Texas Wins Lone Star Showdown Over A&M;: GTFO tour completed

by Scipio Tex on Apr 30, 2025 5:24 PM CDT in Texas Longhorns and Other Football

Aggies laughing and pointing. The irony.

Although a moribund (by Augie's high standards) Texas baseball team suffered an uncharacteristic series loss to the Aggies last weekend (I believe we had won 137 straight games against them previously - I didn't verify that statistic) our softball team won their series and our lady golfers plied their nine irons like warrior poets in capri pants.

That puts the Longhorns up 11-6 with superfluous men and women's outdoor track competitions left to complete.

GTFO tour is now over. Buy the t-shirt. It won't be back anytime soon.

Truthfully, The Lone Star Showdown never really resonated with Longhorn fans.

Perhaps because it suggested that A&M was a measuring stick for us and we don't like that; the Aggies use Texas as their metric, Texas fans prefer to use the region or nation. They pursue, we ignore. That's how it works. They come into our room and taunt us, we ignore them, eventually we get irritated and chase them down the hall and beat their ass before they can make it to sanctuary with Mom.

Perhaps it didn't resonate because of the 19 points awarded, only 3 of them were in men's football, basketball, and baseball. No sensible Longhorn or Aggie weighs it like that, outside of Bill Byrne. That's 16% of the value equation when my own personal calculus has those sports at 99% (let's say football 65, basketball 30, baseball 4). Yet, track accounts for 6 of the 19 points available. Please.

No, the Lone Star Showdown's value is what any comparison's value is between Texas and A&M: its ability to torture Aggies, build on their insecurity complex, and force them into irrational and hilarious behaviors on the internet and at Thanksgiving dinner. It's not about elevating us so much as picking on them and sending them off into careening paroxysms of inadequacy. The Lone Star Showdown is compelling to us to the extent to which it needles our Aggie neighbors, co-workers, and may-God-help-you: relatives.

Does that make us shallow opportunists? Sure!

And right now, given the charred landscape of goodwill between Longhorns and Aggies during their SEC departure tour, and the sweet amusement of their expectational comeuppances on the national stage (which have happened in profoundly Aggie-like ways), Longhorn fans find themselves with renewed interest in any ammunition they can use to heap humiliation on the Aggie's departure.

Who doesn't want to squirt a little kerosene to keep a car-fire going?

Here's my stream of accelerant:

If the Lone Star Showdown was meant to be an overall referendum on head-to-head overall athletic health between two rival schools, Bill Byrne's massive, debt-inducing expenditures on secondary and tertiary revenue draining sports didn't pay off. The final result of the 9 year contest stands at 7-2, Longhorns. And the actual W-L record (the previous season's winner retains in case of tie) had the Aggies only winning one year outright, with two ties. A 1-6-2 record won't get you into even A&M's typical bowl game.

Oddly, this was during a time period in which the Longhorns found themselves massively underperforming in a number of sports in which we're traditionally strong (Plonsky's AD buffoonery + two year football meltdown) while A&M was at its peak - at least in the non-revenue stuff no one watches.

But despite all of that, the final results were still heavily in favor of Texas.

The cosmic punchline never changes.

It's just another goodbye to A&M.

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When my Michigan relatives ask what the hell is going on with A&M;

I simply reply

Texas = Michigan

A&M = Michigan State

Oklahoma = Ohio State

They just simply nod knowingly.

by srr50 on Apr 30, 2025 5:36 PM CDT reply actions

Having just moved up north, I realize this is a perfectly apt comparison.

Listening to Michigan State fans (who adorably call their school “state”) talk about Michigan just like Aggies talk about tu makes me feel like I’m back in Texas again.

by pleaseplaykindle on Apr 30, 2025 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions

While Michigan State certainly has an inferiority complex . . .

