Texas Longhorns Latest Offer: Scouting 2013 OL Andrew Billings
Juggernaut lives. Check out the highlight at 2:02 if you want to see a DL actually have an existential crisis on the field. "I have three more quarters of this."
Billings, a high school junior, would be one of the strongest members of the Longhorn football team and is stronger than most NFL players his size. Check out these vitals from March testing of this year:
Bench - 470
Squat - 700
Deadlift - 650
That's a 1820 combined lift and it's real damn strong. If you're not familiar with powerlifting rules, all bench press numbers come from a pause bench press. The bar comes to a complete stop on your chest to prevent bouncing upward momentum so that it can be considered a good lift. That's not a requirement in any Golds gym or combine testing, so Billings is actually "stronger" than his 470 bench press.
For a guy that strong, that young, I worry about plateau. Then I stumbled across this. These THSPA numbers from Billings' sophomore year show that just 13 months before (and 30 pounds lighter) his lifting splits were 345-485-515. He's added 475 pounds to his lift total in just over a year. Obviously, this rate of increase will slow, but he's nowhere near maxed out as a power athlete. A 550+ bench and 800 in the squat are perfectly reasonable goals if he wants them (though I'd argue from a football perspective those numbers represent diminishing returns in on field performance and his time would be better spent working on his feet, football skills, and conditioning).
Enough about powerlifting. What about Billings on the field? And what did Longhorn coaches see in person at camp that so blew them away?
His applied strength is evident. Plenty of muscle heads struggle to apply their power on the field because they don't have the athletic ability to do it. Billings is powerful (which is better than strong as it speaks to application) and his initial punch is brutal. It's small space athleticism and it's not just for wide receivers. Naturally, he had 134 pancakes last year. Disregard his OT position - he has to be an interior OL in college due to his height and feet, but I was quite encouraged to see solid defensive highlights from him at NT and even lined up at DE as a pass rusher. Billings is certainly not as good an athlete as Harker Heights product Darius James, but he avoids my dreaded offense only specialization that generally tells you something about an OL's athletic ability and aggression. He has a motor and he can move. He's not going to tear up the basketball court (maybe the Asian courts), but that's OK.
Billings becomes less effective the longer the distance and he's not going to be de-cleating safeties 20 yards downfield on a bubble screen in a college game, but he has plenty of athletic ability in his first two steps. Look at the quick burst swim move he puts on as a NT. Check out his initial punch blocking down. That's all I really care about at OG. Larry Allen probably couldn't run a mile, but you wouldn't want to fight him in a broom closet. If you're interested in establishing an offense built on interior run game bullying and play action off of it, Billings is your man. Put him in a spread offense where he's facing DEs playing DT lined up in a track stance knowing that a pass is coming and he'll be markedly less effective.
I have two major concerns about Billings.
6-1, 305 at his age can easily become 6-1, 350 as a college junior if he isn't sufficiently motivated or our S&C coaches refuse to share a vision of what his proper body composition should be. He could easily Taylor Bible it. It's much more fun to add pounds to your bench press than run line drills in the June heat. All of his power is useless if he lacks the motor to put it on people. Football is a game of movement, even on the interior line, and if Billings is sluggish, he'll be an oversized chew toy for the pit bulls lined up across from him.
At his height, short arms are a major disadvantage in pass protection. A 6-4 DT with orangutan arms can rip and control while T-rex arms flail. According to Billings' high school coach, Andrew has long arms. The tape seems to agree. Which makes his lifting numbers even more spectacular and gives him some hope in pass protection.
In any event, this is a really interesting prospect, who, if properly guided and (self) motivated has a real shot at contributing. His recruitment also tells you something about Searels' desire to add some nasty into our OL stock.
Thoughts?
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Thanks for the write-up. Excellent job as always.
Now let me be the first to say “if he’s any good, how come I ain’t never heard of him before?”
Seriously, this guy sounds like an Alabama type interior guy to me, and I’m not the least bit bothered by that. We could also use a center on the 40 which is where he appears to be slotted by Stacy for the time being.
by boorad on Jun 5, 2025 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
Center is a great spot for his skill set
No one is going to move him backwards and nose tackles will think he’s a motherfucker. The center move also tells me something about his intelligence.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 5, 2025 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea but is he Texas good?
Film seems to indicate a manimal. I like that. Good point about another Bible. I have confidence in our staff to gauge his football passion and only offer very motivated men who want to workout and get better.
by ShameAndFailure on Jun 5, 2025 2:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He basically crashed our camp and ripped his scholarship out of Searels' hands
I like that. But he needs to understand (or have it explained to him) that his ability to be great will be as much about his feet as winning the next meet.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 5, 2025 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the offer
I have felt very comfortable with Searels’ offers thus far, and given that the guy has seemingly criss-crossed the country in recent months, I don’t feel like this is simply a lazy eval resulting from Billings showing well at camp.
