Mondays In the Humidor With The Big Cigar

Ye haaaaaaaaa.
Its see-garrrrr time.
purrfect timing JT
thanks…..

You brought it.

Boom! Now that’s a nice end to a Wednesday — er, I mean Monday!

Please send many thanks the Cigar’s way.

Well…if “helicopter dad” wasn’t aware of the coaching staff’s annoyance. I guess he is now, or soon will be.

Thanks, JS.

Hey is
looks like the shit stirring from last spring thru this fall at qb along with some other position politics is over with.
Diaz &the; Harsin impress me as the kind to tell the boss bullshit on such stuff.
and it appears Mack is listening.
Thanks for the update..

Great report!! Has me very excited!!
Close practice to everyone if you have to.
Personally, we need this offseason to weed out all the players, families, water boys, etc who are not all in. Get the F out!

Very VERY excited about Coleman!! Great Athlete!!
We need an OL, specifically a OT. Personally if Hawkins (the Juco) is more ready now, im all for it!!
Nice to hear Seals thinks that Peat can play soon.
My Dream is DGB!!

I think we are very Talented and Young on D. I think Cobbs is going to have a good game on Sat. He needs to. He might be 1 of the 2 LBs on the field and can allow us to go from 4-3 to Nickel without substitution.

Thanks for the report!! Ill look for another one soon, every few days right!! Haha!!

Also, if Connor Brewer is reading this….PLEASE call DGB and get TGOD on him!! DGB is the the WR position what JG is to the BR position!

This is much better than the *BREAKING NUGGETS OF GOLDEN DOO DOO* as reported first by other folks.

I much prefer less BS, more real information, and I saved 9.95.

p.s. Ubben has no neck and he really looks like a damn Ninja Turtle that wasnt good enough to get super powers other than a fluffer. (sorry bothered me, nothing to see here, carry on)

I’ma hafta graba kleenex now..so glad to hear the underlying bs from players (and parents) that have been holding teams of recent past back, are either: stepping up their game big time, or stepping out the door!

Hook ’Em \m/

It’s almost like I’m sitting on the veranda at Hotel Nacionale with a glass of Havana Club. Good stuff.

Great read. As usual.

Nice.

I didn’t feel like there was a ton of bad news in that report.

KU certainly shot themselves in the foot on offense this Saturday, but Texas’ defense made some nice plays.

I think if you put together the top 5 plays of the game, 4 were made by defensive players. Not too shabby, considering the number of snaps they had to defend and the disparity between KU’s offense and defense. Of course, our offense is still a work in progress. . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7zKdjCkcec

It will be interesting to see how our run game looks over the next few games. . . .

OK. That was so good, I had to re-read it. If the entitlement mentality actually is changing, then maybe Mack can pull this thing off. Could it be that Mack is actually putting results above feelings?

“Attrition. The staff is encouraging it.”

Do you people actually realize what we are seeing here? This is a monumental paradigm shift that I, for one, never believed that Mack could pull-off. Nothing in Mack’s tenure here would have ever evidenced this. I know that we are a long way from where we need to be, but this is a huge leap for Mack. I’m going to withhold judgement until I see more, but Mack allowing his staff to push dead weight out of the nest just blows my mind — in a good way!

Now let’s see if we can land some whales to re-load the roster.

Kudos on this step Mack. I didn’t know you had it in you.

Well, it doesn’t get much plainer than that. While it bothers me that Mack needed two consultants and a new staff for him to figure out that the shit that was happening was bad, I’m glad to see it being discontinued and will take it any way I can get it.

The new attriition is not a bad thing either. I don’t look for it to be a trend because I think we’re going to have a culture going forward that won’t encourage lazy talent evaluation and development. I look at it as a one-time purge that needs to happen. I think we all knew the additional QB offer was because we are thin there, but I’m gratified to know it was also, as your friend says, to send a message to certain people that we won’t be held hostage by them.

Glad to see the enthusiasm about our defensive talent and that the staff has very high expectations over there. Nice way to end a Wednesday evening before hitting the rack.

Thanks a ton, JS!

JS what’s your take on a kid like Arik Armstead? Do you think Texas has a good shot at landing him.

For the players who don’t have a chance to play, going to another school is best for them and also best for UT.

Great news that Cobb is healthy for Tech. Thought that maybe he was a little dinged up.

RB 1A is transferring? how does that affect our DE depth?

i kid, but please tell me this isn’t mean joe.

Thanks for the report, gentlemen. Always an interesting read.

He was alluding to Shead.

Wow, i didn’t know we were still legitimately in the running still for DGB… i keep hearing its between Bama and the land thieves. 40%? shoot i’ll take those odds for sure.

i think Cobbs is a perfect LB for spread teams and Edmond against running teams. Great versatility with the LB corps.

the real question is what would pear shaped chip brown do?

Looks like Mack is wiling to do what it takes to get back to the promise land. I am impressed that he is doing what he is doing. I kind of like Mack 2.0.

I’m kind of sad that Case can’t fight his own battles. I think the kid has talent. Just wish he would stop complaining and but his money where his mouth is. Do what it takes to improve your arm and what not. Ash definitely seems like a better leader than both Case or GG.

El Cohiba Grande brings only the best news.

Gracias!

“This s*** didn’t happen at Boise”

I’m pretty surprised by this. I though that parents hounding coaches about their kids PT happend a lot at about every college in the country and as well as pretty much every TX High School.

I’m not saying that its right for parents to dog coaches about PT. I just find that comment interesting.

I jizzed.

Petey -
 
Read it again.

alpahydro,

Great highlight clip, thanks!

I noticed is that Goodwin runs the ball with really long strides, even in traffic. Better to shorten those strides until he breaks open.

Some of the sideways passes by Ash are laterals, not forward passes. When Ash is under center, he will really have to be careful about throwing inadvertent laterals, if the ball is not caught, it is a fumble.

Scipio Tex,

Thanks for the response.

It does make sense and I get the point after I read the whole thing again.

Thanks for the report.

Not to piss in the punchbowl, but:

“In fact, I’m more worried about those on the staff who are annoyed with the constant carping from a certain camp about why they think their son should play. And they’re annoyed, make no mistake. This shit didn’t happen at Boise and the few returning coaches have voiced their dissatisfaction with it happening at Texas. It’s sort of galvanized the offensive staff but it needs to end quickly. The head guy needs to end it.”

Can be read a couple of different ways and one of them, the most pessimistic, is that Harsin is getting sick of the way things are run here and that could become a serious problem if Mack doesn’t do something. That’s not really great news, IMO.

that’s reading a while lot into it, toadvine. if Mack keeps him happy wrt all of that sort of stuff I don’t see it as a real reason for a gripe.

kicker… are we talkin will russ? because ben pruitt is a walkon. why would russ leave? jtucker is a senior anyway.

Good information JS. The battleship is gathering speed.

Wow, I’m actually discouraged by Mack allowing the McCoy camp and other parents to run wild within the program.

BTW, have you guys heard anything about one of our OL commits possibly decommitting? A poster on OB made a comment on the board the other day stating that one of our guys wouldn’t make it in this class and that it’s just a matter of time. He wouldn’t say who he was referring too, but made also stated that if you’ve been following recruiting, you could figure it out. With that said, I’m assuming he’s talking about Estelle since he’s the only one that has had some rumors attached to him in the past about possibly taking visits to other school.

OB is a legitimate source now?

Thanks, JS for this report. I’m encouraged with the change of culture in the program and I hope that Mack puts an end to “helicopter dad’s” interference.

