Comments on: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly - Colorado http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:29:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: EyesOfTX http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21704 EyesOfTX Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:43:10 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21704 Gene Claude: no, I'm not interested. Bateshorn: what else is new? Gene Claude: no, I’m not interested.

Bateshorn: what else is new?

]]> By: Uncle Rico http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21691 Uncle Rico Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:43:11 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21691 i agree with ransom stoddard i agree with ransom stoddard

]]> By: BatesHorn http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21678 BatesHorn Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:47 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21678 At what point is somebody going to discuss the disaster that was John Chiles on Saturday night. At what point is somebody going to discuss the disaster that was John Chiles on Saturday night.

]]> By: Mysterious Package http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21676 Mysterious Package Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:18:50 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21676 Im not sure if he is allowed to or not. He checks down way to much and stays locked on Shipley for far too long at times when he is not open. That one play in the endzone he threw it to Shipley double covered and completely ignored Malcome Williams. He is efficient but come on, OU is going to jump every short passing route. We have to be able to stretch the field and I see no evidence to support that. It is now time to put to bed the "we are saving it for OU" chant. No one in football goes through half a season with a limited play book. Thats just an assine assumption. No team holds back certian looks offensive or defensive for 5 games then decides to hang it out there when they have never done it in a game. I believe we will see very little cluster flux and the same type of looks from our D(thats fine, the D is in good shape but why does Palmer continue to get minutes?) We have conservative play calling and I would be shocked if the dink and dunk along with no running game works against the trailer trash. If Stoops does not look at film and tell every DB and LB to jump the short screen passes and mini curls he has lost his mind. Im not sure if he is allowed to or not. He checks down way to much and stays locked on Shipley for far too long at times when he is not open. That one play in the endzone he threw it to Shipley double covered and completely ignored Malcome Williams. He is efficient but come on, OU is going to jump every short passing route. We have to be able to stretch the field and I see no evidence to support that.

It is now time to put to bed the “we are saving it for OU” chant. No one in football goes through half a season with a limited play book. Thats just an assine assumption. No team holds back certian looks offensive or defensive for 5 games then decides to hang it out there when they have never done it in a game. I believe we will see very little cluster flux and the same type of looks from our D(thats fine, the D is in good shape but why does Palmer continue to get minutes?) We have conservative play calling and I would be shocked if the dink and dunk along with no running game works against the trailer trash. If Stoops does not look at film and tell every DB and LB to jump the short screen passes and mini curls he has lost his mind.

]]> By: Bob in Houston http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21675 Bob in Houston Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:14:28 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21675 Dave Lapham has the advantage of actually sounding like Al DeRogatis. Maybe it's the lineman thing. Dave Lapham has the advantage of actually sounding like Al DeRogatis. Maybe it’s the lineman thing.

]]> By: huge http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21674 huge Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:08:07 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21674 davis called a good game against OU last year, so maybe there's hope? davis called a good game against OU last year, so maybe there’s hope?

]]> By: Gene Claude http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21673 Gene Claude Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:03:17 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21673 Here's the link: http://www.atomicteeth.com/gene-claude/the-fallacy-of-mizzous-defensive-failure/ Here’s the link:

http://www.atomicteeth.com/gene-claude/the-fallacy-of-mizzous-defensive-failure/

]]> By: Gene Claude http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21672 Gene Claude Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:02:24 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21672 What in the world is this comment: <blockquote>Watching the offenses in the Missouri/Nebraska game was like watching a pinball machine on steroids in fast motion.</blockquote> I expect the mainstream media to fail to consider any and all context in judging the Missouri defense and jump to simple pre-packaged conclusions. The Missouri offense is great! They are being held back by the defense! I expect better from you guys. And moreover, did you even watch the fucking game? Nebraska had 3 scoring drives...the first drive of the game, last drive of the 1st half and last drive of the game (which was against scrubs, after MU ran up the middle on 4th and 5 deep in NU territory). Nebraska's other drives looked like this: 9 plays, 29 yards, punt 6 plays, 25 yards, punt 3 plays, -4 yards, INT 8 plays, 26 yards, punt 10 plays, 34 yards, DOWNS 3 plays, 6 yards, FUMBLE 8 plays, 30 yards, punt I'll now make a provocative statement: <strong>The difference between performances thus far of the Missouri defense and the Texas defense is about 95% context.</strong> These defenses haven't performed much differently at all, except that (1) Missouri has played much more prolific opposing offenses--especially Illinois--that skews a couple stats remarkably and (2) Missouri's offense puts the defense on the field for MANY more plays (60) and time (6+ minute difference in TOP) than does Texas's. For example: Mizzou is 31st in the nation in yards/play at 4.8. Tied for 3rd in the conference. Texas is 23rd with 4.5 yards/play. Tiger opponents rank, in offensive yards/play: Nevada 14 with 6.6 yards/play, NU 19 with 6.5, Illinois 26 with 6.2, and Buffalo 55 with 5.5. UT opponents rank: Rice 43 with 5.8, FAU 60 with 5.4, Arkansas 60 with 5.4, and UTEP 75 with 5.2. In particular, the MU and UT defensive stats look nearly identical if you remove the one good team--Illinois--that either have played. I'm not saying that UT's defense hasn't performed very well, and honestly, it is quite likely better than Mizzou's. However, the popular perception, mindlessly regurgitated above, that Mizzou's defense is nonexistent is just false. If anyone is interested, I've written in more depth about this earlier in the season and will update for current stats today. I'm using (and was inspired by)HenryJames' "defensive stats that matter." In particular, using rate stats instead of gross stats helps control for offensive time of possession context. <a href="http://www.atomicteeth.com/gene-claude/the-fallacy-of-mizzous-defensive-failure/" rel="nofollow"> What in the world is this comment:

