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The Texas Longhorns Have a Fullback Problem

The internet conversation is centered around the tight end position, where bad luck, bad development, and bad recruiting identification have emasculated a position once a traditional strength, but there's another component in the 2012 Longhorn running game where question marks abound.

Fullback.

Last year, Texas was blessed with two solid fullbacks: Cody Johnson - who also filled a role as short yardage back, offered some value in the passing game, and came on strong late as a lead blocker - and walk-on Jamison Berryhill, who flourished as a blocker until CoJo got the hang of things and learned to bring his feet after initial contact. With those seniors gone, Texas is grooming new talent to lead Brown, Bergeron, and Gray into the breach.

Star-divide

Blocking from the fullback position is a skill as much as a test of courage and good ones aren't common. It's about power (preferably in your ass and thighs), frame/hip bend (if you come high, you'll get stood up in the hole), coordination (you have to be able to acquire LBs and safeties in space), and mentality (enjoying constant, thankless, violent contact).

Let's talk about the candidates, and then possible work-arounds if we don't get what we need from the position.

Personnel

Ryan Roberson - 5-10, 240

Roberson has the right fullback frame and the fifth year senior has a decent amount of seasoning, having been a frequent participant on Longhorn special teams. Not dynamic enough for LB, Roberson settled at FB, where seniority and fit suggest that he'll get first crack at leading for Harsin's run game. Roberson has never been contact shy, but I don't have much opinion of him beyond that. Ryan won't be asked to carry or catch the ball, but he will have to show dimensions yet unrevealed in order for our ground game to maximize.

The hard fact is that as a solid as Jamison Berryhill was as a lead blocker, Roberson was jumped on the depth chart by a walk-on last year. Unless Roberson brought it in the offseason and brings it in this Fall camp, the position becomes a likely workaround.

Chet Moss - 6-2, 240

Moss showed some skill and instinct at the LB position, but lacks the quickness and athleticism Diaz covets in his backers. Off to fullback he went. Those instincts do translate to FB - he's just changing the side of the ball, and the acquisition target goes from RB to LB, but much more is needed of the position. Moss is a true sophomore, still probably lacking in the physical maturity required of the position, and it's unclear whether he has the necessary explosiveness to blow up a LB in space.

Alex De La Torre - 6-0, 225

Our third linebacker project move finishes out the depth chart at FB. Anyone notice a trend? I have no idea how De La Torre has developed, but in high school, he was undersized and underpowered. Unless Wylie's offseason program included heavy doses of Gamma radiation, he's not ready for prime time.

Now that I've awed you all with our choices in personnel (and you may have a deeper understanding of why JUCO blocking specialist Geoff Swaim is coming here next year), and in anticipation of the standard suggestions that comes up when Longhorn fans hear the word "fullback" and begin waxing rhapsodic about Steve Worster and their desire for the wishbone's return or a two-headed running attack featuring fullback dives that won't be happening, let's talk workarounds.

Possible Workarounds

Why Don't We Just Go Double Tight Or Use A H-Back?

We can and will. However, TE isn't a position of strength its own self, I don't see a TE on the roster who can be a credible lead blocker as an offset H-back in the backfield on a power lead play (Barrett Matthews is probably our best hope), and in a sense we're now featuring a position we've all agreed is a relative weakness, with (relatively) more ability at pass-catching than blocking. Although our running game is flexible, a good lead blocker inside is valued for optimization. We can't maximize with a bunch of TEs screening defenders instead of moving the LOS. When you have big running backs that like contact, a solid interior OL, and a Big 12 conference with poor DT play, the difference between a dominant running game and a good one may just rest on a fullback's ability to erase a linebacker in the 3 hole. DJ Grant ain't doing that.

Insert (Name Of Random OL or DL) Shouldz Playz Fullbackz!

A FB has to be athletic enough to change direction and not get matadored by defenders, can't get submarined, and 99.8% of big men lose their explosiveness outside of small spaces. That's why you only see them on goalline situations, where the field is compressed, and defenders are forced to meet blocks.

