New York Times Texas Hit Piece Regarding McFarland

So, are we going to just sit back and take this shit?

Thanks for opening this back up for debate in the proper forum. Again Trips, I will ask you to post the truth that you claim to know.
I’m eagerly awaiting for you to again brush me off and your fellow Horn mates to make the pad retort about my uneducated trailer park livin, mullet sporting, el camino driving Okie ass and my meth lovin, toothless, slack-jawed, inbred brethren. Proceed with the rhetoric.

What the hell do you want him to tell you? Do you not understand the concept of protecting your source? The more information he gives, the easier it is to trace who the info came from. You’re asking him to possibly put someone’s job at risk just to satisfy your curiosity. Try understanding that, and if you are FINALLY able to, then shut the hell up and back the fuck off.

Alcohol was all you can drink, money was not an option. Girls were acting wild by taking off their tops, and pulling down their pants. Girls were also romancing each other.

If it’s any consolation, I don’t see the problem there. How do I get invited to that?

Fucking inbred idiot Sooners. Who do you really think is closer to this recruitment? Some two bit fucking sooner hack or people that follow this shit day in and day out? Myopic doesn’t even begin to describe you bunch of douche guzzling nimrods.

Of course he’s not going to give details about illegal inducements made to J-Mac and his family/friends when it was the school he roots for trying to provide them. That’s a no brainer. Funny as hell too.

Yep, I’m just a poor Texan looking to move to Norman for my big break.

sorry about the typos. getting used to a new laptop.

I’m disappointed that JM has chosen OU just like I was disappointed when AD chose OU, but at least I could understand why he did it. Why can’t a kid choose a school and be classy about it much like Peterson was. Badmouthing and making things up is no way to proceed. JM and his mother will get theirs and I can’t wait to see it unfold.

And for all you Sooner fans, I can’t wait to see if you are trolling this board after January 8th.

Trips, can you tell us about the Julio Jones recruitment?

i want your explanation. you believe the article is true. so back it up and explain how an OU recruit in dallas ends up at a UT party. Or agree the article is inaccurate.Is that too much to ask?

6xBig12Champ, even that article is inaccurate. it claims the rrs is played in Norman. FAIL.

yep, all of these quotes are actually just made up. lol! Trips has laid groundwork all week about J-Mac being illegally recruited yet it comes to light it was actually Texas doing the illegal recruiting. Self pwn3d Love it. Swuuueeettt

98,

cite it.

6x

Everyone knows ou is dirty, its a mentality they embrace with open arms which probably why they are on probation every 5 years, but even with all the cheating they do they cant beat Texas or make a good showing in a bowl game.

sooner518, my guess to your last question would writer of that article author Evan Thyer did not do his due diligence, see he is an ou homer who runs an ou blog, that says everything right there, completely biased reporting

Maybe I missed it, but where in that article does it claim that JM was being illegally recruited by Texas? The claim is that some unidentified “friend” of JM’s was offered an interest-free loan if he could JM to sign with Texas, and that said offer came from someone who was not officially connected with the UT program. It’s a bit of a stretch to say JM himself was being illegally recruited by Texas.

Regardless, the whole NYT blog takes bush-league “journalism” to a whole new level. Like, not even Barking Carnival caliber, which is saying something. (No offense to BC, but they know where they stand.)

6x cite what? the article clearly says
” When the OU Sooners play football against longtime rival, the University of Texas, Norman schools are almost always closed on Friday (you read that right) and the town packs the stadium.”
Reading Comprehension does not seem to be of importance at OU.

98, I don’t think that says what you think it says.

I don’t think it says much of anything, but it sure isn’t saying the RRS is in Norman. It’s just gibberish.

If a Texas booster offered anything to MacFarland, I expect Bob Stoops to turn the info into the NCAA Compliance Monitoring group. Then an investigation could be opened.

Trips, the sooners do not have powers of deductive reasoning. they just come here, poop all over the board and run away. just shut this post down and let us wait for belmont’s response(if and when they do) and then open the topic up for discussion.

smax - so you are implying that the writer completely made up the quote, correct? let’s call a spade a spade here. I’m only asking about one specific part of the story. I don’t care about the rest of the story. Either he misquoted her, completely made it up, or his quote in this instance is accurate.

