Mack Brown 2012 Fall Camp Press Conference
Fall camp is officially here. Mack looked to be in good humor, optimistic, mildly pissy only with respect to the QB situation, and offered some amusing one-liners. It was a long press conference, but chock full of interesting tidbits.
Marquise's return:
...see if they can get him on the next flight home which will be probably back the 9th, 10th - somewhere like that. So we will get him back for practice hopefully the end of this week or next week for sure, and then he will have to go through the orientation period of a couple of days in shorts and shells
No problem. Given Goodwin's seniority, the length of camp, and our non-conference ramp-up, he should be an asset at WR #3 when it's nut-cutting time. The biggest concern is that though he's fit, he's not in football shape, hasn't been doing a lot of lateral work and stop-start, and his chances for injury are pretty high in his first weeks back.
Speaking of injuries:
From an injury standpoint. [DB] Adrian Phillips, [DE] Jackson Jeffcoat and [TE] Greg Daniels will be released so they will be full in practice. [CB] Quandre Diggs, [WR] Bryant Jackson, [TE] Caleb Bluiett and [DE] Reggie Wilson will be limited. But Quandre could practice. He could play if we played today, but we'll be careful with him early in practice. And then we'll work Bryant, [WR] Miles [Onyegbule] and Reggie Wilson back into practice slowly.
Great news on Phillips, Jeffcoat, Daniels. Had no idea that Wilson was limited or had an issue. They're going to be smart with Quandre and I'm glad.
There seemed to be a panic over [QB] David Ash last week. He's fine and will be released in practice
Panic is when I can't find car keys in the morning. That Friday was a Dutch tulip futures market. Ash should sleep with his hamstring on a pyramid of Charmin and a graduate assistant should be assigned to rub it with a fine chamois.
[OL] Camrhon Hughes for his knee, had a knee operation. He will be redshirted and out for the year.
This is a bummer for Hughes and the scout team reps and meetings would have been helpful, but this redshirt is a net benefit for his development.
BTW, our uniforms need tiaras, capes, and luge helmets emblazoned with flames:
But our players are constantly asking, "Are we ever going to change our uniform or are we ever going to do anything different?" And what we tell them is, we are not. We'll have burnt orange and white. May move a number around. A couple of years ago we had the number above the Longhorn. But we are who we are, and that uniform has been like it is for many, many years. And as long as I'm the coach, we will not have any drastic changes, and it will be burnt orange and it will be white.
Yay! Now that this is settled, let's all name the defense. I like The Burnt Orange Crunk Mafia Killaz!
What we have done for the players is we have allowed them to design practice uniforms, and we will rotate those on a daily basis. But they will get to wear some orange and black and some different colors and that's what they get to play [in]. That's what they want to do and they are excited about it, and we think it will help recruiting...
I love the image of Kenny Vaccaro as Vera Wang fussing over Steve Edmond's draping. "This SIMPLY WON'T DO! I said crushed velour!"
In practice, our players can wear Mexican sun dresses and goldfish heeled pimp shoes if it makes them happy. Just don't mess with the franchise.
We are so far ahead of where we were at the Holiday Bowl when we finished because we know more about each other. Bennie Wylie had two summers with Jeff Madden to get the guys ready, and we are much stronger.
"Jeff, I'm going to work the guys for the morning session."
"Hmmmm?"
"Morning workout session."
"Have 'em do bench and then run in the sand or some shit."
"Well, maybe we'll do more than that."
"Suit yourself." (opens Krispy Kreme container)
I can just tell by the guys reporting and listening to what I heard this summer that the guys had a great summer and were in great shape. We added a nutritionist, and she's done a tremendous job and we've dropped in body fat and the guys were more ready to go than ever before.
We'll see on the nutritionist. If she's imparting lessons like: fried food bad, soft drinks naughty, Skittles are not a performance enhancer (sorry, Marshawn Lynch), then we're on our way.
We have a couple of systems that are in place, one called due diligence, that monitors what they say. It doesn't follow their Facebook. It doesn't infringe on their privacy. But if something pops up that's negative about our team, talks about race, talks about guns, talks about drugs, talks about sex, a number of different subjects that they should not be discussing on their Facebook or on their Twitter, then it pops out to our compliance department immediately and they talk to their young men and they handle it.
"So, in closing, when you mentioned that - and I quote - you're going to shoot some of these low-performing crackers on the team and steal their drugs and have sex with their girlfriends - close quote - some flags went up. We think you might have phrased it differently."
