VY couldn't beat out these guys?
by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 1:40 PM CDT
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I know it is early but the NFL is pathetic. I can’t believe they keep trotting out this "he fits the mold" crap. Then there is Cleveland. Good job guys.
I’m sure Luck, Locker, and some of the other young guys are going to be excellent someday. But it is rare that any first year QB is going to come in and be a good player. VY is definitely a better player than these guys are now, and being a Houston fan and Longhorn fan I appreciate letting a young guy get a year or two of work instead of risk ruining them by throwing them in the fire to learn (Carr; Gilbert).
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C/ATT |
YDS |
AVG |
TD |
INT |
RAT. |
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15/20 |
126 |
6.3 |
0 |
1 |
70.0 |
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6/12 |
78 |
6.5 |
0 |
1 |
36.1 |
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6/16 |
48 |
3.0 |
0 |
2 |
6.3 |
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17/24 |
172 |
7.2 |
0 |
3 |
51.4 |
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7/11 |
78 |
7.1 |
0 |
0 |
84.7 |
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7/12 |
80 |
6.7 |
0 |
2 |
38.9 |
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9/18 |
114 |
6.3 |
0 |
3 |
30.6 |
Like I said, I know it is early and game 1s aren’t even done yet. But there is a lot of suck at the NFL QB position right now. I’m sure at least one of Luck and Locker will get there eventually. Tannehill, Fitzpatrick, and Ponder make me laugh and simultaneously shake my head. I like Weeden, but the Browns didn’t need an AARP eligible first year QB.
I hate the NFL.
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Edit: Here's how that cast of all star above finished, plus a few others thrown in for good measure.
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C/ATT |
YDS |
AVG |
TD |
INT |
SACKS |
RTG |
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23/45 |
309 |
6.9 |
1 |
3 |
3-16 |
52.9 |
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12/35 |
118 |
3.4 |
0 |
4 |
2-7 |
5.1 |
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32/48 |
355 |
7.4 |
1 |
3 |
1-9 |
69.4 |
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23/32 |
229 |
7.2 |
1 |
1 |
2-8 |
89.2 |
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6/11 |
43 |
3.9 |
0 |
0 |
0-0 |
63.8 |
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18/32 |
195 |
6.1 |
3 |
3 |
0-0 |
66.5 |
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20/36 |
219 |
6.1 |
0 |
3 |
3-23 |
39.0 |
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29/56 |
317 |
5.7 |
2 |
4 |
2-11 |
51.0 |
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21/33 |
258 |
7.8 |
1 |
2 |
3-17 |
72.5 |
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20/27 |
270 |
10.0 |
0 |
0 |
2-4 |
105.5 |
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For some reason I can’t seem to enter things the visual mode. It won’t let me type or paste in the text box. That was supposed to come out with a table. I thought i could post and then edit, but that didn’t work either.
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by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 1:41 PM CDT reply actions
Let it go.
There is a reason that VY is not in the league and I just don’t buy the argument that it isn’t because he won’t fit into teams box in terms of a quarterback.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
Let it go.
He wins 64% of his starts.
by Young Williams on Sep 9, 2025 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I generally like what you write, but in this case, kindly get the fuck out. Every QB has his ups and downs on the field, and VY has had his. But in general his play was abover average to very good.
by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Have you people ever freaking thought the issues might not be on the field?
Jesus Christ people, if he is the lock to win like you keep “proving” with the numbers why the fuck do you think he can’t get a job in the NFL.
I am watching Randy MFinnng Moss just score a touchdown for the Forty Niners and for as big an asshole, as big a cancer as the guy is, the 49er’s give him a gig and Vince isn’t on a roster.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I think we have. In fact, i’d say we’ve probably thought about at LEAST as much as you. Now kindly go worry about which players the Horned Frogs are going to lose next to a drug bust or Cartel payback for stealing business.
by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop acting like a spoiled child for goodness sakes.
Andy Reid brought Mike Vick in after how much time in Federal Prison and turned the guys career around. He is a better quarterback now than he ever was in Atlanta and yet the Eagles cut Vince.
Why was that? They weren’t going to need a back-up quarterback? Hardly because they know as much as anyone Vick is going to get hurt so why did they let Vince go? Why could Reid get through to Vick, but not Vince?
Chan Gaily is considered a very quarterback friendly coach and once again they let Vince go and yet all you can do is throw sophomoric insults.
