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College Football Rankings 2011

Results for Week 18

# School Points/blog SD Delta
1 LSU Tigers (13) 24.09 0.89 Arrow_up 1
2 USC Trojans (14) 23.88 1.32 Arrow_down -1
3 Alabama Crimson Tide (6) 23.03 1.40 --
4 Oregon Ducks (1) 21.35 2.40 --
5 Oklahoma Sooners 19.82 4.00 --
6 Georgia Bulldogs 19.00 2.34 Arrow_up 1
7 Michigan Wolverines 17.32 3.07 Arrow_up 1
8 Florida St. Seminoles 15.91 3.67 Arrow_up 1
9 South Carolina Gamecocks 15.21 4.79 Arrow_up 1
10 Arkansas Razorbacks 14.56 5.68 Arrow_down -4
11 West Virginia Mountaineers 14.56 3.41 --
12 Wisconsin Badgers 12.09 4.47 Arrow_up 2
13 Michigan St. Spartans 11.85 5.30 Arrow_down -1
14 TCU Horned Frogs 11.50 5.31 Arrow_down -1
15 Kansas St. Wildcats 9.68 4.53 Arrow_up 3
16 Clemson Tigers 9.44 4.78 --
17 Virginia Tech Hokies 8.97 4.38 Arrow_down -2
18 Nebraska Cornhuskers 7.76 3.88 Arrow_down -1
19 Stanford Cardinal 6.74 5.71 Arrow_up 3
20 Ohio St. Buckeyes 6.32 5.56 Arrow_up 1
21 Texas Longhorns 6.12 3.83 Arrow_down -2
22 Boise St. Broncos 6.00 5.22 Arrow_down -2
23 Oklahoma St. Cowboys 4.76 4.78 --
24 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2.74 3.30 Arrow_up 1
25 Washington Huskies 2.50 4.18 Arrow_down -1
Others Receiving Votes: Florida Gators | Louisville Cardinals | Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets | Missouri Tigers | Utah Utes | Auburn Tigers | Texas A&M; Aggies | Cincinnati Bearcats | Penn St. Nittany Lions | Illinois Fighting Illini | Baylor Bears | Iowa Hawkeyes | BYU Cougars | South Florida Bulls | Louisiana Tech Bulldogs | Central Florida Knights | Southern Miss. Golden Eagles | Syracuse Orange | Toledo Rockets | Virginia Cavaliers | Fla. International Golden Panthers | Vanderbilt Commodores | Rutgers Scarlet Knights | SMU Mustangs | Miami Hurricanes | California Golden Bears | Purdue Boilermakers
Updated: May 9, 2025 9:37 AM PDT

SB Nation BlogPoll College Football Rankings 2011

Some thoughts after the jump....

Star-divide

LSU at #1 is basically evidence that voters value a starting QB who won't cry through saucer-sized eyes during the 1st quarter of the national championship game. Zach Mettenberger can't be worse than Jordan Jefferson under the spotlight, but LSU's atrocious game planning and eroding team unity may well be constant. The defense is loaded and the offense should be improved.

Overvalued:

Alabama at #3 with several #1 votes demonstrates Saban worship in full flush. Or laziness. The Tide have to replace most of their defense and are relying on AJ McCarron's arm to get them through the first half of the season. They look like a 2-3 loss team reloading for 2013.

Arkansas saw a slight dip in voter perception with the Petrino debacle, but are still in the Top 10. A top 5 finish or a 6-6 debacle seem equally plausible.

That Oklahoma State finds themselves ranked in the Top 25 after losing another spectacular receiver and a QB who DVR'ed Murder, She Wrote is testament to the respect that Gundy has built, but 4-5 conference losses seems plausible. Also, they will be QB'd by something called Wes Lunt.

One of West Virginia, TCU, is probably going to crap the bed. Which?

Baylor won 10 games in 2011; Oklahoma State won 12 games: which team has the greater decline in wins?

One of Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia is going to disappoint. Which?

Undervalued:

Texas checks in at #21 and we're undervalued if you believe our offense will improve from 2011. Move the needle from 28 ppg in 2011 to 34 ppg in 2012 and Texas wins 10+.

