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		<title>By: ChrisApplewhite</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3770</link>
		<author>ChrisApplewhite</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3770</guid>
		<description>I got my exact numbers:

there were 39 pass attempts that i counted.

11 i couldn't tell what the coverage was, either the camera was too shallow or the pass was too quick for anyone to drop. 1 was a goalline pass. that leaves 27 passes:

man - 8
two - 3
three - 5
four - 11

Most of the cover three situations (at least 4) were because of a trips alignment or zone blitz. You can't really run cover 4 against trips, and 3 is an easy coverage to zone blitz from. That makes sense. It still gives cushion on the outside.

Most of the man came early. We only ran it twice in the 4th quarter.

Ditto the cover 2. We ran it once in the 4th.

I went back and looked at the trips formations vs. the balanced ones. Against trips, cover 4 doesn't really work as well and isn't as much of  an option. So obviously, you'd expect to see more of a difference:

Trips: 
Man - 4
Two - 1
Three - 3 (with 2 zone blitzes)
Four - 2

Balanced:
Man - 3
Two - 2
Three - 3 (2 zone blitzes)
Four - 9

Those are the 27 I could tell. 53% of the time, in a balance formation, we ran cover 4. In the fourth quarter, that number rose to 75%.

So what was the point of my post? That we give up too much cushion on the corner because our safeties play so aggressively. I made specific mention of the fourth quarter. We ran cover two ONCE, and still had our CBs like 9 years off.

We did run more variety than I caught at the game. I should not have said we don't run anything else. Hyperbole, thy name is ChrisApplewhite.

Overall, we ran hard corners, hypothetically, 3 times all game (not including run plays, of course), and once in the fourth. From watching our last three games, when we go cover two, we still have our corners play a little too deep.

Again, I stand by my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my exact numbers:</p>
<p>there were 39 pass attempts that i counted.</p>
<p>11 i couldn&#8217;t tell what the coverage was, either the camera was too shallow or the pass was too quick for anyone to drop. 1 was a goalline pass. that leaves 27 passes:</p>
<p>man - 8<br />
two - 3<br />
three - 5<br />
four - 11</p>
<p>Most of the cover three situations (at least 4) were because of a trips alignment or zone blitz. You can&#8217;t really run cover 4 against trips, and 3 is an easy coverage to zone blitz from. That makes sense. It still gives cushion on the outside.</p>
<p>Most of the man came early. We only ran it twice in the 4th quarter.</p>
<p>Ditto the cover 2. We ran it once in the 4th.</p>
<p>I went back and looked at the trips formations vs. the balanced ones. Against trips, cover 4 doesn&#8217;t really work as well and isn&#8217;t as much of  an option. So obviously, you&#8217;d expect to see more of a difference:</p>
<p>Trips:<br />
Man - 4<br />
Two - 1<br />
Three - 3 (with 2 zone blitzes)<br />
Four - 2</p>
<p>Balanced:<br />
Man - 3<br />
Two - 2<br />
Three - 3 (2 zone blitzes)<br />
Four - 9</p>
<p>Those are the 27 I could tell. 53% of the time, in a balance formation, we ran cover 4. In the fourth quarter, that number rose to 75%.</p>
<p>So what was the point of my post? That we give up too much cushion on the corner because our safeties play so aggressively. I made specific mention of the fourth quarter. We ran cover two ONCE, and still had our CBs like 9 years off.</p>
<p>We did run more variety than I caught at the game. I should not have said we don&#8217;t run anything else. Hyperbole, thy name is ChrisApplewhite.</p>
<p>Overall, we ran hard corners, hypothetically, 3 times all game (not including run plays, of course), and once in the fourth. From watching our last three games, when we go cover two, we still have our corners play a little too deep.</p>
<p>Again, I stand by my point.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisApplewhite</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3769</link>
		<author>ChrisApplewhite</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3769</guid>
		<description>I watched the OU game again. We ran man about a dozen times, cover 3 a few times, and cover 2 twice, including zero times on the final couple drives when OU was eating us up short and outside.

And even when we play cover 2, as evidenced by the last two games, we still give up too much cushion on the outside.