I am just amazed that Shead is not getting a chance to show what he can do. Record-setting rb in high school, everyone recruited him, and he can’t even get a sniff of a carry in live action? Really? It’s not like we are some kind of juggernaut offense here. It’s likely a 6-6 or 7-5 team that desperately needs points and yardage. If it’s due to what they are seeing in practice then you have to ask what the basis was for recruiting him in the first place.

I kind of agree about Shead. Especially since I thought they were looking at working him at H-back?

RS,

Who among Brown (4.8 ypc), Fozzy (5.5), Bergeron (7.2), Monroe (7.8) and Goodwin (9.8) would you take carries from and give to Shead? We have talent issues on this team (OT, DT) as well as depth issues (WR) but RB is one of the deeper positions. I trust that Shead has gotten a chance to show what he can do in practice and the players I list have beat him out.

Terrific report from El Cohiba, JS. Doesn’t get much plainer than that. I like the direction of the program and agree that it is good that this information gets out.

What’s amazing is that Mack needs to be told that this behavior is unacceptable and counterproductive.

Not sure that this is the correct spot for this question, but how good is Cochran? I’ve been quite impressed.

p.s. Ubben has no neck and he really looks like a damn Ninja Turtle that wasnt good enough to get super powers other than a fluffer. (sorry bothered me, nothing to see here, carry on)

Chip, It’s reassuring to know that I’m not the only one bothered by this..LOL!

Great read, JS…many thanks to yourself and the Big Cigar.

Great stuff, JS! If it’s the case that reporting on Case from this site is diffusing across the horn fan-osphere to the extent that Mack has been embarrassed, I see that as a good thing. Good shit happens when Mack is embarrassed!

Well, if one of them is Brad McCoy this is a relatively new problem. It would have been dang hard to have coached Jim Ned and then Graham and been in Austin at the same time.He retired after Case graduated. Must be several helicopter dads to deal with. Could some of these transfers be taking some helicopter dads with them? Good riddance.

“What’s amazing is that Mack needs to be told that this behavior is unacceptable and counterproductive”

Which is exactly why I think most of this is BS. Mack will not change. Did you guys happen to catch the OU game this year?
The day Mack leaves is the day this culture changes. Don’t believe me? Just wait until the A&M; game and get back to me.

Nice and entertaining piece. I just hope it’s a lot more accurate than the one leading up to OU

Great report.

Tongue in cheek, it appears the problem with recruiting “Mack Brown kids” is you get “Joe McCoy parents”.

If you had gone with the Baby and Johnny Castle analogy, would ECG have understood?

I’m not a fan of attrition for the sake of attrition (the binding scholarship should be a two-way street, imo), but if you’re not giving 100% and griping behind the scenes, there’s a problem. Will be interesting to see if/when the new scholarship rules are implemented, how that affects CFB recruiting.

Frank, have you been watching A&M; lately? Their coach needs to be a little more like Mack and hire a OC. They have some problems, on both sides of the ball. Kind of hard to see the whole game when your head is stuck in the offensive playbook.

Unfortunately, when you have a lot of coaches just collecting checks and trying to hold on until they retire their laziness slowly corrupts the entire system. They start to make “deals” to get the “top” players rather than get out on the recruiting trail and actually find the players who not only look good on film but have the passion to be the best regardless of the competition.
We continue to feel the adverse effects of lazy recruiters, poor coaching and player development, and deals with parents.
Let the purge begin and let’s get guys who aren’t afraid of competing.
Thanks JS

Mack may find that he done fucked up and created a juggernaut. For real this time.

Makes me sad about Shead, given his unmitigated horn loyalty, even in the face of the governor. Hate to lose kids like that.

Otherwise, I’m with burntorangejuice: good things do happen when Mack’s embarrassed. Seems like some of the new coaches don’t feel the need to defer to him like others did. The culture of the program appears to have changed.

With Toadvine and a few others — too many posters are reading this report as all positive, no? Sounds more “wait and see”. Some encouraging signs, some worrisome. Suspect it’s the position coaches pushing the needed attrition, while the HC is still putting up with entitlement b.s. from other quarters.

Anonymous takes are so full of win… so if the Big Cigar doesn’t care about the heat, why don’t you ask him if he will let you post his name? I’d be very disappointed to find out (s)he’s a trainer…

… is this where I’m supposed to bash IT/OB/JScar/UT/Yahoo/ESPN now?

Max
Cochran is a guy that was pushed into action before his upper body was fully developed. He is good now and plays with enthusiasm which seemed to ignite the whole line. This guy keeps his feet apart and plays smart. If his upper body develops to match his ass and legs, you are looking at a future tackle in the NFL.

Frank
As bad as the Oklahoma score was, this team showed heart. Some can only see the score.
We will be here waiting for you come AM and we will send your Aggie butts packing with buckshot to SEC SEC SEC. Later AGGIE

Jesus,
  Many, many thanks to you & TBC. Terrific read.

I agree with Last Week said " What’s amazing is that Mack needs to be told that this behavior is unacceptable and counterproductive."

This new staff mindset seems counter intuitive to Mack. The whole “family atmosphere”, Ms Sally’s cookies, bled for the program seems to be Mack’s comfort zone and anti accountability but he commited to change. What is unclear to me is why we still have the issues described by TBC if that commitment is total. Can’t Mack draw a line in the sand?

It’s not like we are some kind of juggernaut offense here. It’s It’s likely a 6-6 or 7-5 team that desperately needs points and yardage

Yes, and if the situation is so dire during this next brutal 4 out of 5 losing streak you are certain of that the 1000-yard freshman running back, the senior speedster having his best season, the senior short yardage specialist, the other freight train of a freshman, and the track star can’t get yards and points, the answer is clearly the 5th string running back.

The stupid is seeping out of your cortex onto internet. Please stop.

The culture of the program does not get fixed until Mack retires. We have a brief period of real football culture but the second one or two of these coaches leaves laziness and entitlement will return and we will be right back in the ditch again.

I went to one closed practice this fall. Case’s father was there and he was actively on the sidelines, instructing players and acting as a de facto coach. I asked the AD liaison chick who escorted me to the practice which one of the new coaches that was. She whispered politely that he was not a coach but a player’s dad.

WTF.

Nothing has really changed despite whatever sunshine you want to believe. There is a temporary mindset change at the assistant level and that is it. From the top the organization is still the old program it was during 5-7. Any temporary change in MO with recruiting or any other issue is fleeting and we will return to your normal scheduled programming shortly.

Why not set up sling boxes at all the parents’ houses and stream the LHN into their living room so they can watch the practices on TV?

FYI – It’s not just you fools I am straigtening out regarding Mike F’ing Sherman

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1960046&forum;_id=5

I was thinking the same thing regarding two parent households. Maybe kids raised by grandmothers are worth taking a second look at. No dad at home=No dad on sideline. Heck, if it wasn’t for Brewster’s begging, we wouldn’t have won the 2005 MNC because a certain someone who was raised by grandmama wouldn’t have even been on our roster.

One thing that always bothered me from the Bama Title game: The shots of Colt with his dad. I was thinking wtf is his dad doing down there. Then after the game, Mack made some comment about Colt’s dad saying he couldn’t go back in. Again, wtf? He should have had no say in the matter. It should have been Colt and the training staffs/doctor decision. I’m not sure that I have ever understood that whole situation and I hope that I am wrong in having doubts about how it all went down.

Newy25, interesting post. We’ll have to see if the will of the assistant coaches wins out over Mack’s “family atmosphere.” How many more years do you think Mack stays?

