Metrics from the Lobos
One small correction: on the first play I described Joe Bergeron as the #3 receiver repeatedly and I should have referred to him as the #1 in the formation (receiving threats are numbered from the outside in). I was too far along in the process to make a correction when I noticed the error, hopefully doesn't cause too much confusion.
Hope everyone enjoys. Glad to talk about any aspects of the game or the progression of the team in the comments.
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I have been meaning to ask,
is that bearded fellow really you? Or is it a mere artistic caricature based upon your voice modulation and music choices?
Because, really, it could be either.
by The General on Sep 13, 2025 2:30 PM CDT reply actions
Don't sell him short now
It’s clear from these videos that he has the cognitive ability and eloquence at least of a llama
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by Elm City Horn on Sep 13, 2025 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Llamas spit.
Alpaca Scott spits truth. 
by Scipio Tex on Sep 13, 2025 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
yea, it’s me. If only it were a caricature.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
Thank you
This is probably the most informative series I have seen in football. Outside your resemblance to an alpaca everything is just great
by codaxx on Sep 13, 2025 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
Hey Scott, what's your take on the play variations that you mentioned
I’m speaking about the speed sweep / inside zone option that sprung Daje.
Any idea on why we’re not working that slant or with play action yet?
Do we just not want to put those on tape yet, don’t need it yet, or are we still “practicing” our base plays out of many formations?
by notsofst on Sep 13, 2025 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
I was just spitballing
there are literally dozens of things you can do once you establish running to boundary… especially with quick hitting plays. Harsin doesn’t seem to have any issues adding on the exclamation points to his base concepts, so not to worry there.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This was great.
- Stuff on Espinosa and the inside zone combo block decision making was a great point. Our default decision making when T and C are covered is for the guard to help on the nose. Espinosa really struggles with pad level when shotgun snapping.
- Check out Byndom’s tackle attempt on the Gautsche run. Ooof. Akina reamed his ass, I’ll bet.
- Nice thoughts on the possibilities of the Daje shovel sweep series. We’ve only shown one piece of it. We’ll also hand it to Malcolm, have Ash throw play action, and have Ash fake it to both and then roll. Should a great little series once it’s all complete.
- Once more thought on the dive play: Brandon Moore gets upfield penetration, but he does it turning his shoulders. That’s a no-no when you have dive responsibility. You want to penetrate, but not give angles that the back can slip behind. It’s as good a being blocked.
- Hawkins really gets after it as a down blocker.
by Scipio Tex on Sep 13, 2025 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
yeah
on Espinosa, it’s pretty damn hard to get your footwork going to split the defender when the guy is lined up right under you and you’ve got to get a clean pistol snap off. There’s just not a scenario when he should be trying to make all that happen at this stage, he’s gotta have help.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Espinosa
He definitely needs help there but he also needs to fire off once he snaps it. Maybe that’s too difficult but he tries to absorbs the DL instead of stepping to him and delivery a blow.
by Monahorns on Sep 13, 2025 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
It's really hard to fire off when you are snapping in a shotgun.
I’ve always assumed that was why outside zone seems to be much more effective out of the gun.
by The General on Sep 13, 2025 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Not when. After.
He snaps the ball. Stands there. Receives the contact. He doesn’t even shift his weight. I realize he can’t fire off and snap at the same time. What I am talking about is snapping. Then maybe even having a short pause. But then he has to engage.
by Monahorns on Sep 14, 2025 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
He does not stand there. He steps sideways like the rest of the offensive line,
and then he gets struck and goes backwards.
by The General on Sep 14, 2025 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok
I guess there is nothing much for him to do then.
But, if he has time to step sideways can’t he also shift his weight and deliver a strike of his own?
by Monahorns on Sep 14, 2025 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Packaged Plays
LS, have you seen the recent features and discussion by Chris Brown on Smart Football where he discusses packaged plays? The inside zone/bubble screen play really had the look of a “package” with Ash reading the nickel back that cheats in on the play.
