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I swear to God in heaven above, the next time I hear some talking (pin)head on television utter the phrase “style points” in the context of analysis of college football, I am going to throw my poor cat through the TV screen. I’ve been wanting to get rid of that useless cat anyway, so at least her passing would serve a fine and noble purpose.
Had you told me at the first of November that the Texas Longhorns would be sitting in front of their televisions next Saturday, hoping that a team they led 35-0 in the 2nd quarter on the way to a first class ass-whipping would somehow defeat a team they whipped 45-35 on a neutral field so the Longhorns could end up in the national championship game without even playing for the conference championship, I’d have called you crazy. Wait. No I wouldn’t have. Because this is, after all, the Big 12 Conference, where holding is not a penalty, where the head linesman in a nationally televised football game on Thanksgiving day systematically spotted the ball back a yard or two from where it should have been placed on every single play he had the responsibility to spot, and where the championship of the Big 12 South Division is decided by computer geeks, the votes of coaches from other conferences around the country and voters in the Harris poll who seldom actually watch college football games.
Whew. Let me catch my breath after that run-on sentence.
Ok, I’m back. Where was I? Oh, yeah, I f***ing HATE the f***ing tools who f***ing run the f***ing Big 12 Football conference. If I ever have the displeasure of actually meeting one of them, I plan to knee the sorry sonofabitch in the nuts. Because that’s what they all will deserve if Texas gets left out of the Big 12 Championship game. This abortion of a system and set of game officials are their doing and no one else’s.
Longhorn fans who direct their anger at Oklahoma, or Bob Stoops, or anyone else outside of the oily-haired creeps who run this conference are misdirecting their anger and hatred. Oklahoma will go to the Big 12 Championship game, where they will destroy Missouri, and the national championship game, where they will be shredded by Florida and suffer 14 holding penalties called by officials who have not been directed by their conference masters to ignore the infraction, because that is the way the Big 12 system works. Simple as that.
Those of you who like to argue against the implementation of a playoff system with the idiotic claim that “the regular season IS the playoffs” look pretty silly today as we all get to see that winning on the field of play in the regular season really doesn’t count for much in the Big 12 football conference. I know you’ll all find some other nonsensical rationalization to turn to now that this one has been rendered utterly and completely laughable, but the rest of us understand how silly the Big 12 has made you look, and won’t soon forget.
Because at the end of the day in the Big 12, we now understand that results on the field of play don’t matter. Oklahoma is going to play for the championship because it scored more ”style points” by running up the scores on Texas Tech and OSU than Texas scored in calling off the dogs on the hapless Aggies. Oklahoma is going to play for the championship because Bob Stoops doesn’t give two shits about showing “class” on the field of play and because he understands that, despite those memos Mack Brown says he gets from the oily-haired mutts who run the conference suggesting they show good sportsmanship with under-talented opponents, the suits in charge don’t give two shits about it either.
Oklahoma, losers by 45-35 to Texas but the winner in November “style points”, will play poor Missouri next week, and the folks who run this turd of a conference are happy. That’s all you need to know about the Big 12.
Ok, that takes care of the UGLY for this week of college football, so let’s go to the GOOD and the BAD.
First, the BAD:
The Texas Running Game - I just want to ditto the comments by Chris Applewhite and Scipio Tex about the laughably disjointed, nonsensical nature of the Texas rushing “scheme”. It’s just a bad joke, and a damn shame our coaches insist on miring these highly-talented linemen and backs in this silly, sideways, impossible reach-blocking set of plays.
The Head Linesman - For this game, this guy decided to spot the ball at the point where the runner’s knee hit the turf, rather than where the ball was at the point where the runner’s knee hit the turf. This resulted in the ball being spotted a yard, sometimes as much as two yards, behind where it should have been spotted on every play that went to his side of the field. That such rank incompetence is allowed to exist with impunity at the collegiate level is a travesty, and just another black mark in a season filled with black marks created by officials on the Big 12 conference.
The Texas Offensive Game Plan - If Mike Sherman could have dictated our game plan, it would have looked a lot like the one Greg Davis created. It was the 2nd quarter before we threw the ball more than 10-12 yards downfield. We have no running play in our entire scheme that allows our offensive linemen to drive block less talented individuals down the field, something we should have been able to do all night long against the worst defense in the conference. Instead, we played this finesse, sideways ground game and dink and dunk air attack in what looked for all the world as if our coaches were trying to keep the score down from the opening kickoff until the end. It’s very frustrating to watch, but at the end of the day, our team is just so much more talented than A&M’s that the players were still able to run up a respectable score. Not enough “style points” to get to any game that’s meaningful, of course, but enough to the let the Aggies know they’d been whipped.
Now, the GOOD:
Texas 49, A&M 9 - Despite the complaints and incompetent officiating of the game, the final score amounted to the second biggest margin of victory in the rivalry. It’s a good Thanksgiving anytime Texas beats A&M.
Notre Dame lost - You gotta love the Irish being relegated to yet another losing season. It’s always a good Saturday when Notre Dame goes down to defeat.
The Texas Defense - This was just a wonderful, thoroughly dominating performance by the Longhorn defense. The Ags had two big plays in the game that accounted for half their offensive output. Otherwise, they were smothered all night long. Stephen McGee was so frustrated he made a complete ass of himself on national television as his swan song to college football. You have to love that.
Colt McCoy - Colt should win the Heisman Trophy, but won’t because Sam Bradford’s coach understands the critical nature of style points on national television. Colt has been the best player in the nation from the first game until the last, but Bradford’s late-season surge will deny him the game’s ultimate award. No Texas QB has ever played the game at a higher level than Colt has played it this year. He’s just been a joy to watch.
