Show Me Hypocrisy

BUCKLEVISION

Where’s the Asset for more info on the matter, HayZeus? I need my weekly crack hit!

Showing HS games or portions of HS games is only wrong if you’re Texas.

Same thing with wanting to retain 3rd tier rights.

Asset report is coming, but it will be heavily redacted.

CBS Sports is reporting its official that TCU is coming into the Big 12 to replace the farmers.

I guess the reason it is okay for HS game highlights in MO is that they don’t have the same amount of talented, D1 kids besides DGB. Most of the kids that Pinkel wants are not in MO (except DGB), but rather in TX. Their KOMO would not reach Texas TVs while LHN does (eventually).
Do you think that Univ of MO living B12 would impact DGB’s decision to commit to them? What would the percentage for DGB coming to the good guys if MO goes to SEC?

Just imagine the howling at the J-school, if they had to restrict the content of their news cast. Love it.

And why doesn’t Pinkel just wear a fucking ballcap?

Pink likes to feel the cool breeze on his scalp, but NOT his forehead!

Mizzou has wanted out for a while, everything is just an excuse(same as Aggie) and Texas is just easy to blame though we have nothing close to wrong.
Mizzou doesnt really want $ec either, they have always wanted Big10.

I don’t like adding another Texas team to the Big 12. I feel we have enough of a presence in Dallas, need to continue to keep Houston/Golden Triangle so it doesn’t slip into $ec hands. I would like the Big 12 to expand its footprint, that is what realignment is about(sorry aggie and mizzou). I like the idea of USF/UCF to get Tampa/St Petersburg/Orlando and BYU. I think that would be very positive for Big 12.

Jesus Shuttlesworth said: October 6th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Asset report is coming, but it will be heavily redacted.

Do the full report. Save it. Redact it and post redacted version. After game post full report. That’ll be grand, thanks.

After game post full report.

yeah, i don’t care about okie state. doesn’t matter to me whether we beat them or not.

hey, why don’t you guys cook up a bunch of wrong information and then retract the entire post 45 minutes later with withering implication that asset is being handed his asset? a side benefit of the wrong information is that when none of it happens, bobby burton and about a million aggies go into cardiac arrest from the glee. win-win.

On December 21, 2025 KOMU-TV8 broadcast its signal for the first time. The station is a full-power NBC Affiliate operating as an independent commercial property. KOMU-TV8 is the only university-owned commercial television station in the United States utilizing its newsroom as a working lab for students. Recognized throughout the broadcast industry as the premiere training ground for television journalists, KOMU-TV8’s newsroom creates a real-life lab experience for students attending The University of Missouri prestigious School of Journalism.

http://www.komu.com/about-komu-8/

Out with farmers in with Christians – good move. plus they are Texas’ Christians.

Stoops and the Man (Gundy) wear visors, no? Hey, Stoops and the Man sounds like a good name for a bad cop tv show.

Texas is preventing Aggie from having a recruiting coup by making the arguement that “it’s better if kids in Texas get to play close to home, so their families and freinds can go to the game”. TCU – Good. UH – good. BYU – good (expanded fan base). BSU would be good for SOS for the Big XII. SMU-……..well…….ok…I guess……

The single most important variable in winning a national championship is recruiting. Texas was down in the later years of the SWC because in the new TV landscape there were too many state schools vying for the top talent. The Big 12 was the perfect situation for Texas because it reduced the in state competition and really left Texas, OU and AM to fight over top talent. The other non Texas Big 12 schools enjoyed increased Texas talent as well. Nebraska leaving will only hurt them as they will get fewer Texas kids moving forward. However, the AM move to the SEC will open up Texas kids to that conference. Admitting TCU will only further dilute the states top talent. In about 4 or 5 years you will see the impact on the field.

I agree with most of what you say, John C.

Where I don’t agree is the “in four or five years” . . . the recruiting of in-state talent may be more spread out in coming seasons, but I’d contend it doesn’t matter for Texas. If our staff does its job — if it locates the best players and develops them properly, it won’t make a lot of difference where the other kids go.

Might be better for us if, instead of being spread across 3-5 schools, that number is 10 or a dozen other programs. We have an edge in everything. The LHN can widen our advantage.

If the head coach and his assistants do their jobs.

