SEC, Big 12 to create a "Rose Bowl" Alliance

by srr50 on May 18, 2025 12:08 PM CDT in Texas Longhorns and Other Football

The SEC and the Big 12 are forming an alliance to create a major bowl match up, just in case neither is part of the new 4-team playoff beginning in 2014.

The two leagues have signed a five-year contract for the bowl and announced that the game will be played annually on New Years Day.

Currently the Fiesta Bowl hosts the Big 12 champion and the Sugar Bowl hosts the SEC winner -- if they are not in the BCS Championship game. The idea behind the move is to create a "BCS" style game just in case they are left out of the (assumed) 4-team play off that will be in place by 2014.

Supposedly this concept has been in the talking stages for a couple of years, as BCS conferences tried to work around the Pac12-Big10/Rose Bowl stumbling block to a +1 format.

The permanent hosting site for the proposed bowl will be up for bid, but the Sugar and Cotton Bowls are expected to be most interested in hosting the game. The Sugar Bowl has hosted the SEC champion since 1976 and would be expected to stay in the No. 1 slot when the conference signs its new bowl contracts, which begin after the 2014 regular season.

Should one of the two conferences champions make the play off it is expected that this new bowl would then select another team from that conference before any other bowl with conference tie-in.

It appears that the Sugar Bowl is the favorite to capture the new SEC/Big 12 Bowl, but Jerry Jones is certainly ready to throw lots of money at the project.

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If the pundits are to be believed

This will destroy the ACC and all but ensure FSU approaches the Big 12. Also speculation that it will force Notre Dame to seriously reconsider its independent status.

It sure is nice to have Neinas/Bowlsby and people in charge of the conference that are proactive and forward thinking.

by Big(g) Ern on May 18, 2025 12:12 PM CDT reply actions

And this part:

“Should one of the two conferences champions make the play off it is expected that this new bowl would then select another team from that conference before any other bowl with conference tie-in.”

Would seem to seriously cut into the fiesta bowl’s Big 12 tie-in, and I’m fine with that.

You can charge that to the game!

by T1climb1 on May 18, 2025 12:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

I'm bummed about the Fiesta Bowl potentially losing its Big 12 tie-in...

But only because I live in Tempe.

by Jimbone on May 18, 2025 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Lots of Big12 v SEC history in the Cotton Bowl

I may be a homer, but that just makes too much sense.

@ccommand3r

by CMDR on May 18, 2025 12:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

"It sure is nice to have Neinas/Bowlsby and people in charge of the conference"

are you certain this isn’t the work of Dan Beebe?

Will the game be “The Stepfather of Them All”?

by ole tnhorn on May 18, 2025 12:51 PM CDT reply actions

good point

sounds like this has supposedly been in the works for a while.

that being said, i blame beebe for all that is wrong in the world. he is the sacrificial lamb that takes away the sins of the world. syria — beebe. this insufferable rash — beebe.

by Big(g) Ern on May 18, 2025 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions

This is more about a consolidation of power that a bowl game.

This is about getting ready for the next downsizing in college football (hello ACC and Big East) and it might — might, make the cooling off period between Texas and Texas A&M a bit shorter before they start playing again.

by srr50 on May 18, 2025 12:54 PM CDT reply actions

I am stunned that

anyone of your stature could think that Texas could play at A$M’s level at anytime in the near future. Bite your tongue, srr.

:-)

by j_java on May 18, 2025 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Aggie smack was the first thing I thought of, too.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

by JohnnymacIAG on May 18, 2025 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Short list of proposed names for new bowl game....

The Dollar Bowl

The Jones Bowl

The PPV Bowl

The Football Coaches Hedge Fund Bowl

The Death to the BCS Bowl

by Philly Frog on May 18, 2025 1:21 PM CDT reply actions

Creating a new bigtime bowl in 2014

Really should take the wind out of the sails of those worried about playoff creep.

Sounds like the power players in Big12 and SEC are counting on playoffs to be restricted to 4 teams for the foreseeable future.

@ccommand3r

by CMDR on May 18, 2025 1:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

Big 12 Champ and SEC Champ

Not in top 4?

This game should be played in Narnia.

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by Sailor Ripley on May 18, 2025 1:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

does it really matter?

