasEx on Dec 22, 2011 1:42 PM CST reply actions
JS,
I’m a little disappointed not seeing Onyegbule’s name not mentioned among the WRs, especially with White’s departure. What is holding him back in getting the reps/opportunities to get the rock tossed his way more?
by Hooked on Dec 22, 2011 1:48 PM CST reply actions
If Case does transfer, when would he mostly likely do it- before Spring practice, during the summer, just before Fall practice?
by Iyam Welindowed on Dec 22, 2011 2:09 PM CST reply actions
So I guess HeySeuss and RomanianDrunk have moved to INsideTexas :
Today, 02:38 PM
ClendonRoss
Co-Publisher Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Austin, Tex.
Posts: 8,497
Welcome Jesus Shuttlesworth, Eric Nahlin to the InsideTexas.com Community
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Inside Texas is excited to announce the addition of Barking Carnival and Recruitocosm contributors Jesus Shuttlesworth and Eric Nahlin (Tipsy Gypsie) to InsideTexas.com.
Shuttlesworth’s regular features Mondays In The Humidor With The Big Cigar and Practice Report From The Asset are two of the most widely-viewed items at Barking Carnival and will complement InsideTexas.com’s current Members Only inside the team reports, including the weekly Inside Scoop, from Lead Writer Bill Frisbie and Web Editor Blake Munroe. Shuttlesworth and Nahlin will join Munroe to provide the best Longhorn recruiting coverage on the net.
"We’re thrilled to welcome Jesus and Eric to InsideTexas.com," Inside Texas Co-Publisher Clendon Ross said. "Over the last two years, their reports have become an absolute must-read for online Longhorn fans and we expect that to be even more true as the Horns look to return to national prominence in both football and basketball."
The Football Coaches Corner, featuring Coach Mike Venables’ weekly grades of player performances, the Basketball Coaches Corner, featuring Tim Preston’s hoops game previews, thoughts and individual player reports, Pat Culpepper’s Commentary and much more will continue to be found exclusively at InsideTexas.com.
__________________
Clendon Ross
Co-Publisher, Inside Texas
by Shlomo Mohammad Juan De'Ron Patel-Chung on Dec 22, 2011 2:22 PM CST reply actions
Wonder what Scip, Sailor, Vash et al think about the move?
by Shlomo Mohammad Juan De'Ron Patel-Chung on Dec 22, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions
So how many discount double check celebrations should we expect to see come the 28th for Texas!!!!!!
by Kyle on Dec 22, 2011 2:30 PM CST reply actions
Well, what felt like inside info from Jesus (for free) was fun while it lasted. Congrats to you and good luck in your future endeavors.
I loved this site well before that though, with quality breakdowns and humor from the likes of Scipio. I hope that continues.
by Wulaw Horn on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM CST reply actions
Scipio and Sailor faced off against Typsy and Jesus when they heard they were talking BC down to other bloggers. It looked like it would be a fight until Henry James fell out of a nearby locker and sprawled catatonic on the floor. At least, that’s what I heard from somebody claiming to be an assistant asset.
by RomaVicta on Dec 22, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions
Thanks for the write up Jesus. Really appreciate the effort through these updates.
by Buford T. Justice on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions
Roma : Was ChippyBrown hiding in the bushes nearby with Ketch heavy breathing into his ear-mike?
by Shlomo Mohammad Juan De'Ron Patel-Chung on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions
so it endeth.
goodbye and good luck. and much thanks for the great stuff.
by yeh on Dec 22, 2011 3:20 PM CST reply actions
Well, at least that bit of news explains the IT mention. Probably better to just say it outright in the initial post, but c’est la vie.
by Saul on Dec 22, 2011 3:23 PM CST reply actions
I have been a long time subscriber to InsideTexas. Although the discussion seldom approaches what is found here, the writers produce some really good material every week. I particularly like Pat Culpepper’s articles, and I have never seen them take swipes at BC like 247 does occassionally.
If you guys were to merge, InsideTexas / BC should demand a premium subscription rate.
by Flash on Dec 22, 2011 3:25 PM CST reply actions
Seriously? (I know, I know…unrealistic expectation).
Are JS and Typs like…gone?
I must have missed an episode or two lately, I suspect. Oh well, you snooze…well, you know.
