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Manny Diaz versus the Spread Offense

The offenses Diaz faced in the SEC were generally running-oriented and one of our biggest questions for him heading into the season is how he would handle the way Big 12 coordinators fling the ball around. What does a Diaz defense look like vs. the Air Raid? Or the Holgorsen adaptation? While the spread has made a stake in SEC country, it's usually been in the Meyer/Malzahn spread-option/spread-to-run vein.

Diaz's Fire Zone defenses are a simplified college version of what Dick Lebeau and Rex Ryan have been doing in the NFL to it's pro-style, running/play-action offenses. It's excellent for blowing up running games with 8 man fronts and TFLs while being safe against the play action pass. But the question was whether he could mimic something like what Rob Ryan did against the Patriots on Sunday and disrupt the modern passing game.

Well, Oklahoma State came out in a 4 Wide receiver set and we met them with this:

Press man-coverage on the outside receivers with Christian Scott and Kenny Vaccaro on the inside receivers. We played our normal DL, Okafor and Jeffcoat in 9-tech stances with Randall shaded over the center, minus a second tackle. Acho and Robinson played linebacker but in reality Acho was a standup 3-tech defensive tackle who blitzed almost every play. On this play OSU motioned out their tailback and Robinson followed him, leaving us with 4 defenders in the box and in an obvious man coverage.

I'm guessing that Diaz watched some tape of the Big 12 teams, the Aggy-OSU game and our own RRS in particular, then looked up at his "Stop the run, hit the quarterback!" bumper sticker plastered over a frame of Chris White tackling Cam Newton, sighed, invited Akina into his office and started drawing up some plays.

The bubble screen is basically a running play in this conference and OSU has demonstrated that it's more than a constraint in their offense, but most coaches don't treat it that way. Diaz did, so he schemed to take it away. Our game plan went like this:

- Match OSU's offensive strength with our own personnel. Diaz identified the passing game, particularly the quick game and screens, as their main strength. We played a ton of dime defense in this game and lined up predominantly as we did in the frame above. Diaz gave a huge middle finger to the OSU Zone running game with our alignments and gameplan and we nearly got away with it.

- Man Defense. We played a lot more of the Cover 5 that we showed some against OU with a few key differences. For one, Weeden and the OSU receivers could not beat us downfield like the Landry Jones and the Sooners could and we assumed that from the beginning. Blackmon is their one true deep threat and we handled that with Carrington Byndom. Our safeties, while playing as Cover 2 safeties, were clearly instructed to be very aggressive against the OSU short game, even at the risk of leaving Diggs or Byndom on an island against a fade route.

On the first play (from the frame above) they motioned their RB out and Robinson tailed him before immediately setting up a tunnel screen.

As the inside receiver heads out to block the corner, Phillips immediately diagnoses the play as the tunnel screen and responds before Weeden is even ready to deliver the ball.

Here we see him screaming downhill on the play and likely to reach the receiver not much later than the pass does.

This proves to be the case and OSU gets zero gain on the play. On second down they attempted a quick out to Cooper against the other side of the formation.

There are a few interesting factors at play here. One is that we have Gideon and Scott to the same side of our formation while Phillips and Vaccaro are teamed on the other. Against a spread offense that will pick apart your weaknesses relentlessly, I'm not sure why you would concentrate your slowest defenders like that. Another issue is that we have them on the same side as Cooper, who is probably the Cowboys' best underneath receiver besides Blackmon. Finally, I'm not sure if we get that much more out of Scott than we would from Hicks playing the same role. Scott's positive attributes, his physicality and experience, aren't as stark when compared to Hicks as opposed to a freshman corner in that position. On the other hand, it was a good way to employ Scott.

On the quick out in the play, Cooper gets separation from Scott fairly easily and would continue to do so the entire game.

As it turns out here, the pass is dropped and Cooper did minimal damage against this coverage catching 6 balls for 57 yards (37 on one play) for the day. Only five yards off the line, and after already bobbling the pass, Gideon arrives to land a shot.

Gideon played a solid game on the whole, making 6 hard-hitting tackles and playing with physicality and aggressiveness against the running game and underneath routes. Neither of the 2 long running touchdowns were really his fault, but we'll address that soon.

I suspect that OSU was completely unused to a team treating their screens and underneath game as the primary threat. Last year they ruined teams with their vertical passing game and zone runs with Kendall Hunter and mastered the 3-step drops and screens as constraints. I'm sure Deruyter was bewildered when taking away their running game and bracketing Blackmon failed to prevent their explosive output in the 2nd half of their game.

