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2012 Preseason All-Big 12 Selections

Carrington gets no respect.

I'd rather watch the homeless guy who panhandles outside of Walgreen's defecate in a bag and use it to threaten seagulls then have to endure the collective wisdom of sportswriters making their preseason selections; informing their opinion by running a finger across a 2011 statistics crib sheet labeled RETURNING STARTERS, and then trying to remember who someone once told them was good while critiquing the craft service table in Ames.

But it's mid-July, and y'all are going to endure this with me. So take it like men and women and start an anticipatory drip from your outrage gland. Actually, don't. I've seen much worse.

Star-divide

OFFENSE
Pos Name School Ht Wt Cl/Exp Hometown
WR Kenny Stills # Oklahoma 6-1 189 Jr/2L Encinitas, Calif.
TE Jordan Najvar Baylor 6-6 260 Jr/1L Spring, Texas
OL Gabe Ikard * Oklahoma 6-4 295 Jr/2L Oklahoma City, Okla.
OL Cyril Richardson Baylor 6-5 335 Jr/2L Fort Worth, Texas
C Ben Habern^ Oklahoma 6-4 292 Sr/3L Argyle, Texas
OL LaAdrian Waddle # Texas Tech 6-6 318 Sr/3L Columbus, Texas
OL Lane Taylor Oklahoma State 6-3 328 Sr/3L Arlington, Texas
WR Tavon Austin West Virginia 5-9 174 Sr/3L Baltimore, Md.
QB Geno Smith West Virginia 6-3 214 Sr/3L Miami, Fla.
RB Joseph Randle # Oklahoma State 6-1 200 Jr/2L Wichita, Kan.
RB Malcolm Brown Texas 6-0 213 So/1L Cibolo, Texas
PK Quinn Sharp * Oklahoma State 6-1 205 Sr/3L Mansfield, Texas
KR Tyler Lockett # Kansas State 5-11 175 So/1L Tulsa, Okla.

Damn. I can only offer minimal outrage on offense and most of their mistakes are differences of opinion instead of outright attacks on the very fabric of human rationality. Those come later on Defense.

QB - You have performed well, journalist-monkeys. Correct.

WR - This is a deep, competitive field. Should have gone three WRs. WVU's Stedman Bailey is a more dynamic threat than teammate Tavon Austin, though I appreciate Austin's Welkerian skill set. Kenny Stills should certainly have the stats based on sheer volume, but TCU, Baylor, Tech, and OSU will all have comparable arguments for their respective dudes and Stills didn't light it up sans Broyles. My long shot dark horses to join one of WVU's guys: OSU's Tracy Moore, and either Texas Tech's Eric Ward or Darrin Moore. Just a hunch.

RB - Brown and Randle are defensible, but I doubt this pairing is there at season's end. Tech's Eric Stephens should have a big year, OU's Whaley is healthy again, and Brown's Longhorn teammates could supplant him. It's not polite to point it out, but OSU's Jeremy Smith was more productive than Randle on a per carry basis (646 yards, 9 TDs, 7.1 yards per carry). Texas fans - you should remember his 140 yard on 7 carries.

OL - TCU's Blaise Foltz probably belongs up there. Ben Habern is there more from familiarity than clear superiority over Baylor's Ivory Wade and WVU's Joe Madsen, but whatever. Hopkins has a decent shot at being there, but needs to prove it.

DEFENSE
Pos Name School Ht Wt Cl/Exp Hometown
DL Jackson Jeffcoat # Texas 6-5 250 Jr/2L Plano, Texas
DL Stansly Maponga TCU 6-2 265 Jr/2L Carrollton, Texas
DL Alex Okafor * Texas 6-4 260 Sr/3L Pflugerville, Texas
DL Jamarkus McFarland Oklahoma 6-2 296 Sr/3L Lufkin, Texas
LB Arthur Brown * Kansas State 6-1 228 Sr/3L Wichita, Kan.
LB A.J. Klein * Iowa State 6-2 244 Sr/3L Kimberly, Wis.
LB Jake Knott ^# Iowa State 6-3 239 Sr/3L Waukee, Iowa
DB Brodrick Brown * Oklahoma State 5-8 185 Sr/3L Houston, Texas
DB Kenny Vaccaro * Texas 6-1 215 Sr/3L Brownwood, Texas
DB Tony Jefferson Oklahoma 5-10 199 Jr/2L Chula Vista, Calif.
DB Nigel Malone * Kansas State 5-10 185 Sr/3L Manteca, Calif.
P Quinn Sharp ^* Oklahoma State 6-1 205 Sr/3L Mansfield, Texas
PR Tavon Austin West Virginia 5-9 174 Sr/3L Baltimore, Md.