Changes in recruiting with 2014 early offers:
We are constantly reevaluating everything we do after 14 years on a daily basis. [Twenty-fourteen] seems to be a great class. A number of those young men wanted to go ahead and commit and all of the guys were worried that we had not offered them.
That's it. They're getting offers from the reigning national champions, national powers, and every other school in Texas. Texas is so far behind the psychological curve by withholding an offer that catching up on the top guys becomes a herculean effort. Establish parity, take away the early leverage, and then we're back in the driver's seat. The problem is that we're now playing a dangerous game of "Guess the future of a 16 year old."
And then you get into the approval, the offer, how long do you wait and it's six months' difference, and we felt like we had a great hold on the evaluation process and we had about a two week discussion. Very honestly that was a pretty big change for us, and we felt like it was best for the time and moved forward and did it and feel good about where we are and moving forward with it.
This sort of thing under previous regimes - at least on offense - would have been disastrous. Can you even imagine?
There are still requirements that have to be in place for young guys like that going into their junior year. If their academics drastically change to a negative, you wouldn't take them. If they got in trouble, you wouldn't take them. And obviously if they are not competing for their [high school] if they call and say the guy is not trying anymore and you shouldn't take him...
The problem here is that while Alabama, LSU, FSU, A&M and others carpet bomb offers, it costs them nothing, because any kid who actually tries to commit who doesn't develop will be told his offer isn't committable, and any kid who is committed but doesn't develop will be excised when a better option comes along.
On rare occasions, Texas has ditched committed prospects, but almost always because we thought they didn't fit our culture or were behaving idiotically. Not for lack of actual development. And we have the 13-12 record to prove it over the last two seasons to prove it.
The million dollar question is: can we effectively super-early recruit without a trapdoor policy - however subtly exercised - based on pure development? Not citizenship or academics. Development. Dunno. That's the Brave New World.
Longhorn Network will carry the first two games live of the season. They will also carry some practices or parts of some practices as we get started even in preseason.
Peter thinks this final attempt at exerting leverage means a major provider cracks. While I agree in principle, it's absolutely clear to me that all of the major carriage providers have an implicit agreement with each other, a line in the sand, an invisible "Thou shall not pass" against all sorts of other content that providers will try to jam down their throats after they cave to LHN - and it will take someone to break. But that's the problem with cartels. Someone always break or cheats. See OPEC.
Summer for us is about a number of things, but it's really about teaching and developing leadership because we found that it's not there in a lot of cases. A young guy may want to be a leader but doesn't understand what that means.
Ash, David. He's not talking about our defense. The rub is that many teams rely on a senior-laden OL for stability and leadership when there's a young signal caller (see Texas 1998, 2006) but we don't have that either.
Off-season development:
So it will be fun to see how the guys really produced over the summer and how much they improved. And I just saw [QB] Case McCoy downstairs. So you all will talk to him in a minute. He weighed 185 at the end of the Cal game, and he weighs 200 pounds right now. He also gained four pounds of muscle, muscle mass and really cut his body fat. So guys can make tremendous improvement over the summer and it sounds like he did that.
Case gained 15 pounds. 4 of it was muscle. 11 of it was Jaxon Shipley's foot on the back of the scale.
Funniest line of the presser:
Running back rotation. You've got some good talent there. What are you going to do with them to make sure you utilize them and what do you do with Daje [Johnson] and D.J. [Monroe], and how do you separate the "Daje" and "D.J." when you are yelling at them?
Mack shoot! Mack score!
And I also feel like with all of the money that everybody is making in college football that every athlete ought to add a stipend to their scholarship and make more money. There's more pressure, there's more involved for them, so I think that it's time to do that.
What does Donna Lopiano think of that? Of course you think there should be a stipend. You're not paying for it. You don't have to balance the realities of Title IX and you still collect 5 million large per.
On the QB controversy:
I do think that some people panic over it and say it should have been done in June, should have been done in spring. I love the fact that if you're not really sure and it's not clearcut that the guys have had to compete and lead the team all summer. The players will have a much better feel now than leaving spring practice who has had the best summer and who has been the best leader and who organized the seven on sevens and who do they believe in right now.
I agree with Mack in theory that a close QB competition makes fans unduly hysterical. I vastly prefer them to Gilbert-style coronations. However, I think the concern among many fans is that it actually is a tight competition when the upside seems to rest in one camp. Let's at least give that option a chance to flame out before option #2.