Plus - we have hired a nutrionist apparently, so that combined with a S&C coach that I don’t know, actually monitors workouts and holds players accountable, will hopefully limit the number of future Taylor Biblical eating binges.
by Big(g) Ern on Jun 5, 2025 2:47 PM CDT reply actions
The nutritionist thing is good
But there’s no profession with more range between excellence and utter incompetence on the planet. A majority of these nitwits are still teaching the food pyramid while others are pushing the boundaries of athletic performance in ways inconceivable. So I’ll wait and see. I’m not really sure we know what good is.
I’m with you on Searels. He is not in the settling game.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 5, 2025 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed on the nutrtionist aspect
From what I have read, they haven’t released a name yet. At the very least, hopefully this is another person watching these guys’ weight to sound early warning bells if someone is piling on bad pounds.
by Big(g) Ern on Jun 5, 2025 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Scip you need to go to Palo Alto and report back
I’ve read they’re doing some leading edge stuff at Stanford in sports nutrition.
by boorad on Jun 6, 2025 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Holy Shit
This:
Juggernaut lives. Check out the highlight at 2:02 if you want to see a DL actually have an existential crisis on the field. “I have three more quarters of this.”
Made it easy for you all. Just click this: VIDEO
Really is must see.
by Sailor Ripley on Jun 5, 2025 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
I love this because it appears the coaches are digging deep to find the gems.
He was simply mistreating opponents on those highlights. This makes me feel better about third and short — assuming he commits.
And he reminds me of Peter Griffin with the Patriots.
by WreckerTex on Jun 5, 2025 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, that one. Fortunately, Billings doesn't seem to be a showboater.
by WreckerTex on Jun 5, 2025 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
The same one
That played for the London Silly Nannies?
by Big(g) Ern on Jun 5, 2025 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
And Jackson Jeffcoat is Jay Leno
Hehehehe!
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by BrickHorn on Jun 5, 2025 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You can see the mental white flag being slowly raised by his conscience.
"The words printed here are concepts. You must go through the experiences." - St. Augustine
by Funkytown on Jun 5, 2025 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Really like the one where he follows the long run and recovers the fumble
Shades of Kasey Studdard/Jamaal Charles vs. Tech circa 2006.
by Horncasting on Jun 5, 2025 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason I thought that was Nebraska in 2006
Probably both
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by kriess on Jun 5, 2025 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I haven't seen the movie...
Which member of the Avengers is he again?
by Fried Rice on Jun 5, 2025 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
This guy:
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by SP!DER on Jun 6, 2025 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
how does a guy this big
fly under the radar? Gotta like a defensive mindset in an offensive lineman.
by mdhorn on Jun 5, 2025 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
I like the thinking outside the box mentality
If he can play, screw the size. Quan Cosbie was too small, right? Seems like he could play a little.
Baylor had a guy some years back who was an utter killer on special teams blocking kicks, IIRC. We had a kick-block specialist, too, in Mack’s early years. Neither had the “usual” college height and weight measures.
I wonder, too (said this on BON), if there’s height in the family that might show up in Andrew in a year or two.
by edsp on Jun 5, 2025 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
If he's playing interior OL
6-1 with long arms is fine if he’s bringing a bunch else to the party.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 5, 2025 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
The film made me laugh
I’d love to hear his opponents in the huddle. Probably a lot of arguments with teammates. There’s one play where he looked like Cal’s NT abusing Dom.
by ole tnhorn on Jun 5, 2025 4:28 PM CDT reply actions
The best part about his reel?
EVERYONE looks surprised when he touches them. And by touch, I mean throws them around like rag dolls.
by e1 kabong on Jun 5, 2025 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
BEASTLY...
Take…insta-take. In fact, can we get him for this year?
by e1 kabong on Jun 5, 2025 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry if this has been covered
Why not just make him a NT?
He’s shorter, but stronger.
http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cody_terrence00.html
by Quigley on Jun 5, 2025 7:34 PM CDT reply actions
I'm a Fan of the Billings Offer
First of all, his name is Andrew. It’s the best name in the baby book. It’s Greek, for those of you who don’t know, and means “strong and manly; warrior.” What’s not to like about that?
Second, he will come in setting the bar high with his explosive power. The average freshman lineman doesn’t come in with this type of strength and flexibility. Power lifting has given him exceptional knee bend and strength. He has the natural ability to play lower and stronger, creating unmatched leverage against defenders. The great thing about his punch is that it’s not just about upper body strength; he brings it from his legs through his core and finishes with his hips, all in one motion. It takes surprising level of sophistication and difficulty to accomplish that. As a coach, you want your entire roster to have this type of power. He comes in with it. I’m impressed.
