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Marquise Goodwin's Role in 2012: Making Incomplete Dangerous

The Longhorn leaper broke the conference championship record this weekend on his first jump with a 26'10.5".

Goodwin is the only athlete in Big 12 history to win the indoor and outdoor long jump for two years running, but he has bigger fish and chips to fry in late summer and this Fall.

Qualifiers for the Olympic team begin June 21st in Eugene, OR for the right to compete for Team USA in London and Goodwin should do just that after a solid Spring track season. The games conclude August 12 and that gives Goodwin a little time to prepare for football if he can avoid English cooking and other distractions.

Star-divide

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That's Russian long jumper Darya Klishina, aka "other distractions."

So how to best use our track phenom for Team Longhorn after he does his work for Team USA?

Although his track training means he'll show up with more fast twitch than anyone on the field, he won't have off season reps catching balls, running routes, getting off of press coverage, building timing and trust with David Ash, and working on lateral acceleration and agility.

Marquise is a fascinating player because he embodies few of the stereotypes around track athletes playing football while some of his more subtle deficiencies prove that dominance at the receiver position has more to do with dexterity, stop-start speed, small space athleticism, flexibility, and body control than track dominance.

Let's talk about those attributes and how they feed into his best use in 2012.

Strengths

Toughness

Goodwin has never been a "track guy" with respect to toughness. Great attitude, consistently willing to mix it up.


Goodwin also carried the ball 22 times for 220 yards in 2011, and never shied from contact.

Hands

Also contrary to the track stereotype, Marquise has consistently shown good hands, first glimpsed against OU in 2009. He never uses his body to cradle, and reliably makes the easy catch while reeling in several tough balls every year.

Straight Line Speed

Once Goodwin squares his shoulders and gets two full strides, it's over. He has enough juice on the move to turn end arounds into positive gains with sheer foot speed. But he literally and metaphorically doesn't "hit his stride" until he's in ideal running form. Marquise is the anti-LaMichael James.

Weaknesses

Agility/Lateral acceleration

Goodwin has trouble getting the power in his engine to his wheels in a way that favors football geometry. He frequently rounds angles that quicker (but slower) athletes eat up. Is it stiffness? Stride length?

He actually moved more fluidly as the season progressed, as evidenced by his play against Baylor, A&M, and Cal, but you need only look at some of his kickoff return work to see that straight lines are his friend.

As he showed against the Baylor Bears, he can be deadly when hit on the run. But he's not been consistent getting clean releases going against the other team's best corners. So finding scenarios with "off" coverage is a good thing for Marquise.

Route running

I can think of a half dozen instances off of the top of my head in Goodwin's career where a corner steered him out of bounds deep, resulting in Goodwin making a spectacular catch...next to a sideline reporter. Part of it is Goodwin's inability to gain initial separation upstairs with a clean release so that his lower body can do its work, but that's compounded by a tendency to line up a little too wide and drift. The QB's throw to his outside shoulder combined with a corner trained to put him into the water coolers puts Goodwin outside of the boundary and rendered useless, or best case, catching a jump ball for 30 instead of a in-stride pass for 75 and a touchdown. He'd have another 350 yards receiving over his career if boundaries honored the rules of horseshoes and grenades.

His 5-9, 178 pound frame wouldn't be an issue if he was more border collie than greyhound, but it prevents him from muscling through where technique lacks.

**

Despite great speed, good hands, and a football mentality, the sum total of his statistical career at Texas (94 catches, 1024 yards, 4 TDs, 10.9 yards per catch) reads "possession WR" but his work running the ball (33 carries, 265 yards, 8 yards per carry) and his play in several big games at Texas demonstrates what he's capable of when he can get a step. There's no question that Harsin wants Marquise to break out in 2012, particularly given our potential running game and his desire to turn Ash into a low attempt/high result QB, but how best to do it?

Goodwin's best employment is as WR #3 rather than #1 or #2. Injury and unreliability from Davis miscast Goodwin as our primary down the stretch. If Shipley/Davis can do their jobs and draw coverage, Goodwin has the opportunity to be a significant big play asset. Goodwin will see either safety or nickel coverage, players usually lacking the skill set to nullify him. And if it's a LB, he'd better be Derrick Brooks.

