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It was hard to make much of the New Mexico game on replay, particularly on offense where we faced a totally outmatched defense that gave Ash time to do a NYT crossword puzzle before finding Mike Davis on a shallow cross.
The most I learned from that experience was from a handy LHN graphic that revealed that Joe Bergeron has 164 career rush yards in the 1st half of games and 409 in the 2nd half. That came about from 5.5 yards per carry production in first halves and 7.2 yards per carry in second halves.
Of course this merely reveals what we already suspected -- it's hard to tackle big Joe in the 2nd half.
The New Mexico offense isn't really like anything else we'll see this year. I'll mention two Big 12 offenses later that utilize some option and pistol but New Mexico is more of a classic veer team. This wasn't zone-blocking with read elements, it was down-blocking, cut blocks, and dives.
That said, it was interesting to track the performance of the linebackers in filling assignments, taking on blocks, and running around the field. This is what I learned from viewing their flashback to high school football.
Jordan Hicks is the real deal. When he came to Austin he seemed perfectly suited to become a dynamic weakside linebacker in any variety of 4-3 defenses. His high school film was replete with highlights of Hicks flying around the football field and shrinking it down so that it resembled a playground dominated by a sociopathic 6th grader.
The flashes of brilliance we've seen from him since have indicated that he only needed some schematic seasoning and the departure of NFL-bound outside backers ahead of him to finally maximize his potential.
Two games into the season he has 20 tackles, 3 for loss, and a pass break-up. What stands out from his New Mexico film is how well he plays on the run, which will be important throughout the season against teams that make you play in space.
Steve Edmond, on the other hand, has a more classic linebacker skill set. In between the tackles he has a lot of value, and that will increase as he learns to play lower, but outside of the tackles he's more limited. I don't think we'll see him making a ton of plays in pursuit, but he can be effective in spilling a play for someone else to pursue.
Take the following play, which is a wishbone-style triple option.
We line up with our secondary deep off the ball and we also played DeMarco Cobbs pretty deep as well, much like we'll see other teams use this position, where's he basically an extra safety.
The Wide Receiver to the field side comes running in to play as the pitch man while the halfback, also deceptively lined up to the field, comes across to the boundary side as a lead blocker. The running back is the dive option.
Edmond's job is to handle the dive option, Hicks has the QB, Cobbs generally gets to fly around and make things happen. He made 5 tackles for the game in this role.
Edmond successfully fills the middle, but he lacks the quicks to get outside and make a play on the option (although most players would). Hicks is in good position to fill outside, but he needs to handle the lead block well to do so. Cobbs has diagnosed what's going on and he's doing his thing.
Hicks keeps his outside shoulder free when engaging the halfback while running laterally with the play, spilling the option further towards the sideline.
Hicks forces the pitch, which is Diggs' job and he's coming off the WR block to blow things up. The play resolves with Diggs hitting the pitch man in the backfield, failing to wrap up, and Hicks cleaning up anyways for a yard loss.
Throughout the game, and even on the next play, Hicks did a great job of taking on blocks and making tackles in space against the confusing New Mexico attack. Between Hicks, Cobbs, and the secondary Texas has a rare collection of players who can run, break down, and tackle in space, which is exactly what most of the Big 12 is going to make them do.
Edmond has a very specific value to this team as a plugger inside who can allow the defensive ends and other backers to fly to the edges. If you make him fight blocks on the run or change direction in space, I'm not sure how he'll look butsd I'm curious to see how he plays against spread teams better than Wyoming that use more misdirection and attack the middle of the field with their passing game. If teams can't find out how to make him move laterally they aren't going to like the effect he can have on their running game.
I'm eager to see more of what Cobbs offers against spread teams. Can he disguise and play different coverages? Can he stay healthy? Can he take on a lead block from a halfback? Positive answers to these questions would mean a big season from our linebacker corp this year.
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Iowa St. had the opportunity to face the Greg Davis-coordinated Iowa Hawkeyes in their annual rivalry game this weekend and managed to win despite finishing 3 drives in the red zone with turnovers.
So far the experiment in Iowa City to combine their classic 4-3 defense and potent zone running game with the Greg Davis passing game has not gone terribly well. However, I think there is reason to believe that things won't go terribly well for other Big 12 passing games either.
Take this play late in the game:
Iowa has just completed a big passing play down the middle of the field and are trying to tie or win the game with a minute remaining.
Iowa St. is in their basic 2-deep shell vs. Davis' preferred 11 personnel trips offense. They line up both their "hy-backer" (what they call the nickel back) and field corner 6 yards off the ball with the safeties 14 yards back apiece. They don't always align quite this deep but the M.O. in Ames is bend don't break, and they rely on tackling and offensive mistakes to kill drives.