As much as I want to be concerned about him facing a taller DT with long arms, I’ve noticed that an overwhelming number of taller DTs play high, lose leverage and get moved off the ball by guys like Billings. Also, players with longer arms aren’t as strong when extended. If Billings’ maintains exceptional strength at the next level, defenders will be forced to have a little bend in their elbows to survive his punch and power. I trust him in those battles.
There’s no doubt he’s a man amongst boys on his this level. He’ll need his footwork and smarts to match the traits listed above. Only time will determine his growth there. Whether he’s the next great Longhorn lineman or not, I love that the staff is getting away from ideal measurables and focusing on strengths a limited number of kids nationally have under their belt.
by Drew Kelson on Jun 5, 2025 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Most Andrews are hairdressers and florists.
FACT.
Thanks for your thoughts.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 5, 2025 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
What is really impressive to me is,
the way he centers up DB’s and LB’s on the move. That is really hard for a big guy even if the opponents suck. Usually, they will slow down and screen with the body or throw at the legs. But this dude just centers them up like its no big thing.
Also, it seems his touch inspires flight.
by The General on Jun 5, 2025 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
Also, is it weird that he plays with good leverage as an OL
but plays too high as a DL?
by The General on Jun 5, 2025 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
It's a maturity thing...
When you’re O-lineman your job is the man in front of you or in your blocking zone. Both of which are typically in your immediate area of reach.. When you’re a young d-lineman you tend to think too far ahead, stand high, and peek at the backfield before handling what’s in front of you. Not weird at all. But, something that will need to be addressed if he goes the D-line route.
by Drew Kelson on Jun 5, 2025 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense
Particularly the way high school offenses have gone to the spread. Less interior running and you want to get your pass rush on.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 5, 2025 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
i like this kid. only thing i would like more would be a single video for offensive highlights/plays only and a single video for defensive stuff.
kid is definitely destined for great things on the offensive side of the ball.
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by texfan23 on Jun 6, 2025 7:13 AM CDT reply actions
His editing/directing career is down the shitter.
by The General on Jun 6, 2025 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It would be great......
……. to no longer fail in our 4th-’n-goal situations in the future. This just the kind of road grader I expected to recruit when Searels signed on the dotted line!
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by HornChamps on Jun 6, 2025 9:44 AM CDT reply actions
About those numbers ...
If you’re not familiar with powerlifting rules, all bench press numbers come from a pause bench press.
Yeah, but powerlifting competitions also allow benchers to widen their grip in a way S&C coaches in football probably wouldn’t allow, because it would have poor carryover.
And just how in the hell does anyone deadlift less than they squat?
by SP!DER on Jun 6, 2025 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
Squat vs deadlift
And just how in the hell does anyone deadlift less than they squat?
That’s the norm for super heavy and heavyweights. Only 1 of the top 14 SHW in Texas pulls more than squats.
by Scipio Tex on Jun 6, 2025 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
That's impressive, considering the following:
4. Upon receiving the Chief Referee’s signal, the lifter must lower the body until the top surface of the legs at the hip joint is lower than the top of the kneecaps.
I could count all the times I’ve seen that at the gym on one shop-teacher’s hand.
by SP!DER on Jun 6, 2025 12:10 PM CDT reply actions
You can count the number of times you’ve BEEN to the gym on one shop teacher’s hand.
Boom!
by BurntOrangeJuice on Jun 6, 2025 2:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I will now demonstrate
this bronzed shop-teacher’s hand and its utility as a prostate stimulator.
Try to relax …
by SP!DER on Jun 6, 2025 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well you see a lot of humorous sights at the gym.
My favorite is probably the guy who benches 50% more than he actually can, then only lowers the bar about 6 inches of actual travel, stopping well over a foot short of his chest. Yeah dude, you benched so much weight. everybody is gawking at how strong you are. You win the gym!!! That is the goal, right?
"ABC welcomes you back to Vince Young Field"
-Rose Bowl sign
by Andrew Wiggin on Jun 6, 2025 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
… with his ass going higher than the bar ever came down, groaning like the bottom in a blue boy film.
Or so I’ve heard.
by SP!DER on Jun 6, 2025 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you talking about prostate stimulation again?
"The words printed here are concepts. You must go through the experiences." - St. Augustine
by Funkytown on Jun 6, 2025 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hughes has been on the radar of some schools
for quite some time and once again proves if you purely trust recruiting site lists for players you are going to miss some names of some damn good football players
As to his being “Texas good” just leave him alone and he is welcome in Ft. Worth.
Damn shame Texas is started to find out there are out football players in Central Texas outside of Austin.
by davey o'brien on Jun 6, 2025 10:44 PM CDT reply actions
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