In the following series, the Cowboys tried to punish our aggressive safety play with a few fades to Blackmon and found that what used to be their strength couldn't get the job done.

They had just completed an out to Blackmon against tight coverage followed by a post to Anyiam that was punished by a hit from Gideon and then wanted to pick on our sophomore corner with their 1st round pick.

Because of our pass rush (on this play anyway), Weeden is locked in on Blackmon early.

In frame 2 we can see that we're in a Fire Zone and Byndom is a deep 1/3 defender. All our "hot" defenders are keeping the OSU receivers in front of them before breaking on the ball, which isn't always the case, but our deep 1/3 defenders will always play over the top. Weeden decides that he trusts Blackmon to go up and make a play, or he has no idea what's going on around him. Whatever the case...

he throws a pick to Byndom that is robbed by official review. To me it looked like Byndom's legs bounced and moved in such a way that you would have to determine that his right foot did in fact touch down on the turf before he fell on his stomach and he clearly had the ball controlled when the foot hit the ground.

My lead image is taken from Weeden's expression after this play, complete befuddlement, but they decide to attempt the same play again, perhaps confident that they won't get another Cover-3 Fire Zone.

Gideon drops into the box before the snap and initiates another blitz. While this isn't alarming in and of itself, it might have clued the Cowboys in that another fade to Blackmon would be running into deep defenders.

We can see here that it's too late and Weeden is keyed in on Blackmon with zero time to pursue other options with Okafor in his face.

It turns out that we were in Man Coverage, Cover 1 to be exact, and Byndom was responsible for defending the middle of the field against Blackmon in addition to the sideline routes. Blackmon made a double move to get outside but Byndom recovered and got his hands on the ball again before Blackmon knocked it loose.

Yet another Cover 1 blitz followed and Weeden misfired trying to find Blackmon on a post. While they managed to score 21 going into halftime, Weeden was having tremendous difficulty attacking our coverages with Byndom blanketing Blackmon and basically 4 safeties playing against their underneath game.

The final component of our game plan was to get pressure primarily with 4 pass rushers and then situationally with big blitzes or Fire Zones. It turned out that our only effective edge blitzers in the game were Phillips and Vaccaro as Gideon or Scott blitzes were generally stonewalled. Acho had 2 QB pressures and another 2 TFL playing a LB/DT hybrid-position that I think Diaz may have invented for him.

Superficial fans look at the lack of sacks and fail to recognize that we had Weeden throwing out of 3 day drops all day and only completing 56% of his passes. He's hitting 76% on the year and hit 78% vs. A&M, so he's demonstrated that he can shred teams doing this. They've been getting 8.6 yards per pass attempt on the year and we held them to 5.3 yards per attempt.

Superficial fans have also looked at our run defense at times this year and called for "more Edmond!" while ignoring what Acho and Robinson have done this season. We've just seen what Acho was asked to do in this game and his success, Robinson's assignment often required him to either defend 2 gaps in the running game or to play man coverage against the OSU running backs. In other words, "Robinson, try to make sure their running backs don't beat us in any phase of the game."

I believe that in OU's scheme Keenan Robinson could play Travis Lewis' role possibly better than Lewis himself. Against the Cowboys: he held their backs to 21 yards on 3 receptions, had 9 tackles all over the field, and led the Longhorn defense in giving up 212 rushing yards.

That last stat is the reason Edmond gets calls for playing time. However, this overlooks the impact a LB crew of Hicks and Edmond could accomplish next season compared to what Acho-Robinson offers us this year. Can either stunt and blitz like Acho? Can either play coverage like Robinson?

Maybe Edmond can be a LB/DT in dime and Hicks can handle Robinson's role or Hicks can stunt and Edmond can try and be run-game eraser/RB defender but I will be pleasantly surprised if our coverage isn't downgraded somewhat at linebacker next season.

Back to the gameplan. Ultimately OSU stayed ahead of us due to 3 mistakes on our part and then won the game on a play in which they finally figured out how to make us pay for attacking the short game with our safeties.

The obvious mistake was the kickoff return TD. Handing an offense like that 7 points was possibly our most egregious error.

The other two occurred near the goal line. In our first example, we line up in a 3-4 look and Acho and Robinson dance around and stunt at the line for an eternity before Weeden has decided how he will take advantage of their obvious blitz.

The blitz comes and we have soft coverage on their receivers hoping to force a useless short throw, get to Weeden, or get a turnover.

However, as a result of bringing so much pressure we've left Byndom on an island against Blackmon that spans half the field. They complete the post route and Blackmon uses his man-strength to drag Byndom into the end zone.