Other Offensive Standouts - Brandon Collins is going to be a stud. Hell, he already is. Cosby and Shipley were typically brilliant. Cody Johnson had a nice fourth quarter, but hell, any of the tailbacks would have had a nice fourth quarter against that exhausted Aggie defense. Fozzy had a couple of outstanding blitz pickups in the first half.
Defensive Standouts - Sergio Kindle was brilliant in this game, and likely enhanced his draft position with three TFLs and a sack. Brian Orakpo matched Kindle’s TFL total and showed he was back to All-American form after his injury. Earl Thomas also played a whale of a game. This defense is likely the best in the conference at this point, and one of the very best in the country. Too bad it won’t get to showcase itself in a game that matters in January.
Offensive Player of the Game - Colt McCoy for the umpteenth time.
Defensive Player of the Game - Sergio.
This team has been a season-long pleasure to observe. It has played at a level no rational person really believed was possible at the start of the year, stormed through the toughest schedule any Texas team has ever faced, and spent the last 3/4ths of the season ranked in the national Top 5. The only thing that stands between this Texas team and an undefeated season was a two quarter letdown in Lubbock. To go through this particular 12 game regular season with only one half of poor play is a real tribute to the players and the coaches.
But these players and coaches can’t control the irrationality of the system for determining a national champion that the BCS hath wrought, nor can they control the joke of a system for determining a conference champion that the Big 12 oily-heads have created.
Regardless of how things play out from here, all of us Orangebloods have had the privilege this season of rooting for one of the great Texas football teams of all-time. That’s something I hope we all never lose sight of, regardless of where this great team and coaching staff end up in January.
Thanks for the memories, guys.
Hook ‘em!!!
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Tim said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:03 am
Late! ofTexas, the game was Thursday.
EyesOfTX said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Sorry, I don’t work on your preferred schedule, Timmy.
Tim said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:10 am
No problemo, just wanted to read yesterday and felt majorly burned by this. Anywho, the running game mostly blows because they play Chris O and Foz when healthy McGee and CJ are the best Rbs> Fozz would be if he had speed.
Haha, just kidding. Of course the above paragraph would be proof of 100% cockgobbling on my part, so I couldn’t seriously believe that. Certainly not after Scipio’s article. It’s like I live in a different universe, right? Well, I have to go wash my unicorn bye!
uthookem said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Great article, and I share your sentiments about this team. Regardless of the outcome (ie, playing someone in the Fiesta while OU gets shellacked by UF/Bama), this teem has FAR EXCEEDED my expectations, and has set itself up for a big year in 2009.
Hook ‘em!
hopefulhorn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Ease up, Tim. This weekend’s games were spread out over three days. I also suspect that Eyes, bless him for these summaries, has this thing called a Family that requires just a bit of time away from composing each week’s G, B & U.
Well done, as usual, Eyes. Your two main observations dominate my thoughts at this point too.
1) The utter greed and corruption of the heads of the Big 12-might as well add the heads of the other BCS conferences, the bowl committees and TV networks that keep this ridiculous system in place. My Sooner wife even admits Texas should go the the CCG by virtue of our RRS win in October. What a mess.
2) The sheer pleasure of a season’s worth of watching our over-achieving team. What a ride.
JDLooneyII said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Eyes nailed it. You can distill this current predicament into a single declarative statement: The team picked a most inopportune time to play its worst half of football all season.
This team has overachieved in every respect (even the rushing game, given the lack of a workable scheme). Before this season, I would have bet serious money that I’d NEVER say that about a Mack Brown-coached team. That’s a tribute to the kids, but it’s no less a tribute to Mack.
Tim said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:27 am
hopeful, my bad and will def lay it down. I’m just miffed that joklahomo gets cred for running up scores- ya dig?
hardlymarvin said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Bad: the field, what the fuck was up with that?
Something that never gets mentioned about Colt is that he is doing all of this while getting hit in the mouth on a regular basis, just look at his uniform at the end of any of our games. Bradford and Harrell get to sit back and pick apart defenses without that concern. Most qbacks become very different animals when confronted with the pressure that Colt gets
EyesOfTX said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:41 am
hardlymarvin - both excellent points. The field was a disaster, and our OL play has been only slightly less than that this season. In their defense, they are consistently asked to do the impossible in the running game, but our OL’s constant inability to recognize and pick up blitzes has been an ongoing problem point throughout Mack’s tenure at Texas.
Texoz said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Great write up. This season far exceeded everyone’s expectations. Nobody thought we would be 11-1 at this point, and in reality we were one play away from 12-0 and a shot at the NC.
It’s up to the human voters to determine if we get a shot at Big12 CC and then NC game. If we don’t get that shot, we’ll look back and still enjoy this season, but we’ll wonder “what if?”. What if we had a better running game that didn’t rely on the QB to be teh season’s rushing leader? Could we have held off Tech by eating up more clock? Could we have taken an early, big lead over A&M and scored more of Eye’s beloved “style points?”
Bottom line though, this team overachieved and it’s mostly due to Colt McCoy. Defense deserves a lot of credit, but Colt’s performance was one for the ages. It will be a shame if he doesn’t win the Heisman.
hardlymarvin said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:55 am
I tend to fall into negativity and focus on what the coaches do, or don’t do, but damn this has been a fun season, congrats to the team for all they have and will accomplish, now kick some ass in whatever bowl we get and on to ‘09!
Your Cat said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Don’t. Throw. Me.
Walt said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Great write-up, if you don’t mind leaving out 2/3rds of the relevant facts and distorting those you don’t choose to leave out. However, you do have your website named correctly “barking” is very appropriate for your brand of howling into the wind — good think you aren’t pissing as it would be sure to be against the wind.