I lived in Lansing back in the 80s and I found the Aggies’ depravity dwarfed that of the Spartans’ . . . Michigan State at least had the 10-10 tie with Notre Dame in 66 . . .and Magic Johnson . . . and Tom Izzo. Although living in the Wolverines shadow, the Spartans actually have some athletic highlights that don’t involve Michigan.

What does A&M have that doesn’t involve Texas? . . . the upset of Bama in the Cotton Bowl after the 67 season? . . . ummm . . . I’m pretty sure I can fit it on one hand.

And that doesn’t even touch on the corps.

by Cirque Du Salado on May 1, 2025 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions

The little brother thing is really the only commonality.

The key difference is that Michigan State fans don’t have the sheep mentality that the Aggies have in either sense of the term.

by BurntOrangeJuice on May 1, 2025 9:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Good point re: basketball

My post was wrongly football-centric. MSU’s basketball program has had its share of non-UM-related success.

And of course, no one anywhere has replicated the corps.

by pleaseplaykindle on May 1, 2025 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

GTFO!

One of the most hilarious aspects of the ags leaving the conference is that some of the dumb f*cks actually think a vast majority of Texas fans are upset they are leaving and want Deloss to somehow keep the Thanksgiving Day game on the schedule.

These agrarian rednecks simply don’t understand GFTO doesn’t mean “oh please, please stay!” They don’t understand we are sick and tired of their whining and always playing the victim when they lose.FYI- you jackasses, there is no great intergenerational conspiracy where every person who dons a striped jersey is out to get you in exchange for bribes from UT athletics.

If Deloss (or his successor) even hints at putting the ags back on the schedule I will personally start the movement to have him fired. When the bonfire killed your students we cancelled our pep rally to hold a memorial ceremony. At halftime of the game, our band played Taps and Amazing grace in memoriam. On the way off the field, the band dipped to UT banner and raised an a&m banner in a show of humility and respect. The next year, along with Rice, we pushed to have a&m admitted in the AAU. In short, we have come together when times called for it, we have treated you as an equal and with respect and we have done what we could to help you achieve whatever distinctions we could. To return the favor, when you left the conference you made it personal, attacked the University and its administrators and acted like the classless assclowns you are. LEAVE AND GTFO.

by Randolph Duke on Apr 30, 2025 6:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs

I know that green is a scary color...

…but this should be green.

by danielt on May 1, 2025 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions

The 2011 football game halftime was similar

Our band spelled out “Thanks aTm” and played… oh I forget the song, but something about thanks for the memories or something. It was classy and respectful. Much more respectful than many Longhorn fans would have even preferred at that point in our relationship with A&M.

Then the A&M band formed a longhorn and proceeded to “saw them off”. Huh, classy.

Just another example (as if more were needed) of their little brother syndrome. They define their athletics by hating us. We define our athletics by how we stack up in wins and losses against the best across the country.

It was like we were filing the divorce papers here. The Texas band went out and said, “Hey, sorry it’s ending like this. We had some good times together over the years. Thanks for that. Good luck wherever you find yourself in the future, and maybe we can both be happier separated from each other.” A&M (the one in the relationship who had slept around, lied about it, got caught red-handed, then come clean and filed for the divorce) responded, “Fuck you, asshole! You can go fuck yourself for all I care!” Ummmm, yep, classy. We tried being polite. GTFO sounds about right after all their asshattery.

"ABC welcomes you back to Vince Young Field"
-Rose Bowl sign

by Andrew Wiggin on May 1, 2025 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions

No sensible Longhorn or Aggie weighs it like that, outside of Bill Byrne.

This sentence confuses me.

Follow @BarkingCarnival

by Sailor Ripley on Apr 30, 2025 6:59 PM CDT reply actions

That it implies Bill Byrne is sensible?

by Teamdirtyleg on May 2, 2025 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions

maybe this is a stupid question.

and I damn sure don’t care about women’s tennis, but can someone explain to me how the Texas women’s tennis team beats aggy in the Big 12 championship final, yet a&m gets the point for the Lone Star Beatdown?