Also, would love to be a fly on the wall with respect to player feedback on the QBs in 7 on 7. Case is the more active campaigner and assertive personality, but do players value upside over assertiveness?
Mack gets a tad pissy at the end of the QB chat:
We had people graduate as quarterback - that's the course that most of our fans and media took, because we don't have a controversy. God, you'd like one. And I don't want to disappoint you all.
We don't want a controversy. Mostly because it means suffering through reading what the average Longhorn fan believes constitutes acceptable QB play.
OL depth:
I don't think we are where we want to be but we are sure headed there and our concern now is that we are pretty set with first group and now we need to get seven, eight, nine, ten guys going and you have to evaluate your two freshmen, Curtis Riser andKennedy Estelle and see where they fit in the mix as they get started.
My suggestion for Riser and Estelle - unless they're absolutely needed on the 2nd team of the depth chart and will get snaps in every game - rhymes with WED-SHIRT. We need to bite the bullet on this some day soon.
On offensive identity:
We have got to figure out the passing game. I mean, we've got to throw it better, and we know that, and how much of that is play action, how much of that is drop back? How much is fourwides? Who are we in the passing game?
We're a play action passing team. We go four wide on 3rd and 9 or if the other team's third corner runs a 4.8 40 and is named Chazz Parkington.
Kendall Sanders at DB?
I don't think so. We have such a need. We have a bigger need at receiver right now than we have at defensive back
Curses. Foiled again. And there's a rousing endorsement of our WR recruiting pre-2010. BTW, we'll probably field the 6th best WR unit in the Big 12 this year. Wrap your mind around that. At freaking TEXAS. Must. Not. Dwell. On. Past. Sins. And we don't have to - 2012 should be pretty fun.
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THIS is my biggest worry this year
we’ll probably field the 6th best WR unit in the Big 12 this year. Wrap your mind around that. At freaking TEXAS.
Good WR’s can make mediocre QB’s look like NFL material. Shipley is our best WR? You have to be kidding me.
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 5, 2025 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
"Shipley is our best WR? You have to be kidding me."
Who is better?
by ole tnhorn on Aug 6, 2025 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
NO ONE is better - that is the problem!
Shipley is our QB’s only “go to” guy. Who else can be relied on? No ONE!
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 6, 2025 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
One more thing.
Do you think OU is concerned about our receivers? They’ll stack the box again if someone other than Shipley cannot step up.
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 6, 2025 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Good. Should help our "weak" recieving corps.
We might not have THE BEST group pf receivers, but something tells me Goodwin has got something to prove…as does Davis. We get those two clicking…and a little help from the rest of the group. and we could be not just decent…but formidable.
Our game plan is retardedly simple, and does not rely on having the 1st or 2nd…or even 3rd best group of receivers. Ours is a numbers game. You load the box, and we might throw it. You don’t? We’ll run right over you.
Personally, I’m more worried about the line than the receivers. Though, what I’ve heard from Scip assuages my concern some.
by e1 kabong on Aug 6, 2025 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Davis is the key piece.
If he can go back and contribute at the level he did as a freshman that will be huge. Texas just needs to know he will need to be where he is supposed to be and make the catch.
As many have pointed out the big plays will come from the defense focusing on the ground game and Harsin scheming the occasional mismatch.
None of that matters though if on 3rd and 6 Shipley is the only guy Texas can depend on getting 7 yards down the field on the route AND making the catch.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Shipley is awesome. What is wrong with him being the best on the team?
by atxdman on Aug 6, 2025 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
It would seem the problem is not if Shipley is the best receiver on the team, but
if he is the only legit college receiver on the team.
Not saying that is the case, but I am trying to fool snide’s line of thought.
If Davis can return to freshman form, Goodwin assimilate back a little quicker than last year, and you get a dependable effort from one of the other receivers I think Texas is good as Scipio points out the passing game won’t be asked to carry the days with the potential the Horns have running the ball.