Quoting 98: “i know there are few places better to live than Austin and Norman is definitely one of them”
- I agree.

98,

I haven’t ran, I’m still here waiting for Trips to let the cat out of the bag. I hope this intriguing Belmont character has the goods, can’t wait. Good night fellas, hugs and kisses…

6x

I can’t wait for January 8th, 2009.

518, I just read the majority of his articles posted on that blog and based on that I would say he made it up. The guys has no objectivity what so ever and seems to be on a mission to slander Texas at any chance he gets.

I also find it peculiar that word coming out of Lufkin from his current coaching staff does not jive with this article. sorry but everything just does not add up

Since the whole “living in Norman” thing was brought up multiple times I may as well contribute to this:

The Money Magazine list is total bullshit. I am currently sitting in the guest room at my parent’s house in Plymouth, MN. If you check the list, Plymouth is the “#1 city in America”. I lived in the #7 city in America, Round Rock, for eight years. If sterile, carbon copy, soulless suburbs give you wood, use this list of America’s 100 Best Cities as though it were your housing bible. If not, take my word that anyone with a pulse residing in these cities was shocked they were on this list.

Should the list be for the largest number of chain restaurants per capita, cities with recently constructed strip malls containing Kohls and Old Navys, cities with hyperactive PTAs at every school, or even cities where the “banned book list” was the highest at public schools; every one of the cities on the Money Magazine list would expect to be on there. None of those are things I admire, but maybe the folks at Money Magazine do.

I have been here for about 4 days and am already wondering why the hell anyone would want to live here. Downtown Minneapolis? I could see that, the “soul of the city” reminds me a bit of Austin’s. But Plymouth? It leaves you with with a sterile and completely uninteresting feeling in your mouth.

Norman, from the few times I have been there, is no different.

I’m yearning to get back to Austin, but need to stop by Phoenix for a few days first.

6x, Ponderos, and 518,

Will you please promise all of us that you will drop by this site on January 9th? You guys are miracles to us all.

“one of the largest and most reputable paper in the US comes out”

I know. Please listen to what I’m saying.

Let’s talk predictability.

Team A & Team B compete for top Recruit X.

Team B loses Recruit X to Team A.

Fans of Team B accuse Team A of cheating, and subsequently create and stir up rumors of impropriety and sordid dealings between Team A & Recruit X and his family. No substance or facts of any sort provided in these allegations. All hearsay, undocumented. Primary sources of rumors from fan-base of Team B come from anonymous bloggers.

Indeed, exulT. Talk about PREDICTABLE.

45-35 KingJackass. Please come back on January 9th, 2009.

the thing is, KingDavid, you have indeed been caught for paying off players and have been penalized SIX times for major NCAA infractions. So if Team B is OU, then your scenario makes sense. But if UT is team A, then there is a precedent towards suspicion.

It’s good to know, amidst all this lively banter, that we all can join together and at least agree on one thing:

Jarmarkus McFarland will be a Sooner.

The top defensive recruit in the State of Texas, a nationally ranked 5 star recruit according to every recruiting publication, and probably the number 1 defensive tackle recruit in the nation, has selected Oklahoma over Texas and will play for OU.

And we also agree that Texas beat OU 45-35 on a neutral field and yet OU STILL won the Big XII (Texas finishing in second place, as usual) and OU is playing in the national championship, not Texas.

Let’s focus on the things where we can all agree.

See you on the 9th fo’ sho’.

Fortunately, Texas is not faced with the difficult choice between playing dirty to win or staying clean and losing.

You see, we’re clean, and we win, and OU is still our bitch.

Sorry gotta go off to my trailer home

and if I remember to come back here on January 9, I guess I will. I’m not predicting a blowout OU win. We certainly have a decent shot and if we play up to our potential, we have a good shot.

and yes, we won the Big 12 (our 6th for those keeping score at home) on a technicality this year. Of course, had UT gone to the Big CCG, they would have won the conference on a technicality over Tech. And you people wouldnt give a crap about winning on a technicality, just as we dont.