Next we get a short yardage situation nearing the red zone. They try and power in with Inside Zone but Gideon filled and prevented a first down, but they bet against us making that play a second time and make the call again.

They line up in a heavy set and we load up the box to meet them as safely as we feel we can without leaving Byndom entirely alone against Blackmon again.

Much like we saw in my Rice game stills, Hicks drifts outside to gaps that are already filled by stunting DL and leaves a large gap up the middle.

Gideon is the only one with a chance in pursuit and he's obstructed by Robinson's blocked body. Immediately on the sideline Diaz meets Hicks and makes clear who was in error on this play.

After all that we still had a chance at victory, until they found a way to finally punish our aggressive safety play and unleashed this play call:

Hicks is in for Acho as the stunting linebacker/3-tech with Vaccaro and Scott in their usual places over the slot receivers. OSU is in the pistol formation.

It's an inside zone call with Randall getting doubled and the left guard and left tackle sealing off Hicks and Jeffcoat in their normal pass-pursuits, which will not be productive to stopping the zone run. The successful doubling of Randall guaranteed a positive run but it's likely that he was anticipating a pass. Robinson is the only one with a chance to blow up the hole in the left A gap unless someone comes off a block.

All of that is really mostly irrelevant though. By using the 3-2-6 dime front we surrendered some gains in the running game and OSU had declined to take them because they knew that we could prevent scores from the running game by getting TFL with our blitzes. What made this play so important was the play of the wide receivers. The outside receivers to either side are looking for the tunnel screen pass while the inside receivers are running outside as though to block the corners.

In order to have an impact against the OSU screens and short game our Safeties have been attacking based on reads of the wide receivers, Robinson is now the primary obstacle to a big gashing run up the middle and rather than aggressively filling the gap he's allowed the center to reach him and tries to fend off the OL.

Some of our defensive backs are still unaware that the play will not actually be a wide receiver screen and Robinson has effectively been sealed off from the running lane. Unless he can get around the block or Jeffcoat can make a diving play there will be an enormous hole in the middle of the defense.

Neither of those dreams materialize and Gideon is only now turning his hips to attempt to run down the back. Check out the following angle of the enormous hole opened up:

From here you can see the enormous gap in the run defense AND how hard our safeties bit on the WR screen action. There is no one on the field with a reasonable chance at catching the running back. You can attempt to blame Gideon's athleticism if you like but neither Vaccaro nor Phillips came any closer and I doubt Earl Thomas could have made the tackle from that angle.

The reality is that OSU found a way to punish us for playing that scheme on them all day and they possess an offense that can stress a defense a several different ways. Bob Stoops is probably cursing us for forcing them to find answers for that attack plan in the misdirection game but the answers were there.

It's interesting that both Muschamp and Diaz came to Austin and ended up employing more man-coverage schemes than they had at previous stops. I suspect this is in part due to Akina's prowess in teaching man-coverage and also in the difficulty in teaching zone and employing it effectively enough to handle Big 12 offenses with young defensive backs. Ultimately schemes like Cover 5 or Muschamp's Cover- man are brutal for Big 12 passing games but they require turnovers and big plays from the safeties and excellent DL play to get the same kind of turnovers that a zone can offer.

Diaz has now demonstrated that he knows how to take advantage of the man-coverage Corner factory here, that he understands the importance of taking away the quick game and the screen game, and that he can create pressures in nickel and dime defenses.

Those are really the most important tests for a Texas defensive coordinator facing today's Big 12. The fact that he also has an great resume for blowing up downhill and spread running games doesn't hurt either.

Other quick notes:

-Todd McShay tweeted that he was "underwhelmed" by Kheeston Randall's game tape while reviewing defensive tackles in the draft class. Given that Todd McShay thought Gerald McCoy was a better DT prospect than Ndamukong Suh I'm inclined to dismiss this.

Randall does need to demonstrate some pass-rush acumen since most teams would be looking at him as a 3-4 end or 3-tech defensive tackle and he hasn't wowed as a pass-rusher. Pass-rush is what garners the big bucks in the NFL today. However, his ability to fight double teams shouldn't be overlooked. I think he could even play nose-tackle in a 1-gap pressure scheme.

- Getting 2 more years from Byndom is starting to look more and more unlikely. He's been beaten on a deep route by Kenny Stills, in which he bit on a pump fake, and he was beaten once by Blackmon while on a lonely island and only gave up 74 yards on 7 receptions from the best receiver in the league.

If we weren't cranking out NFL corners so regularly this might be a major concern since 2013 is looking pretty good for us. I'm pretty confident that Diggs, Phillips, Turner and whomever else will be premier shape by then though so we should be okay.

