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The 86-year old owner of the Tennessee Titans says he has seen enough, and it’s time to see if Vince Young is the Titan QB of the future.
Tennessee is 0-6 coming off a bye week and plays Jacksonville this weekend. The Titans signed Kerry Collins to a two-year, $14 million contract in the offseason, while Young is due to count $14.2 million against the salary cap next season.
Bud Adams, Fisherball, Jeff Fisher, NFL, Tennessee Titans, Vince Young
Tim commented on the blog post Win – Yes! Questions? Plenty 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Good write up RRR, I disagree with you on Doege, but I hope I’m wrong and you’re right. With Karam redshirting and Scotty Young polishing up and enjoying his senior year, it should be an interesting couple of years at QB for Tech.
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Tim commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
That’s some funny shit mojave. I’m just not getting Pott’s, he had something like 1000 yards rushing in high school, and I’m willing to bet $100 that he would beat Graham Harrell in a foot race. I’m at a loss, maybe Leach is to blame.
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RRR wrote a new blog post: Win – Yes! Questions? Plenty 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
The final score doesn’t at all reflect how the majority of this game went down. To tell the truth, I was in full panic-mode at the end of the third quarter. And while the fourth quarter was a pleasure to watch, I came away scratching my head and just being thankful we have Baron Batch
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Nate Heupel wrote a new blog post: Roddrick Muckelroy is Focused 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
The following quote is the only competent thing ESPN has puppeteered out of Pat Forde’s felt mouth:
“The big prize is next week — Florida Atlantic,” said linebacker Roddrick Muckelroy. “That’s the next big prize on the menu.”Umm, Roddrick? The next opponent is Central Florida, not Florida Atlantic.
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Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 3 hours, 30 minutes ago
In a National Championship game?
Huckleberry commented on the blog post FLV Bets: Week 9 3 hours, 54 minutes ago
Put that one in the memory bank. 6-0 week for the computer model that resulted in +12 units.
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dedfischer commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
Outstanding post, Tim, and no matter how much shit they give you over at BC, your contributions are always quality and appreciated around here. Thanks for sharing.
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dedfischer commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
Outstanding post, Tim, and no matter how much shit they give you over at BC, you’re contributions are always quality and appreciated around here. Thanks for sharing.
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Phenomenal Smith wrote a new blog post: Mizzou/CU Post-Mortem: The Righting 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
That was good. Not a perfect game, not a game without frustrations, but the Tigers displayed their superior talent and put the game away quickly. CU was able to make a little noise, but with that offense and the way Mizzou’s defense was playing, a 33 point comeback just wasn’t going to happen.
So,
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Tim commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
We have already tried the Olsen at LT experiment and it didn’t go well. Tech has tried Carter/Olsen/Winn/McDaniels and someone I’m forgetting and the only one who has held his own has been Terry McDaniels, but he is gone for the year. Winn is getting abused at LT, and has been below average
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Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
Good shit, ded.
I think our running game would get cornholed vs. Bama or Fla.
dedfischer commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 5 hours ago
t1, that pic was actually kind of hard to find. You don’t want to know what I had to wade through to find it. That was commitment.
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dedfischer commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 5 hours ago
t1, that pic was actually kind of hard to find. You don’t want to know what I had to wade through to find it.
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dedfischer commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 5 hours, 1 minute ago
Yeah, that was straight up Bar None Rodeo style.