"Life is tough; it's tougher when you're stupid."

by TexasGangorDie on Apr 30, 2025 7:08 PM CDT reply actions

Aggy won the regular season match, which is what count in the LS

by srr50 on Apr 30, 2025 7:22 PM CDT reply actions

ah. makes sense

"Life is tough; it's tougher when you're stupid."

by TexasGangorDie on Apr 30, 2025 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Plonsky

How much longer will she be allowed to make bad decisions?

by j_java on Apr 30, 2025 7:52 PM CDT reply actions

That's a good question

Honestly, the fact that she’s around still butchering hires is evidence that we don’t take women’s sports seriously. Despite whatever funding and support we may give them.

by Scipio Tex on Apr 30, 2025 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions

DeLoss' Coaching Decisions

Over time, Dodds has not been a particularly good chooser of coaches, either. He was over-ruled to bring in Mack instead of Barnett. He’s responsible for Weltlich and Mackovic which were disastrous (obviously disastrous) choices.

If I recall correctly, when Dodds was announced as a Longhorn Hall of Honor inductee at a football game maybe ten years ago, they had to make sure Earl Campbell and maybe a few other UT heroes of the past were on the field to prevent booing.

I’ve encountered Dodds once in public on a night when the Texas basketball team had one a big victory. I congratulated him and shook his hand. I don’t deny that he has evidently done some great things for Texas, but his tenure has been far from flawless and likely short of brilliant.

by RomaVicta on Apr 30, 2025 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions

All true.

It’s surprising that he survived Mackovic.

by Scipio Tex on May 1, 2025 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions

All our choices are half chance

It’s a good thing to remember when evaluating high-level decision-makers - as well as any time you’re feeling too cocky or too down on yourself.

With that said, I think the defining element of DeLoss’ tenure was well illustrated in that ‘Longhorns, Inc.’ cover article in Texas Monthly a couple years ago. He took a rag-tag assortment of different athletic fund-raising programs and brought them all under a common roof (the Longhorn Foundation) while limiting the number of scholarship athletic programs (20, vs 31 at Ohio State) and maximizing revenues every way possible (GONG!) to ensure that every one of those 20 programs would have the best of everything that money could buy.

Dodds built a tremendous money machine, and while his hiring track record has been hit-or-miss he’s made a massive contribution to the overall strength and foundation of the Texas athletics brand.

One other interesting point in that article was that Plonsky was hired away from the Big East after a tour as SID in the 80’s in order to greatly expand the ‘sponsorship relationships’ with anyone and everyone who was willing to send money Texas’ way. Plonsky holds her position solely due to creative revenue and sponsorship work, not because she has clue damn one as to how to administer the athletic side of the equation.

by nobis60 on May 1, 2025 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

That article was amazing

Also illuminated how successful Deloss was at breaking up the good ole boy network, while not damaging too many feelings and keeping many of them within the fold. If I am not mistaken, before Dodds, there used to be a committee of boosters who met at the end of each year and arbitrarily decided what each coach’s bonus would be.

As you said - Dodds turned a ragtag joke of an organization into something so organized and ruthless, that it now seems more like a professional athletics organization than a collegiate one.

by Big(g) Ern on May 1, 2025 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree

that the Dodds and Co. have excelled in the money aspects of the program. I also agree that the amount of revenue being brought in is a generally stabilizing and positive force for UT athletics.

However I do wish some more emphasis would be placed on actual athletics performance building. I’m not sure this has been the priority that it should be.

by Monahorns on May 1, 2025 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I think the jury is out

If Dodds and others played a large role in forcing Mack’s hand to fire the majority of his staff, then I would say the emphasis is there.

As for other sports, I get the Plonsky argument but frankly could care less about women’s sports.