- David Ash undoubtedly learned some valuable lessons saturday. He handled a dumbed-down version of the Colt McCoy offense at times and proved he has the necessary athleticism to keep himself upright and dangerous in the spread sets despite our weak pass-protection.

I'm not sure what his ceiling is as far as accuracy and reading defenses but I suspect that by 2013 Ash to Shipley and Davis might be comparable to what OU or OSU is doing right now in their passing games, which is championship level offense. Except, we'll also have a power running game and possibly both Jonathan Gray and Malcolm Brown.

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Great write up. Still having horrible replays of Hicks hitting the wrong gap and Gideon screwing the pooch as well.

Young team but the experience they are getting now will pay itself off. 8-4 9-3 looking realistic.

by STLaw on Oct 20, 2025 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank God! Longhorn football talk!

Thanks for the explanation on the 2 TD runs. I saw that Hicks should have made the play on the first one, but hadn’t seen the problem with the 2nd.

by Monahorns on Oct 20, 2025 11:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Sweet. 2013. Texas will be unstoppable. Obama will be retired. The stock market will double and my wife will decide its time for a open relationship. Looking forward to the utopia.

by John Galt on Oct 20, 2025 11:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Color me superficial, but I can’t tell from reading this whether you think Manny called a good game or not. You seem to be trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear on the two TD runs and the play where Byndum was left all by his lonesome on Blackmon for the TD was a major fuck up. That play and others look like a team that is so desparate to make a big play that they are willing to bet the house on it and then don’t even come close to delivering. How about just playing some freaking straight defense once in a while? I’m sure I’m showing my ignorance, but everything we do seems to have an odor of all or nothing to it. I love blitzing as much as the next guy, but running headlong into the closest available OL isn’t what constitutes blitzing, IMO.

Keenan Robinson clearly, to me at least, ran up into the line on TD #2 and failed to even notice the RB until he was by him and Gideon for some reason hauled ass into a pile of his teammates before the ball was snapped on the play side. These are four year starters! Hicks in in his first year as a starter. I’ll admit I’m confused and just leave it at that.

Obviously, the staff doesn’t believe we have any depth at LB or safety. Too bad!

Byndom, Kenny V, Phillips and Diggs are excellent players, BTW.

by Jake Lonergan on Oct 20, 2025 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice breakdowns. I figured some of the 4 4th down plays would get probed.

OSU 4th and 9, 2 plays before the touchdown pass to Blackmon. Blitzed here too, pass to Blackmon.
OSU 4th and 1. TD. Well documented
UT 4th and goal. Fozzy needed NFL down by contact rules.
UT 4th and 2. 5 wide. Pass to Shipley tipped.

On the long TD run, was Gideon lined up on Blackmon’s side? I’m trying to understand why he was out on the numbers.

by ultralight on Oct 20, 2025 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Much to think about, NR. So much, I’m hitting the sack and plan to read it all again in the morning. I’m with Jake. I think I have a few queries on where this all leaves us.

by OldTimeHorn on Oct 21, 2025 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Seeing as it is Thursday — I had prepared myself for a “monday in the humidor” segment and fired up a Romeo y julieta reserve maduro AND a Cohiba…but alas, it still didn’t show up. Sigh. Jesus — why have you foresaken us?

In any case, great write up — I know I speak for everyone when I say that your write-ups are truly enlightening. Is there any way that these can count towards masters or PhD credit?

by RIVALWEAR on Oct 21, 2025 12:17 AM CDT reply actions  

On a completely unrelated topic (and I apologize if this derails the thread), but I was trolling texags earlier tonight, and they are seriously contemplating what will happen WHEN they go 10-2. Somehow, they seem to think that they’ll jump over both OU and okiest, even with the assumption that both teams go 11-1. Truly delusional.

by RIVALWEAR on Oct 21, 2025 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Top-notch analysis sir! This is exactly why we can’t dump Diaz after just a few months on the job. I think he is going to get it. That said, I would love to get a little more analysis on how OSU managed to control our front 3-8 plus stunts to keep the pocket as calm as a baby nursery — are we truly that out-manned up front?

by zzzizzzy on Oct 21, 2025 12:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Jake: Manny has a fairly aggressive approach that he tempers with a degree of risk-averse deep coverage. When you see guys flying at the line on 4th and 1 that’s about 2 things: One is that it’s 4th and 1 and we are expecting a run, another is that the Diaz run defense is about building a wall.
Because of the stunts, you want the linebackers to aggressively fill gaps that they aren’t lined up in. If all of them do that except one, big trouble like we saw with the Hicks TD. If Hicks is just in the right place though it’s a safe play.

