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I've been excited to see that Harsin is more than willing to adapt his system to reflect the skills of the athletes he has available here in Texas or perhaps more succinctly, the Boise system is not about specific plays so much as it is an approach of attacking the entire field with all available resources.

This is a pretty big resource.

Here was The Jesus on Tyrone from last summer.

Discuss.

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BOOM.

I know that word is most closely associated with Muschamp, who is no longer with us, but since we have yet to adopt another pithy phrase that’s equally well suited to expressing the pure, visceral kick-assitude of moments like this, let me reiterate -

BOOM.

by nobis60 on Feb 17, 2026 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

This is the guy I wanted

It’s so much easier to make use of a QB who is a dominant runner than it is a QB who can throw.
Pairing Swoopes with our backs and developing OL in the Read-option game is a lethal combo.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 11:46 AM CST reply actions  

I've typically had little interest in trying to back one QB over another when I have limited info

But from what we know about Harsinwhite so far, I’d say that a lot of their offensive philosophy can be boiled down to “put pressure on you in a variety of devious and mutually re-inforcing ways in the run game, then exploit your personnel/alignment decisions and punish your overplay with the pass game.” Even in Year One, we saw how much easy, easy candy is available up the seam and in other spots - you don’t have to be Aaron Rodgers to make hay throwing the ball in this offense. If you’ve got a QB who can add even more layers and dynamism to the run game, there will be even more ripe and delicious low-hanging pass game fruit upon which to dine. Even slow, steady and measured progress in Swoopes’ passing accuracy combined with reasonable decision-making should allow him - and the offense as a whole - to be straight hell on wheels as our talent level, experience and functional conditioning continue their rise to elite levels.

In short, daddy likey.

by nobis60 on Feb 17, 2026 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I usually reserve opinions on QB’s until I can see them make decisions in collegiate games. But in terms of athletic ability, I prefer the runners.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

with both of you guys. He’s still got another year of HS and probably a RS year at Texas to refine his passing enough, and he’ll have some big old boys to heave it to and possibly both Bergeron and Gray to hand it too as well in 2014. I’m assuming we get at least one of RSJ and Smythe, but both would not surprise me.

Nickel, are there any possibilities for grayshirts in this class, or did the numbers we took last year put that outside the rules? Ignore 85 limit in your response, since that is always a limiting factor but controllable by attrirtion.

by boorad on Feb 17, 2026 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

I think a lot of the hesitation from Team Barrett stems from the fact that they’re mostly watching the kid’s sophomore film. The relevant question isn’t how good he was in 2010 but rather how good he’ll be in 2015. Harsin put the kid through drills and that sold him on Swoopes, which tells me the film is only good for a glimpse at the kid’s ceiling.

And bless his heart, but Jesus didn’t do the kid any favors introducing Tyrone to the masses by putting that soph film next to VY’s senior film.

by Dagga Roosta on Feb 17, 2026 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I stopped worrying

about any potential deficiencies in his overall game or the competition level when Urban Meyer, who signed both Tebow and Cam Newton out of high school, offered Tyrone.

by boorad on Feb 17, 2026 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea

Roster manipulation and attrition aren’t my forte. Anyone with more expertise have an answer?

I know that with grayshirts you are looking for kids that A). Want to play for Texas enough that the pride hit won’t sting too bad and B). Have the means to pay for their education without a scholarship.

Seems like typically grayshirts go to, um, Lake Travis-type kids.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree on the LT thing

but I was specifically thinking of Naashon Hughes when I typed that. Thanks for response.

by boorad on Feb 17, 2026 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Grayshirts dont have to pay for school...

they can just take fall off from school or even go to community college and then enroll in January…its mostly a pride issue

"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011

by TowerPower on Feb 17, 2026 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

4 down 6 to go...

Who’s next Samples, RSJ, Perkins, James, Hicks, Manning….

"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011

by TowerPower on Feb 17, 2026 12:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Mars Blackmon say

Ricky Seals and Crofts Jones may be next.

by Sailor Ripley on Feb 17, 2026 12:17 PM CST reply actions  

He literally looks like he's playing against Pop Warner teams in all his film

Thats not necessarily a knock on the competition level. The competition leaves a lot to be desired, but Swoopes is also dominant.

by Texastough on Feb 17, 2026 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

Let the melt down commence on TexAgs and Beergut!

"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp

by Snide Aside on Feb 17, 2026 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

They said he wasn't "SEC good."

Love it.

"Most of my clichés aren't original." -Chuck Knox

by Dustin Brockelman on Feb 17, 2026 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

yeah, but in fairness...

as far as we know, Bama and LSU were really only “SEC good” prior to the Agroid era…

by Pflash on Feb 17, 2026 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Great commitment but some concerns

Never pass up a recruit like this so I’m extremely happy.

However, I do not want to see us move back towards a zone-read spread offense. We left that for a reason. We don’t have the best stable of RBs in the country for nothing.

I would like to see us run a modified Pistol type O which allows for power running and read-option attacks. Multiple is better. Swoopes is going to need at least 2 years to develop his passing game and ability to read defenses in college. I trust Harsin will be able to develop him into a great all-around QB.

by STLaw on Feb 17, 2026 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

Yes to pistol

and Power/Option-based football.