In regards to A&M; opening Texas to the SEC don’t schools in the SEC freely come into Texas recruit? LSU, Arkansas, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, and UF off the top of my head have all come into Texas and taken out top talent.

The SEC is discussed on a regular basis on the radio in Houston, the LSU games are broadcast here, Miles does a morning show, and they get space in the paper. What new exposure are they going to get in this area they haven’t been getting for years?

Jophn C.
“there were too many state schools vying for the top talent.” PAYING for the top talent. SMU,OU, A&M;,OSU,TCU, Houston.
The kids you refer to are currently getting scholarships & many of them we already compete against. OU, OSU, K State, Iowa St, LSU all make a living in Texas.
edsp is correct. If we win, continue to strengten our brand & our coaches do thier jobs we’ll get most of the top talent we pursue. I’d rather a great talent goes to LSU or Alabama than OU or A&M; if we can’t get him.
I don’t think TCU makes the Big 12 stronger. It’s just the best of a bad lot. Of othe Big 12’s consideration too many are named for cities, not states, then there’s West Virginia.

Davey O.,
I live in DFW so I don’t hear as much about the SEC but I see your point about LSU in Houston. But doesn’t this help Bama, Florida and Auburn to have a game in Texas every few years?

Davey O’Brien said: October 6th, 2011 at 11:41 am
In regards to A&M; opening Texas to the SEC don’t schools in the SEC freely come into Texas recruit? LSU, Arkansas, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, and UF off the top of my head have all come into Texas and taken out top talent.

The SEC is discussed on a regular basis on the radio in Houston, the LSU games are broadcast here, Miles does a morning show, and they get space in the paper. What new exposure are they going to get in this area they haven’t been getting for years?

Aggies getting to chant “SEC…SEC…SEC!!!” while barely beating newly emerging UT-SA football team.

That UT-SA team then goes on a 3-year winning streak against A&M; after that, and then in a show of brethern schools, Hook’em Horns to rub it in their face.

Okay, my post submitted before I finished, f’n mouse pad.

Last part should read, " and then in a show of brethren schools, they throw a Hook’em Horns to rub it in their face."

I was just curious what the Asset had to say. You alluded to big announcements coming and I’m assuming TCU was it.

I was against TCU joining the league, but now I realize they will just siphon off the recruits that the land thieves usualy get from the DFW area. I can’t belive that ou even voted to allow TCU in.

I can tell it’s OU week Jesus cause you definitely have your dander UP
Right near time to…..
GET YOUR GAME ON

I guess I would shake my finger at Missouri if their NBC affiliate was called THE MISSOURI TIGER NETWORK and they advertised themselves as the go-to place for Mizzou sports and Mizzou fans and aired Mizzou programming 24/7.

Not the same thing as the LHN.

Nope. The state’s population has increased by almost 50% since the last days of the SWC. Reducing to 4 major in-state programs in 1994 improved recruiting, but growing from 18 million to 25 million means adding a 5th major will have little negative impact. 4/18 = 4.5, 5/25 = 5. (For our Tech readers, 5 > 4.5…)

Comparing BuckleVision with local channel 8 over the air in Columbia is absurd. I’d guess that many in Columbia, let alone recruits outside Columbia, have no freaking idea that NBC in Columbia is in any way affiliated with the university.

I’d venture to say that every NBC affiliate in the country shows local HS highlights.

The position that Mizzou is taking relative to BuckleVision is the exact same position that every conference that UT has tried to whore itself out to has taken – namely it’s not compatible with long term conference stability in a number of ways, HS content being only a small part of the problem.

Count,

Most of that population increase is probably Hispanic. Other than Espinoza do we have more than a couple contributors?

LHN is nothing like KOMU. KOMU is not branded entity and sole purpose is not to promote MU. Its a news outlet.

your Hypocrisy Argument holds no water.

your visor argument, though, is dead on.

TCU getting in the big 12 will hurt Gary Pinkels recruiting more than the LHN. He recruits south dallas. Those kids are now on Gary Pattersons List. LHN may never be available in that area.

I don’t think TCU makes the Big 12 stronger.

Wisconsin agrees. Keep TCU down there in Texas and let Wiscy have Nebraska.

B U C K L E V I S I O N ! ! ! ! !

Bucklevision.

Funny to read Mizzou fans accuse Texas of flipping up its skirt to other conferences. We’re wearing a branded cast-iron chastity belt with a tricky lock, and we swallowed the only key; y’all slipped your panties off in 2010 and haven’t bothered to wear them since.