To bad every team in the conference doesn’t get to play against Texas officials every meaningful conference game they play. Just like in the OU/Texas game, Randy “Mr. Texas” Crystal tried his best to give the Bedlam game to osu. What with his failure to see a fumble [which was right in front of his eyes] and didn’t even find the illegal “chop block” that resulted in a torn ACL for another OU MLB.
Texas has the benefit of officials in every conference game and still can’t get it done.
Mr. Barking dog, here are some facts for you to munch on: It is a 3-way tie [hate to have to point out these little issues} as you horns just can’t seem to grasp this concept.
OU played the tougher schedule and beat better teams. Then only quality TU outside of the 3-way tie was Missouri and osu. Still OU beat two other teams that are much higher ranked than Missouri. Plus, OU beat osu in Stillwater and beat them worse than you hornies did on their home turf.
Here are some more facts for you: OU will be rated higher in the human polls and also in the computers.
You lose … just deal with it.
Tim said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Walter,
I was very impressed when stupids kept his starters in against Tech with well over 50 pts on the board. I was equally impressed when blow U needed blown calls to stay within 10 against UT (UT was missing 3 starters for most of the game). OU’s tougher schedule was mesmarizing. The game against th DII cellar swellar was so impressive that the computers polls leave that game out. That really helps blow U’s SOS.
Here is an important fact for you: Blow U u may have a shot at winning it’s second NC while on probation. Very impressive.
Oops, take that back, FL, SC, and Tex would all (have)beat blow U by 10 on the field at least. Therefore no second title while on probation.
DevilsAdvocate said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:13 am
“If I ever have the displeasure of actually meeting one of them, I plan to knee the sorry sonofabitch in the nuts. Because that’s what they all will deserve if Texas gets left out of the Big 12 Championship game.”
So you must feel equally upset with the system if OU or Tech gets left out. We all did the same thing on the field. If you say we didn’t then you are referring to “style points” as well. 11-1 acoss the board with a 3 way circle jerk. The only way to avoid this is to win all your games, or shut up. If you get screwed while undefeated, then you complain…but if you didn’t win all your games, it’s hard to have a legit argument.
p said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Walt-
Here are some facts for you! OU will lose their bowl game by two touchdowns. That team is no better than the one we faced in Dallas. You may have fooled the voters, but you won’t fool Florida! Cheers!!!
Intellectual type said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Ah yes, let the ignorant OU posts commence!
Bob Stoops said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Walt will certainly not be disappointed when we get crushed in January. Different state, same result.
Armchair Shrink said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Walt’s syntax leads one to believe he is likely a 12 year old (or if you’d like to widen the net a bit, has the mental capacity of a 12 year old) and wrote his post whilst masturbating furiously to the dreamy cross-eyed gaze of Norman’s favorite Native American.
ChrisApplewhite said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Coaches poll is out, we’re down by one freaking vote. Tech and OU both have #1 votes, we don’t.
Mack is classy. This is not time for class, Mack.
ChrisApplewhite said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:34 am
“Texas has the benefit of officials in every conference game and still can’t get it done.”
Except for one very notable exception, I would say.
I think Phil Loadholt just held Brian Orakpo again.
BebopHorn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Eyes,
Great post. This team deserves so much better than to get jobbed by a bunch of nerds and coaches w/an agenda. The game was settled on a neutral field. SEC winner will trounce Stoopsie and then we will hear about their superiority forever and a day.
Next year I’m betting the farm in our games vs. OU and Tech. Payback will be sweet.
RichUT said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:40 am
CA,
In order to truly be classy, you have to do it when it is very difficult to do so.
Otherwise, you’re just insincere. Mack is just being Mack.
God bless him.
Sasha_Is_A_Longhorn_Dog said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Great. Nothing like watching a Big 12 Championship game between two teams we beat soundly.
p said:
November 30th, 2008 at 8:52 am
This setting up just like 2004-2005.
OU will get blown out in the MNC, embarrassing the big12 again. Then we will be forced to go to the MNCG next year to get conference respect back.
People will realize what a mistake it was voting OU over Texas after the bowl games. Too bad it will be too late. OU, make it 5 straight BCS bowl losses!
RFourie said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Glad someone else noticed the horrible spotting. If it was obvious to me from seats one row from the top of the west upper deck, there is no excuse to consistently missing it on the field.
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Eyes, you now seem resigned to the outcome we all expect later today. Your anguish is a far cry from this statement you made last weekend, when you were rooting for OU:
“Second, I don’t believe OU will run the table. They’ll beat Tech, then lose to OSU. But even if they should win both game, they will not pass Texas in the BCS. Bank it.”
If the Texas fans would direct as much ire towards Mack Brown for retaining the idiot Greg Davis as they do towards the nameless meanies who vote us lower than OU in the polls, we might avoid this predicament. The only way Texas will ever win anything meaningful is by running the table, which is highly unlikely with that clown designing our running scheme, calling our plays, and mismanaging the clock. This title was lost with a miserable offensive game plan in Lubbock, because Greg is still Mack’s asshole buddy.
EyesOfTX said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:19 am
DBH: Yes, I’ve changed my mind. Sue me.
Fully agree about that idiot Greg Davis and what he likely cost us in Lubbock with his latest brain dead performance at crunch time.
EyesOfTX said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:23 am
BTW, my anguish about the outcome of today’s BCS silliness could turn out to be all for naught. We gained 41 points on OU in today’s Coaches poll, and moved back ahead of the cocksuckers in the AP poll. If Harris mirrors the AP, there is an outside chance we get to the BTCG after all.
I would be very pleased to be wrong about that assumption, but my comments about the mindlessness of the system we have in place and about the atrocity the Big 12 has become would still stand.
ChrisApplewhite said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Class schmass. Are we going to sit around and congratulate ourselves as we watch OU play for yet another MNC?