Old Greg hits them with 4 verticals, the spread staple that is a challenging concept for Iowa St.'s usual Cover-3 zone defense. The deep alignment of the nickel and corner combined with the good initial drop Middle linebacker AJ Klein gets means it's going to take some time for something to open up.
The TE cuts inside behind the linebackers Klein and Knott, however Knott has dropped back about 4 yards in an instant to tighten the window. You can see his lightning reaction here as he reaches his hand up.
He then tips the ball to himself for a game-sealing interception and old Greg takes a swig of Baileys from a boot.
Klein and Knott combined in this game for only 14 tackles but they managed to hold the Iowa running game to 2.4 yards per carry and the passing game to 5.6 yards per pass attempt. It is exceptionally difficult to sustain drives on this defense because these two consistently make open field tackles, fill passing windows, and do basically everything that Big 12 offenses demand from linebackers.
On offense, they've brought back the Steele Jantz improv hour, and are running a ton of zone-read with a 270 pound TE named Hammerschmidt on the edge and a solid collection of backs led by Shontrelle Johnson. The running game is very solid, although it struggled against Iowa, and the improv hour is generally a mixed bag.
If you aren't able to turn over Jantz this team will bludgeon you to death. Consider their home schedule in league play: Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, and West Virginia
You couldn't do a much better job of picking the teams in the Big 12 vulnerable to a team that can run the ball and ask you to sustain drives against disciplined zone pass defense.
So I'm now riding shotgun on the Iowa St. bandwagon. I'm expecting 7-8 wins, a big win over a team that no one expected them to be able to beat (OU, WVU are leading candidates), and some stunned media reaction to their final league ranking and record.
Last year's surprise team, Kansas St., is making sure that no one overlooks them this year. Their beatdown of Miami was impressive mostly for revealing a team that has become much more well-rounded on offense.
While Miami looks terrible, the manner in which Klein confidently eviscerated them in the passing game suggests that his command of the offense and gameplan has reached a new level. He knows where the candy is and he's going there without hesitation. Their running back Hubert is running well, the overall supporting cast is stronger, and the OL is gelling way too quickly.
Picking up from last year, Klein is still a patient and powerful runner but he's tightened up his release on throws. He looks more like a stiff 40 year old dominating a 2-hand touch pick-up game than a germanic barbarian aiming a framea at an unlucky legionnaire. Believe it or not, that's an upgrade.
I wondered if their defensive line would play as well as last year inside when they were somewhat difficult to move off the line of scrimmage. They lost solid nosetackle Ray Kibble but they're probably better overall. Vai Lutui is a fireplug inside, they have more depth, and their ends are playing better than last year.
It's a dangerous team. The big test will be how they handle an elite defensive line. Last year both Texas and Oklahoma manhandled their OL in the trenches. They'll get a well-prepared Oklahoma in Norman in 2 weeks that will test if the new OL can handle top-level athletes.
Thoughts?
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Thanks for the breakdown.
You’re mostly discussing the LBs, but I have a question about how Diaz is using the DBs in the game. As you note, they’re playing pretty far back. It seems that we’re relying on the DBs having the closing speed to get to the runner if the ball comes outside of the tackles. Does giving that much cushion make it easier for the DB to diagnose the play, or is the intent to give recovery time in the unlikely event of a pass? I don’t remember us giving that much space when we anticipate run in other games.
by Flipteach on Sep 12, 2025 1:19 AM CDT reply actions
Not to intrude...
But the triple option takes more time to develop than other run schemes. Deep alignments gave the DBs enough time to diagnose and react accordingly. Against other opponents, you’ll see the safeties have variable alignments.
One element to the triple option game I surprisingly didn’t see from New Mexico was a play action off of the triple option look. I’m not sure if that had anything to do with the change in QB, but its usually a standard wrinkle used by triple option teams. They honestly could have done much more offensively to challenge us schematically but must not have it in the playbook.
by Drew Kelson on Sep 12, 2025 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
When we went to 1 high looks
They went to the passing game, including a little play action. I think the fact that we played so much 2 Read with 7 in the box is what kept them running the ball.
by LonghornScott on Sep 12, 2025 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
good point
I think that was basically the gameplan. Make them sustain drives with the option against 2-deep safeties and a deep SAM who can absolutely fly to the LOS. Sort of like what we did to ISU last year.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, thanks.
I didn’t consider that the triple option is a slower developing run play. Makes sense. I was wondering about how the DB alignments would transfer to the teams with faster athletes (OU and WV in particular), but it sounds like we’re unlikely to use the same way off the line formation.