Goodwin's ideal use is what we saw against Cal - a few touches for big results enabled by play calling. Not as a chain moving possession receiver.


The long touchdown catch shows what happens when Goodwin doesn't get checked properly off of his release (and Goodwin gives himself enough space to operate).

Defensive coordinators, more than anything, fear the single play long score and will game plan in inordinate overcompensation to prevent it. If Goodwin can put the fear of God in DCs over their secondary and tertiary match-ups, that means breathing room for others to operate, easier fronts for the running game, and more safeties watching the game unfold instead of affecting it.

Most of all, it doesn't require him to be a complete receiver.

Just a dangerous one.


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she's pretty

in a Russian track and field sort of way.

by Big(g) Ern on May 14, 2025 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean,

as in a pretty face on a boy’s body? Those aren’t child-bearing hips.

by BurntOrangeJuice on May 14, 2025 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could delete this post after reading the article Flipteach posted below.

I’m sure there’s a low likelihood that Darya Klishina will read this thread, but I feel bad anyway.

by BurntOrangeJuice on May 15, 2025 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

When did track and field ladies get so hot?

i know I haven’t been paying attention to the sport for a while but…

zdratsvitye, ona ocha kracibey!

A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...

by bevosteve67 on May 14, 2025 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do you think I have said for quite some time the best weekend in Texas

for high school sports was last weekend at Meyer.

It is truly amazing that five competitors are within inches of each other for those three spots to go to London.

Always felt he would have been better off focusing on track this spring, sitting out the fall, and then being able to focus solely on football next spring, but they didn’t ask me so I wish him the best come June and most in almost every game next year.

by davey o'brien on May 14, 2025 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This site needs...

…more Russian track and field ladies!

"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." (Jimmy Buffett)

by coolhorn on May 14, 2025 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

That flag is still BS

by UT_BKC on May 14, 2025 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sorry for posting a picture of a woman

I also wrote some words beneath that. Anyone want to take a crack at that?

by Scipio Tex on May 14, 2025 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought at the end of the year he finally looked like a football

player who ran track instead of the other way around.

Too many of the track guys don’t seem to know how to use the speed advantage they have on the field and try to run as fast as possible on every play. Goodwin finally seemed to understand the value of varying the pace and using his acceleration as an advantage and not the reason why he just ran into someone on the field.

by davey o'brien on May 14, 2025 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully you’ve learned a valuable lessson.

I would like to agree with you, but I think that Ash’s development as a competent QB will be the only thing that gets DCs out of the box and gives Harsin’s O a chance to operate in space a bit.

by Yossarian Rising on May 14, 2025 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ash is a big piece of it

But he’ll sink or swim with the OL and WR play as much as they’ll benefit from him. They need to provide him with opportunities and he needs to convert on them. Chicken-egg.

by Scipio Tex on May 14, 2025 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aside from the obvious (ie QB play) I see elite level WR play outside of Shipley and improved pass protection

as being the two components which stand between where we are now and BCS contention. Of course, a David Thomas type of tight end would be nice, but I’ve given up hope on that.

With the safeties getting sucked in by the 3 headed RB monster, I can see Marquise giving us a long play action TD at a clip of about 1 every other game once Ash has thrown enough long passes to him to get used to his speed and can get some air under the ball to let Marquise run under it like he did on that TD pass in the Holiday bowl. So, we’ll get handful at the end of the year, as usual, as they acclimate to each other. Of course, that will fluctuate with the ability of the corners he faces to jam him off the line.

by BurntOrangeJuice on May 14, 2025 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

How often

do you suspect we’ll play 3 or more receivers next year besides in 3rd and long? Seemed like Harsin went there against Baylor to exploit matchups but not often in other games if he could help it.

by Nickel Rover on May 14, 2025 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we'll see it a decent amount

1. Every 3rd down and 3+
2. Where match-ups favor it
3. Frequently on 1st and 2nd down if we don’t get good FB play without Berryhill/Johnson

The role of a #3 is also to spell your 1 and 2 a bit, too.

I’d rather have another WR on the field for the running game over a subpar FB any day of the week. Marquise also has some direct value in the running game on his end arounds.

