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The Tortilla Retort » Blog Archive » Where Do We Go From Here? — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:28:55 +0000

[…] the only playmaker we have at LB. It also requires elite DTs to run successfully. See link: http://www.barkingcarnival.com/dedfischer/mlb-play-vs-the-zone-read We only have one on our roster. He shouldn’t be on the bench this early in a close game unless […]

By: dedfischer

dedfischer — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:14:47 +0000

Zach Thomas ain’t that smart

By: dedfischer

dedfischer — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:37:37 +0000

Well, Chris if you were paying attention, you would have learned from Beergut that all good MLBs key on the nearest running back.

By: ChrisApplewhite

ChrisApplewhite — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:14:40 +0000

” Disagree. Good coaches watch to see if the MLB is keying the guards, and then call plays to screw up his read. It’s Football 101.”

Name one play that goes opposite a pulling guard that isn’t a reverse or something.

By: dedfischer

dedfischer — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:27:22 +0000

You're right. I forgot about the Fumblerooski. It's been around for decades.

By: Beergut

Beergut — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:16:48 +0000

Most coaches I know who utilize run-intensive offensive schemes, especially at the lower levels (HS, youth) false key.

Probably the last major college program to do it was Nebraska during Osborne’s tenure.

By: dedfischer

dedfischer — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:33:23 +0000

“Disagree. Good coaches watch to see if the MLB is keying the guards, and then call plays to screw up his read. It’s Football 101.”

I guess we’ll just agree to disagree. I don’t think pulling guards to false key is Football 101. In my mind, it’s more “desperation on offense to try to find something that will work against these fast motherfuckers 101″.

By: Beergut

Beergut — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:01:03 +0000

“A pulling guard is the most sure key there is in football. Guards don’t lie.”

Disagree. Good coaches watch to see if the MLB is keying the guards, and then call plays to screw up his read. It’s Football 101.

“Also, nobody really runs the trap anymore. DT technique has kind of nullified it for the most part, although overly aggressive teams still can get hit with them. ”

Disagree here, too. I’ve seen A&M, West Virginia, Illinois, and Florida all run trap plays. A&M’s bread-and-butter short yardage play is an inside trap to Jorvorskie.

You know the play against Army ‘06 where Jorvorskie was stopped for short yardage in the 4th quarter? It was b/c the backside guard completely whiffed on his trap block, letting the tackle come upfield and stuff the play.

By: ChrisApplewhite

ChrisApplewhite — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:21:21 +0000

A pulling guard is the most sure key there is in football. Guards don’t lie.

Also, nobody really runs the trap anymore. DT technique has kind of nullified it for the most part, although overly aggressive teams still can get hit with them. It’s just rare.

By: Beergut

Beergut — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:32:03 +0000

A MLB who follows pulling guards and pulling tackles will be cross-keyed and false-keyed out of plays. There is more to it than just following hats.

I’m not saying a 6 man front makes you more susceptible to a trap, the math alone would deny that, I’m just saying if you run a 42 front, the first thing that comes to mind is the trap.

If you’re running a 5 man front against a spread team, you obviously are trying to encourage them to run the ball. The problem is, Tech can’t stop the run, so I don’t know why the operate on this philosophy, unless they think they’ll get lucky and stop them eventually, and the offense will outscore them anyway?