DL - Jamarkus McFarland is a fun commentary on the league's DT play and the power of even negative familiarity. I guess he's capable of a big year, but no more than UT's Ashton Dorsey, TCU's David Johnson, or, for that matter his own OU DT teammates. Select four DEs, if you must. But don't blindly check a familiar name on the ballot.

LB - Cool. Though there are other correct answers here.

DB - Cue the sounds of Yakety Sax. Nigel Malone led the league in interceptions. Ergo, Nigel Malone must be the best cornerback in the league! Try this though: watch the games and observe KSU's pass defense. Nigel Malone is not a bad cornerback, in fact he's pretty good from a high risk/high reward perspective, but here are four better ones: Justin Gilbert, Carrington Byndom, Demontre Hurst, Quandre Diggs. When I tell you that you can have any Charlie's Angel, don't pick Kate Jackson. You know who doesn't get lots of interceptions? Champ Bailey. And Deion. And Revis. Try to guess why.

Which Tony Jefferson are we selecting at safety? The big play maker and disruptor or the guy who can't cover anyone?

DPOY - Alex Okafor

I guess as valid a choice as any. I'm not sure he's the best player on our defense. Would you select him over Vaccaro, Byndom, 2nd half of season Jeffcoat in a draft format?

OPOY - Geno Smith

I'm OK with it.

Newcomer of the Year - Trey Metoyer

The logic is straightforward: he's going to start, he looks good, OU is going to throw a lot, there aren't that many other candidates. Wes Lunt should win in a landslide if he's even solid, though.

OK, I've seen worse. Where did they get it wrong? Where did I get it wrong?

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No love for Shipley?

Ok, he doesn’t have the receiving stats of the others on account of our flaccid offense, but I bet he’s got more TD passes than anyone on that list!

by notsofst on Jul 18, 2025 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

As Scipio points out they only named two receivers

and there are multiple guys who could lay claim to a spot. I don’t think you will see the TD catches from Shipley as the two named or same Stills or Sampson at Baylor simply because Texas isn’t going to air it out like them this year.

At this point Jaxon and the other Texas receivers are similar to the old USSR ICBM arsenal. You know the threat is there in the potential damage, but no one is sure about the reliability of the delivery system.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

TD Passes

The man said TD passes, amigo. Shipley will likely throw more of those than all the other guys combined. Has All Big 12 Hybrid written all over him, but he pundits won’t move into the new century and recognize that as a legit position.

FREE HYBRID SHIPLEY!!! No justice, no peace.

by RomaVicta on Jul 19, 2025 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Geno Smith is Better Despite Lower Completion %

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Jul 19, 2025 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

total homer call

but I have a feeling Philips may sneak out to that list. We all know he can play, but he is a playmaker. Dont be surprised if he gets the turnovers to attract media attention.

by codaxx on Jul 18, 2025 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I endorse that call

And almost wrote it. Wouldn’t be shocked if he led us in INTs. I want to know how his rehab went though. Haven’t heard anything.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 18, 2025 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love Philips, but I think he is a guy who ends up as Nickel and Scipio have

pointed out before being used in multiple spots which makes him an invaluable asset to Manny. Unfortunately that sometimes means you get overlooked on these teams because the voters think in concrete terms.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

very true

it is long shot. I just think he is the best play maker in the secondary. Just seemed to be around the ball when he played. I tend to think voters see INTs, Sacks, and fumble recoveries far more than position. You can see that as many in the media have Diggs over BYndom. That is based purely on INT numbers.

by codaxx on Jul 18, 2025 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt about Philips.

He is a guy whose position is simply defensive back and I can see him being one of those guys who goes on and has a good NFL career because of the versatility combined with the size and physical ability.