Passing game to me is really a chicken and egg thing with should the concern be the receivers or the development of Ash. Harsin asked Ash to make some plays throwing the ball off the running game in the bowl and I think that is the formula we see early in the year until a cleared identity is formed by the team.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
at a minimum...
at least we have more potential solutions to throw at the problem this year. goodwin should be better than last year simply by virtue of having more time to get up to speed, john harris can help, dj grant and mcfarland should both at least offer more out of the TE position than we got last year, and you have all of the freshman that could offer something — and I have read that Jonathan Gray’s hands and route running out of the backfield really impressed.
by Big(g) Ern on Aug 6, 2025 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Curious
as to whether Gray becomes our third down back. Jeremy Hills seems to be currently slated there - or at least that’s what Spring game snaps suggested.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 6, 2025 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
it's not really
a spot conducive to bringing in a young back who’s never had to worry about protections before. You know he would kill with the jailbreak screen and draw though.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Gray as 3rd down back
Yeah, he would be amazing on screens, swings, shovels.
Pass pro is more about physicality, skill, and willingness than scheme familiarity. If you understand the concept of Inside-Out, you’ve got all you need. I have zero insight into Gray’s blocking abilities though. He didn’t do it much in high school, I’ll guess.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 6, 2025 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Which means Horn fans shouldn't expect to see Gray play much
until after the OU game?
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
No offense to Jeremy
but we have too many RBs in need of touches for Hills to be playing in non-garbage time. IMO.
by nordberg on Aug 6, 2025 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Precisely, davey!
The drop off from Shipley is huge. We cannot win unless someone else steps up and creates a threat. Otherwise, Shipley will just be double teamed all year.
Furthermore, it throws too much pressure on our QB’s again - exactly what Mack doesn’t want!
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 6, 2025 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
WR Unit Ranking
I can see that ranking for our WR receiver group as practice opens, but isn’t quite possible the group will be ranked higher than 6th in the last half of the season?
If Goodwin can catch up to where he was at the end of the season pretty quickly, Shipley is healthy, Harris or Miles become solid and on one of the freshmen steps up, it seems like we could end up pretty good at receiver.
by RomaVicta on Aug 5, 2025 11:35 PM CDT reply actions
Our running game can make them more productive than their talent level.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 5, 2025 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
If their lack of production doesn't kill the running game that is
TEXAS FIGHT
by Darklust on Aug 6, 2025 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Great stuff as always
Thoughts: Injuries sound manageable. Nothing on the police blotter.
Question: Any chance we can get Sean Parker to create a shadow Longhorn network? Atlanta GA cable carriers aren’t filling me with optimism.
Proclamation: As for naming the defense, I’ve always liked the name Chester.
by Cirque Du Salado on Aug 5, 2025 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.....
A friend sent this Scipio parody in response to the cradle-robbing 2014 offers. “Pooh Corner” is a country club set pre-school in Houston.
“Those Pooh Corner kids have great fundamentals. Like walking. They can mostly all walk. And hit? Wow. Usually with a Tickle-Me Elmo, but still. No picnic. Lots of encouraging early signs. Kid slobbers like a camel? Offensive lineman. Pretty obvious. Need lots of slobber. Big load in the trunk? We say, “If they reek, they can streak”. Running back or wide receiver. No lie. And Pooh Corner runs a clean program. Diaper samples all negative. Expected that. Still, behind in the offers. One mom said Saban offered after her son’s sonogram. Clear violation of the NCAA In-Utero Rule. Has to stop."
by hh500 on Aug 6, 2025 6:49 AM CDT reply actions
Is there any question we should be offering
futures on the offspring of Aaron and Sanja Richards Ross? I don’t think there is.
by boorad on Aug 6, 2025 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
So who do you have woo and marry Destinee?
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking possibly Carlton Cooper.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
for bball
Durant would be a great choice. I’m pretty sure that Destinee Hooker could dominate the WNBA if she wanted to switch sports.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
slowly inching towards
having the kind of “blocking surface” tight ends that can make this offense really go. I’m optimistic about Bluiett’s future.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 8:41 AM CDT reply actions
Not sure how you got that WR ranking
The Shipley and Davis combo has the potential to be very effective. Talented depth is there, just lacking in experience.
I would be curious to see the five groups you put ahead of the Horns and why.
by rufuswasmypawpaw on Aug 6, 2025 8:53 AM CDT reply actions
Who do you rank us ahead of?
WVU has us beat by a long shot. Tech has several really strong veterans in their corp. OU has at least one superstar, Baylor is ahead as well.