KingDavid
December 26, 2008 at 7:08 am
Groundhog, the real question is this: after we demolish Florida (we’ll be up by three TD’s at the half), how shiny can you make my scrotum when you polish my balls?

Black, is de widdle biddy baby wonghorns wanty go backy to de sowdwet confwence?

Wow dude. Your hatred is palpable, and you’re scaring me. Seriously, you’re really creepy. Time to step back from the keyboard and take a little break, KD.

This is funny. Trips all but predicted that something like this would happen. He said that we called a family on dirty recruiting. What did we think would happen?

OU is still just off of probation for the last major recruiting scandal. They skated on a payola scheme involving every level of the administration. Well, it’s all still happening. Colorado wrote the blueprint. Oklahoma followed it to the letter. To me, the surprising thing is that any Sooner with a degree would want to be anywhere near this story. Yet, here there all are, gleefully rubbing our noses in it.

Save the NYT article. You’ll see another one next year. I don’t think we’ve heard the last of this one, though. If OU’s behavior doesn’t change, they’re on notice that they are going down.

The only “comical hit piece” that has been written lately has been by “Trips Right”. At least the NYT author had the balls to put his name on his article. Trips Right, on the other hand, is an anonymous pussy hiding behind his computer screen. See you in Miami. Oh wait…

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=24291

SoonerVictory: Tim, I’m sure you have heard about the commitment of Jamarcus MacFarland to OU, have you been able to read the NY Times article that broke the story? There were some interesting items in that story that shine the University of Texas and others in a pretty unfavorable light. Being an “inside” guy how true to form does that article sound?

SportsNation Tim Griffin: (11:25 AM ET ) SV: Yes, I did read Thayer Evans’ riveting account of McFarland’s recruiting. But let’s not be hasty about putting Texas or any other school in an unfavorable light. The story didn’t link specific schools with the recruiting improprities that were detailed.

But it doesn’t surprise me. The story is probably pretty accurate.

And I really liked reading about how OU assistant Jackie Shipp started screaming when he heard McFarland would be coming to his school. I bet that was his best Christmas present, don’t you?

Lets just check out the gist of Tripp’s journalistic rebuttal:

“blah, blah, blah….comical hit piece…..blah, blah, blah….assinine things…..blah, blah, blah….douchebag….blah, blah, blah…Oklahoma hack and homer….mullet….blah blah blah….jorts”

Looks like somebody ended up on Santa’s naughty list this year and got a big, fat piece of coal rammed up his hiney on Christmas day.

okiedomer, why would OU let a minor they were responsible for, roam free during probably the most alcohol filled time of the year? it seems very negligent on their part, no?

98 - this may come as a surprise to you, but 18yo kids like to party - and i don’t think having a guest at the game = we’re your babysitter all weekend

like i said, the kid wrote this himself for a class - i seriously doubt he thought anyone would read this besides his english teacher - if you want to think the kid lied to his english teacher back whenever this paper was written just to make texass look bad, by all means, go right ahead - just realize that it’s absurd

Sooners on a UT fan website - you guys must be guilty of something or you would not be over here so much.

So… a guy from “Barking Carnival” is criticizing what was written in the New York Times…….. Hmmmm

I can’t believe it.

The temerity of BarkingCarnival!

As Bill Clinton might say, “I feel your pain” horn fans. You lose a top recruit, the NYT makes your recruitment process look inept at best, and classless, at worst, and the coup de gras comes when your “insider” writes what is essentially a junior high level rebuttal that does little more than validate the impression the Times article leaves about UT and it’s football “program”.

Grounfhog - 45-35 and we’re still Big12 Champs and playing for the National Championship. The lesson here for Sooners is that we don’t HAVE to win the RRS to be Conference Champs or play for the NC. LOL.

if you’re a diehard sooner and you spend all your time reading a pro-horns blog and then troll endlessly for arguments, are you:

a) one of those jerks who just likes to piss on other people’s birthday parties;

b) mentally deficient and can’t tell the difference between a ut blog and an ou blog;

c) you are a sad little man with no friends and even less of a social life?

just wonderin’.