I too want better results for basketball, but I think Dodds understands that Barnes is probably entering a crucial two year stretch. Without improvement, I think Barnes leaves.

by Big(g) Ern on May 1, 2025 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I recently moved in to a position where I have to hire people. I cant agree more. It is difficult to make a good hire based on limited information. You make an educated guess and hope to get lucky. It is then even more difficult to get rid of someone when you find out they can’t do their job up to your standards.

by UT_BKC on May 1, 2025 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions

True it's difficult

But you’re judged on the decisions you make, not the difficulty of making them. I appreciate the tone of this discussion and assume my post is not read as a hate DeLoss post. He’s done some great things money-wise and we have ultimately ended up with FB and Baseball coaches who have won national championships.

There are other decisions, particularly his inclinations in choosing coaches, that must be put in the balance. Our minor sports aren’t performing as well as we would like and got accustomed to. There’s room for improvement even now.

Perhaps Dodds and Plonsky have built durable platforms that will support consistent success in the future. I don’t want to wait too long for that future.

by RomaVicta on May 1, 2025 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

It wasn't just that fund-raising was a rag-tag effort

the football and basketball coaches contract situations were a minefield that could have blown up and created a real mess. Basically they were on their own when it came to outside income — anything they could raise in radio and TV revenue was theirs, but they were also responsible for the expenses created by those shows. The position of Head Coach at Texas has enough on its plate that you don’t need to be worried about creating outside income as well.

It meant the coaches were spending precious time overseeing their radio and TV shows, and it meant that their main function wasn’t always first on their agenda. It meant they were hitting a lot of the same big cigars that the athletic department was also asking money from, and it just caused confusion and bad feelings, as well as creating potential conflicts of interests.

Deloss was at the forefront of the movement to bring in a third party to handle all aspects of the media-related income for an Athletic Department and essentially make it a “turnkey” operation. We began to pay an annual set amount for outside income and let the third party (Host Communications, IMG, etc) handle all the details for a fee or part of the ad revenue.

It’s a big deal, and when combined with the streamlined fundraising template, it is a key part of why Texas was so well positioned to take advantage of the success Mack (and Rick) brought to the program.

by srr50 on May 1, 2025 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think the Longhorns, as well as the rest of the conference, were gracious during the time of A&M;'s tragedy

I also don’t think any of us were anyway trying to be magnanimous in the discussion of it.

It had nothing to do with A&M’s abandoning the conference, it’s so called “traditions”, it’s history in Texas and the, and yes, it’s relationship with UT.

A&M has not just abandoned it’s sports history, it has abandoned the state of Texas, and all of the state’s college institutions. I would wager, if the student body was polled, we would find it split on the move to the SEC. But, alas, A&M’s leadership has been occupied! There has always been a contingent of neurotic “Good old boys” imbedded within the institution’s culture - the roots of which originally resided within the Corps.

The Wilsons and the Stallings have, unfortunately, prevailed and have finally eviscerated a fine university. By retreating and running to the SEC, what A&M is doing is not admirable - it is stupid! It is not brave - it is cowardly! It is not bold - it is pathetic!

If all of us are honest and able to not let hurt feelings prevail - we know that the Aggies are part of us and always will be.

The sadness of this - at least for A&M, is they will always be under the shadow of Texas and the SEC, the NFL or the U.S. Marines cannot ever change that.

So, we are left with one thing to say to them - GTFO, collieville cowards!

"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp

by Snide Aside on Apr 30, 2025 8:01 PM CDT reply actions

they took the easy way out

The ags wanted a promise that tomorrow would be better than today. Instead of looking at themselves and asking what they had to do to recruit better and perform better, they took the easy way out, placed the blame on UT and switched conferences. The faithful believe that the school will do better in the SECOND without having to be honest and make some changes they have long needed to make.

Aggie allowed Sherrill to cheat in order to have a record of short term success. Even today they crow about their Honor Code just as they pine for the leadership and success of a cheater. Maybe if they had stood up, vacated the wins in 1994 and said they will live by their Honor Code they would inspire young athletes. Maybe if they took responsibility for their lack of success and didn’t blame “bribed referees” for losses or “media conspiracies” for unflattering press, they would be more respected.