Watching the offenses in the Missouri/Nebraska game was like watching a pinball machine on steroids in fast motion.

I expect the mainstream media to fail to consider any and all context in judging the Missouri defense and jump to simple pre-packaged conclusions. The Missouri offense is great! They are being held back by the defense! I expect better from you guys. And moreover, did you even watch the fucking game?

Nebraska had 3 scoring drives…the first drive of the game, last drive of the 1st half and last drive of the game (which was against scrubs, after MU ran up the middle on 4th and 5 deep in NU territory).

Nebraska’s other drives looked like this:

9 plays, 29 yards, punt
6 plays, 25 yards, punt
3 plays, -4 yards, INT
8 plays, 26 yards, punt
10 plays, 34 yards, DOWNS
3 plays, 6 yards, FUMBLE
8 plays, 30 yards, punt

I’ll now make a provocative statement: The difference between performances thus far of the Missouri defense and the Texas defense is about 95% context. These defenses haven’t performed much differently at all, except that (1) Missouri has played much more prolific opposing offenses–especially Illinois–that skews a couple stats remarkably and (2) Missouri’s offense puts the defense on the field for MANY more plays (60) and time (6+ minute difference in TOP) than does Texas’s.

For example:

Mizzou is 31st in the nation in yards/play at 4.8. Tied for 3rd in the conference. Texas is 23rd with 4.5 yards/play.

Tiger opponents rank, in offensive yards/play: Nevada 14 with 6.6 yards/play, NU 19 with 6.5, Illinois 26 with 6.2, and Buffalo 55 with 5.5.

UT opponents rank: Rice 43 with 5.8, FAU 60 with 5.4, Arkansas 60 with 5.4, and UTEP 75 with 5.2.

In particular, the MU and UT defensive stats look nearly identical if you remove the one good team–Illinois–that either have played.

I’m not saying that UT’s defense hasn’t performed very well, and honestly, it is quite likely better than Mizzou’s. However, the popular perception, mindlessly regurgitated above, that Mizzou’s defense is nonexistent is just false.

If anyone is interested, I’ve written in more depth about this earlier in the season and will update for current stats today. I’m using (and was inspired by)HenryJames’ “defensive stats that matter.” In particular, using rate stats instead of gross stats helps control for offensive time of possession context.

]]> By: Nordberg http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21667 Nordberg Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:46:58 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21667 There's a lot more negativity here than I would have thought. I was pleased with the CU game, especially our defense (obviously). There’s a lot more negativity here than I would have thought. I was pleased with the CU game, especially our defense (obviously).

]]> By: 71grad http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21661 71grad Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:36:27 +0000 http://www.barkingcarnival.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-colorado#comment-21661 We used a very conservative running attack against Colorado. You also have to take into consideration the yardage lost on the sacks. Their d-line is the best unit on the CU team. Hypolite and Lucas will play in the NFL next year. WE did not throw throw long ball last night. There was no need to. I didn't see any totally unacceptable kick-off returns. Granted he was sleep walking through the kick after the first TD, but Smith is a very good return specialist. I would argue that most of your bad, wasn't bad. We used a very conservative running attack against Colorado. You also have to take into consideration the yardage lost on the sacks. Their d-line is the best unit on the CU team. Hypolite and Lucas will play in the NFL next year.

WE did not throw throw long ball last night. There was no need to.

I didn’t see any totally unacceptable kick-off returns. Granted he was sleep walking through the kick after the first TD, but Smith is a very good return specialist.
I would argue that most of your bad, wasn’t bad.

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