Can I get a thumbnail synopsis of these “strange bedfellows in the blogoshpere” singularities from someone? I hadn’t heard of those kind of cross-pollinations and machinations between the sites. I hate change.
by Spaceghost on Dec 22, 2011 3:30 PM CST reply actions
JS,
Congrats on the success of the website. So glad it is insideTexas. Orangebloods is not near the quality of InsideTexas.
by striker on Dec 22, 2011 3:31 PM CST reply actions
If it’s (exit, stage right), thanks for the outstanding material here and best of luck with the new gig.
Can you elaborate a little on this a bit for us, JS?
PS, will you continue with the Secret Subscriptions on the side?
by Spaceghost on Dec 22, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions
And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth… And opening of wallets.
I’ve got my credit card ready, Jesus. You got a pen and paper?
by burntorangejuice on Dec 22, 2011 3:48 PM CST reply actions
Typsy, Again it was great. So glad it is insidetexas. Orangebloods is a terrible site.
congrats…
by striker on Dec 22, 2011 3:48 PM CST reply actions
I wonder if Recruitocosm will become a ghost town or will someone pick up the slack?
I have noticed over the past 18 months or so that nearly all the other Fantake sites listed on the right hand side of the BC home page have pretty much dried up.
I wonder also if Scipio will fade away into SBNation?
SBNation home page really looks high tech, but I really do not like the format and it is far too difficult to find my way to any content worth viewing. But then, that is probably me being too old to futz with it.
by Flash on Dec 22, 2011 4:11 PM CST reply actions
Jesus is just all right with me. Typsy, too.
by Jake Lonergan on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM CST reply actions
Dayum! JS & Tips both moving on to IT. Guys, it’s been a blast. Are either or both of you going to write a farewell/appreciation post before you stop posting here? Or will you post “some” stuff here, but save the juicy shiza for IT?
I too, am interested in what Scipio Tex & Sailor thoughts are on the move. I’m sure it was discussed behind “closed doors.”
by DC Horn on Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM CST reply actions
More power to both Jesus and Typsy in their new association with Inside Texas. I didn’t figure they were doing this for their health.
by Felonious Monk on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions
Flash,
You don’t have to access a SBN site through the homepage. For example: http://www.burntorangenation.com/
Biggest drawback there to me is the order of the comments. If you respond to a comment there it is placed directly below the original comment. I prefer scrolling down to the last comment I read in the thread and then reading all the new comments from there down. No idea if that’s an issue with anyone else. Their method is orderly and likely great if I were reading an archived piece, just not my format preference when a thread is still getting new comments.
by Saul on Dec 22, 2011 4:57 PM CST reply actions
I’m the only Hindu that believes in Jesus and Gypsies. Thanks for the great writing and I hope you two continue to share your thoughts on BC and ’Cosm.
I literally spit coffee all over my computer screen after reading “Having their Schmidt kicked in”
With that, I give you this:
http://www.iviewtube.com/videos/178304/snl-classic-skit-schmitts-gay-beer-commercialw
(just a joke, no need to restart a toxic discussion)
by UTgrad2006 on Dec 22, 2011 4:58 PM CST reply actions
There certainly was no fall out or anything like that. I’ve got nothing but love for Sailor, Scip and especially my boy Vasherized.
I’m not sure there’s going to be a huge “farewell” post because I think we’ll still have a presence here in some regard.
by Tipsy Gypsie on Dec 22, 2011 5:05 PM CST reply actions
I love this site and have become a junkie for Recruitocosm. I love all the recruiting news and other topics this site provides.
But with the changes, are we going to lose most of the inside scoop? Is most of the inside news going to go through pay sites now, and this site become second hand news?
by 4horns on Dec 22, 2011 5:35 PM CST reply actions
I feel like a junkie who was just given my first dose was free and now I have to pay a hundred bucks a year if I want to get high.
by I said I on Dec 22, 2011 5:35 PM CST reply actions
J.S. and Trips-e, best to both of you. I would not have typed so long, hard and late with such good information for as long as you two did without $$. You are also moving to a better format.
I’m thinking with three ‘reporting’ services that at least one is going to suffer by losing $ubscribers.
by REMAN on Dec 22, 2011 5:46 PM CST reply actions
Why would they not medical redshirt Cobbs when we lose 2 starting LB’s? Thats 2 years wasted on special teams.
by Augustus on Dec 22, 2011 5:49 PM CST reply actions
Sorry, just got off work. Nope, no fallout whatsoever. I told Sailor and most of the Barkers this was in the works and I’ve gotten nothing but well wishes. On the flipside, InsideTexas.com was gracious enough to grant my request to be able to continue to write for Fantake, so no, I’m not leaving BC or RC. I’ll be here as long as Sailor and Scipio allow me to write. And, I admit, writing for two sites may be a bit difficult to navigate, but I’m going to give it a try anyway.