The high school issue is moot anyways. If you don’t like it, you can ban it through the conference or the NCAA. Oh wait you did that already.

So where’s the beef? Sounds to me like Mizzou fan doesn’t want to admit that their administrators are just like all the others, willing to ply their own fanbase with fictional baseless outrage and trash their traditional rivalries for a few million bucks.

If the SEC wants you (still a big if), enjoy being a doormat and fighting with Kansas State and Kentucky for recruits. But hey, at least you’ll have road trips to Gainesville and Tuscaloosa.

“But hey, at least you’ll have road trips to Gainesville and Tuscaloosa.”
I’ve heard starkville is beautiful this time of year. Like Lubbock with more humidy…less tortillas

Dagga:

You seriously don’t believe that Texas was more than ready to go to the Pac10/12 last year and this if the LHN concept had been accepted? Please don’t insult this Mizzou fans intelligence. Look at your own site’s analysis of the LHN. It screams “we are gonna see if this works and if it does we have leverage and if it doesn’t we can go anywhere anyway”. Yet you want the other schools to stay?

MU has 2 exactly 2 B12 championships since it has been in the B12. Both are in Women’s sports. We know we are not relevant so why does anyone care where we go?

In my opinon, the only reason we are is because this conference is a shell of what it once was. With A&M; gone please tell me what the marquee matchups are outside of this weekend? MU/OU or MU/Texas? Sadly that is hardly marquee year in and year out.

Now I do think HCGP saw what the ESPN executive said about broadcasting national HS games featuring Texas recruiting targets and called it out. Having a single TV station broadcast high school football is hardly a nationwide network benefiting your athletic department and openly promoting the school. But I think HGCP is one of the few at MU thinking about the long term and not the difficulties of possibly being a mediocre football team for a while. Have SC and Ark really been damaged by moving to the SEC?

Then A&M; leaves. Now MU may (we screw everything up, so nothing is ever done with us) have an option for long term stability. I don’t believe all this talk of endless mediocraty etc. Recruiting has changed and I don’t see our Texas recruiting diminshed that much and it will be made up for by 1-2 kids from other areas plus keeping 1-2 more high D1 kids form our own state.

Don’t get me wrong. I think Texas is doing what is ( narrowly IMO but that is debateable), in its own self interest. If it was my school I would be happy as a clam. I do happen to think that if it cared about a long lasting B12 Texas would have pushed and gotten a B12 network last year during the B10 Fiasco. Would it have meant less revenue for Texas and less “longhorn” branding? Yes. Would it have secured the B12 for the long term? Yes. I know all the stuff about Tier1 and Tier2 and A&M;/Neb (MU has been for it even though it would be hurt) but if Texas, as the clear leader would have pushed it you would have been able to get it done. But you didn’t.

As an aside, DeLoss Dodd waiting for a phone call from UT doesn’t constitute a major investment. I chuckle every time I read this line about the Longhorn Net as if it toiled in some VC office park in Austin on shoestring budget for years and now UT is suddenly getting payback for the millions it invested. Even without ESPN would it have worked? Yes. Was it smart? Yes. But this is found money and nothing else.

Bash Pinkel all you want if it makes you feel better, but note that Deaton hasn’t said one word about LHN, etc.

Put yourself in our shoes. Do you really wait for Texas to prove or disprove the LHN and bolt or go independent and gamble on the SEC or B1G with the Big East or worse staring you in the face?

Do you seriously believe Texas and OU won’t leave MU high and dry at the first opportunity? I don’t and wouldn’t blame you if you did if we were dumb enough in 2011 not to see the B12 is doomed.

I know I’m in the minority but I still don’t get everyone’s (whether they be fans of Texas or any other school in the Big 12) argument that the Big 12 is done/doomed. The MAIN reason why the Big 12 would be doomed is because of the endless secession talk that makes it a grand CFB soap opera and self-fulfilling prophesy.

I believe that ego and power have played (are playing) as much of a role, if not a more important role, than money in this whole drama. A lot of people blame Texas for its ego, which certainly has a large element of truth to it. But let’s also agree that NU and A&M; left because of ego considerations and NOT just money and “stability” concerns. Former powerhouse football programs Nebraska and Texas A&M; saw their B12 football success decline significantly over the last decade, with NU’s last B12 championship coming in 1999 while A&M;’s was in 1998 (and Colorado’s in 2001). With UT and (especially) OU winning every Big 12 conference championship since 2002, it’s not surprising that fans and admins at NU and A&M; became fidgety and ready for any change to the status quo.