Vince was an incredible college player and his pro career started well. What happened after that is anyone’s guess, but it all isn’t at the feet of Fisher, Norm Chow, or the NFL.
Love the drug reference since we know that TCU is the only place that happens. Oh wait, we are the only ones dumb enough to hold a press conference over the confiscation of less than 5 lbs of pot.
You won’t find me anywhere defending the four as they got what they deserved. Fucked up bad. That isn’t what you want to hear so I will leave you to your tantrums,.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
There are no trantrums here, just simple stats for todays starting QBS,
and you come in with some bullshit line saying “get over yourselves.” You added no substance.
Then you pointed out that the NFL has given a number of assholes 2nd, 3rd, and 11th chances, but again, you didn’t add anything to this argument other than to say “well, if moss is still playing then VY must suck.”. The stats prove that VY is better QB than at least 10 of the starting QBs, and probably closer to 15-18. His stats definitely point out that he is better than every back up.
You can ignore that facts, but please go some where else to do it.
by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, I forgot to add that i loved this part. Good job taking a stace and sticking with it
You won’t find me anywhere defending the four as they got what they deserved.
Love the drug reference since we know that TCU is the only place that happens.
by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
So why do you believe that VY is presently out of the league?
by srr50 on Sep 9, 2025 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He's out of the league
Because he sucks as a backup and no NFL coach has the vision, balls or patience to invest their job safety on him as their starter.
Which is a mistake, as he’s a better starter than at least 10 guys who started today.
by Young Williams on Sep 9, 2025 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I think Vince is used to being the man. When he’s given minimal practice reps and on a short leash for what little playing time he’s given, I think it gets to him.
If someone gave him a starting job and assured him one mistake wouldn’t put him on the bench, he’d likely find a comfort zone. I, too, am skeptical anyone will stick their neck out for him though.
To continue in the NFL he might have to see a sports shrink and talk to some older guys (Rodney Peete, Jon Kitna, and Charlie Batch, for example) about how to approach being a back-up QB.
The teams with weak starters are likely going with one of their recent high draft picks or hoping to acquire some in the next draft. I thought Skelton looked like the QB on Arizona’s roster with the most upside a couple of years ago, but I don’t think he’s going to be an All-Pro this season. Maybe they’re just hoping to land Barkley. Rod can’t miss on two USC quarterbacks, can he?
by Saul! on Sep 9, 2025 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
The NFL is the most patriarchal institution left in America, and Vince told daddy to kindly go F himself gently in front of the whole family.
And you don’t do that in the NFL and get away with it.
In hindsight, skipping his senior year and an almost certain Heisman and MNC to go to that terrible situation in Tennessee was a crucial mistake.
by Young Williams on Sep 9, 2025 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think VY has put in the time and effort required to make himself a good NFL QB?
by Horncasting on Sep 9, 2025 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
His onfield performance as a starter indicates as much.
by Young Williams on Sep 9, 2025 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
If Vince had of played his senior year he would’ve been the greatest college player of all time, not that he already isn’t top 5.
In VYs defense he did win offensive rookie of the year and went to two pro bowls in Tennessee. But the way he left really makes me dislike that organization and hope for their failure.
by HookemSpurs on Sep 9, 2025 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Davey nailed it.
You really are acting like a spoled child. Go do something else for awhile.
by FringeHorn on Sep 9, 2025 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Curious, where you holding your breathe and stomping your feet while you
typed that profound response.
I am not as smart as you since I didn’t get a degree from UT, but I will try my best.
The numbers you posted do not prove Vince is a better quarterback this year simply because Vince has no number. I am no Huck, but I do think in order to compare numbers you must have a set of numbers for all parties in the comparision.
Using your logic, all those quarterbacks are better than Vince because they threw for more yards today. All your numbers do is show there has been some really bad quarterback play today and you were the one who ran with those numbers and made the deduction providing no tangible data simply because he isn’t playing today.
Maybe there is a conspriacy to screw VY after what happened in Tennessee, maybe the Black Crusaders are after him after the shirtless picture got out from that party, and maybe just maybe there is something you won’t find in the numbers that explains why VY is not in the NFL.
What I do know from friends who have and are working in the NFL that of all positions on the field if the staff doesn’t trust you then you are going to have a short career. Do I know that is what happened with Vince?