Nobody would blame us for tanking OU. The polls aren’t even public until next week. Of all the things that went wrong yesterday and Friday that were out of our control, this wasn’t.
I just hope Harris comes through for us.
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Eyes, we normally agree on most things relating to what’s good and bad about Texas football. I admire your take on things, just feel that your current frustration is a tad misplaced.
Unfortunately, with all our advantages, the system demands perfection from Texas. Everyone in the country is jealous of our program, so voters can’t be expected to cut us any slack if we don’t run the table. Winning them all becomes highly problematical when we’ve got a buffoon directing our offense. That Mack goes against his own best interest in allowing that to happen, year after year, is truly disturbing.
With all that said, I’m proud of this team for *almost* overcoming the ball and chain that weighs them down.
Aggie Lurking said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Observations from a neutral person:
-Colt has really matured and deserves a Heisman for single handedly pulling this team to a level no one thought possible.
-OU has a better offense than you do.By far. Whether that’s on Davis wasting talent I don’t know but once OU gets a rhythm they seeemingly can’t be stopped.
- Your defense has greatly improved under Muschamp. It’s better than OU’s which says a lot.
-The only way to be called for holding is to be beat and tackle defenders from behind which is a play we mastered this year.
- Thank God for Iowa State and Colorado.
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:44 am
“I would be very pleased to be wrong about that assumption, but my comments about the mindlessness of the system we have in place and about the atrocity the Big 12 has become would still stand.”
I agree the system sucks totally and needs to be replaced with a playoff that decides this shit on the field. And I very much hope we’re both wrong about how it turns out when all the votes and computer results are in.
EyesOfTX said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Aggie Lurking - I agree on every point. No question OU’s offense is light years ahead of ours, and that is due both to a slight edge in overall talent and a huge edge in coaching.
Your Cat, Currently Pissing on Your Bedspread said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Don’t. Throw. Me.
Ahhhhh. . .
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 9:57 am
If I hear another whiny Texan complaion about ‘holding’ ‘no class’ or any other BS, I swear, I’m gonna climb on my roof an scream at the top of my lungs “THANK GOD THE DIXIE CHICKS AREN’T FROM OKLAHOMA!” I know intelligent (semi) Texas fans watched the replay of the Red River Shootout. Are you Texas fans telling me that any of you actually saw Colt McCoy get hit out of bounds on the two personal foul calls that went Texas’ way, and enabled Texas to sustain drives that resulted in touchdows? Are you tryimg top get me to beleive that McCoy DIDN’T throw an interception in the endzone, after which Texas then scored a touchdown? There are pitiful refereeing calls all over college football and Texas hasn’t been the victim of them any more than any other team. Did anybody who watched that NOT think Kendall Hunter fumbled in the 3rd Quarter? Let it go people. Texas didn’t handle their business in Lubbock, and that’s why we’re in this mess (which I actually think is exciting).
EyesOfTX said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Sooner - there was no INT in the endzone. It was one of the very few correct calls the refs made that day, and the replays proved that. As for the personal fouls, if your coaches quit coaching your players to be such cheap shot artists, the officials wouldn’t be looking so closely at those borderline calls.
Boo(hoo)mer Sooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Some Sooner fans have better things to do than troll Longhorn blogs and talk smack; some actually contribute something original or insightful to the forum.
Jonathan Swift said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Just another modest proposal:
Texas and Arkansas switch places. Arkansas goes to the Big 12 South, while Texas goes to the SEC West. Now there can be no debate about which conference is the best. Texas still plays OU every October, but with non-Big 12 officials calling holding, beats their sorry asses by 60 points.
Plus, the added benefit of the Big 12 collapsing into complete irrevelance.
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Well, at least I understand that Eyes has no knowledge of the rules of football. A player catches the ball while in a dead run, takes a step, (on the field of play, mind you) rolls and lands on his back, all in possession of the football. After he hits the ground, in the endzone where he is down, then the ball come loose, but he has already gained possession and is down before that occurs. In any other situation, that is a catch (or interception) And it was clearly shown so on replay.
Jonathan Swift said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:07 am
or, irrelevance
Horn in Tyler said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Sooner, you should never let the officials determine the outcome of the game. They’re human (hence the nonexistent holding calls in the Big XII). Officials impact the game, but players really should decide it then and there on the turf. Who’s more to blame for Texas’ loss to Tech-the officials who never called holding, or Greg Davis’s I-formation from the 2, or Blake Gideon’s drop?
Simple fact is, officals officiate the game and don’t play it. Judges don’t win cases, lawyers do.
Officials screwed Texas in the Cotton Bowl against Arkansas when they refused to call a safety not once, but twice, when Texas tackled the Hogs’ QB in the endzone with the ball. Arky then drove 98 yards and won big. Were officials responsible for the entire loss? Nope.
Conversely, USC “got screwed” by virtue of the hand off/TD that occurred when Vince’s knee was down and he tossed it out.
It’s just a facet of the game. Your coaches and your players need to control the game. If you want to blame the officials, you should also blame weather and other intangibles.
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:16 am
The fact is, the Big 8 saved Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor and Texas A&M. The SW conference had died on the vine and was shriveling up and blowing away. I guess the SW conference was the one that proved to be irrelevant. If Texas thinks leaving the Big12 would just be in their best interest, don’t let the door hit them in the ass, that’s what I say.
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Your narrative totally misstates what happened on that play. Nice try, but you’re still an idiot. GTFOOH.
Horn in Tyler said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Swift: are there varying levels of irrelevance?
If anything adds the issue of relevancy into the college football equation, it is the fact that only 2 Big XII teams will make it to a BCS bowl game despite that Tech would pwn any team from the Big 10(11).
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:20 am
HorninTyler - I agree with you completely, but apparently some of your breathern do not, hence all the whinning about holding and other crap I read about here.