I’m thankful we didn’t read a reference to Darius White. The kid came in as a raw technician with intense athleticism. Not like I’m an expert, but two full years of retraining (from head to hands to feet) seems to be about right for this guy, before anyone can tell whether he’s up to the job at WR.

I’d like to think there’s still hope for DW in this offense, with this set of coaches.

Thanks for the updates!

“Frank, have you been watching A&M; lately? Their coach needs to be a little more like Mack and hire a OC. They have some problems, on both sides of the ball. Kind of hard to see the whole game when your head is stuck in the offensive playbook.”

Thanks kind of my point. Even with A&M;’s current issues I fully expect them to embarrass us this year. Mack will not have these kids ready for that atmosphere.
Mack’s done great things here. He brought us from mediocrity to the most valuable college football program in the country but it’s time he rode off into the sunset.
Most people want to give him one more year to right the ship and I guess that’s fair considering what he’s done for the program. I may disagree but I can certainly understand why people feel he deserves time to right the ship.

Frank
Looks like I had missed what you were saying. Sorry.

There is less than 0% chance that DeAires Cotton transfers. If the Big Cigar was really as plugged in as he claims, he would know what’s really going on with that situation.

That TexAgs post is the first thing I have read to make me wonder whether AggieRick is less the postmodern genius that I have long believed him to be and more just a typical crazy Aggie. Poor showing Rick. Except the double Whoop, which is fantastic.

thecontractor said:

November 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 pm

Also, if Connor Brewer is reading this….PLEASE call DGB and get TGOD on him!! DGB is the the WR position what JG is to the BR position!

And tell the old man to stay home.

Mack has always believed that unconditional loyalty is a good thing. If he learns that loyalty must be continually earned rather than mindlessly doled out then this program will move forward.
Fat, lazy, entitled coaches attract and breed fat, lazy, entitled players.
The coaches we have now will turn this program around. I think they are teaching Mack.

“This shit didn’t happen at Boise….”

Is this a hint to your source?

I guess too am a little surprised that the “Entitlement” problem is still in the beginning stages of correction. I didn’t expect it to be done. I figured a majority would buy-in immediately, some would take time to win over, and a small minority would never get it and graduate/leave.

Mack better do everything he can (within reason, for the betterment of the team) to make the new coaching staff happy. If Harsin is annoyed or frustrated with “Coaches on the Sidelines”, then Mack needs to go tell the parties involved that practices are closed to parents/hangers-on/etc. and be done with it.

Honestly, Case will be better off without his dad whispering discontentment in his ear. And the team will definitely be better off.

One surprise about attrition is why no OL names floating around? This seemed to be the position most poorly recruited the last 5 years, so why are none of them getting the message?

Intriguing & provocative. What else is to develop through the halls of Bellmont this Fall? Tune in again next week to… As the 40 Acres Turns!!

Ha, just kidding. Good stuff JS. Looking forward to the next episode.

Can’t believe Mack lets these fathers walk all over him. Too much politics involved. Tell Brad McCoy to take his son and go bother Abilene Christian University next season. Just makes me want Ash to succeed even more.

In that Youtube highlight video posted earlier in this thread, watch the block Mike Davis throws on the QB scramble around 1:27. Naaasty.

good report

Sodium,

Okay, what’s really going on with that situation?

sodium, the cigar just mentioned Cotton when talking attrition, not that Cotton would go to another school. He’s not even practicing any more in any real sense of the word. Bible is kind of in the same boat.

"Toadvine said:

November 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 am
Can be read a couple of different ways and one of them, the most pessimistic, is that Harsin is getting sick of the way things are run here and that could become a serious problem if Mack doesn’t do something. That’s not really great news, IMO."

You know, some guys would look at this glass and they would say, “That glass is half empty.” Other guys would say,“That glass is half full”. I peg you as a “glass is half empty” kind of guy. Am I right?

Too bad that Shead hasn’t worked out to this point. He is a classic case of being a big fish coming from a small pond(1A school). But, now he finds himself competing against bigger, faster, more talented players. Wonder what must be going through his mind, poor kid. Talk about self-assessment and self-evaluation. Feel bad for him and his family. Must be disheartening. I hope he truly finds himself and success elsewhere and that he realizes his true potential. Wish him the best.

Hey, I had petitioned for Hills to play against Kansas and he sure did. Thanks Harsin-White.

Case, well, I’m sure he is already starting to reach for his suit-case. With Ash beating him out, at least for the moment. And with the 2012 QB’s heading this way months from now, he knows he has to transfer if he wants to have a starting job somewhere. But, he is just going to have to find a smaller, less competitive school. I still say he should consider a USA, WAC, or MAC school. I feel bad for Colt though. He must feel a bit hurt and let-down by how things went down for his little bro even if Case is partially to blame. Either way, best wishes to him as well. But like I said before, he shouldn’t have been offered a scholly at Texas in the first place.

Wow – it has been broughten.

Terrific read and a lot of meat on this one – glad to hear that more of the program’s problems are being dragged into the light and dealt with.

When you are broken, mangled and sepsis has set in, modern medicine can still heal you – but it can’t just slap you in a bacta tank and have you strong enough to pull the ears off a gundark two days later. 5-7 was no mirage – the mirage was most of 2008-09 as Colt’s leadership (elite), broken play ability (impressive given that he had nowhere near VY’s physical gifts) and accuracy (literally unprecedented in college football history) papered over decline, disease and rot in so many areas. Scheme is largely fixed, development (both positional and physical) is on the right track, and entitlement is on the run, but if you’re disappointed that the pace of this turnaround is going too SLOWLY I’m honestly intrigued by what your expectations were and if you have examples of similarly broken systems being 100% fixed in a shorter time frame.

Good tidbits on the recruiting front as well – I was certainly less optimistic than 60% on Peat given some of the recent tidbits that have floated re: casualness towards an official visit, but I like Searels’ chances if we can get him to swing by the 40. Also happy that we’re still reasonably in the mix for DGB – I’m preparing myself for him to go elsewhere, but will be happy if it’s not OU and will go straight up berserk if he becomes a Horn.

Keep preachin’, JS.

By the way, we’re actively recruiting a kicker named Nick Rose as a preferred walk on to take over kickoffs and perhaps punts next season. Nick Jordan is probably going to place kick for us. Will Russ has been horrible and we’re looking for answers.

http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/11/01/id-prefer-a-walk-on-nick-rose-deep-kicker/

TDL —

I am just not convinced that MB can do what needs to be done once the heat is off a bit. I hope so.

What I will never understand is how Mack has needed MULTIPLE consultants/coaches etc to point out the obvious to him? Some say- well he was winning alot of games, but who in their right minds couldnt see that entitlement, lazy recruiting, clearly poor player developement, parents on the sideline, promising players PT cant be good for a program? I cant help but think, no VY and mack wouldnt still be here….

“kemit said:

November 3rd, 2011 at 7:03 am

"This shit didn’t happen at Boise…."

Is this a hint to your source?"

The “I’m too old” [for this shit] comment leads me to believe it’s Detective Roger Murtaugh

Funny that many fans want one of the winningest coaches in program history to now retire. They sure loved the streak of double digit-win seasons that even Bear Bryant never equaled. Believe it or not, Mack knows how to coach a football team better than anyone here.

I get what you are saying, it’s hard to believe an old guy can just change so much in such a short period of time. I think right there is where people are going wrong here. It is a short period of time and we haven’t had a chance to completely purge the old ways. Some of it will take a little time. I hope moving forward Mack has learned some lessons. He’s shown a capacity for change in the past. We can all learn every day of our lives if we are open to it.

also, I couldn’t pass up a chance at a Groundhog Day reference.