Joe Bergeron Could Play Fullback

He could, though we don't actually know how good he'd be at it and if his heart would be in it. We don't want to play our most physically gifted runner at FB. And we're not running the Veer or Wishbone, so he's not going to get to carry the rock. Could we do some things with split backs, featuring two halfbacks at the same time? Maybe. But it won't be a mainstay.

Let's Spread The Field

Go 3 WRs, 1 RB and force the defense into undermanning the LOS and going nickel. Make them cover the guy who would have been at FB. Looks great on a napkin, but that puts the game on our QB and WRs. If you can't throw credibly and consistently with good reads into coverage, the defense destroys your run game with simple numbers and focus, and the Longhorn turnover factory starts pushing out product on 3rd and 11.

Conclusion

The Fullback Problem doesn't have an easy solution and though its impacts are subtle compared to possible deficiencies on the OL or QB, we won't maximize in the running game to its potential without a credible H-back or fullback. 4th year senior Barrett Matthews and 5th year senior Ryan Roberson have a real opportunity to end their careers with gusto and earn cult fan status - at least among the football nerds who appreciate role players - if they can provide what we need to augment Harsin's offense.

I'm eager to hear your thoughts. Who steps up? And if no one does, how do we work around it?

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Great post

another 2 problems with the “spread it out” plan, besides its reliance on an effective passing game and having a bevy of effective receivers, is
a). It erases some of the plays and formation motions that allow Harsin to move around chess pieces and create opportunities through schematic confusion and pre-snap leverage.
b). It requires more QB option in the run game to get numbers advantages and sets us up for the same disasters of the past, “if VY/McCoy/Ash gets hurt we are screwed.”

Re: B, if we had someone besides Case manning the back-up spot I’d feel okay about using Ash to make the run game go but since we don’t…

This seems to be a problem all around football. There is zero glory in today’s game for good blocking FB’s. It’s hard to get your good athletes to play there and the skills required to do it aren’t valued either monetarily or in the media. I saw a video where Alex Gibbs basically says “why have a slow blocker on your roster there? Just use the older, back-up RB instead.”

Teams aren’t putting talent at FB, and they are counting on having the personnel to execute the passing game in the single-back formations. Generally they look at their 3rd and 4th receivers and say, “that guy is far more valuable to us than sticking Poleiwieske in there just to block.”

Puts us in a real bind, as you’ve noted. We don’t have the pieces (I think) to excel in the modern passing game, we don’t have the bricklayers to do it the classic way, and we would rather not rely on the option/QB running to make it happen.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Good response

1. Yeah, the more you spread it out, or even go double tight ends, the more tempting/necessary it is to use the QB as a run threat. We need to run Ash some, but we also need to look to his health.

2. I don’t think it’s a crippling problem for us, it’s just a real shame that Vonta Leach is nowhere to be found on campus. It’s that little extra something that puts a running game over the top.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

not crippling, agreed

but we just don’t have the personnel to maximize the Harsin offense, at least as we saw it in Boise.
If he can re apply all the principles with what we have, maybe we can achieve something great. Looks more like we’ll be trying to rise above mediocrity though, not turning heads.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harsin had to be shocked to realize

that he left more talent in Boise than he had here. I guarantee you he stared off into space for a while after his first practice.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Just a question stemming from what Harsin’s reaction likely was…what did Greg Davis do when he got to Iowa?

by uthookem on Jul 16, 2025 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He breathed a sigh of relief

that his head coach is an expert OL developer.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's interesting to think about

what positions Harsin actually felt comfortable with after showing up… there are so many blackholes on the offense that the current staff has to fill with matter, that it is in no way surprising that we keep finding new areas where the depth chart provides questionable answers.

by Big(g) Ern on Jul 16, 2025 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was unhappy

with QB, WR, OL, TE. Other than that, we were in really good shape.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness

He hadn’t seen Chet Moss at FB yet.

by Big(g) Ern on Jul 16, 2025 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

This begs the question.....why no true FB's in the 2011 - 2013 recruiting classes?