Horn in Tyler said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:22 am
I find it strikingly relevant that OU has lost its last 5 bowl games while Texas has won its last 5. Perchance the voters find that relevant as well?
Texas just jumped OU in the AP poll.
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Hore - relevant in what regard? Both OU & Texas are going to play in a BCS game, assuming Mizzou don’t get lucky next week against which ever team goes. Do you thing the decision regarding which team goes to the championship game should be based on any factors from past seasons? If so, I’d like to know which.
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Too bad the BCS doesn’t use the AP. Most worthless poll in America (besides a CNN Presidential Poll).
intellectual type said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Do you even read what you type? E and N are no where near each on the keyboard. Please spell check in Microsoft Word or something along those lines.
intellectual type said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am
DAMNIT, EPIC FAIL. No where near each other.
Art Vandelay said:
November 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Eyes,
Fantastic write-up. I agree our running game is sophomoric, but considering we lost our three most explosive offensive players to the NFL early… you have to admit the offense far exceeded expectations.
You captured my feelings exactly regarding the conference and the BC Mess, and style points should be reserved for Ice Skating and Gymnastics.
Hook ‘em!!
ChrisApplewhite said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:06 am
“If I hear another whiny Texan complaion about ‘holding’ ‘no class’ or any other BS, I swear, I’m gonna climb on my roof an scream at the top of my lungs “THANK GOD THE DIXIE CHICKS AREN’T FROM OKLAHOMA!””
LOL wut?
RansomStoddard said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Is no one on here going to mention to the ou trolls that they lost, fair and square, by ten points on a neutral field?
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am
I think you just did, Ransom.
Problem is, the land thieves don’t think it was fair and square, citing phantom interceptions in the endzone while ignoring the DB (who didn’t intercept the ball) was guilty of holding on the same play. You can’t reason with them using facts like scoreboard.
dick said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:22 am
they aren’t really interested in that result, they think margin of victory in other games makes more difference. don’t mention the KU game.
MJeter said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Are you talking about the Kansas team that gained 491 yards in losing to OU 45-31? The same one that scored fewer than 21 points only once this season — in a 35-7 loss to Texas?
BoomerFreakinSooner said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Sorry for being so stupid earlier
zizzyballooba said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Just checked-out Rich Tellshow’s BCS analysis. If he is correct with his computer projections (and he usually is), we are only going to be .01 behind OU in the computers. We already know that we are .001 behind OU in the Coach’s poll.
We picked-up 41 votes in the Coach’s poll and that equates to almost a 2.7% vote swing between us and OU. This leaves us needing only a 2.2% swing in the Harris poll. That is a net vote change of 63 votes. We would only need to be ahead of OU by 41 votes in the Harris since we are now down by 22. Before OU beat TT, we were ahead of them by about 100 points in Harris. The pendulum has already swung back in the Coach’s poll. We need a smaller swing in the Harris poll than we had in the Coach’s poll.
I think we may be playing for the big one! We will know at 4pm Eastern.
Walt Jr. said:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Walt - Good points if you have no brain - Scoreboard 45 -35 the rest is just window dressing
Dave Becker said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
“Randy “Mr. Texas” Crystal tried his best to give the Bedlam game to osu. What with his failure to see a fumble [which was right in front of his eyes]”
It was right in front of the umpire. The referee had the worst vantage point of anyone on the field.
doog said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
The way it looks now is that we’re down in 2 polls (Coaches and Comps) and there is no way that the Harris voters, even if they back us, will provide a large enough gap.
I’ve come to peace with that. I have accepted that joklahoma will play in the MNC (sorry Mizzou, dont think an upset will happen)
Fortunately, I think Florida will crush the land thieves handily. Another BCS crushing for the sooners is something I really look forward to
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I’m reading elsewhere that OU’s game against a 1-11 Tenn.-Chattanooga doesn’t adversely affect their strength of schedule, since games against D-II lightweights are ignored by the computers. Can anyone confirm this?
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Harris is out. We’re six points ahead of OU. Not enough.
Damnit said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Damnit. http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Nov_30_2008.pdf
ChrisApplewhite said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
OU got lucky with TCU and Cinncinnati being 12 and 13. They are easy wins with big rewards. We got unlucky with Missouri choking, and NU’s miracle kick.
I could curse Art Briles but it is Baylor after all.
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
It’s official…we’re hosed:
http://cfn.scout.com/a.z?s=451&p=2&c=557949
Fuck Barry Switzer said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
And OU leapfrogs us. With Barry Switzer smiling like the little cheating bastard he is on the NFL postgame show.
I despise OU and the Big 12 and the BCS
DBH said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Thanks, Greg. You fucked us, again.
South 06 said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Tough break. I definitely feel for you guys, and that’s not sarcasm.
As a relentless homer, I knew that you guys heading to the BCS championship would wreck our recruiting even worse. But, as a fan of college football in general, I was hoping you guys came out ahead.
On the bright side, I’ve been lurking this site for awhile now and this season was CLEARLY better than any of you expected.
NateHeupel said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
DBH:
Depends on the computer. Sagarin doesn’t rate them as D1AA or D1A. He rates them as if they were one division and ranks accordingly. Chattanooga is like 204th or some such.
As for the scoreboard argument:
If OU didn’t want to complain, they should’ve beaten UT.
If UT didn’t want to complain, they should’ve beaten Tech.
If Tech didn’t want to complain, they should’ve beaten OU.
Sasha_Is_A_Longhorn_Dog said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Scoreboard still stands.
NateHeupel said:
November 30th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
39-33. You really don’t want that argument to stand, sasha.
Bob said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I fully expect OU to beat the snot out of Missouri since they save their chokejobs for the biggest of stages.