We’re in the middle with KSU, OSU, and TCU and most of those squads have more upperclassmen.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
TCU actually only has two upperclassmen in
Boyce a junior and Dawson a senior (who has yet to live up to expectations) , 5-6 sophomores, a couple of red-shirt freshmen, a soph transfer, and a two true freshman.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
they were the one
I thought may be as young as we are. I heard Patterson mention the current TCU demographics, almost entirely underclassmen, in explaining why he has so many “knuckleheads” on this team.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That and four upperclassmen being total dumbasses
tends to be a bit of a problem.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
WVU, Baylor
No way on TCU or Tech. OU is as big a question mark as Texas.
by rufuswasmypawpaw on Aug 6, 2025 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't underestimate TCU's talent at receiver
and please don’t trot out the cliche about the quality of the MWC’s defense. It isn’t like the Big12 was loaded with secondary talent last season aside from Austin and Norman before the injuries.
If we are talking about selecting who has the better set of running backs I would take Texas for no other reason than upside potential, but at receiver I will keep the Frogs talent over the Horns.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
OU just added Justin Brown from Penn State.
And returned their suspendees. Much more experienced than we are. TCU has proven players and a huge X Factor in LaDarius Brown. Tech has the most proven WR corps 1-4, if they can keep them off of suspension.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 6, 2025 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Raise your hand
if you could have told me who Justin Brown was prior to the free agent free for all at Pedo State? Let’s not pretend this guy is some all-world, Julio Jones/Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald hybrid that should instill fear in the hearts of rivals.
As for returning guys they’ve got Kenny Stills, who faded badly after the loss of Broyles last year, Jaz Reynolds and Trey Franks, the number 3 and 4 guys from last year. I’d take Shipley above all three. Stills and Reynolds are about on Davis’s level. I’ll take Goodwin over Franks.
The wild card for OU is Metoyer. If the person who reads the playbook to him is worth a damn he could put them over the top.
As for Tech, their WRs have been proven all right — proven to be mediocre. They don’t have a guy that would displace Shipley or Davis. Their top four would be in the rotation at Texas but would hardly outclass the current guys.
I’m from Missouri on TCU.
by rufuswasmypawpaw on Aug 7, 2025 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Mike D's effective level over the 2nd half of the season
was worst starting WR in the Big 12. There’s a reason Goodwin had to become WR #1 after Shipley got dinged. I’m optimistic on Mike, but his improvement isn’t a done deal.
You don’t understand Tech’s personnel. Remember the name Darrin Moore. And Eric Ward is outstanding in their scheme.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 7, 2025 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam James
played a LOT at WR for Tech. That should tell you something about the state of their WR group.
by rufuswasmypawpaw on Aug 7, 2025 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam James caught balls
….after their three best WRs went out with injuries.
by Scipio Tex on Aug 7, 2025 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just saying
if Shipley, Davis and Goodwin were out with injuries, Adam James wouldn’t be the next guy off the bench for Texas.
by rufuswasmypawpaw on Aug 7, 2025 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't try to read the playbook to Trey.
You just tell him to get open and I will get the ball to you. No reason to complicate things.
by davey o'brien on Aug 7, 2025 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If Davis lives up to his potential, Shipley can stay healthy, and Goodwin improves from where he ended last year, I can see an argument that 6th is too low.
Lot of ifs in there…
by Big(g) Ern on Aug 6, 2025 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
6th might be low
But barring a spectacular entrance by a freshman, 4th looks like the ceiling.
by CMDR on Aug 6, 2025 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
4th is all we really need.
You guys are comparing spread offenses to ours. Let’s try an example:
Who, besides Julio Jones, did Bama throw to in the NC game (off the top of your head)? Exactly…with a mediocre QB to boot.
by e1 kabong on Aug 6, 2025 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
OU Adds Receiver
Just heard on the radio that OU picked up a Penn State junior receiver, Justin Brown.
The 6-3, 209-pounder was the only Penn State player to record a catch in each game last year. He ended with 35 catches for 517 yards and a pair of touchdowns.
Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20120806_29_B2_NORMAN523832
by RomaVicta on Aug 6, 2025 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
If Justin Brown is the answer, was the question “What did the shoe salesman say when asked if he had docksiders in another color?”
by Cirque Du Salado on Aug 6, 2025 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As for the LHN I believe that ESPN must come off its subscriber fee to make a deal.
If they stand firm on their 40 cents per subscriber per month, the impasse might go on for a while. They can try to sweeten the deal with various incentives and extra inventory for the carrier but the bottom line is that someone like Time Warner sees little or no financial interest to take the plunge.