Any idea if this is something Harsin is doing? I know that it could have just been a “fake” to pull that nickel back in, but the line blocked so effectively and Malcolm really looked like he thought he was getting the ball, which makes me think there was actually an option there. On the other hand, I’m not sure Harsin has that much confidence in Ash’s quick twitch brain muscles yet.
by Katfid54 on Sep 13, 2025 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
we package concepts all the time
the difference between what Chris Brown is talking about and what we’re doing is that Chris is mainly talking about plays that involve a post-snap read… which if done correctly theoretically always make the offense correct (just like the option). What we do is package ideas together that offer complementing pressures and then read alignment from the defense or tendency from film to decide what to run. I actually like what we do a little bit better because I think once you introduce reads too often into the offense, you can overload and slow your execution down a little. We still put the defense is a situation where they are forced to vary their response and get into guessing games which accomplishes a lot of the same goals and allows you to execute full speed.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
big point
I agree. I think these teams that want to package concepts with post-snap reads are really going to have to go all-in with these plays or they risk turnovers from hesitation and bad decision-making.
Sort of like the Air-Raid and other West-Coast influenced passing plays. You don’t want the QB firing to spots 50x per game unless you know that the players will be in the right spots.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 14, 2025 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Also I wonder how dependent you become
On an experienced QB who can make the right read. Look at the difficulties OSU is having with a new QB, when they don’t have a 45 y/o QB leading the team. It’s great when you have a junior or senior, but I’m wondering if you’re really going to suffer in the years when you’re inexperienced. Kinda like Texas after Colt left though maybe worse.
by texitect on Sep 14, 2025 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
nobis brought this up
I could not help, but smile when I saw Daje reaching for the ball at full speed and almost breaking a long gain. Then you show NM QB hitting the ball carrier on the back shoulder and Cobbs running him down. Just illustrates Nobis’s pt to a tea about how important leading that wr on the short throws is.
by codaxx on Sep 13, 2025 4:19 PM CDT reply actions
Couple questions
Scott, thanks again for this. Thanks to you, I’m counting linemen and reading the defense, instead of watching only the ball, which I did for most of my life.
1) What do you think of Ash’s ball handling? Your explication of the Daje touchdown made the defensive overload formation seem absurdly risky. So many options it left us. From watching other qbs, it seems like good ball fakes are so important for play actions and when we audible into different plays. Is ball faking taught strongly at Texas, by what you can see?
2) On the run play when Cobbs overcommits, it feels like he has enough quicks not to commit at all on the snap. Would it be good strategy for him to just wait a beat and thoroughly read the play before flowing in one direction?
Thanks,
JM
by Flodeth on Sep 13, 2025 4:27 PM CDT reply actions
Thoughts on fakes
It seems like all coaches teach fakes slightly differently, some want you to put the ball actually in the belly and then pull it (zone read and option actually requires this) others teach the fake with an open hand. Some don’t even care if your near the RB.
IMO the most effective ball fake is when the qb extends the ball with both hands, then just prior to the mesh point, the off hand (the hand that would not hand off the ball) pulls the ball back to the qb’s belly. The open other hand goes into the RB belly. Then, the absolute key to a good ball fake is for the QB to LOOK BACK AT THE RUNNING BACK called a head and arm snap. It’s like a magic trick people look where you look.
by texitect on Sep 13, 2025 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point on fakes
Was watching the NFL Rewind of the Redskins/Saints broadcast, and they were commenting on how well RGIII faked the ball. Indeed, he does that nice, bent over hiding of the ball when he turns to fake the handoff in play action. He really sells it, a point that seems to help buy maybe a second (at best). See a lot of qbs just go through the motion on play action (not necessarily Ash). But I guess I also know from watching LHS’s breakdowns that the defense is cueing on the action of the line more than watching the qb, so maybe it’s more of a big deal to fans like me than it actually is in the game.
by Flodeth on Sep 13, 2025 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
They should be getting keys from the line, but it is human nature to peak at the ball/ QB.
When defenders get caught peaking for the ball, is when offenses make big plays.
by The General on Sep 13, 2025 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
plays
I have seen plays where lineman pulling is actually the “fake” to keep sprint draw and screens have OL fake pass blocking to clear out the LBs. So like bball it is man ball
by codaxx on Sep 13, 2025 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Right. But those are constraint plays.
If you tried to base the offense around lineman running the wrong way, then you would suck.
I oversimplified up there and did not specify that I was referring to the front seven and specifically lb keys. Obviously, your keys are constantly changing, and lb’s have to key on different players based on alignment of both the o and d, but your first and best indicator is always the OL, then fullback/H back/TE, then flow is usually the hierarchy.