Hugh – last point first: do I believe UT and OU would leave you hanging? Well, that’s a pretty counterfactual, isn’t it? UT had a chance – several chances, actually – and each time they passed. And every step of the way – before, during, and after – they’ve said that staying in the Big 12 is the best option and we’re just setting up contingency plans.

Why do you think, if UT’s goal was to join another conference, that they’d create the LHN? Just to boost the realignment difficulty to Heisman level?

Don’t misunderstand: if the SEC calls you, by all means go. Your fanbase wants it. No one will step in your way.

But what I don’t want to hear from you folks is any accusations at Texas. We’re not the f*cking CIA running a puppet government in your homeland. We’re just a big school that smaller schools have a hard time competing with on a consistent basis.

Nebraska’s been pissed at us forever but every other school left the conference for their own self-gain and made up a bunch of bullshit about how Texas has been bullying everyone around to justify it. That worked for Nebraska, right? Except the only power Texas has ever had in this conference is because those other schools gave it to Texas. A&M;, OU, CU, OSU, all of ‘em. We were the puppet leader of a broad anti-Nebraska coup and despite all the money differences we’ve never played anything more than a symbolic role as power center of the conference. In reality – and I think facts support me on this one – we never had power over shit. And we’ve known that. From formation of the league to LHN, we ain’t done sh*t to piss off anyone, except win games.

But we accept a downright stunning and unexpected ESPN offer, some ESPN bigwig goes pontificating on the radio about high school games, and suddenly everyone throws a sh*tfit because for the first time Texas (or is it ESPN?) might be acting like it had actual independence in its decisions. The horrors! Nevermind that the money isn’t really a big deal compared to gross athletic revenues, or that Texas backed off on the high school games the very second that anyone made a fuss. Butbutbut it’s got a BRAND! And it’s ESPN! And uuhhhh….CONFERENCE GAMES NO ONE ELSE REALLY WANTS! And suddenly NU and Mizzou are showing arse to the Big Ten and Colorado’s packing its swimsuit and A&M;’s baking a cake for the SEC. Every feeler Texas has sent since then has been in response to other schools’ threats to leave. I defy you to produce a timeline that says otherwise.

Texas has now acceded to every single conference demand. Revenues are equally split, only one conference game on LHN with simulcasting on local networks for the away team, no high school TV games on LHN though any other school can do it as long as they don’t put their logo in the network brand, fine whatever. Agreed in hours without any fuss. We’ll stick with all of those commitments and stay in the conference for six years minimum; Mack volunteered 13.

So go if you can. But at least have the balls to admit that, like the other fleeing schools, you ARE the instability you’re puffing on so much about. You. Are. The. Instability. It’s because of schools just like yours that the conference was ever threatened in the first place. Y’all hiked up your skirts for other conferences last year, and now you’re all so afraid of each other leaving and blowing up the conference that you’re afraid if you don’t leave first, you’ll end up in the New Crappy Big East.

Well OK, that’s not the real reason for schools like A&M; or OU – for them it’s all just moneymoneymoney, paired with a ridiculous sense of self-importance that tells them that if THEY leave, the conference is done for – but for Mizzou, being stranded eventually is a legit concern. So…that’s fine. We’re cool. Just own up to it and stop pointing fingers at us like your lying bastard stepbrothers.

Rant-mode correction: yeah, I know the ESPN deal was signed AFTER the bullsh*t in 2010 between Mizzou, A&M;, NU and CU. But the “unequal revenue distribution” reasons those schools floated is just as much bullsh*t then as it would be today. UT made $140 mil last year, mostly off things like tickets and merch. Think a failure to share an extra 2-3 mil of TV revenue around was the reason those schools wanted to leave? Bullsh*t. Nebraska left because it’s wanted to leave since 1997. They blamed Texas because otherwise there’s no one to blame but themselves. And everyone else has been using Osborne’s tired excuses ever since, because fans (i.e., you) buy that crap.

Dagga Rooster – you nailed it.

Shit just got real.

Et tu, Hugh?