Beginning of the End of HS Football
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Wow.
We’re five years out from European style sport academies. We already have this in tennis (I stayed near a place in Tampa where 12 year olds go to school four hours a day and play tennis the rest) so I guess this was bound to happen.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 20, 2025 2:13 PM CDT reply actions
Soccer is already there
Pretty sure Ajax and a few other European clubs have opened academies in the US over the past decade in efforts to mine young US talent for the mothership. As you mentioned, they have long had similar schools in Europe but many are trying to move into what they see as an untapped market. The US Soccer Federation is also trying to set up (and may have already done so… not sure) similar academies in collaboration with MLS teams.
It makes sense from the professional standpoint as the kids all learn the club’s preferred system from an early age and receive consistent coaching instead of switching coaches/strategies every few years as they move clubs or schools. US Soccer has been adamant in saying that our current system has on over-reliance on games and not enough time is spent actually practicing fundamentals, leading to kids that are entirely unprepared for the national/international stage.
I am somewhat surprised that no NBA team has already tried this - although there would certainly be PR issues I am sure. Seems that the NBA could be suffering from a similar crisis as soccer where AAU kids are skipping steps and not learning good fundamentals before entering the NBA. On that note, if you are an NBA fan, ESPN’s Dave Telep had a great rant going on Twitter last night/this morning on this subject…
by Big(g) Ern on Jun 20, 2025 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Nick Bollettieri's camp?
I had several friends in high school who went there for a couple weeks every summer. I never did though. Too damn expensive. I went to the Katy ISD camp that cost $25 for a 2 week camp an hour a day. Yeah!!!
It’s hard to compare team sports and individual sports though.
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by Andrew Wiggin on Jun 20, 2025 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
hah
I went to the Katy ISD one too. Once won a free gatorade by hitting a pyramid of tennis balls on a serve. Greatest moment of my life.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jun 20, 2025 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite moment
So the instructors were mostly just assorted varsity kids off of local high schools. Each ran their own station on a court that the kids rotated through. One of the girl instructors’ drills was that she played the net and fed and rallied. The goal of the drill (as she laid it out) was to peg her. There were a few “Bring it!”s involved. Now as a 10 or 11 year old boy, this 17 or 18 year old girl’s challenge hit me straight in the pride. I pegged her. I hit a great shot just dipping over the net, right at her feet. She got it back in play but popped it up short. Came in and hit an overhead from about the service line and nailed her. Was the only kid in the camp to succeed at hitting her too, and there were boys 2 or 3 years older than me there. Probably the highlight of my life right there. Kinda hard not to feel like a dick in hindsight though…
Oh and I also kicked the crap out of everyone in the “who can pick up the most balls at the end of the day” competitions! Forget sky ball, that was real game, and I kicked ass! Totally showed everyone what for. Gotta love being manipulated.
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by Andrew Wiggin on Jun 20, 2025 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, I went to that camp too.
So much nostalgia in your comment for me.
by mr.manager on Jun 20, 2025 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I still have several t-shirts from that camp.
Can’t say I ever wear them or that they probably even fit me, seeing as I was in middle school or younger when I got them, but I still have ’em in the back of my closet nonetheless. Nostalgia indeed. I teared up a little writing that comment.
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by Andrew Wiggin on Jun 21, 2025 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it was Saddlebrook
Can’t remember.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 20, 2025 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought this was going to be an article about CTE not IMG
Some things you just don’t fuck with. High School football is one. I have a feeling the political backlash from this thing will be fast and furious. Just wait until small Texas towns start seeing their best players taken for some football academy in Dallas.
by texitect on Jun 20, 2025 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
An awesomely bad idea
I stand opposed to anything that threatens Texas high school football. It doesn’t matter that IMG’s academy is going to be in Florida…the idea of those kinds of academies is likely to spread like the Bird Flu, and Texas will surely be one of the next two targets.
I am curious as to who the academy teams will play…surely, the UIL will prohibit any competition between the academies and UIL member schools, and I’d be surprised if the market in this state would support more than a few such academies. I’ll echo a comment above…I seriously hope the political and economic backlash is enough to kill the idea in Texas, or anywhere else. The UIL was formed, in part, to keep local high school teams from recruiting players from other towns…it would be much worse to let corporately-sponsored academies recruit to their hearts’ content.