I don’t have a good handle on what DB’s are keying. Those pussies were always standing ten yards behind me yelling shit like sky and cloud like daydreaming butterfly chasers.
by The General on Sep 13, 2025 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn that made me laugh
A common key for DB’s is a high hat low hat read on the tight end (you can understand how easy this is to exploit though from the offensive standpoint). A fairly common offensive tactic is to have the tight end fall down and then get back up
by texitect on Sep 14, 2025 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Defenders' Keys
Defenders key on different things. Classically, LBs key on guards and fullbacks, but keys change based on defensive alignment and offensive formation. Players further away from the ball usually key less on OL steps and more on the general “flow” of the play overall. Also consider that, if a defense just keys on the same thing play in and play out, that’s easily exploitable by a semi-conscious OC.
For example, a classic technique to take care of LBs and DTs that key too well on guards is to pull a guard out to space to widen a LB and DT and then to trap the DT with the backside guard and kick out the widened LB.
by Katfid54 on Sep 13, 2025 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Harsin is
really good at picking up on what the defense’s keys are and punishing with gotcha calls. That naked toss to J. Gray was an example with New Mexico.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad you're counting...
that’s the first symptom of the disease.
1) Ash has looked pretty good in this regard. As I’ve said many times, Harsin is known for being a meticulous bastard… particularly when it comes to selling the defense. I imagine it’s an area he focuses on.
2) Seems to me like Cobbs in more comfortable closing inside out than outside in (which is pretty standard). I expect improvement but it is important that he develops as a force player. As an aside, Adrian Philips was pretty damn amazing against the run in the New Mexico game.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
to me
one of the biggest points from the New Mexico game was the play of Phillips and Vaccaro. I don’t think we’ve had a secondary that could clean up like this since 2005.
With Cobbs on the field most of the time the 12 unit is comparable to the 05 unit in nickel.
Even 09, with Aaron Williams and Earl Thomas, didn’t feature physical tackling and pursuit like this bunch. Pretty exciting, I think it’s going to make things very frustrating for spread offenses that feel like they’ve caught us a few times but then can’t capitalize with scoring plays.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 14, 2025 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Rather than keeping your outside shoulder free
linebackers/D ends are now frequently taught to “wrong shoulder” the trap or kick out block. (Essentially attack the upfield shoulder of the blocker and to make the runner take a deeper wider path. I’m not sure if that was what Edmonds was trying to do or not, It certainly looked like that’s what Okafor should have done on that last play.
by texitect on Sep 13, 2025 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
Literally anything from Okafor on that play would have been better than what he actually did.
by Katfid54 on Sep 13, 2025 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Classic Option Defense would dictate...
that the QB is Edmond’s responsibility on that play with Hicks having responsibility for the cutback on the dive. Cobbs most likely had pitch responsibility. That play probably resulted in several guys getting dressed down during the film session.
by Rex Interneti on Sep 13, 2025 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
right but
I think classic option play would have the qb read the d end, he was being blocked by the puller, so I dont know if taking the QB was necessarily an option
by texitect on Sep 13, 2025 6:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that's true and we actually spill
pretty liberally. technically that’s probably the coaching point there within our defense.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Tunes by Metric
I see what you did there. Nice.
I love these features.
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by windycityhorn on Sep 13, 2025 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
Harsin Quotes
I read some Harson quotes recently about how he is giving Ash more freedom in checking to a different play at the LoS. Did you see any examples of this happening with positive success? It sounds like the playcall options out of a single formation that you are referring to may become check-down options at the LoS.
Thanks for these analysis videos. They are great.
by Where'sWaldo on Sep 13, 2025 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
there were a number of plays
where you could see Ash change the play at the line. We have almost zero ability to evaluate that because we don’t know the original call :] The play where Ash almost threw a pick on the zone blitz was a check.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
As always,
thanks for doing this LS. I can’t state enough how much I look forward to your breakdowns.
One question. On the inside zone play where Espinosa gets pushed into the backfield, could you comment on why their DE #60 is able to run free to the RB as well? Was that by design and Espinosa’s fail resulted in Brown redirecting towards him? Or did someone on the right side of the line miss on something as well? Thanks.
by ophorn on Sep 13, 2025 4:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
On the backside of a zone blocking run it is common to leave the DE unblocked.
MB probably should have bounced that wide the other way towards Hawkins, though that would have been a tough play to make.
by The General on Sep 13, 2025 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
And we exploited that on Ash’s bootleg. The DE was crashing inside a lot of the night off of zone action. On Ash’s TD run, that allowed Ash to easily get out of the pocket. When they stopped crashing so hard inside, we exploited that, too, with Daje’s TD run.
