The Heisman Trophy And What Vince Young Meant To Texas
The Heisman Memorial trophy has developed a reputation as an award that goes not to the most outstanding player in college football during the regular season but rather to the player who is most effectively publicized by his athletic department and ESPN. Much of the blame for this reputation can be heaped upon the inability of several Heisman winners to put up half decent showings in the National Championship games that have followed their pre-mature coronations (here's looking at you Jason White).
However, for the most part, one can argue that every recent winner of the Heisman had at least a legitimate stake to a claim as the nation's most outstanding player. Most Texas fans will argue vehemently against this notion, branding me a liar, a traitor, or, even worse, a Californian. I won't argue the first two, but, so help me God, don't put the burden of the third on these shoulders. Thus, instead of the standard stat-filled piece we have all seen far too many times, I am simply going to try to put into words what Vince Young meant to me as a fan and how I perceive his impact on the Texas football program, which, in my opinion, is the strongest argument anyone can make for his deserving of the Heisman trophy.
The first five years of the Mack Brown era at Texas were incredibly frustrating from the fans' standpoint. We finally had a coach who was willing to utilize the innate advantages that come with being the flagship university of the biggest recruiting hotbed in the nation, a coach whose hail-fellow-well-met persona had re-awakened a fanbase that had been beaten and abused for far too long. Yet it seemed for all the recruiting accolades and flashes of promise, the Longhorns would be nothing more than perennial contenders for the Holiday/Cotton Bowl championships. Commentators, sports journalists, and the drunk mid-30s ex-frat rat, who stood behind my father and me at games and still rocked flowing Bama bangs despite his rapidly expanding bald patch, began to label us with such adjectives as "soft," "spoiled," and "weak-willed." By the end of the 2003 season, it seemed we would be able to consistently out-talent the lesser opponents on the schedule, but the chin-less mastermind in Norman had Mack's number and would soon put the final nail in the coffin of his career at Texas.
Vince Young blew all of this out of the water. While Vince's career through the first half of his sophomore year featured a few mistakes, some bad games and several calls for him to be moved to receiver by the message board gurus/idiots, the talent was clearly there, and it was developing quickly. More importantly, he brought a dynamism and attitude to the QB position that extended beyond his ability to cover 20 yards in a few strides or escape pressure in the pocket when you had already turned away from the TV grimacing at what seemed a sure sack. In 2005, Vince Young was the first QB at the University of Texas that ever had me thoroughly convinced that we would win every game we played. I was never able to say that previously, and I'm not sure if I ever will again.
Think about the games Texas won in 2005. The 2005 Ohio State team was very, very good. Teams from earlier in the Mack Brown era probably not only lose that game but lose it in very ugly fashion. The pre-VY teams didn't come back from being down 28-12 at halftime in Stillwater, but, when your 6'5 QB can spring for 80-yard TD runs at any moment, your ability to erase deficits becomes a little easier.
Since this article is supposed to discuss the Heisman, the magic of the Rose Bowl doesn't enter into the equation. Vince probably lost any shot at the Heisman with his pedestrian performance against A&M the day after Thanksgiving when he finally had a chance to be highlighted on Sportscenter without immediately being followed by Bush's latest unnecessary flip into the endzone. The truth of the matter is he probably never had a real shot at the award as long as USC went through the regular season undefeated. ESPN had already decided they were one of the greatest teams of all time, and the best player in the nation has to play on the best team. Thankfully, the Longhorns were given the chance to prove it on the field, and we were all treated to the best individual performance in college football history.
Did Vince Young deserve the Heisman? Absolutely, but, in the end, the exploits of Vince Young will be remembered for far longer than those of Eric Crouch, Gino Torretta, Jason White and, even, Reggie Bush. He was the best player to ever wear burnt orange, and Mack is very, very thankful he did. So am I.
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Thanks, Rex.
That’s pretty much how I feel. It would have been gratifying for him to win it but this way he’s basically legend. It almost underscores it.
by Sailor Ripley on Jul 19, 2025 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed!