The LHN is obviously a niche network, and while UT fans can clamor all they want, the vast majority of subscribers do not want to see their monthly bill go up because a sports network they will never watch is being added.
As for UT fans bitching to TWC and others about not carrying the LHN, they realize that as soon as they do pick it up another minority of subscribers (Aggies, Sooners, Bears, Red Raiders, etc) will pick up the bitching over having to subsidized the hated LHN with THEIR cable bill.
Right now for TWC their is very little reward in any risk-reward scenario involving clearing the LHN.
by srr50 on Aug 6, 2025 9:13 AM CDT reply actions
I pay for a lot of cable I don't like
I don’t watch Lifetime, but my wife loves those movies (so do Sooners). Even she won’t watch the Style Network. TruTV? But that’s the deal with cable. You want your favorite channels, you pay for someone else’s favorite channels.
by UPB13 on Aug 6, 2025 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I thought the sooners were all watching Breaking Bad for the cooking tips.
by billb on Aug 6, 2025 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
More like "not exploding tips".
Doubtful they have ever produced (except explosions of course)
by e1 kabong on Aug 6, 2025 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You obviously have better insight than most into this situation, and I admittedly have zero idea of what is going on.
I’m curious, I have heard a few people whose opinion I respect say that this is going nowhere because several of the larger carriers have stated that they have absolutely no intention of picking up the LHN no matter how low ESPN goes on the carriage fees because they believe it sets a precedent that will allow ESPN to demand similar fees for additional networks in the future (I have no idea if this means similar one-school networks or just more ancillary networks under the ESPN name). They have said that even if Dish or a satellite provider picks it up that AT&T and TWC believe that they will not lose sufficient customers to where it would make financial sense for them to sign on. Any thoughts on this? I am hoping its BS, but there arguments seemed reasonable to me.
by Big(g) Ern on Aug 6, 2025 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Basically I do believe that ESPN is trying to establish a price point
for future “super-niche” channels.
ESPN understands that more and more customers are “cutting the cord” and moving their viewing to others platforms - their computer, IPad, IPhone, etc — which is obviously a long-term threat to their dual revenue stream business model.
The ESPN mantra has always been that “Everything is Available - For A Price.” They understand that the market for the LHN is really miniscule compared to the overall market. Long term it is the portability of the LHN that is their goal, short term it is to keep customers tied to their TV carrier.
You want to watch UT play TCU in baseball on your computer? Want to catch the Texas-UTSA basketball game on your IPad? Great, just have an account with a cable or satellite carrier.
They want to establish the price for the service with Texas because any future such effort for an individual school or conference will use the LHN as a base point.
ESPN is currently like the Hunt brothers back in the day when they tried to corner the silver market. ESPN is well on its way to owning college football in terms of media rights, and they want to make sure that it is profitable on any platform that they stream it on.
by srr50 on Aug 6, 2025 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
So basically Time Warner is going to cave any day now? Good, exactly what I wanted to hear.
by Big(g) Ern on Aug 6, 2025 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm more interested in DirectTV
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 6, 2025 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
City Councils will play a big part in this moving forward
With IP streaming ubiquitously available, there is no no technological reason that I can’t have a last mile relationship with one provider and content relationships with n number of other providers. Absent some federal intrusion, though, City Councils are the ones needed to make that happen.
by tx2step on Aug 6, 2025 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not hopeful
I am very close to switching to Grande.
by Monahorns on Aug 6, 2025 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Omar says
The problem is that we’re now playing a dangerous game of “Guess the future of a 16 year old.”

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by jc25 on Aug 6, 2025 9:15 AM CDT reply actions
Lol...never saw the wire...
So all I see is 7 layers of clothing (and a necklace I’ve only seen at Barton Springs) on top of the newest teacher on community.
Take that, HBO. What you get for deleting all the bootlegged copies off the interwebs.
by e1 kabong on Aug 6, 2025 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Correction…“a graduate assistant should be assigned to rub it with a fine SHAM-WOW”.
by Yossarian Rising on Aug 6, 2025 9:21 AM CDT reply actions
So what part of Mack's Case asssessment was incorrect?
A person is either muscle or fat, right? Let’s assume he didn’t gain a bunch of bone weight or something. How can he gain 15 total pounds, 4 of which is muscle and lower total fat percentage? Or am I just reading that wrong?
by Tackchevy on Aug 6, 2025 9:25 AM CDT reply actions
yeah
it doesn’t make any sense. Pretty hilarious.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
I think he may have grown a third arm—one specifically for throwing.
by UPB13 on Aug 6, 2025 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
The rest is moxy.