That’s the fun thing about having an OC that’s looking for this stuff, when a D makes an adjustment, the OC comes back with the counter or constraint play.
by Katfid54 on Sep 13, 2025 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
It's actually a zone read play
and that’s why he’s unblocked.
by LonghornScott on Sep 13, 2025 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the replies.
Didn’t even pay attention that it was a zone read.
by ophorn on Sep 13, 2025 6:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Watching this
Definitely made sitting in traffic on the way to Austin more enjoyable. Thanks LS
Posted from my Ipod Shuffle
by Rizzolonghorn on Sep 13, 2025 5:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks, LHS!
And Scip and SR. You guys are killing it. Great stuff. Hugely helpful.
by tearaway20 on Sep 13, 2025 8:23 PM CDT reply actions
Very good.
I enjoyed the graphics. The production is getting shiny. I usually feel better about the team after watching these.
by Monahorns on Sep 13, 2025 8:32 PM CDT reply actions
Elucidating breakdown video
LHS:
You do realize these breakdowns are becoming addictive.
by Rio Lobo on Sep 13, 2025 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
When Demarco Cobbs
was all bathed in Jesus fire, I got pretty fired up.
by Scipio Tex on Sep 13, 2025 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
AND... it's here!
After searching (again) this morning, I’d all but given up on getting a LHS breakdown this week. I feared you’d run out of time and shifted your attention to Ole Miss.
Glad I was wrong. I thoroughly enjoy your analysis.
by Stiendam Hall on Sep 13, 2025 11:01 PM CDT reply actions
These just get better and better.
Also, Metric. Nice.
by Flipteach on Sep 13, 2025 11:21 PM CDT reply actions
Thoughts on the origins/development of the shovel sweep?
Great stuff as always. I hadn’t seen a sweep run exactly that way before (which isn’t saying a lot, as I am a total novice!), but I really liked the speed of flipping the ball to a player running in front of the QB as opposed to the under-center handoff version we often ran last year. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on where it came from and how Texas is using the play as opposed to other teams.
West Virginia destroyed Clemson in the Orange Bowl with a similar play last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gu62DFo9-w . A few of the variations you predict we’ll use also show up in that video, though I think I see a few differences in the way they run the play. First, please correct me if I’m mistaken, but they appear to typically use outside zone blocking for the sweep (though I see one inside zone version, I think). Second, they seem to block the sweep to the playside (while running sweep action to the opposite side for the dive variation), whereas we ran the sweep in the opposite direction from the line blocking. And third, they sometimes replace the FB with an extra receiver. I suppose in that situation the QB represents an alternate running threat while the RB is blocking (or they are just trading a passing threat for the dive threat)? I wonder if we plan on doing that as well.
Digging around on Google, it looks like Holgorsen lifted the play from the coach at the Colorado School of Mines: http://bruce-feldman.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/31626208/34204146
Do you see any advantages to the way Harsin is developing this play, or are there no real substantive differences, and this is just a case of Harsin seeing a useful concept at the Orange Bowl and installing it in our standard offense without relevant modifications?
by MajorTexasFan on Sep 14, 2025 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
Really good questions here.
To understand this we need to reorg a few thoughts first. When you look at a play like Daje’s TD, don’t think of it as a play in isolation or even one play in a series from that particular formation. Instead, think of it as a combination of concepts in a particular alignment. So really there are a number a levels to consider here.
Theoretical Goals
Attack the boundary with a concept that creates a leverage advantage through speed (in this case a speed sweep but it could also be a quick screen). Constrain this with a concept that will punish the defense for overcommiting to stop it (Inside Zone will find the short handed front if the defense is aggressively attacking the quick outside concept). Use alignment to limit responses and make the defense defend the whole field (wide alignment from the #1 receiver to the field). Finally, use motion to force the defense to communicate and adjust responsibilities to create favorable matchups for you offense concepts and encourage missed assignments from the defense.
Actual Concepts
Speed sweep with Inside Zone away. Note that this could have easily been power away or pin n pull away. The difference is that both the sweep and the inside zone have the potential to hit big in the boundary alley. With the defense running cover 3 a lot with their boundary safety initially pedaling toward the field to take his middle 1/3rd, there’s the potential for a big play. They happened to also be blitzing from the field which left them without a pot to piss in here.
