A post-mortem appetizer: Spencer Hall takes in College Station

Link should be http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/29/2595941/texas-am-rivalry-sec

Uh, does Spencer not realize that A&M voted for unequal revenue sharing, had a higher than average take during their Big 12 stay, and could sell their local media rights as Big 12 members but just didn’t?

Huck, I thought the same thing.

Also thought the same thing. It seems such an easy story to tell, yet everybody seems to want to sell the spin. They could have made the same money by winning. This year they were guaranteed the same money even without winning. We are one of the few conferences that allows so much freedom with third tier rights. But this is about none of that.

This is about having a baby dick and standing next to a Clydesdale…..

Huckleberry said: “Uh, does Spencer not realize that A&M voted for unequal revenue sharing, had a higher than average take during their Big 12 stay, and could sell their local media rights as Big 12 members but just didn’t?”

No… as an LSU fan, I think Spencer just accepted the SEC happy talk sunshine spin Bullshit that A&M is leaving because it was all Texas’ fault.

His Texas friend is right about a lot of things in that post, but none of them are more right than “The Aggies are your headache now”

does Spencer not realize that A&M voted for unequal revenue sharing, had a higher than average take during their Big 12 stay, and could sell their local media rights as Big 12 members but just didn’t?

Repeat a lie often enough, and the casual observer will believe it as fact.

One does not fully absord the oddity of the Aggies in one visit. I believe they do not fit in anywhere.

I’m not a fan of constant chanting but setting a stadium on fire just seems like a fun idea.

Kyle Field needs a refurb so bad that a fire might help it.

Nice writeup sans the unilluminated candor with which Hall speaks about the financial side of this deal.

Holy Crap there actually are fans out there that are dumber than aggie.

Fenerbahçe serious was lighting half their stadium on fire (Aggie at least lighted their fires outside the stadium).

(S +A + ID) x 80,000 = D

where

S = soccer fan

ID = incendiary devices

A=alcohol

and

D = impending disaster.

I’m somewhat comforted by the hope that they do not allow alcohol in Turkish soccer stadiums due to Islam.

I could be wrong though.

Are all aggies that misinformed? Wow.

@Stevo67 — I think Spencer is a Gators fan, not LSU, but your point stands.

Well, Spencer is right that they’ll make more money. But the other guy is also right that A&M will regret it, and for all the reasons Spencer cites at the end.

A&M is an institution built on ritual and tradition — deeply conservative in the most basic way.

What conservatives are usually trying to conserve, more than anything else, is not so much money, or small government, or the sanctity of marriage, but simply the past: the world they grew up in, which is fading day by day and becoming something new.

By moving to the SEC, A&M is pissing all over its past. And it is forcing itself to do something it can’t do well at all: face an uncertain future, and change in smart ways to deal with the challenges of that future.

Good luck with that, Ags. I think you’ll be about as successful as the GOP has been.

I just read the entire “Losing Halftime” thread on texags. Sweet Marry mother of God.

They are all yours, SEC.

Louis:

By any measurable standard Aggie would LOVE to be as successful as that institution you mentioned that I will not so as to avoid certain deletion.

They won’t make more money per Taylor T Room

http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2011/11/03/and-then-profit/

“Uh, does Spencer not realize that A&M voted for unequal revenue sharing, had a higher than average take during their Big 12 stay, and could sell their local media rights as Big 12 members but just didn’t?”

No, he doesn’t. Great writer though.

I’m assuming that the “unexpected” win over Aggy postponed the Humidor that was promised for Friday.

Which makes me wonder if someone wasn’t jumping the gun. And by someone, I don’t mean Jesus.

Jeez…..this sounds like the conversations outside the family law chambers.

They won’t do as well as the GOP because there are no people at A&M monitoring the public reaction to their conservative ways on a daily basis. The GOP has to appeal to people (voters, just as the Dems must) while A&M has a very staunch element that not only refuses to do this but actually scorns any notion of doing so. This staunch element isn’t even the majority it once was at A&M, but it is still the most powerful force there.

To be clear, I’m not commenting negatively about the GOP.