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dedfischer commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 5 hours, 1 minute ago
Woody, I’ve seen 3 teams play with defenses good enough to win it all this year, Bama, Florida and Texas. In those kind of matchups, it typically comes down to which offense is the least self-destructive against their counterpart. Outside of their own locker room, I just don’t think the Texas offense gets
dedfischer commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 5 hours, 1 minute ago
Woody, I’ve seen 3 teams play with defenses good enough to win it all this year, Bama, Florida and Texas. In those kind of matchups, it typically comes down to which offense is the least self-destructive against their counterpart. Outside of their own locker room, I just don’t think the Texas offense gets
dedfischer commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 5 hours, 1 minute ago
Woody, I’ve seen 3 teams play with defenses good enough to win it all this year, Bama, Florida and Texas. In those kind of matchups, it typically comes down to which offense is the least self-destruction against their counterpart. Outside of their own locker room, I just don’t think the Texas offense gets
uthookem commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Apparently good-natured ribbing / sarcasm only gets you so far…
t1climb1 commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
OK, that Mangino halter paragraph is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen you write Ded. What made that so great was your level of commitment. You hunkered down and drove that baby all the home and out the other side.
Gold I tell you, Gold!
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dedfischer commented on the blog post Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 6 hours, 2 minutes ago
Olson or McDaniel/Edwards/Byrnes or Keown/Carter/Winn are our best run blocking unit from left to right.
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ghostofagroundgame commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 6 hours, 3 minutes ago
Despite rumors that ded and Tim are one and the same, which I’m not convinced of, his contributions, while partisan, are usually pretty sound.
dedfischer commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
Yeah, I’m feeling a little better about the Horns run defense against those teams. The problem is they become accustomed to getting blocked by spread sissies for 12 games. Ingram intrigues me. Seems like a guy that will give everyone problems. I think Tebow would be cut into a Muschamp k-bob.
Hiphopopotamus wrote a new blog post: Post-Mortem: Texas Tech 6 hours, 16 minutes ago
In a game filled with what-the-fuck moments, it was only fitting that the fourth quarter and the outcome was defined by them. For nearly three full quarters, our defense had put together a tremendous effort. Pressuring the quarterback, contesting passes, forcing turnovers and keeping Tech off the scoreboard. But as he hasn’t
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t1climb1 commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 6 hours, 23 minutes ago
ded’s first post back after the TAMU loss, and again, adds little to the conversation.
He actually posted on the GBU just before this thread and had one of the more insightful posts regarding our defense I have seen. Ded’s one of the good guys and certainly in my opinion one of the 2 or 3
dedfischer commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
“ded’s first post back after the TAMU loss, and again, adds little to the conversation.”
You say that as if there’s a ton of value in playing the role of UT Tim.
dick commented on the blog post The Good, The Good, and The Goodly – Texas 41, Oklahoma State 14 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
You can not throw your shoulder into a guy’s head as he is trying to catch the ball or even use that move to try and separate the WR from the ball. That was an easy call to make. People on here saying that was not the right call sound like idiots.
The forward
dedfischer wrote a new blog post: Kansas Post-Mortem: Deddy Gets a New Defense 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
Writing a football blog about your home team sometimes feels like owning a Genie lamp when things you wish to happen do and then they work. Plus, it establishes credibility with the reader when I point it out, so you’ll basically believe anything I tell you. Let’s get started. Lots to discuss this week as it was
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MilkmanDan commented on the blog post The Good, The Good, and The Goodly – Texas 41, Oklahoma State 14 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
Also, once Buckner established possession of the ball, he is no longer a defenseless player and is then a runner.
How did he establish possession on an incomplete pass?
Hiphopopotamus wrote a new blog post: BlogPoll Draft: Week 9 7 hours, 37 minutes ago
As always, suggestions welcome. Especially on the 25th spot, which honestly took me longer than any other in the poll. I really didn’t want to rank anyone once I got to about 10th. Put it this way, if Iowa, Penn State and Ohio State are three of the thirteen best teams in
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Texoz commented on the blog post Brandon Spikes really believes that Tim Tebow can heal the blind 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
HJ, are you getting mellow in your old age? I expected to see “school for the blind” and “skull-fucking” in your article tags.
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magnusbleuveigner said:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Put up or shut up time for our hero. If nothing else, I’d like him to audition well for the rest of the league.