Utah isn't ranked. Utah returns 17 starters, QB Jordan Wynn is healthy, and they have their sea legs in the Pac 12. They look like a ranked team to me.

Interested in your thoughts.

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I don’t really understand…

…why perennial under achievers like FSU and South Carolina are in the top ten, but I guess I’m just not as smart as others. BSU that low makes me think maybe I’m the one is who is right, though

"...the greatest growth occurs when the greatest number of mistakes are made consistent with survival."
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by steveholt! on May 9, 2025 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I think FSU is a function

of lots of talent, a healthy EJ Manuel, and another year away from Bowden’s ineffectual swan song.

by Scipio Tex on May 9, 2025 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

FSU

Basically the mirror image of Texas. Defense shpuld be great. Huge questions at OL. If OL comes through this is a top 5 team.

by codaxx on May 9, 2025 7:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

FSU is similar to Texas

Key differences:

1. Texas questions are at QB, which is much more easily managed than OL (if you stick a great QB behind a shitty OL, he won’t take long to look like crap - conversely, if you stick a mediocre QB behind an amazing OL he’ll look like a superstar. See: White, Jason)

2. FSU is #8, Texas is #21.

I find steve’s observation still valid.

by RJphrenic on May 10, 2025 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

FSU

plays in the ACC and not the Big 12. How many wins is that? 3? Leads to a better record. If you are a famous school with 10 wins you get top 10 respect, regardless of context.

by Nickel Rover on May 10, 2025 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Colt McCoy disagrees with you
if you stick a great QB behind a shitty OL, he won’t take long to look like crap

But your point is valid.

by Horncasting on May 10, 2025 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Laziness

It’s just lazy to keep teams in the top five just because they were in the top five the previous year. We “benefited” from that laziness two years ago after appearing in the MNC.

I’m sure Alabama will field a good team, but nobody can stay in the top five every year. Strangely (but predictably), if Saban loses three games these same worshipers will begin to wonder if he’s lost it because he has “underperformed” based on the pundits miscalculations. It’s not the pundits who were wrong, it’s the team that failed.

I recall Dave Campbell’s Texas Football Magazine failing to predict the winner of the SWC a number of years in a row in the late 70s. They began to attribute the “failures” to the annointed teams’ inability to deal with the onus of being the front runner when, in fact, it was the prognisticators failure to know what they were writing about.

by RomaVicta on May 9, 2025 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Amusing

I was going to add the possessive apostrophe to “prognisticators” (I may have corrected the spelling, too) so I clicked “actions” and the word “actions” just disappeared. I don’t know why, but I can’t stop chuckling about it.

by RomaVicta on May 9, 2025 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three great paragraphs, RomaVicta

Great stuff, my man.

We definitely benefitted from those assumptions in 2010 despite a ton of evidence that we were headed for a fall. Black Swan theory. Hell, I compiled an exhaustive list of reasons why we were headed for a fall, but knowing that we’d have a good defense and irrational hope that GG - like Colt - would erase our offensive foolishness put me in the “Oh, you know, we’ll just go 9-3 camp.” Even that was considered haterism at the time. WE JUST PLAYED FOR A NATIONAL TITLE - HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY LOSE 3 GAMES? None of us could pull the trigger on what was right before us.

Related to your point on Saban, I enjoy listening to Patriot fans whine about Belichick losing it because they’ve lost their last two Super Bowls. I wish I was kidding.

That’s such a great point about the observers refusing to blame their own biases with respect to DCTF.

by Scipio Tex on May 9, 2025 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

In 2010, I was persuaded by your articles prior to the season but held out the same hopes. After the Nebraska game, I was all “Heeeeeeere we go!” Of course, I was correct about everything except the direction we ended up going. Yikes.

by RomaVicta on May 9, 2025 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

in part due to the Nebraska game

I’ll never believe that our talent was quite as bad as 5-7. If we had just taken the air out of the ball and been willing to live and die by our mediocre running game rather than our abysmal passing game I think we could have won 7-8 games.

by Nickel Rover on May 10, 2025 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I felt the same way

No reason we couldn’t have trudged our way to atleast 7 wins or so had Greg Davis learned anything at all from the Nebraska game. Having our offense run clock and field position to help the defense instead of being an active detriment would have been huge.

by CMDR on May 10, 2025 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

We handed away the Baylor and Iowa State games in 2010

And, having done that, we half-stepped through most of the rest of the season.