I love the idea of the kid as a pure safety, but do agree with Scipio that playing him as a nickel really gives Manny big flexibility in run support and blitzing.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

but

he will most likely play Safety in base and flip to Nickle. That is not a big disadvantage. He will be a fixture in the secondary

by codaxx on Jul 18, 2025 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great point and you know he is going to see time as most offenses in the

Big 12 are going to use multiple receiver looks. Hell, I don’t even know if TCU has a full back.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

the thing about guys like that

who have value for their teams in several hard to define roles, is that if they score some TD’s on special teams or INT’s (and especially if it’s in a big game) all of a sudden everyone notices the other million things they do.
Like, Tyrann Mathieu. If he hadn’t scored so many TD’s and forced so many fumbles no one would care that he played as a roving nickel and man corner at 175.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 18, 2025 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love Phillips.

Man, our secondary is going to be so filthy. I can’t wait.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 19, 2025 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Love Phillips.

Man, our secondary is going to be so filthy. I can’t wait.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 19, 2025 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Love Phillips.

Man, our secondary is going to be so filthy. I can’t wait.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 19, 2025 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Love Phillips.

Man, our secondary is going to be so filthy. I can’t wait.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 19, 2025 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s how excited I am.

Jesus, I gotta stop posting from my iPhone

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 19, 2025 8:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

New Comer of the Yr

Is not Metoyer. It is Gray, nope,,, It is M Brown at DT. This is the best 2011 recruit. I think he will be a force by season end.. Though media will be to stupid to realize it and it will go to a stat stuffer

by codaxx on Jul 18, 2025 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm fine with that

and agree about M Brown. Him flying under media scrutiny is fine in my book. But he’ll be nowhere near the BMFer he’s going to be his soph season with more experience and time in the weight room.

by mdhorn on Jul 18, 2025 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with Metoyer getting multiple touches and that most

likely will produce bigger numbers which seems to win votes on these teams. Gray biggest problem will be the number of touches which in the long run will be a good thing for his career, but I don’t see him nearing Ced’s freshman workload.

Same for MB at defensive tackle for Texas. Great prospect who I think will be a great player, but does he end up starting? If the answer is yes I definitely seeing him making a big impression. No? Then it depends upon the situations Manny uses him for the Horns.

Otherwise you end up with that freshman who plays a great deal on defense which isn’t always a great situation (ie.AJ Hilliard for TCU at linebacker) and don’t dismiss the JUCO/Transfer influence at TT, KSU, and KU off the top of my head.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't Stills lose his scholarship?

Or was indefinitely suspended? That could slow things down for him… Or am I thinking of someone else? Or did his recent Twitter dress pic totally scramble my wits?

by canuckhorn on Jul 18, 2025 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Stills is back, but Reynolds,Franks, and I believe one other lost their scholarships.

What is interesting is that if you look at the OU media guide on-line for 2012 it lists Franks and Reynolds as starters lost for this year.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaz Reynolds and Trey Franks had their schollies pulled

Kameel Jackson was the third WR “indefinitely suspended” but he’s still on scholarship (though he wasn’t included in their most recent roster release).

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by Jordan Esco on Jul 19, 2025 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The recognition for McFarland just shows how a player can thrive when able to find the right environment . . . one where girls aren’t distracting you by sexing each other all the time.

by Cirque Du Salado on Jul 18, 2025 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Romancing.

Was key phraseology.

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 19, 2025 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I expected to see

obscene OU love, like other years, but I guess the media is finally souring on them a little after the bitch-slapping OSU gave them.

That makes it painful to say that I think, like Phillips, Aaron Colvin is probably one of the best DB’s in the conference and probably better than Malone and maybe Brown and Jefferson as well.

Scipio, any game in particular that soured you on Jefferson’s coverage? I only have snapshots in my mind of him blanketing Shipley and scoring 3 picks in 1 game against some hapless pre-conference patsy.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 18, 2025 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Jefferson

Jefferson is going to be interesting to watch this year. As it stands now, he’s probably going to be playing pretty much exclusively at free safety, and Mike Stoops has had a lot of success with those guys in the past at OU. Personally, I think he’s in for a big year and it’s a good move for him in terms of where he’ll be playing in the NFL, but he has made so many plays the last couple years when he has been playing closer to the line of scrimmage.