TAMU will fare no better until they quit blaming others for their shortcomings regardless of which conference they choose to affiliate with. Texas, OU, USC, ND, etc,etc do well because they realize their failures are their own fault.

TAMU hasn’t accepted they alone are responsible for their long term .500 record. Until they quit blaming everyone else, all they will be is another program that doesn’t care enough about excellence to achieve it.

by Randolph Duke on Apr 30, 2025 8:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

The silliness of the Aggies' move

(and I apologize for beating a very dead collie, er, horse) . . .

is that:

1. It was made because of football. Not other reason. No other sport. Football. It won’t hel hoops, hardball, women’s sports, track and field.
2. To succeed in football in the Big 12, the Aggies needed to beat two schools — Texas and Oklahoma. That’s all. No league title game.
3. To succeed in the SEC, the Aggies must beat at least three of the following — Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Alabama. Sometimes, there’s an East Divsion team they would have to beat. AND, if they accomplish that, then they must beat an East team in the title game.
4. Texas, OU, Tech and Baylor are likely to help the Aggies load up the Kyle Field stands. LSU and probably Arkansas will do the same. The rest? Depends on who’s hot, who’s not, bunch of other factors.
5. For the most part, Big 12 teams play by the rules. They don’t oversign, they don’t sneak in non-qualifiers.
6. Texas A&M reduced its chances of recruiting Texas high school talent as an SEC member. Family and friends will have a harder time getting to games, will have a harder time getting tickets, will be less likely to encounter family members in states like Alabama, Arkansas and Mississippi.

Other than that, joining the SEC is a hellvua smart move.

by edsp on Apr 30, 2025 10:34 PM CDT reply actions

Fullmer Cup

In addition to their other titles, the SEC has won 3 of the last 4 Fullmer Cups. As far as I know, is the only conference in the country with a school under an active FBI investigation centered on its athletics program (Auburn for the basketball point shaving scandal).

Screw aggy. Let them enjoy their new adventure. Just don’t let them try to tell anyone in Texas they have some bullsh*t tradition, honor or that they stand for anything important. They showed their class and honor on their way out the door.

by Randolph Duke on Apr 30, 2025 11:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

aggie administration

reminds me of the Nixon Whitehouse, a bunch of lying, cheating moutherf**kers, who see themselves as moral flag bearers.

Aggies = Washington Generals, alltime greatest losers.

Oh, Aggie, i forgot you were there. You may go.

Now GTFO.

by ole tnhorn on May 1, 2025 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Last ag comment

If I can help myself, this is the last time I intend to make any comments about the agricultural school.

They’re headed to the SEC, after turning their backs on everything that’s meant anything to them for a hundred years. I say good riddance. I’m not gonna miss those yokels, beyond the comic relief they’ve given us for years by being, yep, aggys. Otherwise, they’ve offended me for the last two years while they’ve stood around, waiting for a handout, all the while planning to leave the Big XII in a lurch, and doing their best to destroy the conference on the way out.

I’ve had some good friends who are ag fans. You can’t live in Texas and not mingle with ‘em. However, I don’t want to hear any more about agricultural’s love of their traditions. They showed how much they value those traditions by walking all over them while beating a retreat to the confederacy.

I don’t want to hear about aggy honor. They have none. They represented themselves as solid members of the Big XII, all the while whispering sweet nothings in SEC ears, all while accepting millions of dollars to honor their Big XII commitment. It’s obvious now that aggy’s commitment is worth about as much as a confederate dollar.

It would have been one thing if officials with the cow college had made known their plans to jump to the SEC and just done it, while keeping quiet. That’s not their way, however, so they trumped up a bunch of phony concerns about the LHN, and a supposed recruiting disadvantage to them it brought on, and wasted no opportunity to slam the University of Texas in any possible way on their way out.

