Positive Attrition: Are The Longhorns Sabanizing?
Among my favorite finely cut archetypes on the sports internets (along with Everyone Is A Douche/Everything Sucks Man and Socially Awkward-Fat-Dude-Who-Must-Explain-Why-Any-Attractive-Female-Celebrity-Is-Actually-Ugly) is the man who wrestles with how Texas can possibly offer more than seven football scholarships next year given the current scholarship allotment.
Class is gonna be tight, guys. I say we go 1 QB, 2 OL, 2 WRs, 2 DBs. We'll just have to play 2015 with 8 starters on defense.
Though they have been beaten into submission over time, they still crop up challenging any and all who dare to opine that the Longhorns can offer 20 scholarships with only 11 seniors graduating. THE MATH DOES NOT WORK, PEOPLE. ROSTERS ARE IMMUTABLE.
In their minds, program attrition - something which happens with more predictability than our sun rising and setting - is unlikely, and they cannot possibly conjure any scenario in which a player will get in trouble with the law; a player could get injured playing a violent game and not want to continue; coaches will tell a 4th teamer he'll never play here; or that Billy Joe can't make it to his Introduction to Sociology: White People Are Quite Mean class every Tues/Thurs.
Maybe it's because we never talk about it in realistic terms. We tip toe around the issue of attrition: for fear of offending the sensibilities of college age "kids"; because of our society's increasing discomfort with telling people "these are the standards, you're not good enough"; because of our unease acknowledging the truth that a college football program is more machine than family.
Just where does healthy roster churn stop and calculated Sabanization begin?
Seventeen players have transferred from Texas over the last 11 months. And we'll see another 2-3 before August.
Eighteen members of the 2009 and 2010 classes are already gone - gratuitous evidence of what we already knew: we were passing out scholarships with the due diligence of titty bar canvassers on the Vegas strip and our player development scheme could have been approximated with a membership at Gold's and a DVD of The Longest Yard.
This attrition, then, is a good thing. Resolution - even the unpleasant kind - always is. It's life's palette cleanser that lets you move on to the Chicken Vindaloo without dwelling on the Tikka Masala.
Carter Strickland of HornsNation nails it, IMO:
Of the 17, only two, Calvin Howell, who was forced to leave Texas after an arrest for possession of a controlled substance, and Nolan Brewster, who had to quit for medical reasons, might have contributed in 2012.
And:
The staff can push harder and if an older player who is used to coasting wants to leave, so be it, it will not adversely affect the product on the field. Essentially, the staff is telling the players they now have to prove their worth each and every day. In the past there was an attitude that if a player had received a scholarship, he was worthy enough to be a part of the team. Judging from the numbers, that attitude was pervasive.
We should hold a parade. Give the dragworms kazoos and the feral teens streamers. Shower these transfers in the Kerbey Lane pancakes that they never delivered on the field. Put these men on flatbeds and celebrate them as they make their way to Sam Houston State, Missouri, or a lucrative car detailing job in Duncanville. We should trumpet proper fits and second chances, and not speak about them in embarrassed, hushed tones.
No one is getting the trapdoor, SEC-style, either. Lack of talent, lack of maturity, a bad back, or acts of bitch-kicking all suss these things out. If you're not good enough, but you're willing to work hard, keep your nose clean, and your ego can deal with seeing true freshman leapfrog you on the depth chart, you can stay and graduate. If you're hurt-ish and realize that the soul-crushing grind of big time college football isn't for you, the medical redshirt is college football's equivalent of an honorable discharge.
No one will contend that attrition in our coaching staff was a bad thing. The same logic applies to the roster.
I say keep us just short of Sabanization (Saban short joke!) and far from the business as usual of the previous five years and the product will take care of itself.
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"Socially Awkward-Fat-Dude-Who-Must-Explain-Why-Any-Attractive-Female-Celebrity-Is-Actually-Ugly"
That would be me. Erin Andrews looks like Trev Alberts in drag. Angelina Jolie has a pan-face (as in, she looks like she got smashed in the face with a goddamned pan). And Jennifer Aniston is a beady-eyed Fraggle Rock puppet with a trademarked hairdo.