(And yes, I know that Swaim was brought in to help).

At what point does the derth of prospects at the position fall on Harsin himself?

by Horncasting on Jul 16, 2025 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

how do recruit a FB

they are generally inferior athletes to LB and RBs. It more about mentality than a skill set. FBs are crazy bastards. Hard to say what makes a fullback

by codaxx on Jul 16, 2025 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't recruit FB prospects at all

Unless some guy is just a mutant. You typically find them from position switches. Harsin wants great TEs, first and foremost. In their absence, FB takes on more meaning.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

if players continue developing into potential defensive tackles

maybe we can borrow one and plug him into the H-back role. Any with soft hands?

by mdhorn on Jul 16, 2025 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

the value

of a good DT is well beyond that of a fullback.

by codaxx on Jul 16, 2025 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

high schools

don’t put their best athletes at FB, unless they run the bone or something.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

why it is hard

in the end every FB in teh NFL now is a failure at another position.

by codaxx on Jul 16, 2025 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

but

only at the goaline. Has not part of the normal offense.

by codaxx on Jul 16, 2025 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

he wouldn't be "refrigerator"

by today’s standards either.

by mdhorn on Jul 16, 2025 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Former Marine walk-on who can carry a flag & play fullback

Can’t we just get one of those? Wait, what… there is a different school that has a military presence & gets kids that walk out of the stands? My bad

by OneRiot on Jul 16, 2025 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

Played a lot of years in the NFL. Is he still active?

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 16, 2025 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was sure to notice

the upside of Texas recruiting. One problem is the spread is run throughout the state. Like he has said, this isn’t the Boise Offense, it will be the Texas Offense.

If i were Chet Moss, being snubbed at LB i would welcome knocking them on their butts.

by 55f100tx on Jul 16, 2025 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

the number of Texas kids

playing not-spread offenses still results in more good recruits than all of Idaho. The fact that many Texas high schools are now running the spread isn’t necessarily a problem in preparing kids to run 2-back schemes.

Hell, tons of the best kids aren’t even playing the position in HS they’ll play in college.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gave this some thought after the spring game

I felt that CoJo was an underrated FB towards the end of the season as his lead blocking markedly improved, though that wasn’t as apparent since poor carry distribution hobbled our tailbacks for the last part of the season.

I too am not enthused by the FB options, though Roberson is probably our best hope. I’m not overly concerned though, as there are some schematic workarounds.

Harsin has already shown he likes a bit of the diamond or broken diamond look. While I wouldn’t move Bergeron to FB fulltime, having him work both as a lead blocker as well as a run threat out of the diamond is a definite possibility. Barrett Mathews has already practiced transitioning from HBack to the blocker in the diamond.

My realistic expectation would be an adequate effort from Roberson coupled with a healthy dose of diamond looks. There’s also the wildcat which takes the linebacker out of the play biting on the wrong read, and the jet sweep action by Monroe or Daje holding a LB a step.

FB won’t be a strength, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be a weakness either.

by CMDR on Jul 16, 2025 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, there are formational workarounds

But it robs us of a certain core identity. We just become a mix of workarounds on the problem. However, if we get adequacy from Roberson, we’re OK. I’m just concerned that he got jumped by a walk-on.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

In this case, I'm not sure that the workarounds are not already part of that identity

Last year Harsin ran as much pin and pull out of single back than with a fullback. He also ran plenty of inside power and zone out of shotgun and pistol with the single back.

by CMDR on Jul 16, 2025 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure.

We also started a true freshman at QB, started Jeremy Hills at HB, started a true freshman at LT, a true frosh was our best receiver, and we were forced to make Cody Johnson our Wildcat back. What we do from necessity may not always be desire. If we had great TEs, Harsin wouldn’t care about FB. The point remains - we need blockers at TE/FB. Especially if we want to take the next step in the running game.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point is that even with good FB options on the bench vs Cal

Harsin opted at times to forego the lead blocker and run the basic run concepts out of single back or with the HBack as the lead blocker.