I’d also be surprised if we didn’t play around with some 0 TE formations.

by Scipio Tex on May 14, 2025 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had heard

to expect more Aces formations, double TE. Maybe motion one into a halfback. I guess if our 3rd receiver is much better than our 2nd TE than our usage will reflect that.

by Nickel Rover on May 14, 2025 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's ok, but she's no Allison Stokke

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by Triston27 on May 14, 2025 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You kicked my internet stalking into high gear and...

based on some pictures I found, she was at the Texas Relays one recent year! HOW DID I MISS THIS?!

by TXinDC on May 14, 2025 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

"Casa de mi Padre" which is Spanish for the vagina of the sun

by Ese-De-SA on May 14, 2025 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I LOL'd!

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 15, 2025 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Her popliteus...

Make my flexor digitorum longus rigid

"Casa de mi Padre" which is Spanish for the vagina of the sun

by Ese-De-SA on May 15, 2025 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Football!

Thanks for writing about it.

Does Marquise work out at all with the football guys during the summer? It seems to me that if he is in town, he could spend some time playing 7 on 7. Or are the two sports so incompatible that just running routes and catching a football could screw up his track form?

Also, does Longhorn Scott still work around here?

by RomaVicta on May 14, 2025 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for replying about it

I think he’s focused on track. He doesn’t need turned ankles or missed track work with the Olympics on the line. Maybe he catches a couple of balls here and there, but he’s not getting the consistent work he needs. He’ll have three weeks in August to get up to speed.

Longhorn Scott is paying off some sort of blood debt penning a couple of articles at Inside Texas. He’ll be back.

by Scipio Tex on May 14, 2025 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worse than Skull and Bones

Secret emails. People being abducted and forced into slave labor.

Reverse the last two letters in Illuminati and you get…hey, there’s somebody at the door. I’ll be right ba

by RomaVicta on May 14, 2025 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

you get...

Illuminait? it? I don’t get it.

by vortic on May 15, 2025 5:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I. T.

As in Inside Texas.

Since I’m already being that guy, I’ll also add that I thought Rosanne’s show was pretty good. I’m not going to go and get the swimsuit calendar or anything, but it was nice to see a TV show that wasn’t based on the self-inflicted non-problems of rich white folks from New York.

Continuing the rant… In regards to Ms. Stokke, while it is a great thing that we are celebrating a standard of beauty that is based on women being strong and capable, that photo was taken when she was in high school. Google stalking a high school girl is just creepy.

[/high horse]

As for Marquise, I’m hoping for good things. I’d like to think that the strong finish to the season was, in part, due to him starting to figure out the new offensive system. If memory serves, he missed most of the summer/early fall work outs due to track training. Perhaps he came on at the end because he was more familiar with what he was being asked to do, and/or Harsin was figuring out how to use him.

by Flipteach on May 15, 2025 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Goodwin joined the team

Right before the BYU game.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

pic..

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by Triston27 on May 15, 2025 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at Tim Lincecum far right

He wants to smoke a doob.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be one of the many Hanson sisters. I mean brothers.

I mean, who DIDN’T wear out their MMMbop album?

by WreckerTex on May 15, 2025 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You Win Triston

I laughed. They do stay the same age don’t they?

by Flipteach on May 15, 2025 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fact that you knew it was a HS pic is kinda creepy as well. :-)

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 15, 2025 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Fair Point

Oh, I totally Googled. I just felt bad immediately:

Here’s why.

Also, the fact that they have to explain what this “Facebook” thing is acts as an interesting reminder of how fast the world moves.

by Flipteach on May 15, 2025 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

WR depth chart

If we are hoping Marquise is a serviceable #3 that can keep defenses honest, I am curious what others on here see or hope from the rest of the depth chart? Obviously we know what to at least hope for from Davis and Shipley — but what about the return of John Harris (merely a blocking aficionado or potential #3 option) and the annually mercurial DeSean Hales?

Also curious what people think about the incoming class? Does anyone see a WR that immediately cracks the 2 deep and is a factor this season?

by Big(g) Ern on May 15, 2025 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

not sure

DeSean Hales would be a prime contender for a senior break out from out of nowhere award. He certainly has a knack for showing up in scrimmages and less so in daily practices.