I think they’ll take D, all of the above.

You nailed it on the head Jeff–every university has girls romancing each other, and every university CHEATS. I do believe Texas doesn’t get as punished as often–they collectively have the richest donors on the planet! Do you think in these days and times that Oklahoma State would ever have allegations over their recruiting? Remember people, we’re talking about Stillwater. There’s no way–T. Boone Pickens would take care of the problem so fast it would quickly become a grease spot! The guy is a freakin’ donor and look at all the TV time he gets–A DONOR!!! How shady is that?! Norman is the Bahamas compared to Stillwater…Anyway, I digress. My point is that Mack Brown and Pete Carrol may appear squeaky clean, but the NYT article points out what every reasonable person already knows. Those guys lie and cheat with the best of them–they just have a bigger broom to catch everything that goes under the rug.

Hear hear, Jeff.

“…or as his first move in going somewhere where women do, in fact, romance each other, which is as God intended.”

This man speaks great amounts of truth.

SausageFest, I’m not a fan of either school–I just call it like it is. I have good friends that attended UT while VY was there, and every player from VY to CB were driving souped-up Escalades. I’m lumping Texas in with every university, not just OU. You’d definitely have to be a homer and a fool to believe that all players choose Texas because it is, well, Texas. Last time I checked, Stoops owns Mack on all accounts, so if these kids are choosing to play between the two on merit alone, why in the world wouldn’t you go to a much more successful program in OU? I’ve looked up the numbers for both schools, and OU has a pretty impressive advantage in most statistics. I guess you’re right–Texas is GREAT at not getting caught. They have to be forking up insurmountable wads of cash to get a kid to play for a far inferior football program!

Sorry to harp on this party thing and credibility and all, but if the party was Friday night and Lufkin played New Caney that night in Lufkin, game started at 7:30, Lufkin won 61-0, kid had to go through post-game stuff, and it is over 180 miles to Dallas from Lufkin what time did he and his Mom get to this party and how the hell did they find it at that time in the morning? Lord knows I couldn’t find shit in college at that time in the morning, but that might be more a indictment of me.

More satire!

You’re probably the wrong guy to help Jackie Shipp edit his Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Shipp

It’s a language adventure!

Sweet chattel tag.

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/25/a-new-shirt-for-a-new-sooner/

Scroll down the COMMENTS (at end of article) to #4 and beyond.

Here is the text:

On the McFarland commit … (updated after talking to Lufkin sources) Reply

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Updated 8:25 p.m.: As you all know, I’ve been fortunate to gain a couple sources in Lufkin that are extremely close to this recruitment, and I just talked to them about the NY Times story.
A couple very key notes:

1. This is pretty much common knowledge, but it’s important to note the party in Dallas that was alluded to in the story was obviously not a party in which the Texas program was affiliated in any way. The game was in Dallas and OU was the home team, so McFarland was a guest of OU’s (neither team could actually talk to him). My sources weren’t 100 percent positive but it was their understanding that it was McFarland’s mother that took him to the game. As for the Texas team, the entire team left the stadium shortly after the game was over on chartered buses to make their way to the airport and back to Austin.

2. In talking to my sources, they said the talk of Mack comparing houses to those of other coaches was absurd. Anyone that has ever been around Mack knows that’s not something that he would say, and my source said that topic had never been mentioned by anybody before it showed up in the story. It’s just not plausible, and that comes from a person that’s known Mack directly for years and I believe has talked to him about the NY Times story.

3. There’s a part in the story where McFarland’s mom alleges that she called Mac McWhorter and he refused to put her in touch with Mack Brown. According to my sources, McFarland’s mother had Mack’s cell phone number and called him regularly throughout the course of last summer. And my source said to his knowledge, she very rarely even called McWhorter.