That implies that if CoJo was on the bench, it was by design rather than by necessity.

I might be reading too much into the Greg Swaim JUCO addition, but my feel moving foward is that Harsin conceptually prefers the blocking TE/Hback heavy offense rather than featuring the traditional fullback.

by CMDR on Jul 16, 2025 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no may about it

He does prefer it. We don’t have the tools needed for 2012. So, now we’re back to discussing FB.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Christ.
We also started a true freshman at QB, started Jeremy Hills at HB, started a true freshman at LT, a true frosh was our best receiver, and we were forced to make Cody Johnson our Wildcat back.

AHHHHHH!!!!!!!

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 16, 2025 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You nailed this.

It was like watching a glacier.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Cody jumped, too?

My only meager thought after reading the great piece and excellent conversation to this point was that Berryhill may be a higher bar than he is given credit for. Didn’t it take Cody half a season to become as effective a blocker as the walk-on? Perhaps the ex-linebackers can clear that bar and be effective.

I’ve watched replays of the A&M and Holiday Bowl games on LHN (that’s right, I got the Grande, pobrecitos) and was reminded of how much I’ll miss Cody. Compliments to him for embracing the position and become so effective.

by RomaVicta on Jul 16, 2025 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

not to mention

that Berryhill was signed as a free agent by the Ravens. Cody was clearly the better option by the end of the season but Berryhill was a badass in his own right. But then, I’m one of those nerdy guys Scipio is referring to that loves guys who take pride in their role… especially when that role involved knocking the snot out of whoever they are sicked on.

by LonghornScott on Jul 16, 2025 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're claiming your living room

Under adverse possession laws.

Online squatters rights, imo.

by Vasherized on Jul 16, 2025 9:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

as we saw last year

the extra formations and stuff are great, but if the base concepts aren’t working then you can’t get too far.

I’m intrigued by the usage of the half-diamond or whatever else, but that requires either a lot of option or a lot of blocking from Berg and Brown. Will they be proficient at that?

It’s not like OSU’s zone schemes where the backs in the diamond are screening defenseman and creating seams. The Power-0 requires that people get knocked backwards.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

Barrett Mathews is the likely guy if we aren’t getting what we want out of Roberson. Mathews practiced in both the fullback and h-back role in the Spring. I also thought that pound for pound, Roberson looked pretty good in the two open practices but we are often asking our fullback to kick a defensive end and I don’t know if Roberson has to punch to make that happen.

by LonghornScott on Jul 16, 2025 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

easy to forget

but seems like USC and Bama don’t really utilize the fullback position either. Or maybe I haven’t been paying attention. Also, thought Bergeron did already run it on occasion.

by mdhorn on Jul 16, 2025 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

USC and Bama are different animals

USC runs a spread concept offense with exceptional talent at WR and QB. Bama runs a multi-TE/H-back offense and all of them, except for the pass catcher Smelley, are outstanding blockers.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bama

as Scipio notes, do different things.

They run Power and Counter but they also run inside/outside zone blocking. Using those big TE’s to seal and make combo blocks on the edge.

USC Scipio already noted, they have a future top 10 pick at QB and NFL guys running routes. Also, the 2005 team had an NFL fullback on it.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Carroll teams all used FBs heavily

I think Stanely Havili was there for ten years. And they never paired White with Bush, which is telling.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bush and White not together

Which is why Texas beat them!!!! ;)
So says many a USC fan.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other options

Regarding the fullback, I look at it as either a +, - or neutral. At this point, I’d say I’d have to a blind optimist to believe its a + so I will settle for being neutral until next yr.

While we aren’t running the wishbone or things like that, I would be shocked if we didnt see more read, option concepts. We already have the Wildcat, Pistol and showed a little of the full house backfield.