As bad as it would be for the Big 12 I am looking forward to watching Florida tear them a new one.
zizzyballooba said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
It is too close to call. It is down to two computer polls: Anderson & Colley. Last polling we were only .002 behind Utah in 3rd place. Utah was off this week and we obviously won big. If we make-up those 2 thousandths of a point this week and move into 2nd, we are in. Or, if Oklahoma does not jump from 5th to 2nd in the Colley poll we are in. Before this week’s games, we were in a solid 1st in the Colley and ‘Bama was in a comfortable 2nd. OU will jump from 5th to 3rd in this poll. We just want them to stay behind the Crimson Tide. The other computer polls will not change enough to affect the outcome.
This thing is a nail biter. I think we will win out because I don’t think OU can ‘Bama in the Colley.
Have faith! It still looks like we have a good chance.
Logic(antithesis of BCS) said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I think its funny that the same OU team that was rated higher than TX when they lost is still rated higher. Apparently offense and running up the score matter more than anything else. TX would beat them and their horrible D any day because it is the same team!
Nate Huepel Jr. said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Loser sooners can’t claim Tech’s score as theirs
OF the three games only Texas was not at home - the other two teams played at home
Commish said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I’m by no means a BCS expert, but what are the chances of an OU vs. UT rematch in the title game? Florida is trailing UT by a decent margin, would a win vs. Bama be enough for them to jump? What about a sloppy win?
Super said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Fuck Mike Gundy. An OSU win would have effectively put us in Miami, since the SEC Champ Game is basically an elimination.
Maybe the frauds from Mizzou can pull one out of their ass next week. Not gonna bet the rent on it, though.
Bob said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Do they not have Sooner boards or are all 56k modems in Oklahoma down?
Tex said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
We’re in the position of a decent woman who’s been scorned in favor of a two-bit hussy with a plunging neckline who’ll be no damn good once the sun comes up in the morning.
All we can do is go to church and tell ourselves they’ll be sorry when the day of reckoning comes.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
NateHeupel,
Tech was not even part of the conversation. If the game at OU had been close then the conversation would have been different and all sooners know it. But the fact is they had been eliminated by all voters with a 40 point loss and an extremely close win at home against Baylor. Clearly, the two best teams in the Big 12 were texas and oklahoma and the head to head should have been the deciding factor between the two schools. The Big 12 has an egg on its face with this one as the conference didn’t adopt the same rules as the ACC and SEC regarding tiebreakers. You know you guys don’t deserve this good fortune and you would be screaming bloody murder if the shoe was on the other foot. I’m a big believer in head to head and this is a complete travesty. I always root for big 12 teams against other schools but now I hope Oklahoma gets the ever living shit kicked out of them because that is what they deserve.
flamingmonkeyass said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
We can complain Nate because we beat you on a neutral field. The question isn’t which of the three teams is better but which, between ou and Texas, is worthy of playing for a title. We beat you on a neutral field. We are a better football team. Unfortunately there are voters out there who do not undestand that the transitive property does not apply in sports. It must be a sad day when Oklahoma has to rely on Texas Tech to make it’s case that they’re better than us. Congrats on your upcoming humiliation at the hands of an overrated Florida team.
zizzyballooba said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Commish — http://www.tellshowbcs.com discusses the possibility of a UT/OU re-match in Miami. It is a distinct possibility; however, with the human pollsters’ tendency to knee-jerk a team up the polls after a win against a ranked opponent, it probably wont happen.
zizzyballooba said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
“I always root for big 12 teams against other schools but now I hope Oklahoma gets the ever living shit kicked out of them because that is what they deserve.”
Don’t look at it that way. UT won the head-to-head and in any other conference would be going to Miami. We hope OU wins. That makes UT the real national champs!
Major Cult said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Here’s to Sooner pulling his nearly perfected “BCS Bowl Choke Job” a month early. No offense to Mizzou, but Sooner will have to throttle himselves a bit to make this happen.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I hear ya, Zizzy, but this is a complete travesty and that jackass NateHeupel knows it. He knows their d is suspect and he knows they are completely lucky to be in the position that they are in. OU has a great offense but a complete football team they are not.
NateHeupel said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Groundhog Day proves why Texas’ logic here is beyond retarded.
“Tech was not even part of the conversation. If the game at OU had been close then the conversation would have been different and all sooners know it.”
If Texas Tech wasn’t part of the conversation, then why was there a 3 way tie? Didn’t Texas lose at some point? I ask because all of you seem to think UT went undefeated.
Groundhog, by your logic, Tech’s loss counts against them, but it doesn’t count FOR OU since it was OU who flattened them. Make that make sense, because it currently exudes the worst kind of ignorant homerism.
I said it before, and every one of you knows it’s true: if you’d beaten Tech, this wouldn’t be an issue. If you don’t want a crappy Big 12 tiebreaker deciding your fate, don’t lose to Texas Tech. The end.
Horn in Tyler said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Hey Nate, we’re all a little confused. If Texas had beaten Tech, would the Big XII tiebreaker have come into play?
Maybe you’re accustomed to educating morons on Sooner boards, but we don’t need any reminders of what we all realized weeks ago.
I’d actually like OU to win against MU and for Florida to barely squeak by AL. From what I’ve seen, Florida may not make up enough ground in the computer polls (human polls, like refs, be damned!) to get past Texas.