One surprise about attrition is why no OL names floating around

Look at the depth chart. Not a whole lot of guys with more than 1-2 years in the program who aren’t doing anything, and those that there are are seniors.

“…those on the staff who are annoyed with the constant carping from a certain camp about why they think their son should play. And they’re annoyed, make no mistake. This shit didn’t happen at Boise and the few returning coaches have voiced their dissatisfaction with it happening at Texas. It’s sort of galvanized the offensive staff but it needs to end quickly. The head guy needs to end it.”

Who the heck is he referring to with all of these enigmatic references (wink wink nudge nudge)?

As far as I am concerned, Mack is an Old Dog who HAS learned some New Tricks. The culture is changing.

Rather than piss and moan about the Way Things Were Done, it’s time to pay attention to How Things Are Being Done.

I LOOVE the reference to “the old regime.” That says it all about the seismic shift in the program.

Major Applewhite, at some point in the future, should be canonized. I have little doubt that he has been an important factor in Mack’s transformation. Mack trusts him and respects him. Due to the influence of 5-7, The Major, and the Outside Consultants, the Phoenix is Rising.

Revolutions can happen quickly, but the vestiges of the Ancien Regime take some time to excise, O ye impatient Sapients of Internetstan.

It’s tough for me to get a read on Peat. It seems like he’s telling every school what they want to hear. Florida State premium sites are intimating he’s a silent to FSU and it sounds like Stanford likes their chances as well.

Good stuff JS Hat tip to El Chiba Grande

Can we look forward to a practice report coming soon? I watched both days of practice on LHN and noticed that Shipley was absent, both days (probably resting that injured gumby knee) and that Cobbs now has a cast up to his forearm. I hope it’s in the ilk of the Christian Scott “club” cast & he can still play this weekend. We’ll definitely need him at the hybrid S/OLB position.

Kudos to Aggie Rick for a brilliant piece of sarcasm on the Aggie board. That is Jonathan Swift stuff. The best part is the Aggies think he’s serious.

So the Big Cigar doesn’t recognize a Breaking reference? Just lost all credibility with me. He could have at least taken a stab at it with a muffled GoBots comment. I would have given him partial credit.

We are indeed seeing a huge shift in the Mack Brown machine. We’ve always had a sort of feel good trap door hear with Mr. Rogers manning the lever, but probably nothing like what’s about to happen on the 40 acres. Hell, I still stunned that we’re actually looking at a JUCO answer at need position.

I like it. This staff wants to win and soon. A four year rebuild is not in their plans.

I’ve always wondered if Mack has actually ever been on this site before…he’s bound to chuckle at all the guys here who fancy that they know what is best for each player and coach. Everyone we get any info from on here is anonymous. The writers here are still riding their momentum from breaking the coaching changes. We haven’t really gotten anything great since that has been verified. Some things have even been reported late. I mean, when I get a story from Hook’em Report before the Cosm or Carnival, I lose some confidence.

Can’t wait until McCoy transfers at the end of the season. He should have never been brought in in the first place, not a Big 12 QB. From now on we should only recruit players who a) understand that they have to earn their place, b)se parents have a day job, c) are either as top class QB prospects or, d) a good Dual threat QB who can move to other positions. Any player who has the mind set that 1st back up is not good enough we don’t want. I have no problems with Connor wood as he was 4th on the depth chart, and Gilbert needed a fresh start. McCoy has had more chances than he has earnt due to circumstances and needs to look at himself in the mirror and ask what he can do to win the position of F off. This whole co-starting QB is is clearly BS to appease him and his father. If they are convinced by that they are stupider than they are entitled. Grow some balls Mac.

That little twitter fracas you had with Chip Brown is pretty awesome in light of this post. Thanks for the report.

If we go over 500 against TT, Mizzou, K-State, Aggie, and Baylor – I will be so happy that I would kiss Bevo’s arse from trailer to the south end zone. But I don’t see it. All can and hang 30+ on our defense and I just don’t see us keeping up. We can rave about Ash potential – but he flat out is not good enough right now to keep the defense honest. All will scheme to sell out to the run and daring us to pass.

Shouldn’t McCoy the Elder be in Cleveland? Seems like THEY need some help!!

Lot of hate there, Pistol. It’s just a game, man. It’s not life or death.

As a side note, Case still hasn’t thrown an interception, and Ash seems to be developing a knack for it.

Practicing at H-Back is the first step on the road to transfering.

Any chance we get a read from the BIg Cigar on what the staff thinks about the development of Ash. Although, I suspect the next 5 weeks will answer all of our questions. Would any of our fellow commentators care to inform me who these parents could be? Obviously, Mccoy would be one.

I am not sure any of our remaining opponents can score 30+ on our defense. Only OU and OSU have managed that feat and both had the advantage of our offense being completely in flux. If our O and special teams don’t give up points and/or field position I like our D to hold most of these teams below 30. I think A&M; is the only one I would give a greater than 50% chance of being able to do it. The problem is that our O is going to have trouble getting to 30 on any of these teams. I would give our best shot of that happening to our next game and to Baylor. The middle three are the most likely to keep us under that.

Unless our O really takes off and/or our D really builds off of what they did to Kansas, I see a lot of close games in our future.

It seems that Mack isn’t the only dog having to learn new tricks. Some of the Mack haters can’t give him any credit for the positives that are going on around here. Some want to make 5-7 the defining season of Brown’s career as a coach and can’t let go of their (righteous) ire from the last two years. Brown has shown over the years that he does self-evaluate and does make changes. If you’re going to damn him for 5-7, you must also give him credit for all the changes he’s made since then that are pointing us in a good direction.

I wonder if the “family” atmosphere was always a balance of Mack’s avuncularity weighed against tougher approaches used by the assistants. As the former staff got lazy, the system went out of balance to the avuncular side of the scale.

Wow, loved this report.

I’m happy that El Cohiba understands that airing dirty laundry works in the favor of the program. Plus, all of this attrition is coming from non-contributors. Just peachy.

I appreciate all the work on this site – it is absolutely must read for the Longhorn fan. But I personally believe that the University, staff, and supporters have to promote a classy image of the program. I am fine with a MNC appearance every 5 years with class, as opposed being an Alabama or LSU where you get 2 every 5 years and over recruit and force kids out of the program at a 25% clip. I do not see where the BC shines favorably on the image of Texas football when an anonymous source cites anonymous parents and basically calls them a-holes. Now everyone assumes Brad McCoy is the “A-hole guy” – even though he and Colt were very classy representatives of the University for 5 years. Not very courageous. The comments on Shead (et al) also damage the ability to stay classy at UT. He cannot help that he was at a 1-A program and that he got offered. If he is doing his work in the classroom, and able to contribute on the football field – and never be a superstar – ok with me. I remeber thinking why did we recruit Chris OB – didn’t have the measurables – but he is one classy UT grad.

Cooler Head is either:

A) In the McCoy Clan
B) An Aggie Troll
C) A general ’Cosm sniper
D) a hybrid of all 3!

The difference between 247 and here is:
On 247, you’ve got a Staff of guys whose J-O-B it is to break timely recruiting and team info (Thus, the 9.95 price tag, which I pay btw).

On the ‘Cosm/BC these guys provide FREE & accurate info, that may not be of the most timely nature. It doesn’t mean that it’s not insider info, relevant, or worthy of reading. IMO it’s all friggin 3!