Mechanics
This new little flip to the sweeper is just a solution for how to effectively get the ball to the sweeper from a pistol alignment. It’s not really a new play for us, just a new execution. I have read where a lot of high school coaches have been trying to come up with an elegant solution to this without slowing their sweep down too much or disruping the timing of their zone play. Seems that we worked on that and got it down.
Conclusion
The only significant different between this and the under center stuff is that from the pistol the zone read and power read are more readily available and Ash will be able to keep his eyes downfield more on play action. The read stuff is what really intrigues me because it would allow Texas to still create numbers advantages ever against a loaded box when combined with the speed sweeps.
by LonghornScott on Sep 14, 2025 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Other than QB sneak
what advantages are there in using under center QB alignment over Pistol? It seems to me that the initially innocuous pistol formation marries shotgun and under executions so well that it leaves little room for either to remain in high usage.
by Nickel Rover on Sep 14, 2025 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, very interesting thoughts
A few more questions, if it isn’t a bother.
1) So the bottom-line takeaway from that play, from a “what’s new” perspective given our use of the speed sweep to achieve some of these goals last season, is that we’ve added a quick flip to gain an extra split second and operate from the pistol to open up greater/easier possibilities with read plays and play action? And the differences between Harsin’s version and that run by West Virginia don’t necessarily represent innovations or inherent improvements in the play by Harsin, but rather are simply the result of importing the pistol and the forward flip into what we are already doing on the sweep. For example, Holgorsen’s theoretical goal might be stretching the field horizontally, which is why he runs it with outside zone to the field, whereas Harsin’s goal is to hit the boundary quickly, which is why we run it this way? Is that right?
2) When you mean the inside zone away challenging the boundary, do you mean on a cutback?
3) In the theoretical goals you mention, is the primary purpose to punish the defense on a subsequent playcall (by switching it up with a constraint play) or to punish/paralyze the defense on any particular playcall because of the multiple possibilities?
4) In the read plays you envision, who is being read, and what would the basic option generally be? Specifically, would the decision to hand off to the sweeper be based on a read of a particular defender, or would the sweep generally be a feint to manipulate the defenders, with the option actually being Ash deciding whether to hand it to the running back or keep it himself? Or all three options?
by MajorTexasFan on Sep 14, 2025 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
good conversation
1) Correct, these aren’t really innovations just different mechanics for the pistol and you hit on the key additions with the pistol. The main difference between pistol and under center is that in the pistol the QB is a little more protected and can be a more direct running threat. But a lot of the footwork and timing need to be rethought and reps to make plays work in the pistol. As nickel hints to above, i think the advantages of the pistol will make it more and more prevalent and supplant a lot of the under center concepts. The reason that WV uses it with OZ is because OZ is one of the blocking concepts their offense emphasizes. However they could just as easily run it with IZ… it depends on what they are trying to accomplish against that particular defense. OZ will give them a little more horizontal pressure but IZ is probably a little better at developing the cutback. I think you’ll see us pair the sweep with IZ, Power, & Pin N Pull at various points throughout the year.
2) Meant to say pressure toward field. But yes, the cutback on IZ also challenges the boundary and is probably the most likely place for the IZ to hit in this particular pairing. You could also run the IZ blocking in the same direction as the speed sweep and then it’s probably more likely to hit on the playside.
3) It’s both! That’s why its great. It’s precisely the idea of combining plays in series that build off each with theoretical play calling (as in isolating and attacking different areas of the field on a given play) that is at the heart of this sort of rapid fire concept based offense. There’s a lot of teaching skill required to build plays from the concepts from week to week. There’s also a lot of play calling skill required to identify tendency and situation and call the plays to take advantage.
4) Well the frontside or backside defensive end can be read on the Zone Read or the Zone Power. We also have run a straddled triple option in the past that would end up reading an OLB/Nickel. If we ran that version you’d see the Z receiver take a wide looping route in the backfield (called rocket motion)… we could also just run the rocket sweep (which we also did last year :] ). On a jet sweep, you wouldn’t read a defender post snap because it just hits too fast… so the defender wouldn’t have committed yet and it would be too difficult for the QB to ride with the hand-off long enough to get a good read.
by LonghornScott on Sep 14, 2025 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Zone Power
was a typo… meant to say Zone Read or Power Read. The zone read is on the backside defensive end and the power read is on the frontside. Just reread that sentence and realized it would be really difficult to understand what I was talking if you didn’t, in fact, already understand what I was talking about.
by LonghornScott on Sep 14, 2025 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
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