I think the staff loves our depth at safety and linebacker and we take out our starters more than many other teams.

Oldtimehorn: How’s it been going? I’m pretty pleased with how we played against OSU. We had a few schematic gaffes and a few schematic defeats but we played that passing offense better than anyone else in the last 2 years. As we develop our DL’s pass rush (see the humidor) and our younger safeties I think we can expect to see some greatness on defense. Diaz has really absorbed Akina’s excellent man-defense into his schemes well.

RivalWear:
Aggy is as deluded as ever. The odds of them beating OU in norman after winning last year in college station are at about 15% in my book. Not sure what Huckleberry’s stats say but I don’t ever bet against Venables and Stoops gameplanning at home, in a revenge/statement game, against a coach like Sherman and a QB like Tannehill.

ziizizzizzizy: I don’t think OSU handled our pressure that spectacularly, they just got the ball out quickly. We continue to not get a ton of sacks or pressures but opposing teams continue to not really test our pass-rush much.

Ultralight: Gideon was on the boundary side, Blackmon was on the field side. We generally kept Scott and Gideon on the boundary side where there was less ground to cover, which I suppose answer my own question of why they were played where they were played.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 6:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Re , David Ash running a dumbed down version of Colts offense. Considering thats what David ran in high school, it is logical to help him along in the passing game by running plays he is already comfortable with.

by 55f100tx on Oct 21, 2025 6:21 AM CDT reply actions  

55f100tx: I don’t know how some of y’all come up with your handles, good point about Ash’s college offense, didn’t know that detail. He has a similar skill set to Colt with a stronger arm.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 7:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Great stuff. Thanks.

I’m no expert, so I may be spouting silliness here. Consider this all a rambling question.

I know people like sacks, but does the stat really indicate much? Look at Alabama. While they habitually lag the FBS field in sacks, they seem to lead the FBS field in QB bodybags. Force the offense to get the ball out quickly, get a hit on the QB if he takes anything deeper than a 3-step. Isn’t that the new model?

While any new gig/conference is going to involve a learning curve, I just have a hard time believing that a DC who was successful in Starkville is going to struggle in Austin. The risks/rewards with the Diaz schemes seem fine to me. I prefer 11 guys attacking with discipline. Yes, we got chewed up by two teams with exceptional talent and experience, but I honestly expected as much with everyone on our side still in a steep learning curve.

I like where I think the D is heading. Am I alone in that?

by G.O.F. on Oct 21, 2025 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Nickel rover…. I don’t know 55f100tx but here goes nothing.
55f100tx= ( I’m taking a guess at this one)
1955 f(ord) 100 (series) pickup
Neat trucks …. mine was a 1955 baby blue stepside F-100 with a 292 V8. I think ford called it columbia blue like the houston oilers columbia blue. Wish I still had mine… I imagine it would look sweet painted burnt orange with orange/white roll and tuck interior.
FYI

by jet on Oct 21, 2025 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Jet: Ah, I see. I drive a Corolla. I’m more of a pragmatist when it comes to cars and I’ve never needed a pickup.

G.O.F: Great thoughts and I’m in agreement. Some of you might remember that I had a distaste for Diaz’s stated philosophy and strategy when he signed on here. I preferred someone who could get our talent lined up in sound schemes and make teams beat us. I did a bunch of research into Diaz to write my “Longhorn Kickoff” piece and started to change my mind a little. Now I’m totally sold. The way he has modified his schemes to employ his underlying strategy against Big 12 offenses proves that he gets it.

I don’t think he faced anything in the SEC as potent as what OU or OSU attacked us with the last few weeks but he’s adapting quickly.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

You can’t discount the fact that our offense put enormous pressure on our D. They had to line up for a lot of plays as we only had 2 sustained drives in the first 3 quarters. If we were up or even within one score most of the game, I imagine Diaz could have called a slightly less aggressive game, much like we saw before OU. Two games with the D under pressure not only because they are facing experienced, explosive offenses, but also two weeks in a row of having our own offense not keeping them off the field, and I can’t really hold Diaz any more accountable than I do Harsin and the O, who are trying to make do with a lot of inexperience and an OL without the talent to pass protect.

by Ricky on Oct 21, 2025 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

The numbers against OSU’s passing game are totally convincing to me that Manny knows exactly what he’s doing. Unfortunately for us, we had some mistakes (how many practices in this system? Not many, overall), and OSU is not your run-of-the-mill offense. OSU is pretty damn good, and they have good coaches.
NO,SIR!! Where we lost this game was definitely not the defense. It was our inability to produce anything like a competent passing game to complement our excellent running. The offense has a lot farther to go than the defense, which is usually the case, but is exaggerated this year by the particular balance of personnel issues.
As for the kick return allowed…Not good, but offset by Fozzy’s answer, so back to passing woes.

by lurkerinthedark on Oct 21, 2025 8:24 AM CDT reply actions  

lurker and ricky, good points. Lurker, about the kickoff, we absolutely need to be winning special teams’ battles every week for a few reasons:

1). Our offense still isn’t very good and we need all the points we can get
2). special teams is a place where our superiority in number of scholarship athletes should manifest itself. If we don’t have dominant special teams we are wasting an enormous chunk of our strategic advantage.