My dream scenario is that we run a package with DJ Monroe similar to Oregons speed spread running attack. I am a lay-person so I won’t pretend to know what blocking skills are needed in the OL. I simply like that it lets us use our Swiss army knife players (Shipley, DJ, John Harris). I would like this compared to our jet tempo package. Anywho just my musings

by HornsUpInLA on Jul 16, 2025 1:58 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

We'll go plenty of Wildcat, certainly

But I’m talking more about our base offense.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

What candidates are in the incoming frosh?

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter."
Darrell Royal

by Snide Aside on Jul 16, 2025 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Blueitt at TE

No traditional FBs.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Split backs, why not a mainstay?

JoeB looks a lot like a young Ricky Williams, who spent a year or two at FB. I’ve always been a fan of getting the most talent on the field, and between him, Brown, and Gray that is where our offensive talent lies right now. It’s been a while, so I cannot recall how often we asked Ricky to be a take on a LB and clear the hole. My basic memory of how we deployed him was that Shon Mitchell ran outside and Ricky ran inside. Is my memory correct?

by I am conVINCEd on Jul 16, 2025 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe this is an answer

but we haven’t seen it. Would Joe Bergeron be a good lead blocker? I don’t know, we haven’t seen it. All evidence suggests we aren’t interested in robbing Peter to pay Paul by using our potential feature back in that role.

I think of all the potential answers, risking Ash in QB option is most likely. Or him developing enough in the passing game to take pressure off the running game.

by Nickel Rover on Jul 16, 2025 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe B. is actually an example of UT recruiting a position too well

Stil think he’d make a good FB…..and he’d probably be one if he hadn’t shown up on campus in such great shape.

by Horncasting on Jul 16, 2025 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe B

I would think he would be a natural at the FB position. If there is a knock on his running ability it is he seems to look for contact too much. Seems liek a fit, but I probably would not want to have him blocking exclusively.

by codaxx on Jul 16, 2025 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He would be a good lead blocker

He was a team player in HS, Did everything. But what a waste it could be if Texas put him there.. Fullback is not his position. His HS coach should be kicking himself in the butt for not allowing Joe to carry the team. But it is to Texas benefit that he was just 1 of 11 at Mesquite.

by 55f100tx on Jul 16, 2025 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Moss definitely still with the team?

Didn’t he go home during the bowl workouts and then miss the spring?

by Horncasting on Jul 16, 2025 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, he's listed on the current roster

So I just dutifully listed him. Not a factor, anyway.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is terrifying

that Chet Moss is the second option on your list.

by Big(g) Ern on Jul 16, 2025 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to go Ransom Stoddard

but outside of HB, there is not a single position on the offensive depth chart that anyone should feel comfortable with right now. Hopefully, Ash is the answer and the OL with Hawkins at LT improves - but there are more questions than answers across the board.

Beyond the HBs, the only individual I feel completely comfortable with is a sophomore wide receiver who had a semi-serious knee injury.

Good times!

by Big(g) Ern on Jul 16, 2025 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

But, but...

WE’RE TEXAS!

Actually, I feel better about the OL than you do. I like Cochran and Hopkins a lot. Walters’ actual play may catch up to his reputation. Espinosa will grow. Mike Davis isn’t the first wide out to experience a sophomore slump. Ash will get better, that’s almost guaranteed.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like our OL situation better than I did last year, but from a depth chart perspective, I feel like we are one injury away from anarchy on the line when we have to start moving people around to plug holes. To say the OL will be a team strength this year requires optimistic assumptions about unproven parts (Espinosa will add strength, Hawkins can play at this level, Flowers will be able to contribute, etc.).