Kim Kardashian, on the other hand… drool
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
by BrickHorn on May 2, 2025 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
See I'm not a fan of KK
Or Angelina, but I like the other two.
Nothing to add to the article b/c it was spot on as usual. Thanks for the write up Scipio.
by Wulaw Horn on May 2, 2025 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Jesus, Brick, just how fat are you?
You just poo-pooed two of my favorite females (not Angelina, I’m with you on her). I can only rationalize this slight by assuming you are the quintessence of the described archetype.
by BurntOrangeJuice on May 2, 2025 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
But you're not fat
And your contempt for others isn’t really social awkwardness.
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty obvious from the fact that he's into Kim Kardashian.
Not too many fat chubby chasers. Fat guys that go after fat girls are pretty much just taking what they can get. Skinny guys who go after big girls just have a fetish.
by BurntOrangeJuice on May 2, 2025 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Kim Kardashian...
…is “chubby?” Maybe one part of her is chubby. Okay, three. But those are the three parts that are SUPPOSED to be chubby on a woman.
Also, she gives me a chubby. When I get home from work and slip into my Crocs, I’ll take a picture of it for you.
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
by BrickHorn on May 2, 2025 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I get home from work and slip into my Crocs
You went too far man
by mr.manager on May 2, 2025 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No thanks, Brick Favre.
Alright, she’s in shape now, but she’s got the body type that will require she work at it obsessively to keep it that way. I know because I have that body type, too. Plus, I was just retaliating for poo-pooing Jen and Erin.
by BurntOrangeJuice on May 2, 2025 6:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you have KK's "body type..."
…then I’m definitely sending you a Crocs & Cock shot. Look forward to that!
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
by BrickHorn on May 2, 2025 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Skinny guys who go after big girls just have a fetish.
Or happen to live in a trailer and have a meth habit.
by St. Stephen on May 2, 2025 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Check the math
The Horns have suffered high attrition yet they have (at most) 20 ‘ships available for 2013. How is that explained? If the trap door was being used, shouldn’t the ‘Horns be signing between 25 and 28 recruits in 2013? Isn’t “Sabanizing” defined by signing 25 or more recruits every year?
by Randolph Duke on May 2, 2025 4:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
not just signing that many
pulling the schollies of the ones that won’t see the field
by Texastough on May 2, 2025 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Pulling 'ships
If its clear the kid idn’t going to see any playing time but yet he is ok with riding the bench, haven’t they identified a kid that doesn’t care and has no motivation? Was the ofihginal agreement that if the kid quit caring he could skate along till his 4 years were up? Somehow, I think it was at least implied that if the kid quit trying, the experience was over.
by Randolph Duke on May 2, 2025 5:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
conventional wisdom says that Saban pulls ships indiscriminately, no matter if the kid's trying
by Texastough on May 2, 2025 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Right.
Saban’s trap door is more about cleaning up talent deficits and increasing Alabama’s at bats.
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
"No one is getting the trapdoor"
Yep, the main thing that has changed is much less tolerance for laziness/no motivation. Mack has always had low tolerance for stupidity/shenanigans.
I would also guess, however, that now the coaches are far more proactive about sitting down with guys they don’t see making big contributions and letting them know that. Not telling them to leave, just telling them where they stand.
All that said, we’re getting to the point where there’s not a lot of dead weight right now, so if significant attrition happens it will be likely be really disappointing. Getting rid of dead weight = good, star players bitch-kicking = bad. Although there are still some OL and a few other guys that are just taking up schollies.
by Texastough on May 2, 2025 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah
That’s how I see it too. I think our coaches are being very active in telling guys exactly where they fit in. Mack said as much in his last press conference.
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
This nails what wasn't being done 3, 4 years ago
Then, if a player wasn’t fitting in, the coaches just rolled their eyes and got out their putters for a game of who-makes-the-next-coffee-run.
The concept was (1) you stay; (2) you wait your turn; (3) your turn will come. Why? Because any young talent on the roster would be at step 1 while the fourth- or fifth-year player would be at step 3.
To me, that’s where the former assistant coaches lost touch; rather than determine if a player was somebody you could beat Oklahoma or Kansas State with, you just played the most experienced player available.