Other thoughts:
-McFarland on the first team is a statement about how bad the Big 12 DTs are. Man.
-Byndom must have kicked somebody’s dog or something. Guy is severely underrated by the punditry.
-Stills tailed off badly last year. Don’t know how you can have him on there ahead of Steadman Bailey.
-Not having a spot for Trey Millard on the first team is silliness.
-Habern is a nice “glue guy,” but a first-teamer he is not.

by Blatant Homerism on Jul 19, 2025 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Drew Kelson noted here

that if you are a really fast linebacker, stay there, don’t go back to safety where everyone is fast. He would know…

Jefferson does look a lot like Quinton Carter though. I think in the role that whathisname…you’re terrible safety from last year….that guy, I think if Jefferson plays that role he can be good. Not the cover safety, but the one that plays deep, hawks the ball, and gets to come downhill against the run. I’m sure that’s what you’ll do.

Agreed on Trey Millard. With Byndom I think Scipio nailed it, Brown and Malone had tons of INT’s. Pundits look at numbers. They don’t see RGIII avoiding Byndom for an entire game.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 19, 2025 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Javon Harris is the "terrible safety from last year" you're referring to

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by Jordan Esco on Jul 19, 2025 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's him.

I understand he played the cover safety position in the spring. For that reason, I think Colvin stays at safety when he returns.
I don’t believe Stoops for one second when he says Harris is actually a good player.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 19, 2025 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
“-Byndom must have kicked somebody’s dog or something. Guy is severely underrated by the punditry.”

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 19, 2025 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Tavon Austin hadn't moved into the conference

I’d argue that Diggs cold be the pick at PR. Really liked what I saw from him last year.

by Horncasting on Jul 18, 2025 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean where he beat Reggie Bush’s Heisman Year Punt and Kick return averages? Yeah, he we pretty good. Don’t know if that is a major accomplishment though, just got into an argument with someone about Reggie’s impact on special teams, and it “not” being "special.

"Most of my clichés aren't original." -Chuck Knox

by Dustin Brockelman on Jul 19, 2025 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darkhorse for newcomer

Keep an eye out for TCU’s LaDarius Brown at wide receiver. Big receiver who’s got serious hops.

by Philly Frog on Jul 19, 2025 8:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Absolutely

Big time athlete. But he won’t be 1st Team All Big 12.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 19, 2025 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Newcomer, yes.

Should be in the conversation for all-conference by his sophomore. It’s really ungodly how much talent this conference has at the skill spots.

by Philly Frog on Jul 19, 2025 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

How will this All-Conference Defense get in the right pre-snap alignments? WHO WILL LINE UP THE DEFENSE?!

by tronaldinho on Jul 19, 2025 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Team is getting rubber bracelets made

Printed with “WWGD” (What would Gideon do).

by Horncasting on Jul 19, 2025 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tracy Moore

didn’t he do something like 8 catches for 200 yards or something in their spring game? Is that why he’s the pick?

Seems like the next initiate in the OK St. line of dominant downfield receivers.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 19, 2025 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Newcomer of the year isn't J. Gray?

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on Jul 19, 2025 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

If he hits 450 yards, no....

If he hits 650 yards, 8 tds and 8ypc… yes.

But he did say in an interview that his personal goal was freshman of the year.

"Most of my clichés aren't original." -Chuck Knox

by Dustin Brockelman on Jul 19, 2025 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn phone!

Byndom is by far this years Rodney dangerfield (yes I realize he probably has no idea who that is) kid locked down the best WRs in the league last year and no one noticed apparently.

Darkhorn candidate for new comer of the year, Cayleb Jones, kid has the size/hands/leaping ability to be a major target in redzone. Something we havent had in sometime (Finley) if we can get the ball down there, everyone looking run should leave quite a few 1on1s on the outside.. Don’t see him breaking many WR screens for 50-60 yards but luckily GDGD isn’t here any longer.

by Sweedish Nightmare on Jul 19, 2025 1:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

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Cause, Dayyuumm, you got some aggressive homeless folks in Frisco!

AKA: dasmithjones

by Your "Friend" in the State Capital on Jul 19, 2025 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  


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