Instead of sniping on this FREE site, go elsewhere if all you’ve got is negative shite to type.

Hahahahahaha! Aggie Rick that might be the best thing ever you dropping those stats on a Aggie message board! And to think for so long I actually thought you were an Aggie. Priceless

Defenses usually come together a lot faster than offenses. I think you guys have a good shot at running the table, given there are no more teams from Oklahoma on the schedule.

The games might all be 20-19 scores, though.

Griffin collapses against good cornerbacks.

Hit Tech in the mouth more than once and they suck Tuberville’s thumb.

Missouri spends all their time on Expedia.

Snyder can’t run on a loaded box, and doesn’t have the horses to go vertical.

Aggies are in some kind of wormhole, where 30 minutes is an hour. They’ve done a great job of learning how to lose from behind, which I guess sets them up well for their SEC transition.

The Alamo Bowl ain’t bad, and your young ’uns can use the extra work.

“I remeber thinking why did we recruit Chris OB – didn’t have the measurables – but he is one classy UT grad.”

He’s also drawing an NFL paycheck, so he couldn’t have been that terrible of a recruit.

With regard to DGB, I don’t know how much more simple the recruiting pitch must be:

“Come to Austin, a city with fantastic weather and great entertainment/lifestyle, see the field and be an impact player from DAY 1 (see Shipley, Davis, Brown, Ash), be revered by hundreds of thousands of fans the world over (see VY), thrive in a system where the OC has a history of showing he can scheme to score a ton of points, train in world class facilities, be followed around by your own mini ESPN network, and almost certainly win a title by playing alongside other future legends like JGray”

Oh, and not that it matters too much to a future NFLer but get a degree from a school that ranks in the top 10 in the country for most programs (unlike Mizzou, OU, Bama, etc)

realmccoy:
“If we go over 500 against TT, Mizzou, K-State, Aggie, and Baylor – I will be so happy that I would kiss Bevo’s arse from trailer to the south end zone. But I don’t see it. All can and hang 30+ on our defense and I just don’t see us keeping up.”

Texas shut out KU, which had been averaging about 25 points per game against the following good competition:
Georgia Tech 24
Texas Tech 34
Oklahoma State 28
Oklahoma 17
Kansas State 21

Shutting out KU was impressive. The horns are playing many young players and have completely new systems on offense and defense. It was expected that the horns would improve quite a bit as the season progressed and the young players gained experience in the new system and div 1 level football and that seems to be what is happening.

The offensive numbers were not as impressive for the horns vs KU but it is clear that Harsin has constructed an efficient inside power/outside speed rushing attack. Harsin has also rolled out a short passing attack that looks promising. Harsin’s current offense is much less demanding of the QB than it was earlier in the season and Ash looked very comfortable in the new offense (albeit vs a very poor KU D). My guess is that UT will be competitive in all the remaining games. We’ll know a lot more after the Tech game (which I think Texas wins). My gut feel is that Texas will continue to improve and win at least 3 more games this season. Maybe the single biggest factor will be how many turnovers Ash commits.

Arriviste, I’m kind of a dick today.

Best D in the conference?

Obviously whichever of your personalities that watched the ou and osu game were obviously high as a kite.

Gosh thank you Aggie Rick for the best laugh I’ve ever had! If you havent read the Aggie board Aggie Rick posted check it out! Guy might be a genius, and the funniest part is that half the Aggies believe him!

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1960046&forum;_id=5

RS, I believe the point is that we’re pretty fucking loaded at RB. And when Shead is behind Brown, Fozzy, Bergeron, Monroe, and Jeremy Fucking Hills, and we’re producing like we are from the RB position, I’m not sure how you can fault our coaches for not playing him.

Won’t get any better for him next year either.

Perhaps we should hire Leach the pirate as a “special liaison” to helicopter parents and their kids.

I think he said most talented D unit in the conference. There’s a difference; look again.

real mccoy, this isn’t an LSU or Bama situation where we’ve over recruited and are kicking out or encouraging guys to leave just because of it. And I haven’t seen anyone on this site encouraging that attitude, so I’m not sure what you’re getting at there? It appears to be both performance and attitude based and needed, right now, to right a program that went off track and let those who remain know there’s a meritocracy in place. I doubt seriously that Taylor Bible’s situation has anything to do with an oversigning issue. Perhaps it’s an overweight and under motivated stuation, eh?

You know, some guys would look at this glass and they would say, "That glass is half empty." Other guys would say,"That glass is half full". I peg you as a "glass is half empty" kind of guy. Am I right?

Sighhhh… your dependency on binary logic is going to get you in real trouble someday. There is at the very least a third choice: the glass looks to you to be twice as big as it really is.

Kafka -
Agree wholeheartedly that the KU performance was outstanding, and I hope that the performance carries over. It just seems to me that in the college game, the offenses are very difficult to stop. OU just made it look so easy getting 300 passing yards in a half. Baylor is very explosive. Aggie very explosive. Tech hung like 40 on OU – whose defense seemed a step up from ours. I am bullish on Ash in the future – but I just think the final games where the defenses will sell out to stop our run, and we don’t sling it well enough to make them pay. If we have to pass in passing situations – it is not pretty.

Our most talented D in the conference got shredded by OU. Looked good except for 2 plays against OSU and played great against KU. TT, MU, BU and ANM will tell us how talented this D really is.

Seriously, “Bête Noire”? That is the second time I have seen that phrase used in a blog/ newsletter this week.

With regard to the “helicopter” parents, is the problem the kids, the parents, or some combination of the two? I guess I’m powerless to understand how a parent gets onto the sideline during practice, and why any coach would allow him to make a comment to any kid OTHER than his own?!? With Brad McCoy, at least the guy has some coaching chops, but still… that has no place at any program, much less Texas.

Fong the Merciless said:

November 3rd, 2011 at 10:33 am

    You know, some guys would look at this glass and they would say, "That glass is half empty." Other guys would say,"That glass is half full". I peg you as a "glass is half empty" kind of guy. Am I right?

“Sighhhh… your dependency on binary logic is going to get you in real trouble someday. There is at the very least a third choice: the glass looks to you to be twice as big as it really is.”

And THAT is why I have to kill the Groundhog.

RomaVicta – You hit the nail on the head about Mack. As soon as I look up “avuncularity”, I think I will probably agree with you even more.

monahorns,

If you look at the offensive line the Horns have 2 seniors who will be gone after this year (Allen & Snow) and 2 juniors (Buchanan & Poehlmann). I don’t know if Buchaman is in a position to graduate after 4 years, but I can’t think he would be transferring with just one year to go in Austin. Poehlmann might have found a home at TE (Neale Tweeded 2.0) and with no TE’s committed I don’t see him going anywhere next year.

You have 6 sophomores on the roster (Ashcraft, Hopkins, Kelley, Kriegel, Porter, Walters) and if anyone from that group might be leaving I would guess it would be Kriegel. Not that I have heard anything, but he is the only one who isn’t seeing any time in the rotation, it is his second position since he came to Austin, but I have no idea how he is doing since he made the switch to offensive line.

Finally, you have 6 true or red-shirt freshmen on the roster. Three are either starting or backing-up (Cochran, Espinosa, and Flowers.) That leaves Doyle, Greenlea, and Hutchins. If I was going to look for attrition among the freshmen I know where I would look, but it isn’t anything I can say with certainty at this time.

Seriously, "Bête Noire"?

It’s a reference to a French porn star, apparently an immigrant from the Côte d’Ivoire, and seemingly from the same tribe as the “Black Mamba”. Livestock grow nervous in his presence, even… Longhorns.