Oklahoma State was better than us. K-State, we were dead as soon as we kicked off. We would have led Florida Atlantic just 10-7 at halftime if we don’t hit that miracle long pass late in the second quarter.

With all the QB and offensive problems and internal issues and pending staff changes — we still played A&M’s best team in a decade to a 24-17 loss.

I’ve always believed that was a 7-5, maybe 8-4 team, that played itself into a losing season. And, fortunately, forced Mack’s hand on some of the assistant coaches he would have retained if we’d gone 7-5.

by edsp on May 10, 2025 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The A&M; game

Mack got us back to a run-heavy mindset and we played it close by giving them heavy doses of Cody Johnson. What we should have done all year.

by Nickel Rover on May 10, 2025 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Areed. And I did not understand

why Cody didn’t become the man when Fozzy went down against Mizzou. We were left with Jeremy Hills to run 15, 20 times while a powerful RB option got only short-yardage opportunities.

by edsp on May 10, 2025 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't thought

much about that. Maybe Berryhill was injured? Maybe they didn’t think Cody was well-repped in the concepts?
Seemed like our trouble in that game was penetration by their DL alternated with Hills being unable to make the most of holes through either speed or power.
Not sure if Cody is an improvement there. It’s not hard to stop him before big gains although it is certainly tiresome and exceptionally difficult to stop him before modest gains.

by Nickel Rover on May 11, 2025 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will buy Texas

they are undervalued, we won 8 with smoke and mirrors, a complete running game blow -up with injuries. Add to that 0 help from the QB position and nobody knew the offense. I take the upside on Ash and anyone backing him, the receivers will improve and the running game will be better than good. With that the line will be much improved or at least we will think they are better by the way we run the ball. The defenses will respect that and give Ash time to throw.

by 55f100tx on May 9, 2025 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't blame you

I would only add that 0 help from the QB position gives our QBs too much credit. 0 help from the QB position is Greg McElroy - we’d have won more games with a woefully inept QB that can’t hit an open man but doesn’t throw interceptions either. The QB position actively damaged us last year.

by RJphrenic on May 10, 2025 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

All SEC Over

1) Voters will be looking for excuses to move SEC teams down in the polls this year. That’s off-the-field, but it’s absolutely going to play a role by the end of the season.

2) And SEC teams will be providing excuses. Georgia and LSU especially. Something went “kaboom” in LSU’s chemistry late in the season, and I think it’s been building for more than a year. Maybe they graduated / sent to the NFL the problem children - or maybe this thing just comes off the rails this year. I’m betting “off the rails.”

Georgia found a way to lose to Michigan State last year. Actually, they found several. A horrible sign. That team was coming off a loss to Central Florida in the previous year’s bowl game, so don’t tell me it was lack of focus after the SEC championship game. I’m thinking Richt picks up where he left off and finds a way to lose 4 again this year.

Alabama’s offensive line intrigues me. They were down 2 tackles (both back-ups, but still) to injury last season down the home stretch. They’re moving the Outland Trophy winner from left tackle to center. If their O achieves better red-zone efficiency, then the defense will have plenty of time to grow - and much more margin for error. They’re actually the one SEC team I could see holding serve on expectations.

by G.O.F on May 9, 2025 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do you think people will be looking for excuses to move SEC teams down?

It seems like if anything they’re given the benefit of the doubt more than other conferences. For example half of this top ten are SEC teams

by cade21 on May 9, 2025 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anti-SEC carry-over

Call it a backlash. Voters in other chunks of the country are going to be looking for any excuse to end the streak after The Rematch.

by G.O.F on May 9, 2025 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought you were getting at

I’ll just have to see it to believe it. I think right now last years crap is still fresh enough that that might be true. But a month or two into the season and having heard nothing on ESPN except that the SEC (and USC) is great those memories won’t matter as much.

by cade21 on May 9, 2025 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

possibly

but it’s important to remember that the national title still had solid ratings. Tons and tons of big football fans live in SEC country and then a huge chunk of the population outside of the confederacy see the results of the last several years and buy into the SEC as well. Particularly in the media, where groupthink is common.

by Nickel Rover on May 10, 2025 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see TCU around #20

And prove it from there.