Harris is a good possession WR and a physical blocker, at minimum. I like him, but he’s a complementary piece.

Cayleb Jones should have a shot at giving us some reps.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Jaxson Shipley back full speed

I don’t expect Goodwin to draw the top corner very often.

Teams shouldn’t be able to biltz our QB into a quivering pile like OU did last year. That should open up the deep ball.

I don’t worry about him “being in football shape” we’re talking about a world class athlete with three weeks to get ready for the season. Even then he has a few games before our third receiver match ups will make much of a difference.

You are right about Goodwin being led out of bounds by good corners. At least half of that is ball placement though. I think Ask will be better this year at recognizing when he has man coverage and be more confident in letting Goodwin out jump the corner. Hell the guy has good hands and springs in his legs. He’s not that tall, but most corners aren’t either.

Like Jerry Grey said to some QB “You just through three balls at last years Texas High School high jump champion.” That, but the opposite.

by texitect on May 15, 2025 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Not worried about football shape

The issue is more about football skill.

Great point about Goodwin getting 3-4 games before we may really need him to show up big.

Ball placement is definitely part of it, but when you drift from the snap of the ball and you’re already lined up wide, you’re creating an unduly tight window. The beauty of a go route that turns into a sideline fade is that if you’ve given yourself enough room, it’s a pretty low risk throw and you can use that extra cushion so the QB doesn’t have to make a perfect throw.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do We...

motion him a lot to try and get a free release or let him line up in the backfield every now and again for a wheel route.

by Bobby_Batronic on May 15, 2025 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

All of the above

Anything we can do to hit him while he’s already on the move and not getting checked at the LOS is a plus.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The way you summed it up pretty much sums it up. Appropriately enough.
If Goodwin can put the fear of God in DCs over their secondary and tertiary match-ups, that means breathing room for others to operate, easier fronts for the running game, and more safeties watching the game unfold instead of affecting it.

We just need the other receivers to take advantage of this created-space properly, and have the offensive line defend long enough to let this develop, and have Ash deliver the ball well. Piece of cake. But I’m actually confident, barring a rash of injuries, that we can actually have a serviceable passing game because I’m confident Ash will improve sufficiently. The poor bastard was thrown into the grinder last year and handled himself well (and with class) so I think he’ll be in a much happier place this year with starter reps and the chance to develop some rapport with the receivers. Oh, and those RBs.

But I’m concerned that the way we necessarily use Goodwin…

Goodwin’s ideal use is what we saw against Cal - a few touches for big results enabled by play calling. Not as a chain moving possession receiver.

….will weaken his effectiveness at scaring DCs. Similar to DJ and how his abilities minimize the offensive options, yet he’s still often effective because of his skills. I know Mack has at least voiced his desire to change this, FWIW, and Harsin is of course excellent at using all of the weapons at his disposal, so it’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out this year with a team more familiar with Harsin’s offense. Please stay healthy Jaxon Shipley. I beg you. He is the foundation for any consistent passing game success we might have, in my worthless opinion.

BTW, l loved that hit in the UCLA game. I must have replayed that a dozen times on game day.

by WreckerTex on May 15, 2025 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I hear you

but no DC is awake at night shivering at the thought of Marquise Goodwin catching 4 balls for 36 yards or honoring his career averages. What Marquise did against Cal effectively scored (or set up) two of our three touchdowns with a 47 yard TD catch against single coverage and a 37 yard end around. Put differently, he accounted for 1/3 of our total yardage output on 2 plays.

A DC catching that on film thinks,“Tell our OLB not to aggressively pursue backside to respect the misdirection and make sure we’ve got a safety back checking Goodwin when we’re in man and Texas loses.”

With two meaningful touches, Goodwin opens up future cutback lanes for our RBs and keeps a safety back. That’s what I’m talking about.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, distinction finally grasped.
With two meaningful touches, Goodwin opens up future cutback lanes for our RBs and keeps a safety back.

I’m sure everyone else got it the first time, but that put it all together for me. I blame it on the hot track girl photos. They were indeed a distraction. Those vile seductresses.

by WreckerTex on May 15, 2025 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Important not to put too much emphasis on the passing game benefitting the running game.