I got the impression that the QB change took a number of the passing constraints off the table for NM.
by Flipteach on Sep 12, 2025 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
must say I disagree w the bc company line this week
re: Edmond and cobbs. Thought that cobbs was mediocre at best and Edmond did at least a 60/40 job in terms of standing up to the cuts and causing general disruption to what they were doing. I think that manny sent them out to read and react only and figured in case of emergency make adjustment. I don’t have a problem w that because of the inferior talent and b/c it allowed for them to learn on the job. they get to watch film in case that’s a role they’re asked to play again (individually or not) in other situations.
as far as Edmond getting low I’m not convinced that’s a learnable trait with how he’s looked out there. he plays long and lean even at 250+. I don’t know if he’ll improve laterally or not but I’m not sure getting his ass down is gonna be able to help him even if he does learn it. that’s where hicks and cobbs are supposed to come in though, right?
by mattw on Sep 12, 2025 1:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Exactly
Other than Hicks, the LB play was mediocre at best
by ransomstoddard on Sep 12, 2025 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I think everyone here agrees with that assessment...
The LB play was indeed mediocre. I’m not sure anyone has tried to make the case that it was any better than that. There’s no way Manny sent them out to read and react only. The coaches know not to take games like this for granted and they prepared schematically to defend this offense. It was pretty, but there were definitely rules and responsibilities in place.
What I’ve done is tried to keep in perspective that this is the 2nd start for Edmond and Cobbs against a cumbersome offense. While the play was far from stellar, this game gave them a ton of film to learn from even though their ideal roles in the defense will be different once Big XII play starts. There’s no doubt the verdict is still out on these guys, but this is who we got and they have no choice but to grow. After this week’s game I imagine the bye week will be huge for them.
by Drew Kelson on Sep 12, 2025 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
that they’ll get better and that the option really did them no favors.
i think both players can be complete studs and i think edmond showed some flashes this game and cobbs the last. i also think working w/ hicks is only gonna make it easier for them to settle in. just nit picking really. it’s hard to complain about 45-0…but me and ransom (fuck’s sake) found a way.
by mattw on Sep 12, 2025 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize
I was particularly complimentary of Cobbs or Edmond. I thought I had pointed out serious limitations that Edmond has shown.
Cobbs I’ll admit to being pretty excited about, he’s exactly what you want in a linebacker in this league, but I didn’t think he did anything particularly noteworthy against the lobos.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Clarification
I take it you 7-8 Big XII Conf wins?
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
by realmccoy on Sep 12, 2025 8:19 AM CDT reply actions
no way
7-8 wins overall, which you may note is far more than anyone else thinks they’ll get.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I feel bad for my man Greg Davis...
Very few coaches are gifted with the ability to do more with less. That’s why recruiting at the top schools in the country is so important. The right players will make you look like a genius while average players can get you fired.
Every coach just has to know their formula for success. Alabama and LSU know that having a strong defense and running game is more sustainable than relying on an elite QB who’ll leave after a couple years. Look at Auburn, Stanford, and Texas amongst others who’ve lost single players that changed the entire program.
We’re in the process of changing that formula at Texas. I just hope we stay on pace with making progress.
by Drew Kelson on Sep 12, 2025 8:50 AM CDT reply actions
It's a good change
And after all, there’s no reason you can’t play a Heisman-level QB in those systems every now and then when you have one.
To me it seems like Greg needs his passing game paired with running concepts that can “do it all” and require as little practice repetitions as possible. Or maybe he’d have more luck at the NFL where his passing game wouldn’t be as hard to install.
His system might work at Iowa though, just because the running game is already so entrenched there. Perhaps when they have a QB and receivers that are more experienced in his system they’ll see some success.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
LB's, DB's and GDGD
I’m pleasantly surprised that Hicks is so active. The last two years, the phrase “he’s talented, but seems lost in space sometimes” was used to describe his play. Yes, there is experience, but the fact he can improve with time is great. Hoping the same will eventually be true for the other two LBs.
What bothers me is the whiffed tackle by an “experienced” DB like Diggs. Of course, you are going to have missed tackles (49 yd romp by Ash), but Diggs knows how to wrap up and bring down. What gives?
As for GDGD. I never understood why Iowa was favored. It’s GDGD calling the offense! Iowa State finally got our number by figuring out the King of Bubble Screens was, indeed, going to call bubble screens!