Louis L’am Jones said: "What conservatives are usually trying to conserve, more than anything else, is not so much money, or small government, or the sanctity of marriage, but simply the past: "

Thank you for that simplistic, sophomoric explanation of conservatism.

You are wrong by the way. Oh, you are right about the technical definition of conservation and general political conservatism. But you are wrong and completely misunderstand how the label applies to American conservatism. Something that is better understood with the implementation of a capital ‘C’. It’s more of an ideology than a reactionary position.

Everybody in relation to gop dems or anything dealing with politics

STFU

Romavicta:
Right. It’s a marketing campaign to garner just enough support to win elections by compromising no more than is necessary to do so. In our system this is a constant tug of war for the ideological middle. The Aggies have very little interest in do this to the point that it’s part of their identity. I think this creates a mixed bag of results for them. I don’t think all their uniqueness and quirks are bad. I like many of them. Not that I’d want UT or anyone else to adopt them. I guess, for me, they’re that rare bird that you want in the zoo purely because it’s rare and unique, not because it’s beautiful.

srr50, I’m not trying to have a political debate so much as telling him he objectively doesn’t understand what he’s talking about.

It is one part North Korean pep rally, one part Fenerbahçe match, and several dashes of English Premiere League singalong.

They left out “a scoach of ”http://youtu.be/NTqAfJYWe58" rel="nofollow">Kosho".

Buzz. Kill.

I don’t think this “appetizer” is going to satisfy much longer.

posted 12:38a, 11/25/11

The tu band owes us an apology for playing 2 queen songs for a halftime show

OH, IT IS SO ON, NOW!!! I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH VERBS OF BEING AND PREPOSITIONS TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE BEGINNING TO CONVEY HOW ON IT IS!!!

TDL

We really don’t care — the rules are simple. This is a UT-sports centric blog — political tangents (even “educational” ones) are not welcomed for the simple reason that we do not want the “in for a dime, in for a dollar” tenet to take hold.

There are plenty of sites that cater to that, we determined from the begining that this was to be an apolitical site, and any foaming-at-the-mouth, scatalogical-epithet-filled posts would be strictly sports oriented.
 
We mean it.

On the great spectrum between left and right, we choose to go for the back door.

Now it is perfectly OK to belittle people for being Canadian, not using punctuation, carrying man bags, liking German shizzer porn, listening to Nickelback, and many other things that aren’t directly sports-related; we just have to leave the politics out because, well, people get all serious about it and shit.

“I’m assuming that the "unexpected" win over Aggy postponed the Humidor that was promised for Friday.

Which makes me wonder if someone wasn’t jumping the gun. And by someone, I don’t mean Jesus."

And just like every year there are so many moving parts that every bit if information on coaching moves is stale within 15 minutes. At the time of the teaser Urban Meyer wasn’t coach at tOSU and Chris Peterson wasn’t on the short list to take over at UCLA.

Does it involve sodomy and can it be analogized to Baylor’s run defense? If so, I say it’s a go.

TV dollars play a relatively small part of the most financially successful programs. Yes, A&M will make more TV dollars in the SEC but over the long run how much do they lose in merchandising? Winning brings the open wallet of the much maligned T-shirt fan, but its the T-shirt fan that actually makes the richest programs rich. A&M risks not only losing more on the field and therefore reducing the number of fair weather fans, but by isolating themselves in the SEC they also potentially lose appeal as people in Texas just don’t have the same ‘patriotism’ for a team that doesn’t play anyone else in the state. Why be an A&M fan when everyone else on the playground is arguing over whether Texas, Baylor, Tech, or TCU is better before they start conference play and actually have games in common?

TV dollars play a relatively small part of the most financially successful programs.

It is becoming pretty clear that TV dollars are becoming more and more important as the dollars get bigger and bigger.

We didn’t just go through round two of conference realignment because ATM sells out their stadium and the Core buys a ton of Saw Varsity’s Horns Off shirts.

Conference realignment is all about TV money.

A&M’s future success depends much more on their next coaching hire than on their being in the SEC or in the Big XII. If they make a good hire, they’ll be able to keep up in the SEC while using the additional revenues to improve their facilities and their overall program. If they make a bad hire, then the extra revenue won’t help them and being a doormat will drive them further down. Probably they will make a mediocre hire and continue being mediocre, same as it ever was.