4. There were comments in the story from McFarland’s mother about Texas’ effort, and them going by the school instead of the home, no calls, etc. Again, my sources in Lufkin all indicated that the Texas coaches tried everything they could to do a visit at the family’s residence, but McFarland’s mother wouldn’t let them in.

Just a few notes that are worth putting out there.

******

6:55 p.m. update - Congratulations to Jamarkus for ending what has obviously been a stressful recruitment and congratulations to OU for gaining a big commitment.

I’m not going to get into specifics, but as for the NY Times article, I can tell you that people at Texas would dispute an awful lot of that information, and from various sources that I’ve talked to both in Lufkin and elsewhere, there is quite a bit of erroneous information in that report.

As always, I can promise you that there are two sides to the story.

— Ken Kemp

SausageFest,

You can say what you want about trends as of late, but recruits know they can win Big 12 Championships and go to BCS games in a Sooner uniform. They also understand they can beat up the Clemsons and Iowas of the world in worthless bowl games wearing the burnt orange–hey, whatever does it for you man, it’s not for me to judge. Being an outsider, I am also impressed with Texas’ overall advantage in the RRR–the problem is that’s all Texas hangs on to, including this year. All I hear about is 45-35–well, there is more than 1 game in a season, and OU has done a better job of taking care of business week in and week out. Mack has 1 Big 12 Championship–ONE!!! Considering Texas has the best athletes and is the best program in the history of college football, they don’t have much to show for it. Do you think maybe, JUST MAYBE, recruits are starting to realize they have a better chance of winning at OU? JUST MAYBE they look at the season as a whole instead of one game? JUST MAYBE the luster of 1 Big 12 Championship and plethora of Alamo Bowl trophies is starting to dissipate? After all, if you’re comparing traditions and winning of the two programs overall, UT is just a pimple. Just wanted to share what people outside of Texas think…

ulose, it would seem that if you are comparing programs that are trending you are backing the wrong horse based upon bowl results and head to heads. OU is 1-4 in their last five bowls games and that includes two embarrassing loses to WVU and Boise. UT is 4-1 in their last five bowls, won 4 straight, never played Clemson, and only was in one Alamo Bowl (they did play and win in back to back Rose Bowls). Texas in that time is 3-2 versus OU and have won or tied for the South 2 of the 5 years. If you truly do follow football you want make comments such as Texas having the best athletes. According to various sources this year OU had among the nation and the conferences top-rated quarterback, one of the best running backs, the best tight end, one of the best receivers, 2-3 of the best offensive linemen and that is just on the offensive side of the ball. Somehow, Mack and his staff stumbled and bumbled their was past OU with from what I can gather is Colt, Orakpo, and 20 other guys. Oh, and before you ask about Lubbock I think you will find that those same experts who identified all that talent on the OU roster as believe Tech has more talent on their roster.

Scholes, you know I love you man, and OU sucks, etc.–but UT played Iowa in the Alamo after the 2006 season.

JustAGuy,

That was a generalization–Clemsons and Iowas “of the world”. I don’t know who all Texas has played in their bowl games, I just know they hang their hat on beating up teams of that caliber. They’re 2-0 in the BCS, and that’s great, but OU was at one point too. OU could be 2-58 in the BCS, and at the end of the day both programs have two BCS trophies. As a college football fan, I’d rather my team get there than not…I know one thing that guarantees a shot at a BCS trophy: WINNING BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIPS!

Mack–one Big 12 Championship
Stoops–six Big 12 Championships

Even when OU choked away the season in 2001 after beating Texas, UT still couldn’t win a Big 12 Championship. But winning the Holiday Bowl made everything better, so that’s good.

Texas choked away the season in 2006 when they beat OU, but OU won the Big 12 Championship. I guess that season doesn’t count since they lost in the BCS…Texas did beat Iowa though–way to go team!! Since we can’t win the conference, let’s just pad our regular bowl game stats:

Mack: 5-3 in non-BCS bowls
Stoops: 2-1 in non-BCS bowls

Wouldn’t you rather make it to the Elite 8 or Final 4 than the Sweet 16?

