Big 12 Media Days: Mack Brown Talks Longhorns
It's telling that of our three attendees - Mason Walters, Carrington Byndom, Jordan Hicks - none of them is a senior, and none of them is a QB. The former speaks to a senior class that, outside of Okafor and Vaccaro, can be charitably described as forgettable; the latter speaks to Brown's strategeries around managing the QB depth chart. This is a young team, but if Texas is legitimately going to make progress to the next level (say, 10-3), that excuse can't fly for much longer.
Let's decipher some MackSpeak.
Well, I'm sitting in a red chair; I don't do that very often in the Big 12.
It's a hot seat. Win and we'll paint it white.
On the QB situation:
What we have done now, we have two older guys that have been through a year with Bryan Harsin and Major Applewhite offense. They both won significant games, one against -- Case against A&M in College Station at the end of the year, David Ash in the Bowl game against Cal. They left spring practice even.
They didn't, actually. Ash is the guy, barring injury or Gilbertian meltdown. But it's a valuable fiction to maintain if it prevented McCoy from transferring, allows us to redshirt Brewer, and puts Swoopes on an appropriate developmental time schedule. The secondary benefit - not necessarily to me, but in MackMind - is that it prevents Ash from feeling the weight of being the guy and having to relive last season through media questioning. Ash will feel the weight of being the guy when he runs out in front of 100,000, though.
On the QBs separating:
You bring in key players and ask what they think. But usually somebody will tweak an ankle or somebody will have a sore shoulder, and it may not just be by performance that it separates. If it doesn't separate, you choose one to start the game. If he doesn't play well, you put the other one in. And I remember one year that Coach Taft at Baylor was running quarterbacks in every play and had a really good team. I remember he would run them in every play and put a different one on the goal line short yardage package.
That's Coach President Howard Taft of Baylor. Apparently, the press conference court reporter doesn't know their SWC history.
And did Mack just go Cody Carlson and Tom Muecke up in here? He did. The two Baylor QBs alternated for two years in the 1980s. Commander Cody went on to be a back-up QB for the Houston Oilers and Muecke played in the CFL. That Brown drew on a 30 year old data point instead of his own experiences at Texas or UNC to make his point probably means he's not that interested in developing his cover story.
JUCO, Hawkins and Moore:
They both had a good semester academically, from what it sounds, they both had very good summers, and both of them will either start or get significant playing time.
We knew about Hawkins and he pretty much has to start, but if Moore dropping 15 pounds already is an indication of his commitment to fitness, we may have a player who can string together entire drives instead of individual snaps. Good stuff.
Mike Davis and his sophomore slump:
And last year he had a lot of personal things pop up and it just didn't work as well for him. It's harder for receivers when you're playing four quarterbacks. It's harder for them to feel the guy and get the chemistry with the guy. That's one thing we're working to find out right now. But Mike had a good spring. He's getting his confidence back. He's blocking better. His relationship is good with Darrell Wyatt, our new receiver coach. So we really need Mike to step up and have a great year, and we feel like he will.
Fingers crossed. He pretty much checked out over the second half of the season. If we can't complement Shipley with a legitimate threat, the field constricts like a thrift store neck tie.
Other points of interest:
- Brown mentioned that we'd only start two seniors on offense (Roberson, Grant), two on defense (Vaccaro, Okafor). So leadership has to come from the younger classes. I see multiple leaders on the defense, but who are they on offense? Can you name one? Mason Walters seems to have been tabbed, but his play has yet to match his reputation.
- On two separate occasions in this press conference, Mack mentioned that the value of developing a running game wasn't just for our offense, it's also so our defense can experience a real running game in practice. When Mack hits hard on a theme like that, it's typically staff conversations leaking out. I think those conversations began with Muschamp and have continued with Diaz.
- Mack emphasized we're not becoming a run first team. He wants balance. I agree. The predictions I see on some of the fan boards that we'll be 75% run are going to be wrong.
Thoughts?
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I take Mack’s seemingly goofy approach to the QB battle that exists only in his head as a way of signaling that Ash has to work to earn it during the off-season. I get the feeling that he doesn’t want to name Ash the starter, but rather give the impression that Ash earned it. I feel like Mack is big on saying the players know who the starter should be coming out of the off-season, and he is waiting for that process to play out.
by Big(g) Ern on Jul 24, 2025 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
If true, a definite change from his previous coronation of Gilbert
I think he just wanted to keep Case around.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 24, 2025 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
You are probably right. Makes perfect sense to keep Case around and keep the McCoy family happy by making them feel like he is being given an honest shot.
by Big(g) Ern on Jul 24, 2025 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Mack's history with qb's
Simms/Applewhite
Mock/Young
McCoy/Snead
McCoy/Gilbert
Gilbert/McCoy II/Ash
I just always cringe when he starts talking about quarterbacks.
by Megatube on Jul 24, 2025 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Significantly more to be .......
….. gained from Ash knowing he has the confidence of his staff. Unless David is lacking in self esteem. Players… starters, want to know they have the confidence of their coaching staff. Hand the young man the football and tell him to get to work.