And THAT is why I have to kill the Groundhog.

There is no Groundhog. Ask yourself, “Who is the Master who sees the Shadow of the Non-existent Groundhog?”

Yeeeee Fucking Haw. There is no reason in the world that we are not a top 5 program year in and year out with the kind of resource and talent available to us. All done above board and the right way.

This season is going well so far. The very young team we are fielding has made significant forward progress and it does look right now like we have a great chance in all of our remaining games. I don’t know that this team has the maturity to finish close games quite yet, so we could still very well lose a couple. I could live with that as long as we do not get blown out or beat ourselves. I do expect to win at least 3 of the next 5 based on where we are and extrapolating out further progress.

I think we will be pretty damn tough by Thanksgiving and could send a$m skulking off to the SEC with their tails tucked and we should beat Baylor. I expect to win against Tech this Saturday in a pragmatically called game where we run, run and run some more. 10 wins is not unattainable if you include the Bowl Game, particularly if said game is right here in Texas – which seems likely. 10 wins is still a pretty lofty goal for this team, though.

Mack should definitely be given credit for the progress thus far this year just as he is ultimately accountable for this young team’s terrible outing in the OU game. I still don’t believe that he merits a long term commitment and I’ve expounded on why I feel that way. I certainly believe that, barring any additional debacles, for this year and next we should allow the rebuild under $ 5M A.N. Brocktoon to play out and the new staff to gel. After that, I think we will be once again bumping up against Mack’s lower ceiling vis a vis the top echelon of head coaches in the game (the “MBOC” or Mack Brown Opportunity Cost) and it will be the best possible time for an orderly transition to avert a very possible, if not outright probable, backslide.

DC Horn…

Sorry, but I don’t fit into any of your categories. I like the Shuttlesworth world for what it is…bits of truth hidden in lots of speculation. But I’m a life-long Longhorn diehard, so I enjoy the speculation too. And I equally disdain the Koolaid drinkers on here who may actually cause the program harm with their increasingly more public slogging, I mean blogging.

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November 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm

Close practice to everyone if you have to.

OR, just broadcast it exclusively on the LHN, which would have the same effect!

nobis, that’s a great point.

And without dulling the blade to the point of simplicity, one of the black marks against Mack is that he simply can’t win without an all-world college QB. Major/Simms, as frustrating as that was, were often above-average QB play. Then VY and Colt.

Meanwhile, Nicky Saban and The Hat are about to square off in a raging bull testicle 1-2 matchup with…AJ McCarron and Jarrett Lee? This after winning respective MNCs with the immortal Greg McElroy and Matt Flynn. Bob Stoops won a B12 championship with Paul freakin’ Thompson.

jc25 -

I think through the rest of this season and in 2012 (whether it’s with an improving but not-likely-world-beating David Ash or a raw as hell Connor Brewer) we’ll see an all-time high for Mack Brown’s On-Field Success/Starting QB Capability ratio. The punishing ground game that it seems Mack always wanted is finally taking shape now that its design is in the hands of those who are both competent and invested in creating such a thing. The absurdity of just about everything we tried to do on the ground from 1999-2010 that didn’t involve a built-in constraint from the threat of a QB keep just can’t be overstated.

Why does everyone feel compelled to use this strange lingo on this blog? That’s why I prefer Burnt Orange Nation and keep this site as on the side info. Seriously, everyone who hasn’t needs to check out Burnt Orange Nation.

Nobis, agree. Ash and Brewer don’t really strike me as world-beaters (not that Colt did, either), so it’ll be interesting to see if the vaunted running game that Mack craves so much will be enough to carry our offense to 10+ wins.

Thinking back to last year’s D, I’m amazed at how much of a cluster our team turned out to be. I realize we had nothing on offense, but that D was pretty damn stout. By my count, I’ve got 10 current/future NFL players that were major contributors (The Achos, The Browns, Williams, Vaccaro, Robinson, Randall, Okafor, Jeffcoat), 7 of whom were upperclassmen. My opinion: we give that collection of talent to Saban or Miles in the SEC and they mitigate our offensive shortcomings much, much better than Mack did.

Cooler Head,

This site is populated with erudite sesquipedalians. If you find yourself befuddled and nonplussed with the lexicon displayed here, perhaps you should extricate yourself.

Cooler -

If you feel the need to cut us out entirely, we’ll take the news with heavy hearts but I think we’ll soldier on somehow.

Cooler head -
 
Agreed. Every Longhorn should be reading Burnt Orange Nation, too.
 
Although I am saddened to hear that we’re only your “on the side” mistress. You promised us so much more. So much more.

realmccoy:
“Baylor is very explosive. Aggie very explosive. Tech hung like 40 on OU – whose defense seemed a step up from ours. I am bullish on Ash in the future – but I just think the final games where the defenses will sell out to stop our run, and we don’t sling it well enough to make them pay. If we have to pass in passing situations – it is not pretty.”

I’m confident that the horn D is going to continue to play quite well. They are much better now than at the beginning of the season and they are going to keep improving by leaps and bounds because their biggest problem was lack of experience in the new D system and in college ball. Now they have 7 college games in the new system under their belt. Diaz has also figured out that he doesn’t have to take so many chances because he has the talent to play assignment football and win.

The horn offense has also grown considerably and is much less dependent on gimmicks and much better at concealing weaknesses and exploiting strengths. If a foe is to sell out to stop the horn running game, they have to stop both the inside power running game and the speedy outside running game. The Texas power running game is the real deal because Harsin allocates plenty of big blockers to block it properly and has two bona fide horses to do the power running. You can put 8 in the box and maybe stop the inside power running game but that leaves you vulnerable to speedy outside running game by Monroe, Foz, and Goodwin.

The personnel you play to defend power running are different from the personnel you play to stop speedy outside runners. When you commit to tackling an inside runner, you are vulnerable to outside running (and vice versa). Having both an efficient inside power running game and an efficient outside speed running game is extremely synergistic. You really have to take incautious risks to stop both the horns inside power running game and the outside speed running game that leave you wide open to big plays.

Ash’s passing improved a bunch vs KU. KU D stinks but part of the improvement is that Harsin is having Ash make shorter, quicker, easier throws to get Ash in rhythm and build his confidence. Throwing short to explosive runners such as Brown, Bergeron, and Foz is quite easy for Ash but is difficult for a D to defend (especially a D selling out to stop power running).

Ash can throw the ball fine, his problem has been that he was unable to read the D fast enough and with enough confidence to make the right throw to the right target at the right time. By radically simplifying Ash’s reads, Harsin has multiplied Ash’s passing efficiency.

The horns will be able to hang onto the ball by grinding out first downs with inside/outside running and short passing except when they stop themselves with mistakes. In those games where the horns’ O makes few mistakes, it will be hard to get them off the field.

To jump to the next level of offensive efficiency and become a deadly offense, Ash and the horn WRs need to start connecting on the plentiful deep play action passing opportunities that are created by defenses selling out to stop the horns potent running attack. When the horns figure that out, the horns O will be downright nasty.

Wow, I was reading about Bête Noire (the Bryan Ferry album) just yesterday…

“Tech hung like 40 on OU – whose defense seemed a step up from ours.”

While OU was entirely outhustled, and I’ll be the first to say it, we had three starters at critical positions on D watching that game from the sidelines. DT Casey Walker, MLB Tom Wort, and CB Jamell Fleming. That’s two of the forced turnovers from the Texas game on the sideline, and it’s pretty much the heart of our interior D. Tech got a more favorable situation than Texas did, and they capitalized.