There are plenty of reasons to be optimistic, but few reasons to be comfortable at this point. Which is fine - that is what makes off-season interesting as we all opine on who will make the jump and who will be brought up during the airing of grievances during Festivus.

by Big(g) Ern on Jul 16, 2025 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's no team strength

I can just tell you that we’ll be better there.

by Scipio Tex on Jul 16, 2025 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

on the flip side

if there is an injury at Tackle. Riser goes to guard and Hopkins goes to Tackle. Not perfect, but may be an upgrade in the run game. Just pray there arent a lot of 3rd and 10s in that scenario

by codaxx on Jul 16, 2025 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back with the team

but scuttlebutt is that grades will be a persistent issue.

by Big(g) Ern on Jul 16, 2025 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. This thread blew up quick. I like all the enthusiasm.

Why not put mean Joe in the CoJo role? I know he’s a bit more compact, but not knowing any better, I think he’d be effective. I mean, shit, we have an embarrassment of riches in running back talent and one of them just happens to have been a FB recruit before he showed up looking like a RB. I say send him out lead blocking for Brown or Gray half the time, and hand him the rock with TE’s or a pulling guard lead blocking for him enough to keep him happy. It’s all about versatility with our coordinators on both sides of the ball.

I know much less than most of you about this subject, so someone who knows better tell me why we can’t get what we need out of Joe B as a part-time fullback and part-time RB. I understand that we lose effectiveness when Joe is toting the rock without a proven fullback to lead for him when he is running the ball, but in my vision we’d just be running him as a halfback as much as needed to keep him happy while using him as a FB to maximize runs for the other two halfbacks.

Would Joe have to rework his body to be a fully effective FB? He’s already got a strong lower body and pretty good heft, doesn’t he?

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 16, 2025 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I know Scip addressed this in the main post,

but I guess I’m not totally convinced Joe B isn’t the best solution.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 16, 2025 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a well developed argument

I actually agree at first blush, but if we can’t rely on enough passing game to unload the box and a fully effective fullback turns out to be necessary for our running game to win games for us, then I ask you who comes from a position with more depth AND would be more effective? I could see Chris Whaley, but I think Manny would throw a fit.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 17, 2025 9:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Joe B. needs to toat the rock

He reminds me of Ricky… I know Ricky had the title of FB, but he got plenty of carries & yards when he had that title. I would prefer Joe B. not play FB in this offense. Just got to hope we can McGyver this position like we have in the past.

by OneRiot on Jul 16, 2025 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ricky also blocked his ass off and didn't get nearly the carries

even when at TB, that he should have under Mackovich.

by boorad on Jul 18, 2025 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting carry splits during Ricky's three years under Johnny Mac.

First year Mitchell had him by about 10 carries with both backs in the area of 1,000 yards for the year.

Sophomore year Ricky had over 200 carries for 1,200 yards, Shon had just under 120 carries, and Priest had just over 50 carries.

Next year Ricky averaged almost 28 carries a game and no else had more than 3-4 carries a game.

Interesting that Ced had over 150 more carries his first two years than Rick at Texas.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it possible that the defenses uncertainty pre-snap over whether Ricky was going to be lead blocking or getting the ball himself helped make the running play just a touch harder to defend, whether it was Ricky or the guy he was lead blocking for? I’m theorizing, and legitimately asking those of you who know more football than I do.

That was kind of the crux of my idea to use Joe B as fullback. Add some uncertainty beyond what Harsin does with his shifts and motion.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jul 19, 2025 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is a great question and I think does tap into what Harsin wants to do offensively.

Texas had two very good running backs in Shon and Ricky, a solid quarterback in Brown, a very good tight end in Fitzgerald, and one above average receiver in Adams. Aside from that I wouldn’t say Justin McLemore and Matt Davis would qualify as explosive receivers.

Look at the numbers though and it is pretty eye opening:

Shon 6.2 a carry and 91+ a game
Ricky 6.0 a carry, 82+ a game, and 14+ a catch
Adams 16+ a catch
Justin 16+ a catch
Fitz 14+ a catch
Matt 20+ a catch

Team totaled 2400+ on the ground, 2700+ throwing, and 32 points a game.

by davey o'brien on Jul 19, 2025 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I Get It - every bad LB take is a FB by default.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Jul 16, 2025 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I Thought That....