Some ideas don’t pass the smell test from the get-go…the IMG academy idea ranks up there with the worst ideas…high school football anywhere must remain an amateur sport.
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by coolhorn on Jun 20, 2025 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
Just curious...
Are you opposed to this on principle in other sports as well?
I think it is a mighty difficult decision for parents if you have a kid who at an early age is athletic enough and shows the desire to compete at a high level and is offered free schooling / room and board at a school that would offer a great education and premier coaching in the sport.
I know that is separate from what IMG is doing, but I tend to agree with Scipio’s point that things are heading this direction. In the case of most of the European academies, the kids are getting elite educations and also getting the best possible chance of succeeding at making it professionally - all at no charge to the parents. The costs are mostly social - the kids are separated from their families and friends at an early age - but in some scenarios, that might be a benefit.
by Big(g) Ern on Jun 20, 2025 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Great education?!?!?!?
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The kids might be able to add 2+2 but probably cant mulitple 2×2.
by RQ on Jun 20, 2025 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The European sports academies...
and the soccer academies that are operating in the US offer extremely good academics that are often said to be the equal of top notch private schools.
again, I said this is separate from what IMG is doing - i have no idea what sort of academics they plan on offering or if it will just be a football mill.
by Big(g) Ern on Jun 21, 2025 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
No Pass No Play
I take it won’t apply here. Also, won’t injuries be a greater risk with the more practice and time put in? What about being a kid and socialization?
by mdhorn on Jun 20, 2025 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what the US needs. more dumb jocks
by RQ on Jun 20, 2025 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
or it could be considered
a magnate school for sports.
by mdhorn on Jun 20, 2025 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
He's got this
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by Andrew Wiggin on Jun 20, 2025 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
magnet
Jesus. I was so concerned with the e at the end that I inserted an extra a. Sorry for polluting the board.
by mdhorn on Jun 20, 2025 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
This is BS!!!
The UIL needs to nip this in the bud and rule against any UIL playing ANY academy in any state. I also hope TAPS follows suit. Unfortunately I could see one setting up just across the river in OK becuse the OSAA has very lax rules, public and private schools play in the same division but with different rules, and the OSAA is just plain stupid.
Any coach who agrees to play an academy should be hog tied and his toe nails pulled out.
by RQ on Jun 20, 2025 4:59 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not so sure....
Programs like Prestonwood Christian Academy and Skyline aren’t already doing this on a smaller scale. But, they’re also not in it for the end game of representing the athlete at the professional level. This could indeed be a game changer and is on my radar. I’m not convinced it will catch on in Texas as the level of coaching and facilities is already higher than the other states. However, this thing could be a hit in a brokedown place like Florida among SEC recruiting grounds.
by dedfischer on Jun 20, 2025 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Home town pride will overcome this.
I would not invest in this scheme. Ive seen too many burnt out soccer kids.
Back when i was playing football the UIL would not even let you touch a football in spring. Your choice was track or whatever the Coaches could think up to keep you football tough and wishing you would have run track.
by 55f100tx on Jun 21, 2025 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Will Lyles' pants
just moved a little bit….
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by UTLawGrad on Jun 20, 2025 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
It seems to me
that this is not an issue for the UIL. As long as the NCAA has regulations that prohibit an amateur athlete from signing with an agent or receiving any compensation from one, how can this “academy” operate? All their graduates would be ineligible to play college ball.
The only kids that could go there are those that have the talent to jump from high school to the pros. Pretty rare bird in football. I think Coach Royal said he saw two, in Earl and Tommy Nobis. I suppose the other class of kids that could go there are those with no athletic ability whatsoever, and no hopes of getting into college.
Kind of narrows down their clientele, doesn’t it?
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by Longhorn in Canada on Jun 21, 2025 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
Good point.....
I’ve only seen one in high school, Adrian Peterson. I haven’t ever seen him play, but Mike Mitchell is more jacked than Peterson was. As a matter of fact, he’s more jacked than most college and several pro players I’ve seen.
by dedfischer on Jun 21, 2025 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Thinking it over
This could be shut down before it ever gets started if the NCAA would just come out and say that no “graduates” of an academy like this could play college ball.
Now "Longhorn in Mexico".
by Longhorn in Canada on Jun 22, 2025 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
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