People vastly overestimate OU’s D vs. our own because they’re creating a mental equivalency between our middle of the road offense and OU’s Top 5 offense. Basically, they watched OU play us and draw conclusions from there.
 
Check the rankings as the season plays out.

Scip,

Thanks for having the sense to acknowledge BON’s quality work. This is why you are an admin here and not just one of the rabble, I guess. Anyway, I do always look forward to you guys’ game reports, etc, but it just annoys me to dig through all the vague references and the offbeat way everyone talks around here. It’s so much nicer to read straight sports reporting. Anyway, I know Shuttlesworth and the rest probably aren’t changing, but if you can add a couple more normal bloggers, it would be greatly appreciated.

“I think we’ll soldier on somehow.”

Speak for yourself. My favorite part of this blog is the anonymous commentators who criticize the bloggers here for posting anonymously.

Cooler head > Aggie Rick > Tebow

Kafka,

Do you have to write a book?

This site is populated with erudite sesquipedalians.

Actually, some of are younger than that and/or we have shorter, uhhh, “words” than them foot-and-a-half ones.

normal bloggers

Normal is boring. Most bloggers are boring, even without being “normal” by any stretch of anyone’s imagination. “Normal blogger” is therefore an oxymoronic redundancy. Refer to the Secret Email of 11 October 2011.

Cooler head,

Do you have to be obtuse?

For some reason, I can only imagine the secret emails as scanned, sepia-toned photos of horses from the 1930s with odd captions underneath them.

Whoop!

Thank you, Aggie Rick, for the best laugh I’ve had in ages. Thanks to the Big Cigar for the inside scoop. Thank you Mack for being humble (teachable). Thank you coaches for running off the dead wood and not taking shit off anyone. And last but not least, thank you Jesus.

Cooler Head,

We’re all just razzing you because you were a tad inflammatory, and well, that’s what you get. I relaize it’s not just just the “big” words, despite the nature of my post, but also the obscure references and inside jokes. The fact of the matter is, I didn’t get half the references here to inside jokes when I first came along, but after a while of gaining context and doing a tiny bit of research I get pretty much all of them. For those I don’t, I just pull up the ol’ trusty google and search away. A few well considered search terms and I’m in the loop. Long story short, embrace what you don’t understand ‘cause you just might learn something if you put in the effort (it’s not all pop culture references).

Cooler head = Son of Blueshorn?

Cooler Head,

Do you think you are the first to discover BON? WE are all aware of the site. If you prefer it, fine. Great! AWESOME! But leave everyone else here alone, what the hell is wrong with you?

Those of us who frequent this place do so because it offers exactly what we are looking for. Witty pop culture references, damn fine eloquent writing skills sometimes bordering on the poetic, insightful game breakdown and insider knowledge reporting. To top it all of it’s funny as hell. I’ve never frequented a blog that contained such a number of high caliber, rational, educated, hilarious writers and commentators.

If you don’t understand the pop culture references try Google. If you want this place to change to accommodate you, kindly just read BON, or read both if you want, but either way shut the fuck up.

BOJ,
Exactly, and if none of that helps, do what I’ve done a couple time when I didn’t get something and have the humility to ask for an explanation.

Commentators? I guess we qualify

I’m calling everyone rabble from now on.

Now if Bob stoops would just return our playbook.

I vote to make Aggie Rick a writer on BC.

Aggie Rick > Tebow IMO

Why does everyone feel compelled to use this strange lingo on this blog? That’s why I prefer Burnt Orange Nation and keep this site as on the side info. Seriously, everyone who hasn’t needs to check out Burnt Orange Nation.

Too long, didn’t read. You should check out Shaggy Bevo though. I think it’s right up your ally.

JS: So I guess you decided against posting it? Puss.

And eff you for the Ozone reference. You know that gets me every time.

I was going to whip out the awesome “This is the first time that a cooler head hasn’t prevailed” joke(see what I did there?!), but then I remembered The Great War of 2873 when the hellbringers of Arsonalia destroyed Snowman Station and massacred its denizens. The streets were flooded for days afterwards.

It’s just too soon for those kinds of jokes..

Triple post!

I’ve never frequented a blog that contained such a number of high caliber, rational, educated, hilarious writers and commentators.

And dedfischer.

RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fEjJ4Ecy9Q

Tipsy,
If you know something and won’t post it yourself that makes you a puss!

Tebow>Tipsy not sharing some sweet, sweet smoke from the BC

"Tipsy Gypsie said:

Triple post!

I’ve never frequented a blog that contained such a number of high caliber, rational, educated, hilarious writers and commentators.

And dedfischer.""

That’s what I’m talkin’ bout.

Ok, I have had a revelation and I will throw it out here for this motley group to consider.

Tell me I am wrong.

With Gray coming in next year, we will have a hard time playing him, Bergeron and Brown with enough reps, UNLESS….wait for it:

We run the Wishbone!

Before you pile on, I realize that we won’t. But doesn’t it give you a woodie to think about it?

My God, even Ash fits the format.
Bergeron – FB
Brown?Gray – HB’s
Shipley/Davis – WR’s
A 300 lb. TE that can move!

DKR never had a complement like this – even in the Campbell or Worster days.

Another beauty of the Bone is Ash won’t be required to pass as much – win, win IMO.
Sigh, ain’t gonna happen though

The biggest beauty of the Gray/MB ’bone is that, according to Gray, it has already happened!

BA-DUM-PSH!

LOL – well played.

Thanks for having the sense to acknowledge BON’s quality work. This is why you are an admin here and not just one of the rabble, I guess.

Good heavens, will you just go away already?

And Garry, please keep the posts above board. I enjoy the frequent and spirited intercourse I have with the rabble at BC, but haven’t any tolerance for such lowbrow humor. Thanks!

LOLOLOL – This is just sick!

“Although I am saddened to hear that we’re only your "on the side" mistress. You promised us so much more. So much more.”

Beautiful work, Alan. I’d share the ’bone backfield with you anytime.

Now if we could only find a pitch man…

teehee… triple option… football is so dirty

So, it looks like next year our starting QB will be either Ash or Conner and Overstreet will be our wildcat/special package QB. And, Floyd will be our clipboard QB technician. You folks agree.

oops, meant to spell “Connor”

I hate to bring this up, but here goes.

Mack should tell any helicopter parents hanging around on the sidelines that NCAA rules limit the number of coaches any team can have. If a parent is not only coaching his own kid, but also others from the sidelines, that’s a clear violation of NCAA rules.

In other words, GTFO.

JS wrote “In fact, I’m more worried about those on the staff who are annoyed with the constant carping from a certain camp about why they think their son should play. And they’re annoyed, make no mistake. This shit didn’t happen at Boise and the few returning coaches have voiced their dissatisfaction with it happening at Texas. It’s sort of galvanized the offensive staff but it needs to end quickly. The head guy needs to end it.”

I used to covet your information and admire your writing. After reading the comment above, the information just does not make much sense. Surely, you could have written more clearly.

Could all of this noise about Brad McCoy just be a smokescreen to hide the fact that the coaches are playing the second best quarterback?

“I used to covet your information and admire your writing. After reading the comment above, the information just does not make much sense. Surely, you could have written more clearly.

Could all of this noise about Brad McCoy just be a smokescreen to hide the fact that the coaches are playing the second best quarterback?"

Chip Brown, why don’t you just come out post under your actual name rather than coming up with various other short, common names? We’d respect you more. On second thought… Naaaah.