I wonder how OU will perform against a team that actually knows how to play defense? I don’t know if it’d be 45-35 again, but I wouldn’t rule out something like 41-38 UT, which would be a fitting and symbolic score.
burnt orange dog said:
November 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Does anybody know if the Rose Bowl is going to be played this year? Penn State beat the snot out of Oregon State, which then beat USC. So it seems the outcome of the game is irrelevant.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Nate,
This is Disgusting and you know it. Hell, the AP knows it. ND got jobbed in 93, Miami got jobbed in 2000, and Texas got jobbed in 08. The voters had to decide between TX and OU. Under the logical SEC and ACC tiebreakers Texas wins based on head to head. Again, tech was omitted from the conversation due to a drubbing by OU, barely beating Baylor, needing overtime to beat Nebraska and barely beating A&M. This team was not part of the national title picture. If you think they enter in the equation I would like to hear your arguments as to how they are. However, Texas and OU are part of the national title picture along with USC, Penn State and Utah and you have to decide between the two. How best to do it? Tech had a great night in Lubbock. You know how hard it is to win there at night don’t you? Yes, we lost to tech and there are no excuses for it but they were not part of the conversation among voters and you know it. This was a two team conversation and will decide who plays for the title. I know how lucky you are and so do you. This was not settled on the field. We beat your ass this year and hopefully, the AP stays the course and splits the title if that’s what it comes down to. Your defense is suspect and you know it. I am by no means a homer and you could look at my history of posts as evidence to this. I’m sorry you have tough time thinking critically, but again Tech was not a consideration among voters.
burnt orange dog said:
November 30th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Does anyone know if Missouri losing to Kansas changed the computer rankings. I assume the margin would have been closer, but would it have affected the positions?
Sasha_Is_A_Longhorn_Dog said:
November 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Nate was educated at ou. You all need to stop wasting time trying to use logic with him since there is no way he’ll ever be able to understand it.
Nate Huepel Jr. said:
November 30th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
NateHeupel’s logic is beyond retarded
caradoc said:
November 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Speaking of spotting the ball, remember the time they called a personal foul on the Aggies and announced the penalty would be marked from the line of scrimmage? Then it was first and fourteen!
Horn in Tyler said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Saw this on Stew Mandel’s blog and figured you’d think it interesting:
“Apparently, somebody at the SEC foresaw this exact scenario when he or she devised that conference’s tiebreaker. It states that in the event of an unbreakable three-way tie, if the top two teams are within five spots of each other in the BCS standings, ‘the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the [title game] representative.’”
Here’s hoping that we take care of business completely next year and not have to rely on this stupidity.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Nate,
Whoa, Kirk Herbstreit just said what I stated above regarding Tech. He must use retarded logic as well. No wait, he can actually possesses skills to think critically.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Nate,
Whoa, Kirk Herbstreit just said what I stated above regarding Tech. He must use retarded logic as well. No wait, he can actually think critically.
Spring Branch Horn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
OU could not beat us on the field but they beat us off the field
ponderos said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Has beowulf posted that there’s “no way OU jumps Texas in the computers” again?
That was a gem.
ponderos said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
By the way, tell me again how head-to-head is all that matters, but Tech shouldn’t be part of the conversation?
I’m just a caveman, I don’t understand your fancy logic.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Ponderos,
First off do we agree that Texas Tech is not part of the national title picture but both Texas and OU are? If so, that should answer the question. Who won head to head? If you beleive Tech should be a part of the national title picture I would like to hear your reasons why. There is no way that tech gets consideration over USC, Utah, Penn State. You don’t lose a game by 40 points, survive overtime against Nebraska and barely beat baylor and A&M and have a chance at the national title.
Spring Branch Horn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Because the are the lowest ranked team and they also lost badly
Texas did not have a home game against the other two.
How do you think that the SEC does their tie breaker? CHeck on that and get back with me.
ponderos said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Groundhog. If Texas deserves to be ranked ahead of OU, then Tech deserves to be ranked ahead of Texas. However, OU deserves to be ranked ahead of Tech.
I’m betting the big brains at the Big 12 league office never thought this could happen. The tiebreaker rule is hokey and will probably be modified after the season, but for now it is what it is. Can’t change the rules in the middle of the game just because it’s not going your way.
Spring Branch. Texas and OU aren’t in the SEC. I looked it up.
Bob Stoops said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Sorry I kicked Tech’s ass so bad. Next time I’ll pull Sam in the second quarter instead of the third.
Bob Stoops' Penis said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
If only you pulled me a few times you wouldn’t be such a douche.
Spring Branch Horn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
really ponderos?
THe point is that the tie breaker that they use is more fair that the one that the Big 12 uses. You know that if the table where turned you would be saying the exact same thing.
If we lost to OU there is no way that I could make an intelligent argument that Texas was better than OU. Since you are a cavemen you can’t either.
Now go back to watching GEICO commercials
ponderos said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Spring Branch. I agree that it’s probably a more equitable tiebreaker and yes, if the situation’s were reversed, I’d be uber-pissed.
However, we have to play by Big 12 rules, not SEC rules. The kicker with the SEC rules, though, is that it still relies on the fucked up BCS. For the love of god, NCAA … playoff.
UT’s consolation prize will likely be the Fiesta. Not bad.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Ponderos and Nate Heupel have a tough time thinking critically and they also have a tough time realizing that Tech is not part of the NC chase while Texas and OU are. It’s useless to have intelligent banter with people who lack any sort of meaning mental capacity.
If the roles were reversed I would say Texas would not have a leg to stand on and I’ve been very critical of this program in the past.
Ponderos, you know you possess half a football team. While your offense is one of the best in the country it’s your defense that is absolutely going to get exposed in January. The stats and film don’t lie. I’ll take pleasure knowing that you will get your asses kicked and hopefully, the media will split the titles. However, Texas lost and is at the mercy of the system and I can accept that. What I can’t accept is a team we thoroughly whipped in the 3rd and 4th quarter on a neutral site play for a National Title. However, we look forward to taking away your manhood again next year on the field.
ponderos said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
This will no doubt be one of my favorite weeks of my 15 years in Austin because of folks like you, Groundhog.
Thanks, bro.