I stand by my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the OU game again. We ran man about a dozen times, cover 3 a few times, and cover 2 twice, including zero times on the final couple drives when OU was eating us up short and outside.</p>
<p>And even when we play cover 2, as evidenced by the last two games, we still give up too much cushion on the outside.</p>
<p>I stand by my point.</p>
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		<title>By: TLR</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3768</link>
		<author>TLR</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3768</guid>
		<description>NavyHorn bitchslapped ChrisApplewhite here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NavyHorn bitchslapped ChrisApplewhite here.</p>
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		<title>By: utstudboy</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3474</link>
		<author>utstudboy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3474</guid>
		<description>Matt - Thanks for the information.  I will be an expert in no time.

Bring on some more football discussion!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt - Thanks for the information.  I will be an expert in no time.</p>
<p>Bring on some more football discussion!!</p>
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		<title>By: longhornmatt</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3260</link>
		<author>longhornmatt</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3260</guid>
		<description>Tampa 2 is a cover 2 with the middle linebacker dropping deeper in the middle of the field to cover the seam route instead of the crossing pattern underneath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampa 2 is a cover 2 with the middle linebacker dropping deeper in the middle of the field to cover the seam route instead of the crossing pattern underneath.</p>
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		<title>By: SadFan</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3229</link>
		<author>SadFan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3229</guid>
		<description>Based on the OU game our rush D looked solid except on a few plays.  Darry is a joke and Bobino should be replaced by Kindle.  If our LBs could hit the gaps and shut down the run the safeties could loosen up giving the corners more support.  I think it all starts with the LBs.  The D line is solid especially with Orakpo back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the OU game our rush D looked solid except on a few plays.  Darry is a joke and Bobino should be replaced by Kindle.  If our LBs could hit the gaps and shut down the run the safeties could loosen up giving the corners more support.  I think it all starts with the LBs.  The D line is solid especially with Orakpo back.</p>
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		<title>By: utstudboy</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3228</link>
		<author>utstudboy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3228</guid>
		<description>What is Tampa 2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Tampa 2?</p>
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		<title>By: longhornmatt</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3227</link>
		<author>longhornmatt</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3227</guid>
		<description>Most people use cover 4 to describe when both safeties and both corners drop deep. Just like cover 2 means two deep defenders, cover 3 means 3, etc. 

The defense in this post is often described with something like cover 2 switch.  So the little spat here is probably due to terminology.

That said, we do seem to run this switch defense a whole lot, and we hardly ever run a cover 2.  You can tell because our corners are always turning and running with the WRs on deep patterns.  If it was cover 2, they would bump those guys and then let them go.

The only one of those deep balls where we might have been playing cover 2 was the last TD to Kelly.  Palmer and Jackson both stayed in the short zone until Jackson saw the ball going deep.  I don't know which one of them screwed up there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people use cover 4 to describe when both safeties and both corners drop deep. Just like cover 2 means two deep defenders, cover 3 means 3, etc. </p>
<p>The defense in this post is often described with something like cover 2 switch.  So the little spat here is probably due to terminology.</p>
<p>That said, we do seem to run this switch defense a whole lot, and we hardly ever run a cover 2.  You can tell because our corners are always turning and running with the WRs on deep patterns.  If it was cover 2, they would bump those guys and then let them go.</p>
<p>The only one of those deep balls where we might have been playing cover 2 was the last TD to Kelly.  Palmer and Jackson both stayed in the short zone until Jackson saw the ball going deep.  I don&#8217;t know which one of them screwed up there.</p>
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		<title>By: utstudboy</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3202</link>
		<author>utstudboy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3202</guid>
		<description>You say half a hundred I say fiddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say half a hundred I say fiddy</p>
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		<title>By: BevoDan</title>
		<link>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3191</link>
		<author>BevoDan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barkingcarnival.com/chrisapplewhite/the-problem-with-our-pass-scheme#comment-3191</guid>
		<description>Tech will hang half a hundred on us if we do not correct our schemes and play our younger LBs that have more speed than our older LBs.

Hook'em</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tech will hang half a hundred on us if we do not correct our schemes and play our younger LBs that have more speed than our older LBs.</p>
<p>Hook&#8217;em</p>
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