Football Scholarship Total to Remain at 85

The stipend is a good idea, though I think it should be more. Incidentals can be tough to come by for some young athletes, and that doesn’t include a laptop and printer, which I believe is a necessity for a college student.

Hook ’em!

They need to stop oversigning. How about 85 and ONLY 85. stop grayshirting, etc.

Will this multi-year thing help that?

Will this multi-year thing help that?

I believe it can. You don’t have to give multi-year schollies, but obviously most D-1 schools will give them out — and it could cause a tight number in terms of total scholarships available after a few years.

Orangechipper-

This won’t stop oversigning it just guarantees kids 1-4 year scholarships, This will just stop coaches from pulling those scholarships from kids who participate in football, follow team rules, stay out of legal trouble, and keep good grades…

I’m also against oversigning and am a little weary of UT’s latest attrition numbers but I highly doubt Mack pull’s scholarships (other than Darius White this year, but I bet he broke a few team rules), yes he obviously encourages transfers and early graduations from time to time (which wouldn’t be effected by this new multi-year scholarship) when needed but I doubt its anywhere near Saban levels, the differences between the medicals proves that…

Not sure about your issue with grayshirting, its legal and effective, if a year is loaded with DTs (like 2013) a school could tell players that’s not college ready that he can grayshirt and either pay their own tuition in the fall semester and walk-on the team year one or just wait until January. The only problem I have with grayshirting is when schools like Bama and LSU oversign above the 85 limit w/ no expected attrition and then surprise kids their first day on campus by telling them that they don’t have a scholarship, like LSU did with Elliot Porter.

I think I got this link from the other article yesterday on this topic, but it really is a great read. I was unaware of how the NCAA managed to get and keep so much power. I also did not realize that Chuck Neinas was both instrumental in helping to build that power and in almost gutting the funding of the NCAA in the 1980s.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/8643/

I was for getting rid of the NCAA before reading the article. Now I’m strongly for getting rid of them.

Amazing. The NCAA actually made some good and sensible decisions.

BTW, thanks for posting this srr. I’d been checking Yahoo Sports NCAA page all day looking for an update on this but they seem either completely unaware of it or they just don’t give a shit.

I didn’t see it in the linked article, but I just read elsewhere that the NCAA also voted to ban 7on7 tournaments from all NCAA campuses effective immediately.

More amazing rationality.

Meanwhile there is wailing and gnashing of teeth in aggyland about this ruling.

Great now can we go back to natural grass at DKR?

Rules, sensible or not, are just so much paper without enforcement.
Anything to indicate greater diligence and speedier action?

85 my ass

Did the NCAA vote to continue to profit off of unpaid labor via price-fixing arrangements and siphoning billions of dollars off to various coaches, administrators and functionaries?

Unpaid my asss

I think the question that grey shirting poses is who is actually paying that tuition bill.

Juice - At Alabama and LSU I don’t think there is much question. Just which booster is paying, is all.

craigjames - Just paid “insignificant amounts”. To the real Craig James: stick to that story, as you have just admitted to filing false tax returns for those years. Let’s see if your definition of “inisignificant” agrees with the IRS.

And if you think that was a long time ago, it can’t matter anymore? Sorry, Craig.

I’m surprised how little interest there has been here in this topic with several big decisions by the NCAA having gone down this weekend.

Would someone please define a grey shirt for me?

To my understanding greyshirting is when a kid has signed an LOI with a particular school, but due to either not enough available scholarships or insufficient grades he has to wait a year (maybe a semester) to join the team on scholarship. He can either go to the school on his own dime or wait a year to start school. This allows time for a scholarship to open up or for him to establish some college grades to be eligible. I believe that since he signed an LOI with that school he isn’t free to go elsewhere even though they don’t have a scholarship for him.

Issues with it that I see are….

1) The kid is stuck because he’s committed to them via the LOI but isn’t getting a scholarship.
2) It’s rife with opportuntiy for corruption in the form of boosters actually paying for his cost rather than him paying his way initially.
3) As such, kids grey shriting are like a pool of future talent above the 85 scholorship limit ready to be put to use when they are needed.
4) There’s no guarantee the kid will ever end up getting a scholarship if after a year the coaches decide they don’t want him, in which case he’s basically been screwed by waiting a year, supposedly paying his own way, and ends up with no scholarship.

There are probably others and I may have missed other nuances of the process.

After checking a little more I may have been incorrect with a couple of aspects above.

Here’s a link to a short article on it.

http://www.fanattic.net/football/grayshirting-college-footballs-shadiest-practice

From that article they give the following description.

Here’s how it works:
The interested school (lets call them State U) will encourage the recruit to sign a National Letter of Intent in February, but hold off on their enrollment until the following January.

Under this scenario, the school can actively evaluate the recruit’s physical performance for 11 months while they are not formally enrolled in classes.

When asked, Division I coaches will claim that they are up front about why they are offering a grayshirt to a potential student-athlete rather than a scholarship and it’s always to the recruit’s benefit.

The student-athlete needs time to rehab an injury. They need time to get their academics in order. They aren’t quite physically ready to compete for playing time.

While these reasons seem benign, what is going on behind the scenes is where the process gets its dubious reputation.

In reality, coaches are using grayshirting as a way to not formally commit themselves to a player and have the opportunity to "make them disappear" if it is determined that their ability is not up to snuff.

SEC schools have been oversigning and grayshirting players for years under the assumption that it is in the student-athlete’s best interest, when in reality it is a way to evaluate the potential of the player beyond the normal recruiting period without any consequences.

The NCAA has either chosen to turn a blind eye to the process, or in their desire to stay non-confrontational, have chosen to ignore the damaging effects it has.

If a student-athlete chooses to grayshirt at State U, and all of the sudden, seven months later they are told that they aren’t a fit, then what?

Any other offers they had on the table from competing programs are now out the window and they are back to square one without a team to play for.

Where there’s a will, Nick Saban has a way:

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/15/nick-saban-tells-star-atlanta-rb-to-wait-until-next-year-to-sign-with-alabama/

The best thing that could happen on the summer passing leagues is for the UIL to allow the high school coaches to be the one’s running the programs. Might not have to be the head guy, but do it for football and basketball. It is that way in other states and letting those relationships start to form is where the contact shit begins in the first place.

Any idea if there were any major players out of the 82 objecting to multi year scholarships, and if so were 14 of them SEC schools?

As the college revenue streams continue to climb by millions every year and coaches salaries sky rocket, it will be impossible to continue the sham of amateurism in basketball, baseball and football. I look forward to the day that Texas will be able to openly pay with the best of them. Until then, we are going to suck hind tit among the elites and the aspiring to be elites.

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