The running game also benefits the passing game, and the balance achieved by having passing and running games that both command respect is the holy grail. We’ve got the running game, but last year no one respected our passing game enough to stop loading the box. Adding another receiver who the defense has to worry about getting over the top just makes everything else in the offense more effective. A balanced offense is our ticket to the promised land.

I’m sure that’s nothing novel to you or anyone else reading this thread, I was sort of thinking out loud.

by BurntOrangeJuice on May 15, 2025 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of my favorites since he got on the 40

Tough SOB for a track guy.

I do think it’s in the team’s best interest to get him back this year, but I’ve always personally wondered if it would be in Marquise’s best interest to take a redshirt year. It looked like it would happen last year, but he still has two years left to play one. The Olympics are kind of a big deal, and I would think he would want to go HAM on that, which puts football on the backburner. But I also think he has an NFL career if he wants it (I mean, Trindon Holliday is on an NFL roster after all), so why not focus solely on football in 2013 post-Olympics to give that a shot?

by jc25 on May 15, 2025 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought he would 'shirt frankly

But he may see track in Europe as his ultimate money-making opportunity. A lot easier on the body too.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has at least two more

Olympics in him after this one, that’s eight years of euro track money.

I see him as maybe a three year NFL guy, with teams willing to take a chance based on athletic ability alone, if you have other options, the NFL is a tough life for the bubble guys.

I would think he projects mainly as a special teams guy, which is even worse on the body.

I don’t really see the point in red shirting him now.

by texitect on May 15, 2025 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't play in the NFL

if I were Marquise. He’s a marginal pro talent and it’s a quick way to short circuit your track career. When you add up sponsorships, prize money, participation fees, and corporate appearance fees, you can make some damn good money and business contacts doing the Euro circuit.

I’m certain Goodwin can’t be a NFL kick returner. For the reasons I cite above.

by Scipio Tex on May 15, 2025 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has to make the team first this year

as I pointed out he is one of five jumpers who are within a few inches of each other. I believe the four other are pro and three are part of pretty high powered track clubs.

This is why I thought he woudl sit out the spring and focus purely on the jumping. We are at a point where this thing could be literally decided by an inch or two and you would think if you don’t make it you want to know you have done everything you could to give it your best shot.

I agree with texitect that red-shirting now is a bygone point. Play it out and see what happens and I do agree that regardless whe will be able to jump for some time making darn good money with a great deal less toil on the body.

by davey o'brien on May 15, 2025 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's in the mix

Because Goodwin has improved about a foot over the last month, he is at least in the mix for a spot on the US team. I follow track and field, and particularly Goodwin. He seems to be building to the marks he achieved at the 2011 US Track and Field Championships that placed him in the Worlds a few months later.

First step is getting in the mix. I didn’t expect it given his earlier results this year. He’s there. Next comes making the team, which I think is going to happen. Third comes making the event finals, which did not happen at Worlds. Talk about a medal is just unrealistic right now. He would have to get close to 28’ for that to happen.

by utexex on May 16, 2025 2:17 AM CDT reply actions  

BJ.in his performance

since he missed the Big12 Indoor with leg injury.

I was concerned about the type of training he was doing at that time and don’t know if he has really changed things, but there has been a surge in his distance over the past two months.

It is tougher tracking the other jumpers and my one fear is the cliche of trying to peak at the right time. I thought last year he was surprised he one the trials for the World Games, didn’t really perform well in his first international meet of that scale, and actually did not finish with one of the three farthest jumps by an American last year.

The one thing I am looking to see is one of his competitors in the LJ is also a leader in the TJ. I have been too lazy to check schedules and results, but I could have sworn Son of Davey told me the guy is stronger in the TJ than the LJ though I could have imagined it.

by davey o'brien on May 16, 2025 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Getting up to speed

Is the problem, oddly enough. He fights his own body in the first ten yards in a somewhat spastic attempt to accelerate. After that it’s smooth sailing. But it explains his inability to get off the line and beat press coverage consistently.

Good post.

Even though I fail to see how this relates to English soccer.

by Vasherized on May 16, 2025 8:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  


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