Where’s A&M?

Baylor won’t win 6 games.

by Philly Frog on May 9, 2025 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Big 12

6 teams, most in top 25. This of course will be disqualified by Aggies who will claim $EC has higher ranked teams, which means A&M should be in the top 25 instead of the Horns.

Screw You...We're From Texas

by Hookem Up on May 9, 2025 6:52 PM CDT via Android app reply actions  

Positioning

I actually like where we are, down at 22. I agree that the Horns will be better than that, maybe even a lot better if everything breaks right with Ash and the O-line. However, UT’s coming off of two less than spectacular seasons, and the rebuild job isn’t finished, despite how much we want it to be. The team being ranked at 22 is just enough of a slap in the face as to motivate them to make the pollsters eat a s$#@ sandwich. I like this team a lot if they have an edge to them…I like them a whole lot less if somehow or another the Horns feel “empowered” because they are UT. I think 22 is a nice starting place to the season.

"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." (Jimmy Buffett)

by coolhorn on May 9, 2025 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Nothing to lose, lots to prove

I’m with you on this. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the season play out with us moving from a 22-25 spot to a top ten (with an outside shot at top five if all the breaks fall our way). I still think we’re a young team, but last year has given them a taste. I think they are likely to have that nice mix of “prove them wrong” confidence and “too young to know better” fearlessness.

by Flipteach on May 9, 2025 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right on brother

Agree with your thoughts but would like to be just outside the top 10. Homerism aside, I think bottom top 25 I’d just about right given our O issues the past few years. We have to prove we are back eessentially.

If we stay injury free (looking at you on-line) and Ash has a decent year we’ll be back up in the top 10.

by ShameAndFailure on May 10, 2025 8:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Huckleberry's polls are riskier

because they always start with Air Force.

He’s obsessed with Air Force.

by Parlin on May 9, 2025 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I find the lack of a military academy in the top 25 to be frankly unpatriotic. Further evidence that the terrorists have won.

by Big(g) Ern on May 9, 2025 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll comment on the Top 25 Blog Poll

when somebody explains to me how in hell we averaged 28 points a game in 2011.

by edsp on May 9, 2025 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

~50 points

against KU, TTU, and UCLA

by vortic on May 10, 2025 4:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I get it.

Tech was dreadful the night we played them. UCLA handed us most of our points on turnovers. Kansas barely had a program.

I was just shocked when Scip wrote that we averaged 28 points. Guess I’m Mr. Negativity — when I saw that 28-point average, all I could think of was:

Missouri game
Kansas State game
First half of Aggie game
Second half of Baylor game
BYU game (especially the first half)
First half of the Holiday Bowl

by edsp on May 10, 2025 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Texas Tech "defense" and healthy UT RBs.

We over indulged on that rushing feast though. Such a waste. Maybe 10 wins without that coaching fail. Oh and UCLA.

Which reminds me that the squeaky clean and charismatic Lane Kiffin should put up a nice, plump season that will help him get an NFL job before it’s vacated.

by WreckerTex on May 10, 2025 12:08 AM CDT reply actions  

The Surprising Key to '12 Success

Most people point to Texas’s success in 2012 being pinned on David Ash and whether or not he can take care of the football and move the chains on key downs with his arm. Obviously those two things will be critical, but one thing that is still considered a question mark but isn’t being touted as a linchpin for our success is the TE position. My study of Harsin’s offense reveals that the one big difference between all of his teams and our offense last year was the presence of the two monstrous blocking tight ends.

As “potent” as our running game was last year, it was a shadow of what it should be given the backfield talent and the schematic advantages offered by Harsin’s scheme. The main reason is that all of that tight end motion is supposed to create schematic numbers advantages at the point of attack, while giving the defense less time to adjust. That numbers advantage is meaningless, however, if the TEs can’t hold their blocks. A great many of those plays resulted in contact as the backs crossed the LOS - we were able to create positive yards only because Brown and Bergeron are beasts. When Boise’s power run game was in full flow, often their backs wouldn’t get touched for 3 yards. They didn’t need superstars with that kind of blocking - just a guy who could run three yards and finish a run for an extra 1.