Spring Branch Horn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
If Austin Box is hurt for the game they would not be able to stop my momma
Sam Bradford said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I get a turn with your momma, too.
Spring Branch Horn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Only if Sam Bradford plays defense - with this bad thumb he can’t
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Ponderos, let’s see if you’re around this site in January. My guess is no.
Horn in Tyler said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
It’s a tribute to the women of the University of Texas that a player named “Austin Box” will actually doom OU next week.
p said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
ponderos-
You won’t be laughing around the first week of January. If you don’t know that’s when reality sets in. That’s when you realize that Texas’ defense would have been better served to face Florida. When you realize what Sam Bradford looks like when he has little time to survey the field.
As far as the Texas/OU/Tech thing goes. Texas was the only one of those teams not to get a home game, that’s why they are better.
Groundhog Day said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
P-don’t you love how Ponderos, Nate Heupel and the rest of jackass nation has shown up to gloat due to a silly computer? They can’t beat us on the field so they come over to gloat about beating us off the field. True greatness right there.
flamingmonkeyass said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Ponderos - Texas is a better football team than ou. I’ll take comfort in that fact. And also in knowing that Mack Brown now owns bob stoops. Belive me, I’ll sleep just fine.
Didn't Beat Texas Bowl said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Starring OU and Mizzou - to be played next week in KC
Directed by Bob “Little Game” Stoops and Brent “Where is my defense” Venables
Big Gay Bob said:
November 30th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I think the computers worked out for us in a really great way.
RansomStoddard said:
November 30th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
I like “Lost to Texas By Double Digits” Bowl better. How embarassing is this crap for the Big 12?
Kansas Horn said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
“Groundhog. If Texas deserves to be ranked ahead of OU, then Tech deserves to be ranked ahead of Texas.”
If that is your logic ponderos, then:
Ole Miss deserves to be ranked ahead of Florida
Oregon St deserves to be ranked ahead of USC
Iowa deserves to be ranked ahead of Penn St.
Kansas deserves to be ranked ahead of Mizzu
One other thing is in all of those games mentioned(including Texas vs Tech), All of the teams that lost had a chance to win on their final drive or lost on the last play of the game. OU was down 10 on a neutral field with really no hope at the end of the game.
p said:
November 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Groundhog Day-
You are right!!!
I would be embarrassed if I were one of these guys. Why would you come here bragging about this crap, as if you had anything to do with knocking us out of the CCG. Texas Tech would have more of a case than any Okies.
It will be funny when they get embarrassed again in their fourth straight BCS game, while we continue adding to our unblemished BCS record. They will clutch their Big12 conference trophies, and spout venom about Mack having won only 1. It will be the only thing they have left.
mysterious package said:
December 1st, 2008 at 1:52 am
Okies need to get off the board and go back to your negative GDP pos cult of Norman.go support something worth while like the auto Bailout since your mobile home modle may not be extended. I look forward to ou getting dry humped by an overrated tebow and co. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Nate and ponderos and take your national Merrit scholars with you.
hphorn said:
December 1st, 2008 at 3:58 am
Ponderos -
I thought your favorite week(s) of the year would be in January - after getting blown out of another BCS or MNC game and having to deal with it ALL off-season?
exuLt said:
December 1st, 2008 at 9:09 am
“If I hear another whiny Texan complaion about ‘holding’ ‘no class’ or any other BS, I swear, I’m gonna climb on my roof an scream at the top of my lungs “THANK GOD THE DIXIE CHICKS AREN’T FROM OKLAHOMA!””
I suspect he does it anyway. Looking for those pretexts…
Ag_in_TX said:
December 1st, 2008 at 10:33 am
Dear God, where am I?
The last thing I remember was seeing Joe Kines leave the sidelines to take over as the new Grampa on Hee-Haw. Did it really happen or was it just a Jameson-induced hallucination?
I remember bits and pieces of the game, but when we kicked a field goal on 4th and inches late in the 2nd to cut y’alls lead to 14-3, I popped a blood vessel in my brain screaming at the TV and as McCoy calmly dissected our abysmmal secondary in the remaining time left to make it 21-3, I started a slow, long descent into a full scale alcohol induced stupor.
You boys understand- I’m sure you’ve all been there.
It was a great 731 days of having scoreboard on you boys. Congratulations on a fine win over a stout A&M squad (cough, cough, hiccup).
Crazy Joe Clark said:
December 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Sergio? From Rio?
Kinda heavy set, thin guy?
limonjello said:
December 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
I am glad to see that comment about the linesman. I was at the game and thought this same thing, but figured I just was seeing things wrong this game (though I don’t know why it would suddenly have changed after 10 years in the same seat). That was just bizarre on his part, but it did seem even between the two teams.
EyesOfTX said:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Yeah, he was spotting it the same way regardless of which team had the ball. Over the course of the game, Texas ran 20 or so more plays, so it affected us a little more, but it wasn’t any effort to screw Texas per se. It was just sadly typical Bizzaro Big 12 officiating.
Chase Daniel said:
December 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Are you guys kidding? Even I know we don’t stand a fucking chance. I’d love to help but we’re a defense and a faux-hawk away from being able to stand on the same field as the top 3 teams in the South.
UTBlood4Life said:
December 5th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Eyes,
Just a great read, plain and simple. Absolutely LOVE to UMPH and say YES!,… while reading your words again and again.
This program has a fantastic future ahead of it,…..and we (they) can all feel it. Great season,…….really, really pissed that we
have been forced to witness irrational “Big 12 behavior”,…..but pumped that - 1) Muschamp is locked in, 2) we DRUBBED the Ags, 3) recruiting continues to stun,…..and that 4) we will most probably bash whoever we play in our bowl game.
All of this could add up to ending up #1 in the AP,….and share a little National Championship pie. Better ‘n crow I suppose.
HOOK’EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!