David Ash is the second best quarterback at bailing out of the pocket on step 2 of a 3 step drop.

Okay, let’s settle this mano-a-mano. I propose a Cage Match-last man standing… Chip Brown vs Jesus Shuttlesworth. Anything goes-chairs, tables, desktops, laptops, i-phones, tablets, androids… The match of the century. Winner gets a table dance at his favorite gentleman’s club by his pick of lovely senoritas.

Tom, I apologize if it was unclear to you so I’ll try to clear it up. Harsin and Applewhite are tired of the meddling. This from probably the best source I have. It ain’t complicated.

My money is on Shuttlesworth…

So, JS, what was Tipsy referring to when he said you pussed out?!?!

Snide,

Street, Worster, Koy, Bertelson, Speyrer, and Peschel for their time was an elite group.

Nate—yes, OU missed some critical components in that game. But I remember the announcers saying Tech was minus a few starters too. I know you’re referring contextually here to OU’s D play, and I don’t recall which Tech guys were out (they may not have been all on O’). I do know they had to replace their center, and the guy who filled in muffed many snaps to the QB. That alone could have, perhaps should have, stymied their attack.

Reality is it was just one of those nights where Tech was clearly better. They have a strange, twisted history of knocking off a great team followed by looking putrid against some scrub. Happened just last weekend, in fact.
The only shocker of it was that it was in Norman. Lot of weird things happen in Lubbock (esp at night), but they don’t usually go on the road and play like that.

Funny how much time regulars on here actually have on their hands.

Also wondering what media outlet Shuttlesworth is a reporter for…

Now get mad and yell at me, rabble.

head, you aren’t nearly as interesting as you seem to think.

“Street, Worster, Koy, Bertelson, Speyrer, and Peschel for their time was an elite group.”

Davey – Kudos on your excellent research about the Longhorns. You are correct about the above group.

  There were many gifted players in the wishbone era, including Roosevelt Leaks, Marty Akins and Duke Carlisle. Leaks followed Worster and was our first black FB to run the bone – he preceded Campbell. I was going to throw in Jimmy Saxton, but I remembered he played in the “flip flop” offense in those days.
lThese were all great players for their time, but for the exception of Campbell, I believe the three we will have next year would play ahead of them. In retrospect, I*’m not sure if Bergeron would replace Leaks, however.

Slickstreet – You are right about the TTU center – I think his every snap was on the ground. At least it seemed thatr way to me.

Harsin and Applewhite are tired of the meddling.

Of the helicoptroids? Or of A.N. “Mack” Brown? I’m assuming the former, since we all believe “Mack” has entered Faze 2.

We wouldn’t have the heli’s if we still had Old Freak Nasty to run them off. It seems that FatDog was to undertake that duty, but “run” is not to be found in his job description.

Being pert of the rabble, it’s difficult for me to understand how you’d know I was yelling at you over the internet. How does that work?

Oh, and you really aren’t all that cool but you are a dick. So there’s a much more appropriate anonymous name you can use to critcize other anonymous posters on BC. Think about it a little and I bet it’ll come to you.

I tell ya, I’m confused. I thought Mack had turned over a new leaf and was giving HarsinWhite control over the offensive personnel. Now I learn that Mack is allowing meddling dads to hang around practice, act as defacto coaches, and create havoc with team and staff chemistry. So which is it? Is Mack a great guy or a bum? I’ve said he’s a bum for over ten years and have been ridiculed for it, so I need to know if I was right. All apologists on deck! Stand by your man!

JS, thanks for the clarification. When you wrote that “the few returning coaches…”, I did not know who you meant. I think you can see where I could be confused.

There were many gifted players in the wishbone era, including Roosevelt Leaks, Marty Akins and Duke Carlisle.

Um…Carlisle graduated five years before the Wishbone was invented.

I’m encouraged with the change of culture in the program and I hope that Mack puts an end to "helicopter dad’s" interference.

LMAO!

“Um…Carlisle graduated five years before the Wishbone was invented.”

Shit – I hate admitting I was wrong – don’t know why I said Carlisle, my memory is slipping and I don’t access UT history to get my story straight. Sorry, my bad.
I think the wishbone came into existance around ’67 or ’68, I could even be wrong about this.
Hmmm, I know Mike Cotton was before the bone – he was split T.
Oh well, one of you history buffs will know.

Is there any doubt? “Coolerhead” is Chip Brown? Wow!

The Wishbone rolled out in 1968. Duke Carlisle led the Horns to the national championship in 1963. (That’s the year I became a Horn fan.) Cotten was QB in ’60 and ’61.

Death to italics.

And the rabble.

So one with a cooler head is also a rabble-rouser?

You seem to endorse the use of Tarzan speak at this site, while decrying the use of strange lingo. I don’t understand the desire to converse with Aggies or chimpanzees, but I would like to defer any such normalcy for the time being. I just wish you could’ve resisted damning the good folks at BON with faint praise. They deserve better.

Happy trails!

So whats the helicopter dad reference? I understand who its referring to but don’t understand why.

Thanks for these reports JS.

One would hope that players in today’s game with all the advancements in nutrition, physical training, etc……….would play before a player from over thirty years ago.

In regards to how they compared with their peers then consider Koy, Street, and Worster are all in the Texas High School Hall of Fame.

If I am not mistaken Bertleson, Koy, and Worster were all multi-year all conference players.

I know Worster was an All-Amercia, but can’t recall on the others.

Leaks was a great back who hurt his knee and never really was the same. He did however go for over 300 yards against SMU when he was basically hammer head off the left and right butt cheeks of the center as the fullback in the wishbone. To even consider that Bergeron is in his class or Rosie is way off base.

realmccoy…

You by far make the most sense of any poster on here. Cooler heads always prevail. Thanks for providing some clear thinking to this forum.

Boy, I’d bet realmccoy is one embarrased dude right now. I hope you weren’t drinking and driving when you posted that, Chip.

Somebody just give Coolerhead a totebag full of Sizzlechest’s finest work, along with a pair of Vasherized’s trademark skinnny jeans with pictures of HenryJames crying in the pockets so he can feel like part of the team. Maybe someday he can visit the BC Boardroom and take an SRR50 mustache ride.

“You by far make the most sense of any poster on here. Cooler heads always prevail. Thanks for providing some clear thinking to this forum.”

Cooler head, do you not remember the Great War of 2873? I just gave you a very CLEAR example of cooler heads NOT prevailing! I am also CAPITALIZING words which seem to require great EMPHASIS!

" I hope you weren’t drinking and driving when you posted that, Chip."

JL – LOL – you can be one ascorbic asshole when you want to be!

Davey – Yes, I backed off, in a previous comment, replacing Leaks with Bergeron. It’s way to soon for that evaluation and, actually, the same can be said of Gray and Brown. It’s academic anyway as we will never see them in that formatio and won’t get a side by side evaluation
However, as you pointed out, the athletes of today do enjoy better nutrition and PT than the older ones. In addition, they are better prepared coming out of high school – for the same reasons as well, as being coached up a little better.

But, as per my contention, we are assembling a group of skill players that COULD be every bit as good, if not better.

I have inside iinformation on shead,i work with his uncle.At the beginning of last year shead did not want 2 redshirt,the coaches made him,midway thriugh the year the coaches wanted 2 pull his shirt an he refused which was a mistake since he would have had a chance 2 show what he could do.I think mack may have punished him 4 it by moving him 2 h-back an not giving him a chance this year.

What does ascorbic mean? (TIC)

its a descriptive word = relieving scurvy

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