In five years I think we’ll look back at this game as the push over the edge for the A&M football program. With a victory, A&M would have a little momentum and a lot of bragging.

Now. All trends point down, way down.

From a cash flow standpoint, this is absolutely the worst time for the Aggies to drop another 8 million + on coaching buyouts. With the expected loss of their 2011 TV money

Maybe some big cigar is willing to pony up though with the excitement of the impending move.

Is Shuttlesworth sick , dead or what?

Greg Davis was conservative.

roach, I get what you are saying, but I am talking about the big boys not the Mizzous or Colorados who derive most of their AD revenue from their TV money. Ohio State, Michigan, ND, and UT could throw away their TV dollars and still make more than any of the schools below them. A&M actually does very good on the non-TV revenue. I think they make a majority of their money from non-TV sources, which makes them among the elite minority who can do that. I wonder if this move jeopardizes that revenue stream. Do they get the extra handful of millions extra from TV but trade it in for a bigger loss on the non-TV side as their fanbase wastes away from lack of local interest for a mediocre team that doesn’t play any of the other important in-state schools?

Is Shuttlesworth sick , dead or what?

Lockout’s over, man. He’s back to work at his day job.

So what the scuttlebutt (I backed off of a strong inclination to write it as “shuttlebutt”) and teaser by Jesus that the Big Cigar had some news for us on Friday that in losing the aTm game Mack was being shown the door? Hard to imagine, but it sure seems like it might have been. If so, then has he saved his job for another year or two? And what can he do with that? Nothing less than a conference title and a shot at BCS game is acceptable next year. Willing to wait for 2013 for the chance of another national championship, but enough of these second tier conference finishes. Two in a row finishes in the middle-to-bottom in the conference is not Texas’ standard.

Waiting until after the Baylor game to post that info.

Was this kid:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7288039/oregon-state-beavers-quarterback-ryan-katz-decides-transfer

Any good? Can we get a rent-a-QB for one year, like Russell Wilson of Wiscy, so we can redshirt Conner Brewer for 2012?

I thought TexAgs had done enough to entertain me for a while, and then it went and gave new meaning to the phrase (and I’m paraphrasing here) “Once an Aggie, always an Aggie even if you end up with a big C in your title.” http://blog.chron.com/aggies/2011/11/aggies-athletics-cfo-admits-to-calling-am-president-putz/

Didn’t say Mack was going to be shown the door, just that an exit strategy is being considered. We still have Baylor, yes Baylor, and they are favored.

Ags have been conspicuously absent from this site since, oh, about 11:30pm on Nov 24. Feels like a breath of fresh air that lasts for….e-t-e-r-n-i-t-y.

By moving to the SEC, A&M is pissing all over its past. And it is forcing itself to do something it can’t do well at all: face an uncertain future, and change in smart ways to deal with the challenges of that future.

Reading TexAgs the past several days has been fun. Seeing how stubbornly entrenched so many of them are in their fucked-up, delusional, penis-envy, fake-army culture has been comedy gold. Seeing how desperately frustrated the few enlightened ones are that merely changing leagues and escaping the shadow of the evil t.u. won’t change THAT has been a window into Aggie misery at its finest. A scholarly examination of their cult should be the subject of someone’s doctoral thesis.

JMS — he got benched at Oregon St., so that tells you something. He didn’t have a lot of weapons this year, but still. I’ll grant he did look fairly decent last year at times.

Someone else walked through the top JUCO QBs from last year and what they are doing now, and none of them were doing much if anything. Fact is, the Aaron Rogers and Cam Newtons are extremely rare. Most end up as Steele Jantz.

I’m not saying there isn’t someone worth bringing from JUCO or the Wilson/Masoli rule, but the chances they pan out are slim

Where aggy supposed to find a cultural and socio-economic antipode within the SEC? If aggy’s raison d’etre is nothing more than yin to UT’s yang, they’d better pick somebody and brand their mascot real quick.