No and I don’t think anyone here can truly say what happened for VY. All we have is a series of events that lead us to conjecture.
Lavender pointed to the 64% win percentage in VY’s defense and in all honesty that is the only stat that truly matters. To me however, that reads more like a reason for a redflag than a reason why he should be in the NFL. If he is a guy that wins almost 2 out of every 3 games why is he being treated like a pariah by the other 29 teams?
A good friend who is a recruiter and writes for the career section of the Chronicle has a line they say over and over again to people in a job search. At some point and time it has to stop being your last boss’ fault.
The problems with FIsher and Chow are now two teams removed. Even David Carr has been able to get past the disaster in Houston to hold a clipboard in for the Giants and his poor work ethic was legendary with the Texans. So how is it he can stick and not VY? I can’t give you numbers, can’t give you stats, how given you multiple examples of bad character guys who can still play and get chances and VY is not on a roster.
Guess I am too poorly equiped with my TCU degree to see things they way they truly are, but the career of an NFL coach is pretty much solely dependent upon winning and it speaks volumes that 29 men haven’t picked up the phone if they truly felt VY could keep them in their jobs.
Finally, I realize that this is a hot button issue for many UT fans and alums so the emotion is to be expected. I truly feel sorry for you however if you truly can not infer the difference when I state I won’t defend the four TCU players kicked off the team as you flippled posiitions of the statements and don’t out the comment I made about the four fucking up.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
For someone who likes to accuse other people acting childish, you do a wonderful job of throwing around your own insults.
Guess I am too poorly equiped with my TCU degree to see things they way they truly are
Seriously? No one ever insulted your education. Quit acting insecure.
You got the response you deserved from your first contribution to this thread. VYs stats in his last year in Tenn when he supposedly lost it on and off the field were good. I know this isn’t going to format right, so sorry in advance.
SEASON TEAM GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
2010 TEN 9 93 156 59.6 1,255 8.05 10 71 3 3 70.6 98.6
He was actually having one of his best years.
No, I don’t believe the whole blame falls on the leauge or his coaches. Based on everything I’ve read, he definitely neaded to put more time in film room. I think he did start doing that. If he was such a bad teammate and didn’t put in the work though, why didn’t we keep hearing about it when he went to Phily? Or the bills? Could it be that it was over blown just a little?
but the career of an NFL coach is pretty much solely dependent upon winning
Sorry, that’s just not true. If you are a mediocre coach, you eventually get fired, and then get hired on as an OC or DC. Maybe you go work for ESPN or “consult.” Then some team forgets how bad you were and hires you, or at least that is what it seems like. How else does Jeff Fischer, who coached Tenn to 2 top 5 picks get another head choaching shot?
As for Phily, I never read anything negative about VY there. They have Vick, they don’t need another injury prone QB (at least the last 2 seasons) to back him up. I don’t believe I’ve seen anything about of buffalo either. I think the biggest thing there was the guy they just signed to a huge contract, and you don’t want a back up QB who has a history of not putting in the time, even if it appears that has changed.
by UT_BKC on Sep 9, 2025 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
CHILDREN
IF YOU DON’T STOP RIGHT NOW I’M PULLING THIS CAR OVER
by Dagga Roosta on Sep 9, 2025 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, here's something more constructive
You’re both right.
Vince got screwed by the warring egos of Bud Adams and Jeff Fisher. No doubt. Given a looser rein, he might’ve kept winning, and while Vince acted out a couple of times for those of us who’d been watching closely it was somewhat understandable. Longhorn fans are almost all VInce Young fans too, and we’re rightfully bitter about how the Titans situation panned out.
But Vince also made a ton of mistakes along the way, and NFL GMs don’t like to take risks with veteran acquisitions for starting roles. Plus, Vince has straight-up sucked in his few appearances as a backup these last couple years. I don’t know what his level of dedication has been. He’s made over 40 million bucks already, and he’s invested at least some of that money wisely, so I don’t know if the motivation is what it used to be. But regardless, this is the league of second chances. But to get a second chance he’s got to make those handful of opportunities count, the way Michael Vick did, and he hasn’t. End of story.
by Dagga Roosta on Sep 9, 2025 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty much agree with you on this Dagga,
Fisher effectively sabotaged Vince from the very beginning in Tennessee: the reputed “suicide” scare in Vince’s second year was an invention of Fisher’s, the repeated, inexplicable benchings of Vince by Fisher, etc. etc.