I have zero problem with the zone-spread offense but I think that what you’re suggesting is a better match for Harsin’s preferred style AND the personnel on hand.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Understand the

concern but there is nothing in Harsin’s past that would make you believe zone read is a possibility. He can now play a numbers game at the point of attack with a dual threat QB. That’s pretty exciting.

by b&g80; on Feb 17, 2026 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I was mainly talking about some of the things that writers were saying. I personally don’t believe Harsin or Applewhite would go back to the spread. I think they stay multiple. Which is just fine with me.

by STLaw on Feb 17, 2026 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I think at the core

Harsin as an offensive architect is less about a particular scheme and more about a philosophy of using formation and maximizing his players’ skill sets to probe, probe, make the defenders and the opposing DCs reveal their reactions, preferences and tendencies and then ruthlessly exploiting them. I wouldn’t waste much time worrying about spread vs zone read vs two backs vs A11 (although A11 is probably pretty unlikely) and just greedily look forward to the torture that Harsin can inflict on defenses with a tremendous dual-threat weapon. On the dual-threat tip, if we can finally get around to putting one or two dual-threat TEs on the field we should REALLY see some fireworks - to me that’s the biggest personnel deficiency we faced last year in run-game execution relative to how Harsin was able to operate at Boise.

On that note, someone tell Longhorn Scott to get over here and expound more cogently than I can!

by nobis60 on Feb 17, 2026 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

On the TE

I fully agree. That’s why I believe Smythe is mucho importanto in this class. RSJ may wind up there but Durham is the prototype and if MJ works out, we don’t necessarily need to use RSJ in a traditional TE role. More of an Aaron Hernandez.type who can certainly block, but was used in various ways at UF and NE.

by boorad on Feb 17, 2026 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Dead on about TE

If we can get true dual threat TEs in here, the whole offense goes to another level.

by STLaw on Feb 17, 2026 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

i disagree

the problems our offense had wasn’t because of any limitations of the spread-to-run concept. They were because we had recruited poorly and had a man with no imagination formulating it.

"If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."

by RedmondLonghorn on Feb 17, 2026 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing in his post

suggested that there was a schematic flaw in the spread philosophies. Just that we left it for a reason, which is implied to be our possesion of power-football personnel.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

See what you are saying

but I also think spread offense principles can work very effectively within a more power based attack.

"If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."

by RedmondLonghorn on Feb 17, 2026 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

and now I see above

that both you and he were expounding the same ideas, in the context of a pistol-based offense.

So there isn’t a disagreement, except maybe over semantics.

"If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."

by RedmondLonghorn on Feb 17, 2026 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

confused me at first as well.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No flaw with the spread

just that everyone is picking up on it now. Defenses in the Big 12 are becoming familiar with the spread scheme since it is so popular.

However, a Pistol or modified Pistol would work well. Defenses can scheme all day to stop the run but when the right pieces are in place, you can run it down their throats anyways. See Bama 2009. Plus, the Pistol gives us the option to have a running QB on the field as well. Stack the box, we hit you deep.

However, I don’t get paid millions to make these decisions

by STLaw on Feb 17, 2026 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Congrats you got a good one

If it ain't 2,000 words long, I ain't posting it.

by Eric Murtaugh on Feb 17, 2026 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

The staff's approach to Spring recruiting has been great.

I’m really curious to see how Tyrone progresses as a passer this year.

by Scipio Tex on Feb 17, 2026 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Agree. I think this is a huge point. A much lower pressure approach for the kids....

and yet we see that the studs are still coming. I would hope this approach only makes them more certain this is the right choice.

by Nunna Yo Bizness on Feb 17, 2026 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps

Mack was hesitant to dull his greatest sales weapon, the fear of loss, and that’s why he was hesitant to adopt this approach.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe so. Of course that means Mack was operating out of fear also. Fear of not.....

being able to simply use playing at a premier program in country as your sales draw without introducing the fear component on the players.

by Nunna Yo Bizness on Feb 17, 2026 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure

maybe so.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 17, 2026 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

that the new blood and the experience of the last recruiting cycle has let Mack realize that while he may be rebuilding on the field, he’s not rebuilding the program anymore. Back when he first took over, early recruiting was a useful way to create a sense of scarcity and urgency for kids who were considering Texas. We needed that because the best kids in-state at the time were going to Miami and Nebraska and A&M. It worked, and pretty soon we were dominating the Texas scene. But Mack started an arms race. And today it’s long past the point where early recruiting reaps positive benefits. Schools today are just hoping to get in on the action before it’s gone.

And when you’ve gotten to the point where you’re the top choice for enough kids to regularly field Top 5 classes, really, you don’t have to worry about getting in under the wire. You’re the bar those other schools are trying to jump before the clock runs out. When you’re the standard-bearer in a kid’s eyes, you can stop striving to get their attention now now now. You’ve had their attention for years already. That frees you up to be more considerate, both in your offers and in the treatment of the kids.

Just ask any beautiful model. Chances are they had an ugly-duckling phase, and they know something about learning to play it coy when they suddenly gain more suitors.

by Dagga Roosta on Feb 17, 2026 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

2 Types of Fear

Fear you get from not being a top program, and that same fear where you get paid like 6 million a year.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Feb 17, 2026 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Max Olson @max_olson:

Ricky Seals Jones’ father tells HornsNation his son is "holding off" on a decision

Must be giving Swoopes the spot light, hopefully we’ll get his commitment on Monday…

"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011

by TowerPower on Feb 17, 2026 3:08 PM CST reply actions  


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