Let’s go Vince!
kevwun said:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Here’s something else for Jeff Fisher to consider. Wide receivers should be capable of catching a pass occasionally. Perhaps you should take that in to account before drafting or signing them in the future.
nordberg said:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:45 am
One day I want it explained to me why the Titans took Vince #3 overall and attempted to plug him into that offense. I thought it was understood that any team that drafted Vince would have to completely overhaul their offensive system, as he’s not exactly Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.
TXinDC said:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Too little, too late. I fear that VY’s entry in the NFL encyclopedia has already been written and sent off to the publisher.
” ‘Twas a perfect storm of fuck-ups that led to Vince Young’s brief and only slightly illustrious career - a stubborn coach, an incongruous system, a thoughtless drafting pattern, and a still-maturing player.”
Blueshorn said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Between the WRs and the overall scheme, it’s a bit like asking a hobbled thoroughbred to run. I’m not too optimistic about Vince’s chances.
Confused and Dazed said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I don’t see much upside for Vince in this decision. Fisher’s team has completely quit on him (see Patriots game for reference) and their season and his future are in shambles. I mean you don’t tell your coach publicly who to start unless you’re Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones or Al Davis…well, and now Bud Adams. Fisher is gone based on this, either of his own choosing or Adams’, and Vince is being thrown into a situation that is a QB’s worse nightmare. I was hoping they’d leave him on the bench, and either trade him or find a coach who wants him around, which Jeff never has.
This is gonna just get uglier, IMO, which I hope is wrong. I just hope he doesn’t get injured.
texastough said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
“Fisher’s team has completely quit on him”
Therein lies the opportunity for VY to show his leadership. As freaky physically as he is, leadership may be his best attribute. It will show something if the Titans start coming to play.
I hope he makes the most of this opportunity, but I too am not that optimistic. One guy can carry a team in CFB but not the NFL.
Sailor Ripley said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:20 am
This is going to be ugly for all involved.
TaylorTRoom said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:34 am
That locker room was never going to accept an offensive player as a leader…which is fine with the coach. All you had to see was the way Bulluck reacted to Vince when he was playing well.
huge said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:46 am
remind me what bulluck did
uthookem said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Well, at least we’ll get to see Vince play. Unfortunately, it probably won’t be worth watching given the surroundings.
The Bobs said:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
yeah, hitch up a racehorse to a plow, then bitch about how badly the plowing is going…
The Tennessee decision-making on this whole thing the last few years is on a par with the college-version Tennessee’s decision-making on end-of-game clock and situation management this last weekend.
texastough said:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am
“That locker room was never going to accept an offensive player as a leader…which is fine with the coach. All you had to see was the way Bulluck reacted to Vince when he was playing well.”
That might change now that the team is 0-6. Not saying they will start winning regularly even if it happens, but I’d love to see the team at least respond to him. Thats when he’s at his best.
beowulf said:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Horrible offense for Vnce. Horrible coach for Vince.
ghostofagroundgame said:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:53 am
All of that being said, VY is still VY. For the brief period when they let him be who he is he only led the team to the playoffs. Maybe they’ll still stifle him — but maybe he’ll stifle Fisher and turn the team around. VY CAN play in the NFL, it’s just a matter of getting in the right system. 2-back sets with LenDale White and Chris Johnson can provide VY with the right set-up, it’s just a matter of Fisher letting him run the ball.
tree said:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Leadership isn’t about leading when things are going good. Leadership is how you lead when things aren’t going your way. Vince has usually had it go his way. Rarely has it not gone his way (on the field, before the pros). So I agree, Vince maybe done. Vince looked very average in preseason in his limited opportunities. For Vince to succeed there needs to be a great awakening (both with a coach and with Vince).
I love the quote by Jerry Glanville:
What does NFL stand for: Not For Long - Jerry said it to a ref who made a questionable call in Jerry’s eyes. I bet he told his players that a time or two. Well Vince Young is about to be NFL if things don’t change.
Doesn’t take away what he did for the Horns.
Still one of the most dominant college players ever. Close to as unstoppable as any player I have ever seen.