I won’t miss anything about agricultural. I won’t miss UT playing them in any sport, and I’ll be angry as hell if UT schedules them in anything for what’s left of my lifetime. I think agricultural and the SEC deserve each other, and I’m not gonna be gracious in a phony way and wish them any success in that conference. I’m looking forward to enjoying their struggles, and hope that, if anything, they’re more irrelevant in the SEC than they were in the Big XII.

If I have any regrets about this whole thing, it’s that those bumpkins have hung around as long as they have…I wish they’d GTHO years ago. At least now, UT fans won’t have to explain them like some kind of weird uncle to other people…that’ll be up to the SEC. I just wonder if folks over there know yet what they’ve done to themselves by cozying up to agricultural?

Now that I’ve gotten that off of my chest, I don’t intend to bring them up again. They’re like a bad dream that I just woke up from.

"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." (Jimmy Buffett)

by coolhorn on May 1, 2025 12:57 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs

I would like to add to this, but, hell, you've pretty well nailed it.

The only thing I would say is there are more level headed aggies that are angry about the move than you know. Unfortunately, they will all be condemened because of the actions of some idiots that have actually bought in to their propaganda.

"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp

by Snide Aside on May 1, 2025 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Here is another reason we should be glad they are gone and a probable reason why Beergut is gone!

I have no interest in playing them again. They can go to hell for all I care. If texas is afraid to play us, fine, we don;t ever need to play them again. Those cowards can go f..k themselves
Beergut

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 1, 2025 10:19 AM CDT reply actions

Afraid

What fails in the “afraid to play us” line of logic is why, after 118 of not being afraid of playing them and fully dominating the series, should Texas have any concerns about playing them moving forward?

The argument that tamu is an up and coming program that should be feared by opponents is silly. We are talking about a program that won its first game ever against Galveston Ball High School. We are talking about a program that hasn’t finished ranked in the top 5 since 1956. Tamu isn’t a power school today, hasn’t been a power program at any time in our lives and isn’t going to be a power program anytime in the future. Their demands that they be treated with some level of importance are absurd. I, for one, am glad to be done with them and that we brought in two schools that have relevence and understand respect is earned, not gained by whining.

by Randolph Duke on May 1, 2025 10:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Considering the number of riots caused by the Corps after an Aggie loss

in the history of the series, I would say a fair amount of trepidation by fans attending the game is reasonable. But on the gridiron, not especially.

A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...

by bevosteve67 on May 1, 2025 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions

As an irony-deaf culture

It is interesting how the Aggies, the hard core/corps ones, can hold two opposing thoughts in their minds at the same time. As they run away from mean ol’ Texas they look over their shoulders and yell, “cowards!.”

It’s that way with everything. A few months ago, someone on Texags posted a picture of a section of the the old Rice oak tree that the Corps cut down in the 1970s. It was inscribed with a date and proud note about the vandalism. Someone else likened cutting that tree down with the poisoning of the Auburn trees. Immediately the second poster was cursed, the excuse was made that “those were different times,” the post comparing the two incidents was deleted and the poster banned.

Old army is nuts.

by RomaVicta on May 1, 2025 10:56 AM CDT reply actions

'Those were different times, and we cling to them like a drowning man on a life preserver'

The Aggies are going to love the SEC - I-20 is basically a magic time machine where you hop in your car in Dallas in the year 2012 and keep heading east until it’s basically the early ’60’s again. Of course, the Aggies weren’t any good in the early ’60’s, either, but the passage of time has a delightful way of muddying up inconvenient facts like that.

And there’s certainly a faction of Old Army that would be much more comfortable if the time machine could set them down any time prior to July 2, 1964.

by nobis60 on May 1, 2025 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m sad it is coming to an end. Some time and new leadership at both schools will renew the rivalry again in my opinion.

by ColoradoAg on May 1, 2025 10:59 AM CDT reply actions

I sincerely hope not.

Truly.