With all of that out of the way, I’d like you guys to join us over at Recruitocosm tomorrow morning for a Q&A With The Cosmonauts. It should be fun.
by Jesus Shuttlesworth on Dec 22, 2011 5:57 PM CST reply actions
You’re giving us terrific info, well written, for free so nobody should have anything to say except thank you and congrats on anything you choose to do.
Certainly hope to see as much of you here as possible. But given the responsibilities of a paid gig versus a pro bono one, it’s understandable if your most frequent/choicest details are reserved for IT. If you guys are regular contributors that’s enough to make me consider paying.
by chairman on Dec 22, 2011 6:13 PM CST reply actions
Starting Ash versus Cal and seeing him fail might just be the juice coaching staff needs to make the starting job next year a Brewer vs McCoy debate.
by mjohn713 on Dec 22, 2011 6:21 PM CST reply actions
Thanks, Tipsy and Jesus, for consistently going the extra mile to bring us all of the great content. I might have gone insane from the stress of my job without the distraction of checking for updates from you guys. You definitely deserve the opportunity. Cancelling my orangebloods subscription has been a royal pain in the ass, but as soon as I can get that done, I’ll sign up for InsideTexas.
by burntorangejuice on Dec 22, 2011 6:41 PM CST reply actions
I will say that if I do go the paid route, which seems increasingly likely, it will definitely be Inside Texas. I guess we’ll see how bad the jones gets. Thanks again for all of the great free scoop.
by Felonious Monk on Dec 22, 2011 6:51 PM CST reply actions
Remember that these are bowl practices. I’m sure a lot of younger guys are getting extra reps, to see what we’re looking at for next year. Take Ash’s reps with a grain of salt, I’m sure McCoy will still start.
by cornbread n flapjack on Dec 22, 2011 7:47 PM CST reply actions
Scipio, Sailor and Vasherized were smart to bring you guys in and the Inside Texas guys are smart to add you to their staff. Good writers tend to get snatched up, just like BFLT to BON. Looks like I might have to subscribe to my first pay site. Congratulations fellows.
by Calihorn on Dec 22, 2011 8:41 PM CST reply actions
Jesus and Tipsy,
Gracias muchachos. Thank you for all your inside info, wit, and overall great writing. I am happy for both of you. After first reading Recruitocosm last year then both here and there this year, I hope we still get the Asset and Big Cigar info even if its through the secret email.
Wow, I can’t believe there will be no more Longhorn football after next week for 2011. I hope that our horns can take care of business next week and have momentum to build for the Spring and next Fall.
by UTRico on Dec 22, 2011 8:58 PM CST reply actions
“Starting Ash versus Cal and seeing him fail might just be the juice coaching staff needs to make the starting job next year a Brewer vs McCoy debate.”
It would take some stronger juice than that, and maybe a few narcotics, to arrive at that debate.
by Loftin's Bowtie on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 PM CST reply actions
Well, thanks for all the good reads. I don’t particularly like what this portends for me, Texan in Oregon, but I can’t begrudge you two your traitorous, capitalistic pursuits. If y’all want to go work for The Man, don’t let us middle class, God-fearing, Texas-loving, secret email hoping, Norman Rockwell-like Americans stand in your way. Best of luck to you both and I wish you much success in the future.
(Who am I kidding? This is the equivalent of the Mets’ 16th inning, Mike Renfro’s non-catch, Stockton’s shot, The Muff, and Bud’s moving all rolled into one.)
by Texan in Oregon on Dec 23, 2011 1:06 AM CST reply actions
Thanks Haysus! Much apreciate your efforts here.
by Mysterious Package on Dec 23, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions
Why are you people congratulating Shuttlesworth on selling out? I read his stuff religiously and love it but I’m not paying for anything I can get for free and this is exactly what Shuttlesworth was working against when he started. Now he has become what we all despise.
I’m suppose to believe we will continue to get these wonderful reports for free while people who are paying for it are getting the same info?
Sorry. I dont buy it. I won’t buy it. I’ll wait 12 hours and read it for free somewhere else.
Don’t hand me a plate of shit and tell me it’s a steak.
by Capt. Insano on Dec 25, 2011 4:36 PM CST reply actions

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