Vanderbilt is the new tu. Those snotty ass bitches. biltervand? comode the commodores?….. needs some work.

In looking over at 12th Man, I did not realize Kyle Field is a wreck. Even talking about demolishing it. Man are they headed for the dumpster

Now Mack is not on an official head coach in waiting time table, But if Texas was willing to take never before head coach Muschamp, why not Manny ? He has the tangibles.

Boredom is overtaking me.

The appetizers are running low. I don’t know how much longer before the kids have a meltdown.

Hurry Jesus, hurry Scip!

What is going on with this blog? There’s a lot going on….Diaz, DGB, juco, Sanders, 2013 recruits…..etc but we get Texas HS playoff updates on the cosm and we get Big 12 previews. If I wanted that, i’d go to espn. Is there anyone minding this store???

Jesus must be in the desert for 40 days or something….

Relax everyone - you get you pay for, and it’s free.

Smoke break. Cigarillo time

Awwwwww… You want some action? Mention politics, and a hall monitor will be with you shortly.

All those dissatisfied with the service will receive a full refund.

I have a Level 1 telling me that Shuttlesworth has been put on ice by Mack’s personal version of the Schutzstaffel, the Hellraisers. Don’t know whether we should use a literal or metaphoric connotation of ‘put on ice’ because it was a dead drop.

Scipio’s herpetic whitlow flares post Thanksgiving due to digestive and emotional stress.

In other words, you are gonna have to wait.

“I have a Level 1 telling me that Shuttlesworth has been put on ice by Mack’s personal version of the Schutzstaffel, the Hellraisers. Don’t know whether we should use a literal or metaphoric connotation of ‘put on ice’ because it was a dead drop.

Scipio’s herpetic whitlow flares post Thanksgiving due to digestive and emotional stress."

Love this site, I had to look up ‘Schutzstaffel’ (although its general meaning was easily inferred) and ‘whitlow’. Who says this site doesn’t provide good nawledge? No matter what kind of hit/hurt Mack’s minions put on Jesus, we have faith that he will appear in the next 3 days.

What is going on with this blog? There’s a lot going on….Diaz, DGB, juco, Sanders, 2013 recruits…..etc but we get Texas HS playoff updates on the cosm and we get Big 12 previews. If I wanted that, i’d go to espn. Is there anyone minding this store???

Meanwhile, the CFO of A&M Athletics has called Bowen Loftin a putz and a puppet on TexAgs, illustrating the divide between the AD’s office and the administration. No barker has weighed in on this comedy? WTF?

Blueshorn

And the cherry on the topping is that the CFO’s name is … wait for it … Toole. Only a tool calls his boss a putz on a public blog. This shit just writes itself.

And oh, yeah. Herman Cain 2012 baby!

Dmitri,

I had exact same thought. The Aggies appear to be suffering a full- blown existential crisis, if the various TexAgs threads I have perused are any indication.

They seem really desperate for Texas to put them on the schedule again.

What’s eating the Ags is that post Lone Star Showdown, the Aggies finally are realizing their identity crisis. Heaped in tradition, now flung into a tailspin. They aren’t SEC.

They are our functioning autistic brethren that while they don’t like us, we hug them just the same. When tell us they are army men, we stroke their hair and say “you sure are”. When they yell Whoop and do finger guns, we look up from our newspaper and smile and nod. When they climb the water tower, we know how to get them down. We put on a Hee Haw DVD, cook a chicken fried steak, put it on a TV tray and excuse ourselves.

We don’t get them, but accept them.

They just told us they don’t need us anymore and it’s time to go. Now they realize that Texas is as much a part of A&M as all their goofy bastard shit that no one else understands. Now it’s time to go be something you aren’t, because we can’t tell them what to do anymore. They are big boys too.

‘’Match in the gas tank, boom boom..’.

It’s sinking in much quicker than if they’d won on Thursday, then it would have taken another week or two. Without Texas, Aggies aren’t Aggies anymore, now who is going to accept them?

I do agree with all the ideas you have presented on your post. They’re really convincing and can certainly work. Still, the posts are very brief for beginners. May you please lengthen them a bit from subsequent time? Thank you for the post.