I couldn’t have said it better. I will take it a step further and say VY might be the best college football player ever.
by rwglvr on Jul 19, 2025 7:48 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
the fact
That Reggie Bush won by the largest margin ever, at that time, over the runner up still boggles my mind.
It is a potent reminder of both the influence of ESPN and of the stupidity of mankind, even if it never officially happened.
"If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."
by RedmondLonghorn on Jul 19, 2025 8:32 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
The Tao according to Men in Black.
We're going to play like we're in a bad mood.
by JoeT63 on Jul 20, 2025 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Said it perfectly.
Even when we were down three or four touchdowns, my primary question was “I wonder how he’ll do it.” I was there at the Michigan Rose Bowl, watched on television what he did to a great OSU defense in the Shoe at night, I was there against USC in the biggest game day atmosphere in college football history, and I’ve never seen a player dominate other great players so thoroughly on a big stage.
He made average receivers studs, RBs added a yard per carry to their average just by lining up next to him, offensive linemen who blew an assignment saw that DE juked and got to live for another day….he was a human eraser and the game was written in pencil.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 19, 2025 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
I've always believed that Vince's most important play for Mack
came in 2004.
No 4th and 18 against Kansas — no Rose Bowl against Michigan, and I seriously doubt that team has enough faith to make it through another bitter summer to make magic in 2005
by srr50 on Jul 19, 2025 8:51 PM CDT reply actions
Speaking of faith
VY had an innate athletic geometry that I could not perceive, because there was no fucking way I thought he was going to convert that 4th down when he first took off running. I distinctly remember screaming,“Nooooooo……noooo………..YES!”. Lots of “Nooo…..YES!” moments in VY’s career.
by Scipio Tex on Jul 19, 2025 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
That sums it up for me, too. “What the hell does he think he’s do….OH, YEAH!”
by Longhorn in Canada on Jul 19, 2025 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Recently rewatched that 4th quarter
and the amazing thing in rewatching that play is that it seemed so effortless. It was like it was 4th and 8, not 4th and 18. He made up 18 yards like it was nothing. Then the TD pass when it was a foregone conclusion that the FG unit was headed out. Was in the cotton bowl when robert brewer ran the qb draw to beat alabama. went nuts after stafford to jones. but nothing comes close what vince did over the last year and a half of his college career. Honestly, at the time, given 35 years of agonizing (yes I was also at the cotton bowl loss to georgia) disappointment, the only thing that mattered to me was winning that game. We had a good team, but Vince was, I firmly believe, the greatest college football player ever (at least over a year and a half period).
by Noonan100 on Jul 19, 2025 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Vince is Legend
The 2005 Rose Bowl is forever etched in my memory, and that’s a very good thing because I keep burning up the recording medium watching it. My friends think it is funny.
Following the Rose Bowl, the OSU game in Stillwater is the one that I recall most vividly, because my longtime significant other suggested the game was over at half and that we should do something interesting. I declined, and we watched a very ‘interesting’ second half. For another 30 minutes, he walked around muttering something about not believing Vince did that. I laughed.
Fun times.
by j_java on Jul 19, 2025 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
I tend to be a pessimistic fan
I KNEW we would win every game in 2005.
by Monahorns on Jul 19, 2025 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
The thing that pissed me off the most
Was that in 2005 he went out and did everything as a passer that the media and fan of every other school out there said he couldn’t do after 2004. Remember ESPN naming him to the All Bowl team after the the 2004 season……..as a RUNNING BACK? Remember The CU coach saying he couldn’t beat them through the air? He never got the credit for improving as a passer that he deserved.
by Horncasting on Jul 19, 2025 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
All in with Vince!
that was our tailgate motto all season long in 2005. We were all there at the rose bowl against Michigan and that is when I became a true believer. The Ok St game in 2004 was the first game where I felt like their lead didn’t make me worry. As we marched down and scored right before half, we headed to the alumni center for a drink at half basically figuring out the next steps…we get the ball to start the half, we score there, and the game is on. I had no idea that we would score 6 TDs in the 2nd half! I was at a wedding during the KU game in 2004 and shut it off in the 4th assuming we had lost. When I heard we won, I was flabbergasted. From that point on, I knew that no game was over with VY at QB.