How many times would this game take place? I would bet somewhere around 80-85% of the 4 team playoffs would include the SEC or Big 12 Champ.

by codaxx on May 18, 2025 1:56 PM CDT reply actions

the big deal would seem to be that the ACC just got left without a dance partner. The conferences will now pick who is in the bowl game and will not allow the BCS to cobble together steaming piles of poop.

in years where the conference champions are in BCS games, the conferences will now send their next best teams to this game.

by Big(g) Ern on May 18, 2025 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Based on the last 14 seasons,

the history of the BCS, a game between the Big XII and SEC champions would NEVER have taken place in this bowl game.

by DoubleB on May 18, 2025 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions

That's not the point.

This game gives a second or third place team a soft, rich place to land on New Years.

It also signals that the the ACC and Big East are out of the game of musical BCS chairs when the concept of 4 super conferences finally takes hold.

by srr50 on May 18, 2025 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions

yes

Politically, it is a larger move. The reality is that it probably means little to Big 12 and SEC fans

by codaxx on May 18, 2025 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Except that the timing when combined with the BCS discussions and the ACC tv contract would seem to further push realignment, and this as much as anything provides further evidence that the Big 12 is not going anywhere. Big 12 fans - especially those of schools that just a few months ago had to wonder if their destiny led to the Missouri Valley Conference - now have to feel pretty damn happy.

Notre Dame to the Big 12 is also no longer the pipe dream that it seemed. If you go to Notre Dame message boards, they understand the implications of this announcement and understand that they are on the clock and barring a miracle that gives them a shot at one of the playoff spots, they are left to choose between the Big 10 and the Big 12.

by Big(g) Ern on May 18, 2025 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions

ND Fans

Want to Play in the Jesus Bowl

Good old Catholic vs Baptist match up every yr.. 20% shot the Pope shows up

by codaxx on May 18, 2025 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions

It gives the

Big 12 a soft place to land. The SEC bowl lineup was already carefully crafted for New Year’s Day money and exposure.

I think people are overrating this announcement. The release specifically states this game would be outside the playoff system. It’s a 5-year agreement—just enough time for Texas to get its house in order to go independent.

How are the ACC and Big East out of anything? All we know is that the two best football conferences over the last 15 years are going to play each other in a bowl game. I’m sure they are still involved in a playoff system.

I think it’s leverage against the Rose Bowl and Pac-10/B1G. Maybe they put it on at the same time to let them know their “product” isn’t all that and it’s time to join the 21st century.

by DoubleB on May 18, 2025 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I just reread it

It specifically states the game is for primetime.

by DoubleB on May 18, 2025 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Well

There’s this:

New bowl a death knell for ACC?

“This could be Day 1 of Armageddon in terms of four-conference conglomeration,” a college football powerbroker told ESPN.com on Friday.

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by Sailor Ripley on May 18, 2025 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

and Bowls

Hearing that Big 12 and SEC will negotiate the terms. This will be a game put on by the conferences for the conferences.

by codaxx on May 18, 2025 5:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I caught that too.

Cutting out the middlemen.

@ccommand3r

by CMDR on May 18, 2025 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, you're right

I agree w/codaxx above. This really doesn’t affect the Big XII or SEC that much. They can get a bowl game to support their champion.

But the ACC, and especially the Big East, can’t. 20 years ago, the ACC Champion went to the Citrus Bowl. Where does the ACC champ go after 2014? Citrus again? Gator? Peach? Going 10-2 or better, but being just outside of the playoff system and treated like Boise State can’t be very enticing to the likes of Clemson and FSU.

If the SEC were REALLY GOOD, they’d get their 2nd place (or choice) team to play the ACC champ in the Orange Bowl.

by DoubleB on May 18, 2025 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions

this is Delo$$

Saying we do not need your bowls. We are Texas. We will make our own

by codaxx on May 18, 2025 6:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Why are you still talking independence?

Texas is primed now to make more money than the GNP of England - and this by being in a conference. Why in hell would UTY be interested in going independent?

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on May 18, 2025 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I had to look at the calendar.

I thought this might be April 1.

by lurkerinthedark on May 18, 2025 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

The only thing missing in what's been going on the last couple of month's

is Slive live on a mic saying a retroactive “fuck you” to Dan BeeBee Brain.

by boorad on May 19, 2025 5:19 PM CDT reply actions

Twitter

Is this going to play out on twitter? I am at home sick today, and twitter is going full blast. Rumors of Clemson, FSU, ND, and GT are flying fast.

FWIW, I have never thought that ND to the B1G was close to a given. It may even be strategic misdirection being employed to distract from the ultimate goal. Certainly the B1G has some plus factors to offer, but the negatives may be too great to overcome. Could Delaney overcome them, probably, but what would he do about the outcries from the other conference big boys - and I’m not talking Nebraska.

by j_java on May 20, 2025 11:38 AM CDT reply actions