4 pounds of muscle and 11 pounds of cold hard moxy. Or kool aid. They’re nearly indistinguishable.
by tronaldinho on Aug 6, 2025 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
awesome.
Moxy Shake = three raw eggs, pinch of Skoal, bacon and a two shots of bourbon.
Starts every day with one.
by Sailor Ripley on Aug 6, 2025 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like an excellent hangover cure.
@jimmygards
by ColoradoAg on Aug 6, 2025 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I doubt he's been drinking that kind of Moxie.
I guess there's only one thing to do about the ACC...win the whole ****ing thing.
by seminole on Aug 7, 2025 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
11 pounds has to be water.
Makes sense. He probably weighed in when Aunt Flo was visiting. Need to take some Midol or something.
by Fried Rice on Aug 6, 2025 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you're onto something
Other possible sources of the phantom 11 pounds:
1. Grit
2. Stick-to-it-tiveness
3. The heavy burden of his father’s expectations
4. Hair sprouting up in new and unexpected places as he embarks on the transformation from boy to man
5. Dozens of acorns, stashed discretely in his cheek-pouches
6. A generous application of conditioner he neglected to thoroughly rinse out of his hair
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
by BrickHorn on Aug 6, 2025 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Could also be:
1. Swagger (how much does it weigh?)
2. He’s wearing more bling.
My personal favorite:
3. The crushed hopes and dreams of all Aggies fans (approximately 11 pounds seems about right).
by tdwalsh on Aug 6, 2025 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Case
I’m assuming that Mack is maintaining the illusion that Case could be a long-term answer for us because he still isn’t seeing everything from Ash that he wants and is attempting to maintain the advantages of competition and pressure.
by Nickel Rover on Aug 6, 2025 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
11 pounds of bone
must be part of the “sophomore 15”.
by lonesome devil on Aug 6, 2025 10:41 AM CDT reply actions
Or a brief snippet of one of my pick-up lines.
by nordberg on Aug 6, 2025 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you separate the "Daje" and "D.J." when you are yelling at them?
That’s an easy one. Come up with nicknames based on their hometowns. Just ask DKR. C’mon, Mack.
by Longhorn in Canada on Aug 6, 2025 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
Case +14
Yeah, this sounds like something the training staff told Mack and he butchered.
probably more like he gained 14 pounds but is at 4% body fat.
Gray:
If we’re limiting Gray because he can’t pick up the blitz, than maybe I completely misunderstood our offensive philosophy. When you’re a running team, you get the best back on the field. Granted, I don’t know if he is the best back at this point, but pass pro should be way down on the list of reasons why we don’t get Gray in the game.
All we need to do is limit our 5 and 7 step drops while he’s on the field.
by texitect on Aug 6, 2025 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
A 3rd down back is, by definition, not on the field
during a likely running play. Right?
by Scipio Tex on Aug 6, 2025 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
i was reacting more
To our past limitation of freshman running backs due to “struggles with pass pro” than the idea of Gray as a 3rd down back.
by texitect on Aug 6, 2025 3:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I submit he was UT's best back LAST year!
Granted, I don’t know if he is the best back at this point,
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 6, 2025 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
If we could stick a true frosh at QB
against OU. And a true freshman at left tackle . . . we can dang sure find a way to get J-Gray on the field. Early. And often. In difference places.
by edsp on Aug 6, 2025 1:51 PM CDT reply actions
Early. And often. In difference places.
That sounds like my high school girlfriend….
by Philly Frog on Aug 6, 2025 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember her
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games."
Darrell Royal
by Snide Aside on Aug 6, 2025 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess there's only one thing to do about the ACC...win the whole ****ing thing.
by seminole on Aug 7, 2025 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure because
that worked out so well for us last year. Ouch, thanks for the memory. This staff will get JGray on the field and he’ll be ready. I want to watch Corey Nelson try to cover him on a wheel route.
by ole tnhorn on Aug 6, 2025 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The bigger question isn't when and how you get him on the field
it is does Texas have the quarterback who can consistently throw that pass.
Ash improved, but will he mature fast enough or will all this skill talent end up like the old Soviet Union’s cache of warheads.
by davey o'brien on Aug 6, 2025 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
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