Vince however, did himself no favors by over-reacting to this treatment, and the rumors of his lack of work ethic haven’t helped either. The NFL is a highly incestuous and gossipy fraternity; especially in the front office and coaching trees, and when word from one of their own (even if Fisher is a scumbag) says that Vince can’t be trusted it makes it that much harder for Vince to prove the naysayers wrong. Add in the fact that his last two starts as a back-up were not up to Vince’s standards and you see how he’s not in the league after 5 years.
Moving forward, Vince will probably have to kill it in the CFL before he gets another chance in the NFL, a la Warren Moon or Doug Flutie. Or wait until some one’s QB gets hurt or benched (AZ ?) and then play the best game or games of his career. Either way it will be a long slog, and I hope that he does find success sooner rather than later.
A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...
by bevosteve67 on Sep 10, 2025 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I know this is blasphemy, but I agree with Davey.
by The General on Sep 9, 2025 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The rumors around the league
were that Vince was never 100% invested in off the field work. Guys like Manning, Brady, Rodgers do nothing but watch film and work endlessly between games to prepare. VY would do the work one week, but not the next. Caveat: I have no idea how true that was, it’s just rumors.
I would like to add that Fisher is a shitty coach and an offensive midget. He got a ferrari when all he knows how to drive is a yugo. Just look at Sam Bradford’s stats: 195 yards 1 TD. Very Vince-like, if you ask me.
by DogTown on Sep 9, 2025 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Quitter
Giving up on Vince Young is sacrilege. Somebody strip him of his burnt orange and stone him.
by Major Cult on Sep 9, 2025 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Weeden is horrible
Great thinking by the Browns to draft this clown and bench Colt
by ransomstoddard on Sep 9, 2025 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
It's all Colt's fault. If it wasn't for him, why, the Browns would be in the Superbowl last year!
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
by iamjackburton on Sep 9, 2025 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know?
Do fumbles affect the QB rating?
On top of four picks, Weedon put it on the ground three times. That is truly pitiful.
by BurntOrangeAtlanta on Sep 9, 2025 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
The Browns front office is about as bad as it gets. Colt was put in a meat grinder....
And now Weeden (they are calling him Wee Done now) is in the same grinder. Their line and receivers are galactically horrible and did they try to improve this with the draft…..A third round QB at Best(Weeden) and a bum knee RB Trent Richardson were their first rounders.
I just hope Weeden can stay in long enough, so that Colt isn’t thrown to the wolves again. The calls for Colt are starting up again.
Just a bad, bad situation for Colt.
Karl..... Schiefen sie die fenster......SHOOT the GLASS
by MeatchickenHorn on Sep 9, 2025 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
Really wish Colt had gotten out of Clevland
And landed somewhere where he could sit and backup a good veteran. New Orleans maybe?
by Horncasting on Sep 9, 2025 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Colt's mobility and ability with the play fakes
would work well in the Texan’s system. Unfortunately, Kubiak is infamous for glomming onto guys who for some reason he finds appealing and he won’t get rid of them until the damage is done.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
When, not if, Weeden goes down to injury, or
is benched for piss-poor play (my prediction is by game 6), Colt will be ready to play and will win a fair share of games for that piece of shit franchise. If the new owner keeps the Holmgren, Heckert, and Schurmer fart trust then even if Colt takes the Browns to the playoffs they would still name Weeden as the starter – or try to draft USC’s Barkley if they don’t.
If the owner fires that bunch of front office ass-clowns and names Dick Jauron the Head Coach, there’s a good probability that Colt wins back the starting job and gets signed to a good deal. Bottom line, Colt has no opportunity in Cleveland if Holmgren and Co are still calling the shots by season’s end.
This is Colt’s last year on contract with the Browns, and if the new owner keeps the old regime in place then he should play lights out when he gets the opportunity so his free agent stock rises up – and then he’ll never have to play in Cleveland again, except for away games.
A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...
by bevosteve67 on Sep 10, 2025 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
RGIII
Hail to the Redskins,
Hail Victory,
Braves on the Warpath,
Fight for Old DC!
by VirginiaLonghorn on Sep 9, 2025 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
He got my vote for Rookie of the Year just based on today.