We shouldn’t be trading special teams points with teams if we want to win 8 games and shock Aggy.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Ricky,

We dominated time of possession in the first half and for the game.

The problem with our offense seems to be that they have to take a lot of plays to move the ball and eventually a mistake, penalty or tfl stalls them in a second or third and long. I think defenses from here on out will try to do to us what Manny tries to do to other teams. Take risks with our anemic downfield game to hammer us into a play with no gain. We suck if we have to go more than five yards for a first.

by RomaVicta on Oct 21, 2025 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Roma: While it is a much more intellectual and purposeful than most of it’s sisters, the Harsin offense is indeed much closer to the pro-style and run-based offenses that Diaz’s fire zones excel in stuffing.

Prevent deep coverage combined with a front designed to get TFL’s and pressure. You have to be able to get long runs and the intermediate game going to beat it.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey nickel … take into consideration that Manny is using a bunch of freshman /sophomore at key skill spots and I’d say I’m happy with where we’re at to date.
I said we’d win 9/10 games before the season started and we’d not loose after november 1st so it’s looking like 10 wins.

In regard to the pickup truck thing….. I think it goes back to having a “bed” handy… heh heh heh

by jet on Oct 21, 2025 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Nickel,

Just a quick thanks for another in a long series of illuminating, educational breakdowns. Since access to your analyses is free, that means the readers’ ROI is infinite. Yeah, I’d call that a decent value proposition.

by Dmitri Kissov on Oct 21, 2025 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Dmitri: you are most welcome.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

NR – thanks. The dual fake WR screens was just a great play call against what Diaz was doing.

My questions with Diaz’ call.
1. Initial wide alignment of the 2 deep safeties.
2. Deep safeties ignoring the backfield action and charging forward to help with the potential screens. Basically end up with 3 players committed to stopping 2 on both edges and leaving 5 on 5 blocking in the middle.

by ultralight on Oct 21, 2025 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

ultralight: Good thoughts and Mack and Diaz mentioned them both in their press conference.

1). Wide alignment: we were sold out to stop the short/screen game. Up till this point OSU hadn’t really successfully punished us for it.
2). OSU didn’t really employ much misdirection in the game before this. I think for 2 reasons: one is that misdirection is usually a tactic to use with zone defenses rather than man where many of the defenders aren’t paying attention to your fakes anyways. Another is that a lot of misdirection requires time in the pocket to execute. OSU wasn’t getting that unless they wanted to take receivers off the field and bring in TE’s and backs.

You could tell we were ready to live with the consequences of 5 in the box until they figured out how to get rid of our safety help as well. After that we switched to 4-2-5 nickel but the game was already over so I don’t know how that would have played out.

Back in 08 Muschamp opened up in dime vs. Tech and they ran all over us so we had to go back to nickel or drop Gideon into the box before the snap. That’s always the key with the Air Raid. You can sell out to stop the pass and they may or may not yield and run the ball.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

NIckel -

On the fourth and 1 TD play, what was Blake doing running up on Robinson’s back? I’m not saying he misplayed it, it just seemed to be a strange reaction. It wasn’t an aggressive move toward the line, but it was enough to take him out of the play once the RB crossed the LOS.

by A-Tex Devil on Oct 21, 2025 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

A-Tex Devil: there was another running crease in the C-gap that I think he wanted to maintain before coming back to the cutback lane. You can see it in the frame that has the view from behind the QB. He did get too close to the line but that same aggressiveness prevented a first down on the previous play. Also, if the Mike gets blocked into the safety you would normally not start with the safety in assigning blame.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

We were about 5-6 plays away from beating a legit top 5-10 team. I can deal with that. It’s frustrating given the consistency of winning that we’ve become accustomed to, but we’re on track. I was quite pleased with how well we shut down that potent passing attack and the emergence of Byndom at corner with Diggs getting some snaps playing deep. Beyond ATM, I’m not sure there’s another team left on the schedule that will require us to play on such a knife’s edge of perfection to win. We’ll see how many other teams hold OSU to 29 offensive points by the end of the year.