As a point of fact if Texas ever finds itself in a bowl game against aggy I hope like hell we choose to stay home. And no, that’s not because we’re afraid to play a&m, I just hate the idea of giving that fan base any sense of satisfaction.

by flamingmonkeyass on May 1, 2025 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

The rivalry existed when the two teams got together, the administrations of the schools enjoyed the support the alumni and the students enjoyed excitment the games generated. When aggy went personal claiming the administration of UT was dishonest, duplicitious and disreputable the rivalry became much less important. When Loftin and the BOR at tamu offers their public apologies to the students, alumni and administrators of UT and Bill Byrne apologizes to the students, alumni and administration of Tech for the bus vandalism lies, fences can begin to be mended. Lacking that, it will take a lot of time until the thought of working side by side with Loftin,etc on renewing any rivalry games can be entertained. They (Loftin and the tamu BOR) are not honorable people and can’t be trusted to act honorably moving forward.

by Randolph Duke on May 1, 2025 12:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

ColoradoAG - I suspect you comprise part of the sane Aggie population

I like you and I have enjoyed your reparte’ with us Longhorns. I really don’t think you have bought in to the hysterical hyhperbole of aggys like Beergut and his ilk.
I know my daughter and son-in-law haven’t and they are heartbroken that A&M has lost the competition with UT.
We longhorns are not without fault in this debacle - Dodds apparant lack of people skills are pretty damned evident. Diplomacy is not his forte’.

But, UT did not start this, this began with your schools history of freshmen orientations. The orientations interlaced with “Hate UT” propoganda. The leadership (read aggy board) still believe this shit!

The following remarks are harsh, but have validity:

TAMU will fare no better until they quit blaming others for their shortcomings regardless of which conference they choose to affiliate with. Texas, OU, USC, ND, etc,etc do well because they realize their failures are their own fault.
TAMU hasn’t accepted they alone are responsible for their long term .500 record. Until they quit blaming everyone else, all they will be is another program that doesn’t care enough about excellence to achieve it.

I hope you continue to visit these boards as I believe you are liked and well respected.

Hook ’em!

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 1, 2025 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions

A bowl game would be a lot of fun.

But I don’t think we’ll see the series renewed for a long while.

by Scipio Tex on May 1, 2025 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I will miss the relationships with the ags I like, like you and…. well I will miss you ColoradoAg.
But I will not miss the double-edged sword of this rivalry, where if we win then yeah, we were supposed to win. But if we lose then half the people I work with whoop it up for a year and generally make life miserable for everyone around them. That I will not miss.

by nordberg on May 1, 2025 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Don't worry ColoradoAg...

I am sure your rapier wit and sophisticated cocktail selections will be appreciated on LSU boards.

by Big(g) Ern on May 1, 2025 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Sane Ags?

Actually, there are plenty of them. I always distinguish between the insane core/corps of A&M and the students and alumni who are pretty much like students everywhere. I suspect that latter have become the majority, but they are tyrannized by the minority.

by RomaVicta on May 1, 2025 1:11 PM CDT reply actions

This!

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 1, 2025 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

'I suspect that latter have become the majority, but they are tyrannized by the minority.'

Why would this group be any different than the balance of American culture?

by ole tnhorn on May 2, 2025 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Well said - collieville could be a microcosm of the nation in general.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 2, 2025 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Hmmm

The nation could be a tyranny of the stupid.

A&M would be a tyranny of the stupidest.

For the good of the country, I hope there’s a distinction there.

by RomaVicta on May 2, 2025 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

LOL - Shall I mention Texas and who our leader is here and where he went to school?

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 2, 2025 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I think we’ll play again. It won’t be Dodds retiring that keys the renewal. Remember, Dodds has been AD for 30 years, and got along fine with Ag ADs Sherrill and Crow. It’s not personal, it’s business.

We’ll renew the series when the LHN is fully established and on all cable systems. Until then, we’re not going to do business with the Ags and let them have an opening to carp and whine about the LHN.

You say the LHN will never be established? OK. We’ll renew the series when we give up on it.

by TaylorTRoom on May 1, 2025 4:04 PM CDT reply actions