Note: I don’t have a vote for Rookie of the Year.
by lurkerinthedark on Sep 9, 2025 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Vince's career
NFL head coaches are nothing if not pragmatic. They will start a serial killer war criminal if it will help them win games and get to the playoffs. Short of putting bounties on opposing teams’ players, NFL head coaches don’t think about anything but winning…that’s what puts supper on the table and keeps those coaches gainfully employed at yearly salaries the rest of us can only dream about.
Vince was a transcendent college quarterback, largely because Greg Davis got out of his way and “let Vince be Vince”. Vince had, maybe still has, mad physical talent and will to win. He looked pretty good his first year in Nashville, but it was pretty obvious that things weren’t right up there. I agree with the poster above who says nobody but maybe Vince knows exactly what went wrong. That something went wrong is obvious.
It’s also obvious that none of those NFL coaches are willing to put their job on the line to prove that Vince still has the skills and will. Maybe he could invest a couple of years in the Canadian Football League, which I think would be a lot more “Vince-friendly” and work his way back to the NFL. Maybe he could take a year off and get with Bennie Wylie…and work himself back into game shape and get another shot. Who knows if either of those options would work, but right now, whether or not Vince is better than half of the starters in the NFL, it looks like he won’t get the chance to prove it.
"Where is the church? Who took the steeple? Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people!" (The gospel according to Jimmy Buffett)
by coolhorn on Sep 9, 2025 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bennie Wylie has done wonders
for Earl and the team in one offseason. I would love to hear that Vince is working with him. Mack made a lot of fantastic hires in Dec 2010.
A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...
by bevosteve67 on Sep 10, 2025 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
dammit, I mean two
offseasons w/ the team, one w/ Earl. Either way, Wylie was a super hire.
A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...
by bevosteve67 on Sep 10, 2025 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
A little bit of an overreaction, no?
This hurts to say because VY is the best collegiate player I’ve seen in my lifetime. The reason vince young is not on a team, especially not starting, is simply because he is not a good qb. He had potential and a few good seasons, but look up his stats from last year. He sucked out loud on a team with a ton of offensive weapons and a creative offensive-minded coach. This is not even taking into account his off-the-field issues.
Also, where did you get your list of qbs from? Stafford and Fitzpatrick have been in the league for years. You selectively left out RG3. Maybe it’s just a list of crappy qbs, in which case, I agree that most of those guys suck (though Stafford is pretty damn good, today excepted).
by Throckmorton on Sep 9, 2025 7:12 PM CDT reply actions
sucked out loud?
In 3 games he: 1) beat the super bowl champions, with a come from behind 4th quarter drive of the year; 2) threw for 400 yards and made basically no mistakes in losing to NE and 3) played really bad against Seatle.
That’s more success in 3 games where you maintain he was terrible than tannehill, gabbert, kolb and at least a half dozen other starters will ever have.
Sucked out loud? Nah- you got that wrong.
I personally think whoever said he isn’t a backup and doesn’t have the right mindset is right, and nobody else wants to give him a starting job.
I alternate between laughing and crying when I think of VY’s nfl career.
RG3 is going to own DC- I am so jealous for VY’s sake about how he is being handed a great situation. Great start to his career.
by Wulaw Horn on Sep 9, 2025 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure what happened in Philly, but after the great game against NE
he fell off a cliff in Seattle. There is the Eastern team traveling three time zones thing, but something went seriously wrong in Philly.
As far as Buffalo he just never really caught his stride in pre-season and that is just not something you can do if you are trying to win a job.
You make a great point Wu in the question about what might have happened have been and there is a part of me that thinks it isn’t any fun to him anymore.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Not true about VY in Buffalo
After the 3 preseason game, he was in the lead for the back up job. Gailey had nothing but positive things to say.
He then has a subpar 4th game. He not only is demoted but is cut and replaced with Tavaris Jackson (= Quincy Carter). I can agree with both sides. I think VY is as good as a lot of these QBs. But I also know something happened around the 4th preseason game which didn’t occur on the field that got him cut.
Still think he can be successful but something wrong. And I’ll never let it go.
by Monahorns on Sep 9, 2025 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Through the first three pre-season games he had completed less than
fifty percent of his attempts, had no touchdowns, two interceptions, and a quarterback rating of less than fifty. Thigpen had a higher completion percentage, higher rating, did throw one more interception, but had two touchdowns.