Barrett Matthews made up for his Teflon hands with his tenacious blocking ability. What happened?

I think Bluiett and Daniels are forgotten wild card candidates for the " big ol’ cuss motions from the wing and clears out the hole"’role.

Joe B was supposed to be a Havili redux except that he grabbed the RB position by the hips and thrust himself into contention for a spot on the first string.

by Bobby_Batronic on Jul 16, 2025 7:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

those who thought that

including the recruiting services so admired by some, never saw Joe play in HS. I did. I knew when he hit camp he would have a Tailback Job. I sang his praises before he ever hit campus. I had no clue about Brown but i figured no way Brown was better. Brown is great, i still think Joe is better, by a little bit.

by 55f100tx on Jul 16, 2025 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know a poster

That said Harsin would be shocked at the lack of talent when he got to UT. Can’t be fixed overnight

by ransomstoddard on Jul 16, 2025 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I wondered about him

You know who I’d love . . . but he’s a true frosh and too important, long term, at defensive tackle.
M B Dos

by edsp on Jul 16, 2025 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Someone above mentioned moving M B Uno to the position. Even entertaining that idea would get the transfer papers shuffling.

I know what you mean, though. Some of these DT kids are so explosive and violent that it’d be fun to watch for a few plays a week.

by ColoradoAg on Jul 16, 2025 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It befuddles me that we can't find another walk-on here....

I mean, 25,000 students (male) and we can’t find one with enough ass and rage to curb-stomp OU at the cotton bowl?

Not to mention all the perks that go along with being on the team. ANNNND didn’t our last 2 FB’s get drafted?

Mack needs to take a walk around campus and just start pointing fingers.

Mack:“You.”

Unsuspecting student:“Me what”

Mack:“You are our new FB.”

US:“Wait, what….I don’t even know the first….are you serious?”

* Mack Brown-seething-eye-glare *

US:“Yes Coach”

“Much better….see you at practice tomorrow. * walks-off *….. * from a distance * YOU!”

by e1 kabong on Jul 16, 2025 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe we can call Navarro and get Traylon Shead to transfer back

Wouldn’t starting FB at UT be better than starting RB at NJC?

Did you read my comment, or did you merely see that it disagreed and begin composing your response immediately? by BrooklynHorn

by run Bevo run on Jul 16, 2025 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

If Texas is truly open to the JUCO route

I will throw out a name for future reference. EJ Fatu who is going to Blinn.

You will find him listed at around 220, but he hasn’t weighed that since freshmen year. If I had to guess EJ is closer to 245-250 and is a mean SOB. He won’t back down from anything and I think he is realizing what he cost himself by some poor choices the he made after his father suddenly passed.

The Klein Oak -Skyline game would have been much more interesting had Oak had EJ to run the ball down in Skyline’s territory instead of a back who might weigh less than our chocolate lab.

by davey o'brien on Jul 16, 2025 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

remember this guy?

yeah, me too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf69emqoqX0

"If God dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."

by RedmondLonghorn on Jul 17, 2025 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

What a high IQ block this was:

http://youtu.be/Rf69emqoqX0?t=1m35s

Releases one guy to pick up the more dangerous rushes. We could used some of that…

by pleaseplaykindle on Jul 17, 2025 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remind me again

why we passed on Ramacher? I recall being pleased at a report that Harsin had gone to take a look at him… and… nothing… Wha hoppen?

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You Ain't Never Whipped... Until YOU Quit -- Tex Long, Seven Words of Wisdom
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by longtex on Jul 17, 2025 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought the story was he had already committed by the time Texas decided he was "worthy"

of a look . Rivals shows he committed to Okie State in May of 2011.

Look, it is easy to understand how Texas overlooked the guy. It isn’t like the Horns had gone through spring and knew they were thin in a few spots on offense and it isn’t like they have a relationship with the Denton Guyer coaching staff.

by davey o'brien on Jul 18, 2025 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  


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