CurrentLonghornStudent said:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
In Vince I trust.
BTW, anyone have an informed opinion on how Vince would fare in a wildcat-type offense?
Confused and Dazed said:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I’d like to see Vince do well, and if they put him in there, nobody will be pulling harder for him than I will.
That stated, even if he was willing, Fisher isn’t going to change his offense in almost mid-season (only an offensive genius on the magnitude of Greg Davis can do that—insert smily face here— and Fisher wouldn’t know good offense if it bit him on the dick). Also, he can’t shit a good WR, so Vince, like Collins won’t have anybody to throw to.
Fisher knows he’s gone, and his players know it. He has been publicly neutered by his Owner. Most NFL coaches have massive egos, even the great ones. Fisher never wanted Vince to begin with. It was clear from his PC yesterday that he had no intention of playing Vince, and he will only do it now because his Owner has publicly ordered him to. Fisher learned at the feet of Buddy Ryan, who once tried to cold cock an OC because he didn’t like his play selection…on the fucking sideline during a game! My guess is you couldn’t measure the resentment he feels right now with a thousand mile telescope. In a way, I don’t blame him…Adams shouldn’t have gone public with this, but then he isn’t exactly a Rhodes Scholar either.
Look how long it took Tom Brady, one of the all-time greats, to get his true rythm back after a long layoff, in an offense tailor made for him, with a coach who believes in him and the entire preseason taking snaps as the starter in practice. Vince has seen virtually no real game action for a year, guys. Yeah, I hear all the stuff about how the tough get going, etc., but this is a horrible situation and it’s just gonna get uglier. If he succeeds, it’ll be a miracle (albeit not his first). If he fails, a more likely scenario IMO, he will be unfairly branded, perhaps for the rest of his career, as a poor QB in a league known for that kind of shit from the front offices. This is some bad Mojo, boys and girls.
God, I hope I’m wrong.
uthookem said:
October 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
“God, I hope I’m wrong.”
If there is one kid that can prove you wrong, it’s Vincent Young from Hiram Clarke.
trkhorn said:
October 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
What kind of different offense would work for Vince? There isn’t that much variety in the NFL… either a QB can pass from the pocket, or he probably won’t last. Even the great rushing QBs of recent NFL history - Steve Young, Randall Cunningham, McNair - were great passers to begin with. With what NFL team and/or offense would Vince thrive?
ghostofagroundgame said:
October 28th, 2009 at 9:28 am
trkhorn -
I think for VY to be effective you have to run an offense that moves the pocket around. He would kill in the offense Hasselbeck runs in Seattle, for example. VY out of the pocker — or even moving right or left in the pocket, breaks down coverage with his legs because someon has to spy or cheat. What the Titans do takes away what he is good at.
Homesick Alien said:
October 28th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Before the end of his career, I want one simple thing and one thing only for Vince’s career:
That he be allowed to play for a Head Coach who wants him.
That is all. And it would be all that was needed.
Jeff Fisher has possibly the most overinflated reputation of any Head Coach ever. Besides lasting 15 years for the cheapest owner in the NFL, what has he done to warrant all the “Jeff Fisher will have 20 NFL jobs waiting for him when he leaves Tennessee” talk?
Not disputing that there will be a long line of teams willing to hire him in the retread league, but what’s on his resume? A flukish Super Bowl and what else?
Homesick Alien said:
October 28th, 2009 at 11:41 am
ghost,
Seattle is where I’ve secretly been hoping he’ll end up.
Jim Mora was Vick’s coach for Vick’s best years and would likely be most willing among NFL Head Coaching brethren to unleash Vince to do what he does best.
Good to great receivers with Housh and Burleson.
I don’t know too much about their offensive line, but out of the situations out there, Seattle has looked to me the most appealing IF-and only if-Mora wants Vince. That’s the most important thing.
Hasselbeck can’t have too much longer left, and Seneca Wallace certainly isn’t the answer.