In 2005, right before the Ohio St game, we all said that we were all in with Vince. We actually booked our flights to the Rose Bowl 2 nights before we headed to Columbus for the game. We knew after that game that nothing was stopping us from getting to Pasadena, it was just a matter of how we were going to dispose of the teams on the schedule. The Big 12 CG had to have been the most perfect I have ever seen a team play an entire game.
When we went down 12 with under 6 min to go in Pasadena, I knew we would score one easily, but wasn’t sure how we would score 2. I felt we would, but not sure how. It was one of the most amazing days & nights of my life. No amount of money to be in that stadium was too much after seeing how it turned out…and I did pay quite a bit.
Texas may have other great seasons soon and win another NC soon, but nothing will ever top that year in 2005. We had the best player in the country (maybe of all time) and we were peaking with tons of talent maximizing. It is a thing of beauty to see top talent playing at the top of their game.
by KDOG95 on Jul 19, 2025 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
Crazy stat from the 2004 Ok. State game
Texas score 5 touchdowns between Ok. State first downs.
That’s how you draw up a comeback!
by Horncasting on Jul 20, 2025 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
That NC will be the best game ever played in college football, and Mack is the UT HC today solely because of VY. Vince should be getting at least half of his salary package.
by Zzzizzzy on Jul 20, 2025 2:00 AM CDT reply actions
Having Vince was like having special effects on our team
I’ve been a fan since DKR’s first season. I’ve seen all our greatest players and teams and lived through all the highs and lows. I’ve watched all the modern greats. Namath, Hershel, Earl, Plunket, Elway, Ricky, Tony D., I even saw Bobby Layne play in the pros. Vince is the only player I ever seen that actually defied logic.
by ole tnhorn on Jul 20, 2025 8:02 AM CDT reply actions
Watching Vince's reaction when
he was robbed of the Heisman was when I knew we would win the National Title. Never have I seen someone become so determined to prove something in less than 3 seconds. I don’t think any player in college ever had such an impact in 2 years.
And fuck Jeff Fisher.
A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...
by bevosteve67 on Jul 20, 2025 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Heisman is only for football players
You need something more for a true force of nature. Best ever, and best when it counted.
by bullzak on Jul 20, 2025 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
The Vince Young Trophy
Given to the most transcendent college player of the year, provided there is one. No trophy awarded if no one meets the standard.
by LifetimeLonghorn on Jul 20, 2025 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
i think this would be reasonable. the pose could be his body position as he crossed the goal line on his final offensive play as a collegiate athlete.
i like the criteria for this too, and the possibility of not awarding it to someone who isnt other-worldly.
If You See Kay, Oh You
by texfan23 on Jul 20, 2025 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Better yet, it could be a variant of the Heisman trophy..
Reggie Bush with the Heisman pose, one hand trying to push off Vince Young, who is riding him from behind.
by Fried Rice on Jul 20, 2025 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Problem is, if the media were allowed to give it out
It would have gone to Tebow
by Horncasting on Jul 20, 2025 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
In nearly 40 years of watching football
I don’t recall a college or pro player that succeeded in crucial moments and influenced so many big games the way he did. His failures were few and his success was off the charts.
by Texoz on Jul 20, 2025 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
I watched every game BOTH teams played.
There isn’t an argument for Bush, there’s just not.
Nor do I understand why Bush cheating meant that the Heisman trust had to pretend that the entire season didn’t happen. Chicken**** IMHO.
by TexanNick on Jul 20, 2025 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
In any other year Bush wins easily.
He had a great year, just not better than Vince’s year. The problem was that the rest of the country wasn’t paying attention to Texas until too late. Not east coast, not west coast, not paying attention. Obviously, if Heisman voting had occurred after the Rose Bowl, Vince wins going away. And yes, it was definitely chicken**** by the Heisman trust.
by Noonan100 on Jul 21, 2025 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
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