I think what Manny is learning, and what we already know, is that Akina can’t teach a competent zone to save his life. It’s not his thing. That’s fine. He has some talent and youth issues this year, but I don’t recall us really doing it well even with our better secondaries.

KSU and ATM will punish us if we don’t get our run fits figured out, and the lack of production from our defensive line is frustrating as well. Seeing Rak, Kindle, Miller, and Melton destroying pockets is still too freshly imprinted in my mind. I think that perhaps your best point was that teams still refuse to do much beyond the quick passing game against us. That speaks volumes.

Nice article. Harsin and Diaz are doing just enough well to tease an expectant fan base, but the extreme limitations placed upon them by the sloth of some current and former staff members makes the lack of immediate performance palatable for most.

by Bobby_Batronic on Oct 21, 2025 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

NR,

What’s it going to take for us to develop LB’s that consistently understand their gap responsibilities, have the ability to get there, and have the ability to cover RB’s in space? Are these skills mutually exclusive? Is it simply a product of inexperience in the new defensive system? I’ve come to terms with our coverage LB’s giving up a few yards when they make tackles, but the mental lapses bother me and I seem to recall them being common last year as well. We absolutely have depth at LB, but we need to find a game-changer there, particularly since we don’t have any depth along the DL.

by texasengr on Oct 21, 2025 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

NR,

I don’t care what Vasherized says about you, that was an outstanding write up.

by The General on Oct 21, 2025 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Great piece, Nickel Rover. I definitely agree with you that the main story line of the defensive side of the ball for this game was how we adjusted with our gameplan and learned from the OU game (in fact I would even argue we learned and reacted during the OU game). We used press and the threat of press to directly address their quick game and take away their easy yardage/big upside plays with screens. We paired that with pressure concepts to help mitigate the other big danger in their passing game: late breaking inside routes off of 5+step drops.

Unfortunately we did have to give up a significant amount in our run support to make that happen. At times with our pressures and so few in the box we openly invited OSU to gash us. I think with Gideon the argument isn’t so much about could he have made some of the tackles from where he aligned, it’s if he had better range / ability to close then he could have aligned in better spots for our defense. He was not the primary culprit on some of the run issues we had but his alignments were a significant contributing factor.

On the 4th and 1, it’s fairly complicated to assign blame. On the one hand the play is clearly there for Hicks if he attacks the backside A gap one the OC commits to sealing Robinson. On the other hand, the lead blocker on the play is going outside and our force player is DB: that play could have easily bounced outside. When you combine that with the knowledge from Diaz that there was supposed to be a stunt between Dorsey and Hicks and Dorsey was supposed to get across the guard into the A gap. Those two factors make it hard to put it completely on Hicks even though in a broken world you’d hope he makes the instinctual play on the ball carrier. This is where Gideon’s alignment is in question… why was he brought down in a linebacker alignment in that set? I get going for the TFL, but I don’t know if I agree with taking away the 3rd level of the defense there… especially when you are stunting liberally in the front.

Overall, I was left wondering what would have been possible if we have played more nickel but still went with wide alignments from our safeties. We may have gotten torn up by the slots rather than giving up the run busts. If we are going to short our front that much, we have to play extremely disciplined up front and that takes away from our ability to pressure somewhat. The ideal solution of course would be to go with the same gameplan but to have the range from the safety positions to be able to align closer to the seams. Regardless, I saw definite progress and Byndom/Phillips played huge games.

by LonghornScott on Oct 21, 2025 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

That’s awesome work, Nick. Terrific breakdown of what we wanted to accomplish schematically. There is a hell of a lot to get excited about with this defense and this DC – the ability to rebound from a gut-wrenching blowout to have this level of success in disrupting OSU’s bread and butter is really strong work.

We had to make a bit of a devil’s bargain as you point out in what we did to disrupt their pass game, and it wouldn’t have bitten us much at all if not for Hick’s brainlock on one play and some regrettably slow recognition on the other. Byndom’s game seems even better in retrospect, and I’m really excited to see what he can do against Fuller on Turkey Day. On the TD he gave up I just didn’t like the fact that he was giving up inside leverage if he was indeed not supposed to have any help on the interior. I always bias towards playing inside leverage and forcing the tougher throw with the sideline as your friend if you’re truly on an island with no help inside or behind.

by nobis60 on Oct 21, 2025 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

General: ha!