by Thor's Brother on Sep 12, 2025 9:15 AM CDT reply actions
the missed tackle by diggs
wasn’t bad. The runner spun out of it and would probably have barely stumbled past the LOS if Hicks hadn’t been there. Good defenders miss open field tackles sometimes. Watch Troy Polamalu, he’ll still miss that tackle every now and then.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
never seen
a player that hasnt missed a tackle. Diggs is one of the more physical CBs I have seen play and that was his true frosh season. I think you are nitpicking on this one
by codaxx on Sep 12, 2025 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Kansas St
Getting worried about that game. With the clamp we put on them last year I was confident our offense would put up the requisite 21 points to beat them this year. Looking like it might take 30+ to beat this years Kstate though, and that will be a tall task
Iowa st looks good but I think we beat them with relative ease if Iowa held them to 9 points
by JackbeNimble on Sep 12, 2025 9:26 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Iowa traditionally
plays great D, and ISU turned it over 3 times in the red zone. But I’m not too worried about Iowa St for us. We play them in Austin, for one, for another I don’t think Jantz is careful enough with the ball to survive our pressures and secondary.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Hicks had a good game
Edmond is mixed for me in this game. On the one hand he has shown a remarkable ability to use subtle movement in his lower body to avoid blockers in the box. On the other hand he is at times giving up his leverage on the play to run under blocks and then try to close. Edmond has shown that he is pretty talented at shedding a blocker. So a critical evolution to his game is his instinct on when to affect the play by stoning a blocker and changing the angles available to the running back vs when to wade through traffic to close on the ball. Derrick Johnson didn’t figure it out until his final year in college but then that’s the point at which he actually received some coaching at his position.
by LonghornScott on Sep 12, 2025 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
I saw him running under blocks
and struggling with cut blocks in space, but the post was already long and I didn’t want to pile on with tons of examples of how Edmond struggles in pursuit.
He looks like a 3-4 inside backer to me who’s best place on 3rd down is rushing the passer. I think he can be a great player for us but he is more of a niche guy, not like most of the other guys on this D who are versatile.
If those long arms and big hands can be made active and aware in Zone and he learns where to put his massive body inside then I think he can become pretty well-rounded.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
typical
for a young LB to run under blocks. He played HS and had such a physical advantage that proper pursuit angles were rarely punished. Hard to break a 4 yr habit in 1-2 yrs. I think that is matter of time and coaching. He is still a freak of an athlete for his size, but he wont realize his potential until he cleans up his technique.
by codaxx on Sep 12, 2025 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for write up
- With you on Hicks. He’s turning into a really good player.
- I think we all factored in that Edmond would take some time. He’s playing slower than he is right now because of indecision.
- I don’t see a way for Iowa State to get to 8 wins. And the recipe for a single game upset, which you lay out well, doesn’t imply multiple upsets. They can control an ugly game for a while. But what happens when an opponent gets a lead and put it on Jantz’s shoulders? Game over.
- KSU is going to be a major problem again. The good news is that you can throw on them. Their front 7 is better, but the secondary isn’t.
by Scipio Tex on Sep 12, 2025 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
KSU
I think their pass-rush will be better, which will make a big difference for the secondary. But they aren’t fantastic back there.
I’m not sure what Edmond’s ceiling is, it’s unfortunate for us that he probably won’t get a ton of quality reps at his specialty during league play. It’s a new experiment, I haven’t seen an anti-spread defense build around a huge middle linebacker before. There’s good reason to believe it will work but I’d like to see more.
ISU: First 3 games are pretty much in the bag. Against the home slate of Tech, KSU, WVU, OU, and Baylor I think they can add 3 more wins. I’m thinking Tech, Baylor, plus one of the big ones. I don’t see ISU over Baylor and Tech as upsets. They have a legitimately good defense and a solid running game.
That means they need to find 2 road wins against TCU, Kansas, UT, and OSU. 7 wins is most likely but there’s a chance they land 8.
They may not play from behind terribly well but I don’t see that happening a lot, and Jantz may be a little better than you remember. Or he’s improved.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 12, 2025 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The TCU game falls in a good slot for Iowa State between
road trips for the Frogs to SMU and Baylor. The first game shouldn’t be that difficult, but I think the real risk lies in a very young TCU team playing SMU after the embarrassing loss last year and before the trip to Waco loses tract of the fact Iowa State has shown they can be just as big a pain in the ass on the road as in Ames.
Rhodes brought that team to Austin in 2010 and found a way to win. Granted it wasn’t Mack’s best team, but the size of the stadium had no real effect on the Cycylones that day so I don’t think they get overwhelmed in the revamped AGC.
I see them winning at KU and it isn’t far fetched they win in Ft. Worth.
by davey o'brien on Sep 12, 2025 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
K St
I’m beginning to think that K St may be the toughest challenge for OU’s defense in the first half of the schedule. OU’s demonstrated no ability to contain a zone read yet, from UTEP and Florida A&M.; Klein will test that and more.
On the flipside, OU’s OL dominated an undermanned DL last week. It should be pointed out that OU has been unable to do that to similarly weak run defenses over the last few years. However, Jones, has locked on to Stills like he did to Broyles and OU’s explosiveness last week was largely a reflection of this connection.
Especially if Jefferson is banged up, the Cats could expose OU early on defense. K St will test OU’s new OL starters pass blocking and, even if they don’t beat OU, soften up Jones with a barrage of blitzes.
I expect the line on OU-K St to be about OU minus 7-10. I’d take the Cats.
by Quigley on Sep 12, 2025 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
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