Case wasn’t going anywhere. Brad’s previous shopping attempt proved there was no willing market.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Jul 25, 2025 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you. But the biggest mistake people tend to make
when examining any situation - whether geopolitical or interpersonal - is an assumption of rational actors.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 25, 2025 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend to think Case wants to be a Longhorn
regardless of the sorry ass haters. And i think that is a good thing.
by 55f100tx on Jul 25, 2025 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not easy having Colt as a big bro.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 26, 2025 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
you know that has to be right.
And who would have thought Colt would have turned out the way he did following the VY?
by 55f100tx on Jul 26, 2025 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
WR
I also read that Mack said that Cayleb Jones, Marcus Johnson and Kendall Sanders should all get immediate playing time and that all will be needed this year. Not necessarily surprising, but seems to be confirmation of reports that all 3 have impressed in the weight room and in 7 on 7s.
by Big(g) Ern on Jul 24, 2025 2:05 PM CDT reply actions
Re: Leadership on the offensive side
I think it’s got to come from the quarterback. Big McCoy took the reins as a sophomore, and he stepped up his level of play as a freshman beginning with a terrrific second half against OU.
Walters, maybe Espinoza up front. Shipley probably needs to be the guy at receiver, unless Mr. Olympian has leadership qualities I’ve not heard about. Some of leadership is have-to. You’re the best player at your positional area, others look to you, you become a de facto leader.
I worry less about leadership than youth. If Mack is listing only Roberson and Grant as senior starters, then we’re going with McFarland at TE. That means five sophomore starters (Ash, Espinoza, Cochran, Ship, the RB) and a freshman (McFarland), plus a JUCO (Hawkins). Only Espinoza and McFarland redshirted. Plus all the freshmen who will evolve into second-teamers.
Being young isn’t necessarily a bad thing. As Scip pointed out yesterday, give me young but capable as opposed to experienced but . . .
by edsp on Jul 24, 2025 2:24 PM CDT reply actions
Tough call on offensive leaders
I see plenty of guys that seem to be able to lead by example (Ash, Shipley, Brown and Bergeron), but I am not sure that I see any of them having the type of personality that lends itself to the vocal and magnetic leadership shown by VY or Colt.
If he puts the slump behind him, Mike Davis might be the best bet. Pretty big if there… but I just don’t see many other likely options.
by Big(g) Ern on Jul 24, 2025 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Grant is a TE, looks like he'll get the start over McFarland.
by Austin Native on Jul 24, 2025 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Grant is an H-back
H-back and TE are different positions.
Sometimes, they’re on the field together. Sometimes it’s one or the other. In a four-wide with a RB, neither is out there.
I love DJ, and some of what an H-back does mirrors what a tight end does. But Grant (and, presumably, Onyegbule) are H-backs. McFarland and Matthews and Daniels are TEs.
Sadly, none is David Thomas or Bo Scaife.
by edsp on Jul 24, 2025 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
While keeping Case around is important for
our depth, and our future at the QB position, I wonder what type of a market he would have outside the friendly confines of the 40 acres? I don’t see another top 20 school offering him a scholarship (or starters minutes) based on past performance.
That said, I expect Case will improve dramatically as he matures physically. I for one think we give up on QB’s way to early in general.
Unfortunately, my experience with ball velocity is you either have it or you don’t. No amount of weight work will turn you into John Elway.
by texitect on Jul 24, 2025 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
I wonder what type of a market he would have outside the friendly confines of the 40 acres?
I heard that there were feelers sent, and the response was not encouraging.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 24, 2025 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, you just summarized so many of my Friday nights.
by tronaldinho on Jul 24, 2025 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Were you all alone with yourself?
I keed, I keed
"I drank what?" ~ Socrates
by Ese-De-SA on Jul 24, 2025 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
When Mack hits hard on a theme like that, it's typically staff conversations leaking out.
Another good sign is the red flag in the flowerpot on his balcony.
What really gives him away, though? Even as he hides behind the pillar in the basement of the parking garage, whispering program information, you can hear him softly clapping.
Allegedly.
by Parlin on Jul 24, 2025 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Parlin I miss the days
of Dr Pepper poured softly over the right amount of ice, Major and Muschamp meetings.
Will they ever return, sans Muschamp but with Diaz.
by torre on Jul 24, 2025 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey!
A football article that doesn’t mention the SEC! Yeeeeeaaaah
by jkabuldog on Jul 24, 2025 4:27 PM CDT reply actions
and you had to ruin it didnt you.
If You See Kay, Oh You
by texfan23 on Jul 25, 2025 3:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Mack Brown
the only college football coach who can manufacture a B controversy where there is none. I just hope he isn’t still sucking Brad McCoy’s entrails out.
by boorad on Jul 25, 2025 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
Am I the only one who thought Mack was weird as hell yesterday?
bringing the cheerleaders and trying to get them involved in his press conference? Even the cheerleaders seemed a bit luke warm to it.
by Hippie Killer on Jul 25, 2025 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
I think,
Mack was laughing at you, and people like you the whole time. But that doesn’t mean you people shouldn’t be laughing at him.
by J-M-M on Jul 25, 2025 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Having now been to a media day and seen what it enatails
and knowing Mack has been to umpteen bazillion of them, frankly, were I in his shoes at this stage of his career, I’d hit the nitrous hard before I went on stage.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 26, 2025 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
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