The one point I never understood was Mack Brown allowing so many little-used or never-used fifth-year players to stay around. These kids had four full seasons (that’s eight long semesters) plus 3-4 summers to complete course work. There was no need for them to stay for school, and there was little contribution to the football program other than experience and leadership. Experience and leadership are important — but they don’t block field goals or linebackers.
by edsp on May 2, 2025 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
My thoughts on Nick Saban wearing a suit:
I didn’t know that Gap Kids sold suits.
by pleaseplaykindle on May 2, 2025 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
"We’re trying to run a business here."
That is part of a quote from Florida AD Jeremy Foley about another issue (tracking collegiate athletes use of social media), but it really is at the heart of this situation as well.
Of course Foley will no doubt hear it from fellow athletic directors about actually admittingout loud that collegiate sports are indeed a business.
by srr50 on May 2, 2025 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
It's funny
Look at the NCAA’s entire advertising campaign about collegiate athletics championing higher graduation rates, GPAs vs regular students etc. Completely obfuscating the fact that those numbers are coming from the non-revenue generating sports that didn’t pay the bills for them to do the advertising to begin with.
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
What will we do with the 103 TE's we have on schollie?
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on May 2, 2025 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
That number is decreasing
and will continue to do so.
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
By my count
we’re down to 6 tight ends (and H-backs): Grant, McFarland, Daniels, Onyegbule, Poehlmann (if he’s still at TE) and Matthews. Grant, Luke and Barrett are seniors.
Miles may miss the season after his recent injury. The 28-man signing class did not include a tight end.
by edsp on May 2, 2025 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we also please never do this?
Justin Taylor of North Atlanta High School has been committed to Alabama for nearly a year, last February becoming the No. 7 pledge for this year’s class. The 5-foot-11, 208-pounder missed his senior season with a knee injury.
A couple of weeks ago, Taylor and his high school coach, former NFL RB Stanley Pritchett, both said they were informed by Alabama assistant Chris Rumph that it was likely that Taylor would not be able to sign with the Crimson Tide this February.
Source.
by pleaseplaykindle on May 2, 2025 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
saw the story on ajc.com
Saban said the commit “changed his mind.” Really? Was a commit for 9 months then magically “changed his mind” after his knee injury his senior year? Kentuck had no prob signing him up, obviously. See all the d-bags SEC! coached playing golf at Reynolds Plantation this week…feel like washing my hands…
by ATL Exile on May 2, 2025 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the collieville cowards are taking a page out of Saban's book
Do a preliminary evaluation of the country - based on other schools and the recruiting services. Then blanket the country with schollie offers and see how many accept, Do a final evaluation of those that accept and pull the offers from those we really don’t want.
Sounds like a plan to me.
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on May 2, 2025 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
"collieville cowards"
Are you entered into a bluster competition?
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...
I was a little confused by what a dragworm was so I clicked your link. I guess that the term has changed since you were here because now we all call them drag rats.
by CZW on May 2, 2025 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
When did dragworm become dragrat?
I need to know this. What else have you miscreants done to my memories?
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
No idea
I’ve been calling them that for coming up on 3 years now and I’ve never heard them called anything else.
by CZW on May 2, 2025 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I am disconcerted.
They were dragworms well into the late 1990s.
Why do you people feel the need to modify our disparaging, cruel nickname for the homeless?
by Scipio Tex on May 2, 2025 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm researching
but I can’t find a clear period when the term started shifting.
by CZW on May 2, 2025 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Rats
Rats became the term before 2001 when I got to UT. Also, when they started to stink up the UGL commandeer the computers to look at porn or read the huffington post, it became okay, nay compulsory, to disparage them.
by BurntOrangeJuice on May 2, 2025 6:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Walking down the drag to get to class?
ipod and sunglasses. problem solved.
by CZW on May 2, 2025 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
it was right around 99-00, but i dont know why
by UT_BKC on May 2, 2025 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
When I arrived to campus in 1996 I heard both terms, but dragrat was probably used 75%-80% of the time. By the time I graduated in 2001, dragworm was no longer being said.
by MountainDrew on May 2, 2025 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Sabanization painful?
I’d imagine removing one’s soul is pretty time-consuming. In Saban’s case it probably took a full minute.
by Average Fan on May 2, 2025 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
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