Maybe the Bills didn’t want to eat the guaranteed money on Thigpen’s contract, maybe Gailey said what he did to motivate Thigpen, who knows, but what I know is for some reason they cut Vince, kept Thigpen, and used a 7th round pick to get Tarvaris Jackson.
by davey o'brien on Sep 9, 2025 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, who knows
His no TD stat is misleading. His 2 INTs were in the last game. Read this article and the game before VY is cut, Thigpen had 2 INTs, one a pick 6.
http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-coverage/2012/08/vince-young-pulling-away-from-tyler-thigpen.html
I am not saying VY should be starting, but saying he was never performing well in Buffalo isn’t a correct statement. I agree with your bottom line, but it wasn’t due to his play on the field. I stand by my statement that in between game 3 and 4 in the preseason something happened in private which led to him being cut. I don’t see any other reasonable explanation.
by Monahorns on Sep 10, 2025 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Not complicated
Vince and Tebow have this in common – their athletic talents covered up other weaknesses in their games all the way to the NFL. And in Vince’s case, those talents took him all the way to a Pro Bowl. I saw him beat Houston in Nashville just by outrunning people. NFL starters. A sight to behold.
But he’s not playing for a reason, and it’s not the current crop of coaches loyalty to Fisher or some sort of NFL DavInci Code. He’s had plenty of time and opportunity to figure it out and get it right.
I’m with DoB on this one. Let it go.
by G.O.F on Sep 9, 2025 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
Vince is no longer . . .
in a position to dictate anything. It’s simple . . . if he wants to play, he has to work hard and he has to play by whatever rules his new organization has. Failure on either count won’t work.He can’t afford to pout or loaf. It’s got to be “thank you sir . . . may I have another.” Based on what he’s shown since 2006, I’m not sure he’ has that in him.
by Cirque Du Salado on Sep 9, 2025 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
love VY but he was also bit by the injury bug
and I think that’s also what kept him on the sidelines. As an insurance policy, it doesn’t help the team if their back up is injured or takes to the field only to limp off. The off the field antics didn’t help.
by mdhorn on Sep 10, 2025 7:20 AM CDT reply actions
Off the field antics?
He got into a scuffle once. That’s it. The Jeff Fisher incident was much ado about nothing. He went out to eat.
Jeff Blake’s theory on Vince is that he hasn’t networked very well with NFL coaches. He’s got no advocates on his side. In Buffalo, it sounded he couldn’t get their terminology and it turned Gailey off, especially after a poor performance.
After this week, teams are no longer on the hook for his Bills salary. We’ll see in the next several weeks if teams are content.
by Eskimohorn on Sep 10, 2025 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The collection agency trying to serve a subpoena
at camp did not help. More than the Bills bargained for. It probably should have been routinely handled, but I bet it caused a buzz at training camp that served as an annoying disctraction.
by Major Cult on Sep 10, 2025 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree about the injuries. You probably don’t want a back up who had missed as many as he had his last 2 years as a starter behind someone like Vick.
by UT_BKC on Sep 10, 2025 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Vince Young NFL
has nothing to do with how I regard him. It’s just another of the many reasons I quit watching the NFL. It’s too specialized for my tastes. I prefer college football with all it’s imperfections and too small, too slow and more normal characters. I hope all our former players have success in their lives after UT & if that’s the NFL then best of luck but it doesn’t alter how I view their careers. Vince Young has had a successful NFL career & made enough money that he should be okay (although I read a post that indicated that might not be the case) and I hope he makes whatever changes he needs to make to continue his NFL career. That’s up to him but it doesn’t change the fact that he is the most dominate college player I’ve witnessed in over 55 years of following the sport. And he’s one of us; 41-38.
by ole tnhorn on Sep 10, 2025 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
nice post
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
by realmccoy on Sep 10, 2025 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, ole!
This is how I feel about UT QB’s since I’ve been old enough to follow the team:
Major Applewhite: Every time I see him at a a bar or restaurant, I’m buying him a drink.
Colt McCoy: If he needs help moving (even 3rd floor to 3rd floor), I’m renting a truck.
Vince Young: If he needs to bury a body, I’m digging a hole.
A&M;'s all-male cheerleaders, or "Yell Leaders", will be right at home when visiting Arkansas. It's like "Deliverance", but it's real...
by bevosteve67 on Sep 10, 2025 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
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