By the way, that’s a slap in the face of Texas by saying they have Colt, Orakpo, and 20 other guys. They’re roster is riddled with talent–you should be ashamed of yourself. However, you’re right about recent trends though–Texas has a good program and their backyard is the most fertile recruiting ground in America. They’ve definitely had a good run lately, but Mack should have more than 1 Big 12 title. Maybe Texas could’ve beat WVU and Boise easily, but once they realize the season is bigger than one game, they’ll have the shot to find out consistently.

Say all you want, but I’m just a HUGE college football fan who keeps up with recruiting. Once I delved further into the JM story, it disappointed me that this Trips person made such lofty accusations without presenting any evidence. Anyone can do that…

Besides, maybe JM didn’t commit to Texas because he didn’t like what Mack had in his IPOD. I’m sure he went back to Merle Haggard once VY left…

i hope mack puts the issue on the back burner till the end of the fiesta bowl and goes balls to the wall right after; refuting these allegations. Sadly though, the old saying holds “never wrestle with a pig,you both get dragged through filth and the pig enjoys it.”
for all the OU grads, OU is the pig in the quote above.

I am a conference championships fan. I celebrate the entire catalog.

It’s funny how SausageFest is the quickest to point out the English and grammar pratfalls of others, but he can’t take it when he violates the rules of English 101 and is called out on it. Since YOU’RE going to continue to use ZeroU (which by the way is HILARIOUS), I guess we should add UTard to the lexicon for those have a degree from Austin but can’t get down the concept of adding two words together by using an apostrophe. Or do you even have a degree? If YOU’RE going to act intelligent when pointing the finger, then back it up without inserting sausage in mouth.

Stick to football–you seem decent at that.

And by the way, the Big 12 Championship is the only game on every year, on that night, at that time, for all to see. YOU’RE a fool if you don’t think recruits are watching it–and they’ve only seen Texas hoist the trophy once under Mack.

You guys need to at least slow it down.

It’s the end of the year and the copy paper supply at the recruiting office is running low.

ulose,

Interesting in that you accuse Texas of “hanging their hats” on beat the average joe’s of college football and posture that Texas is on a program on the decline and yet can’t point to any indicator that much has changed in the Big 12 between Texas and OU.

Bob Stoopes has indeed won or shared 6 Big 12 South titles . Interestingly, if you split his time in Norman into two 5-year periods you find that in conference play the Sooners have been very consistent. In fact the only two areas in which OU has fallen off in the last five years is their record in bowls (1-3 compared ot 4-1) and their record versus UT (2-3 versus 4-1). Additionally, Stoopes won his only title in 2000.

I would agree the biggest blight on Brown’s time in Austin is the number of conference title. While Stoops 5-1 in conference championship games, Mack is 1-2. Mack has also has opportunities in two of the last three years to win the South title outright and didn’t close the deal. Correct me if I a wrong, but I don’t think any of that was my point of contention with you.

That was your position that Texas is a program that is started to decline, basis it success on beating average joe programs, and is starting to lose its edge in recruiting. Hmm…I don’t think you have actually addressed any of those points directly so I will give you a little fodder to work with for rebuttal.

Between 1999-2003 Texas was 50-15 overall (.7692), won no conference titles, was 2-3 in bowls, had no BCS bowl appearances, won no national titles, and was 1-4 versus OU.

Between 2004-2008 Texas was 54-8 overall (.8710), won 1 conference title, was 4-0 in bowls, had 3 BCS bowl appearances, won 1 national title, had signature wins versus Ohio State in Columbus (at night), versus Michigan in the Rose Bowl, beat a USC squad you might be familiar with for the national title, and was 3-2 versus OU. Hmmmm…not exactly the fall of the Longhorn empire.

Ah, yes, national perception. You made some inference about how Texas was perceived by the nation right? In the first five years Texas was never selected to a BCS bowl and only finished in the top 10 twice (More about the significance of the invite in a minute.). In the last five years Texas has been invited to two BCS bowls, with a victory over Ohio State ( I think they might have a bit of name recognition.) would finish the top 10 for the fourth time, and in the top 5 for the third time in five years.