Harsin, being a creative problem solver rather than a man solely reliant on talent as his predecessor was, came up with an interesting solution - he added the jet sweep action after the motion to give the defense something else to think about. However, most of the time he would prefer to simply snap the ball as soon as the two tight ends are set, before the defense has a chance to re-align, and with the right tight end play that would be more effective. If Texas can get sound tight end blocking against the better defenses on the schedule, we’ll be in for a big year.

by RJphrenic on May 10, 2025 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

good TE play

would be a huge boon to our system, great points. I think Ash completing QB 101 is a bigger deal though. Easier to adjust a system that excels with great TE play to a team without good TE’s than to deal with negatives at the QB position.

by Nickel Rover on May 10, 2025 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both Texas and Ash's seasons depend totally on our O Lines ability to dominate the better defensive front 5s. Pretty much everything else is in place.

If they do, we are back to 10 wins. If not its 8 or 9 wins

Karl..... Schiefen sie die fenster......SHOOT the GLASS

by MeatchickenHorn on May 10, 2025 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Dominate?

I’d settle for just not being dominated. Seems like an average line could provide enough to get great performances from our backs as used by HarsinWhite.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love a dominant offensive line. I just haven’t seen many of those anywhere over the years.

by RomaVicta on May 11, 2025 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

which fronts

are you most concerned with? We did find against most of them last year, only OU really got to us.

by Nickel Rover on May 11, 2025 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our O line struggled against average D Lines last year...ie Missouri and aTM. My only point is that we have to have serious improvement....

looking at OU as well as KSU, TCU, and even Ok State could all prove problematic, unless we are considerably better on the O Line. Don’t get me wrong, I honestly think we are going to be much better……I’m just saying we have to have seriously better line play for our QB to blossom as well as the running backs

Karl..... Schiefen sie die fenster......SHOOT the GLASS

by MeatchickenHorn on May 11, 2025 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I actually think

that though our OL is almost certain to improve with 4 starters back, if they just held steady and we added any kind of passing game and improved blocking at TE then our running game will be too good for most of the league to handle without becoming exceptionally vulnerable to the passing game or some constraint plays.

KSU has to replace their best tackle, maybe they will. OU and OSU have strong looking DL’s, TCU I don’t know very well but they’ll be solid I’m sure. I would add ISU to the list of teams to be concerned about running on but the fact is that we did a decent job against all those squads except OU last year.

Mizzou and Aggy aren’t on the schedule and only one of the replacements has any horses on the DL. The league just isn’t equipped to stop Power running games. Most linebackers aren’t skilled or practiced at it and a lot of teams don’t have the beef up front.

Consider the departing Nose tackles from last year: Dominique Howard, Ray Kibble, Ruempolhamer, Jerod-Eddie, DJ Yendrey, Baptiste, etc. Lots of big bodies moving on. Are there more big guys ready to step in around the league? Maybe, maybe not.

by Nickel Rover on May 11, 2025 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

All valid points...again my concern is that our O line has got to give our QB a little more time....

Part of our weak passing game was how little time we had before the pocket collapsed. If we have better pass blocking our passing will improve and the run game will explode exponentially. No one really feared our pass game last year for a variety of reasons including our inability to maintain our blocks.

Our run game should be fantastic, unless our QB doesn’t have time to set up and make completions. If this happens we’re back to Missouri and aTM type games.

What I’m saying is I am a believer that the passing game sets up and allows the run game to explode.

Karl..... Schiefen sie die fenster......SHOOT the GLASS

by MeatchickenHorn on May 11, 2025 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

ah, nice distinction

should have read more closely. But that said, our passing game is mostly Play-action, screens, and quick slants. All of those are set up by success in the running game.

Against OU and OSU we’ll want our pass-protection to be better, so I suppose your point stands. We’ll see what Hawkins can handle on his own. If OU’s Washington eats our lunch in a 4-man rush that’s trouble.

by Nickel Rover on May 11, 2025 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  


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