On the invitation to the BCS bowl game. You took the position that the rest of the country does not view Texas in the same light as those of us in the great state of Texas, but all you can offer to validate your point is the rant about championships. A valid point, but in this case about as accurate as writing Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo on a geometry test when you are asked to find that area of a given shape. The only way Texas could be invited to those two bowls was to be ranked high enough in the BCS standings to be invited and the only way for Texas to be ranked high enough is through the Horns be ranked high up in the polls and the computer models. Now, I am not completely sure, but I don’t think a poll of only Texas voters is included in the BCS nor does any Texan have a computer model that is included in the process. That would only mean that individuals outside the state of Texas would have had to hold the program in high enough regard for Texas to be ranked high enough to be invited (Please keep in focus that the issue is not whether it is better to have won the right versus be invited, but your position that Texas is not held in regard outside the state.), but that would seem to fly in the face of you statement that Texas is not held in regard outside the state. Curious?

In regards to Texas losing talent to OU or where ever, there is nothing new to Texas high school football players going to OU. It is safe to say this have gone on 50+ years and will continue regardless of who is the coach at either school.

The bigger issue here is that Texas is losing its grip on instate talent which isn’t just the case if you truly do follow recruiting. Mack is in position to land his third straight highly regarded class. It doesn’t have McFarland, but I am sure he and his staff with make do with it.

As far as the final game of the season for each program over the past five years? Well, again, I don’t think you would find many if any Horn fans who wouldn’t say they are happy playing in San Diego or San Antonio versus a BCS bowl, but I don’t think Mack and his staff do either which is why changes and progress has indeed been made. Interestingly, I can’t think of any Sooner that I know that will tell you they are happy with the last 4 BCS bowl losses.

JustAGuy,

Your diatribe is very intriguing and pretty accurate, and your points are well thought-out and executed. Well done sir. If OU and Texas were stocks, it would probably be in your best interest to put your money in Texas due to recent trends–I won’t lie. That’s the conservative approach. And I’m sure Sooner fans aren’t happy with the outcome of the last 4 BCS games–as a football fan, I would want my team to win ANY game, no matter who or when they play. However, if losing the Big 12 Championship increases your stock but winning it doesn’t, then how backward is the world we live in? Everyone in the world knows who’s beat OU in the last 4 BCS games, but no one outside of Texas can tell you who the Longhorns have beat in their last 2 bowl games. One of the horn faithful couldn’t even remember when you beat Iowa, and that was 2 years ago! Out of sight, out of mind. Everyone remembers that OU lost to WVU last year, but no one remembers that Florida lost to a Michigan team who got beat by Appalachian St! The BCS gets you national pub, regardless of the outcome, and that never hurts in recruiting. Sure OU’s BCS record isn’t great, but recruits know they can get there by going to OU–don’t quote me on this, but I believe Stoops has been there more than any coach. Pete Carrol might be above him, but it’s close. If that’s bad, then so be it–put all your chips in Texas. But OU’s always there–as an investor, I’ll take my chances.

And I don’t believe UT isn’t held in high regard outside of Texas, just that OU is held higher.

JustAGuy - you are right I bought all those CMO’s and got AF’ed. I enjoy that kind of thing

Or using your own name to express childish and stupid thoughts like mine

6, no they’re not. They out-right lied about the drug party. Now we’re supposed to give them the benefit of the doubt and believe the rest.

You seem like an intelligent fellow, I mean you can match a subject and a predicate. How in the hell can any reasonable person take these people seriously from this point forward.

As for the rest of my story, what do you want, my first born? I told you all that my source will allow at this point in time. I’m not going to burn that bridge to satisfy anonymous internet posters, especially when the McFarlands are doing a bang up job of discrediting themselves and their fans.

ulose, you claim to not have a dog in this fight, yet you come on a longhorn board and type crap like “Utards”. seems kind of juvenile doesn’t it.

GD,

I have not seen said interview, can you post a link?

6x

why the fuck would zeroU bother you if you are not an OU fan?