LS: Even if Dorsey failed in his assignment the ideal is for Hicks to read that and fill the necessary gap. Regarding Gideon, We had a safety and a corner devoted to making sure Blackmon didn’t turn that play into a touchdown so it makes sense that Gideon would be closer to the line to give us a numbers advantage.

I wish we had played more 3-3-5 nickel myself and rotated between Scott and Hicks as the 3rd linebacker although that probably wouldn’t have solved any of the TD plays I diagrammed.

The trouble with the 4-2-5 is it keeps us from employing our best pass-rusher, Acho, unless we want to send a DL into coverage or blitz. Also we have to take Scott off the field.

I think Diaz’s plan makes a lot of sense we just failed to execute a few times against one of the best offenses in the country. Maybe 4-2-5 nickel works if we had a Brian Orakpo or our secondary were more experienced.

Nobis: I think you’re right about inside leverage on that TD but my main point was that it was a nearly impossible assignment and we asked if of a guy who had already done better than was reasonable to expect against Blackmon.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for this. Am I reading correctly that you expect to see more of Edmund in, say, the KState game where he’s maybe a better fit against the offense they run; but that you don’t expect he is where he needs to be to help with spread? Also, I don’t know if the schedules have been locked already for next year; but given the general consensus about progress between OU and OKState, is there a chance we play a similar back-back next year but flip the order?

by tx2step on Oct 21, 2025 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

tx2step: I would expect to see more of Edmond in every instance, but yeah, definitely the KSU game. His conditioning, they say, has kept him out of games against fast-paced opponents that can play games to trap out of shape defenders on the field.

I think he’ll play a valuable role against the spread in the future as a defensive end if not as a Mike linebacker. He actually looks pretty quick, I don’t really know what he’ll turn into here but I’m pretty sure it will be awesome.
I don’t know how the schedule works for next year but hopefully we don’t have to do this again. Especially if OSU comes even sooner on the schedule.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Good point Roma about the time of possession. While watching the game it certainly didn’t seem like we dominated the ball. I have a feeling we didn’t run many more plays than OSU did, but instead of passing and stopping the clock with incompletions and first downs as OSU did, we were running the ball and generally getting first downs after two or three plays with the clock running a lot more. Either way, the score seemed to dictate a more aggressive and risky D than we saw when we were in close games or in blow outs.

by Ricky on Oct 21, 2025 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Ricky -

OSU ran a total of 68 offensive plays; we ran a total of 89. I think I remember reading that coming into last week’s game OSU was averaging close to 90 offensive plays per game. Their yard total was 420; ours was 370. They punted 6 times; we punted 7.

As others have noted, the stat line for this game indicates a much closer game that the scoreboard, which I think is indicative of a) our red-zone problems and b) the two TD runs that Nickel breaks down in the post.

by tx2step on Oct 21, 2025 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

For all our former conference partners that accuse us of running the conference to our benefit, we get screwed almost every year on the scheduling. I don’t think OU has ever faced even this sort of gauntlet much less the one we almost successfully ran in 2009. It always seems like we end up with back-to-back or back-to-back-to-back games against the best teams in the conference and yet I struggle to think of any season where OU faced a top ten team right after playing us, much less facing two other top 10 teams in a row.

by Ricky on Oct 21, 2025 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

One thing i was thinking about on that 4th and TD play, that i haven’t seen mentioned, is that there was less than 50 seconds left in the half, and therefore, it wasnt completely necessary to sell out to try and stop the play.

Anyone have thoughts on that?

by RIVALWEAR on Oct 21, 2025 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

RivalWear: that’s a pretty good objection. I think it would be fair to argue that our aggressive call there and when we put up only Byndom between Blackmon and the end zone were overly-risky calls.
Diaz is at his best when he plays for TFL while still leaving his defense a safety net.

by Nickel Rover on Oct 21, 2025 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

tx2step, I just went to ESPN to count them! I came up with 88 to 69. In the fourth quarter we ran 25 plays and they ran 13, so that was most of the difference at the point where the game was their’s to lose. When the game was in doubt we were pretty even on total plays ran even though we dominated the time of possession. They only had 53% of our time of possession but ran 78% of our number of plays.

by Ricky on Oct 21, 2025 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought Manny was rather mild in his reaction to Hicks as Hicks came off the field after the td run. Certainly not a Boom reaction.

by g'69 on Oct 21, 2025 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

If a guy blitzes every down, almost always from the same place, it is not a blitz.

“Because of the stunts, you want the linebackers to aggressively fill gaps that they aren’t lined up in. If all of them do that except one, big trouble like we saw with the Hicks TD. If Hicks is just in the right place though it’s a safe play.”

Maybe it is a safe play or maybe the back runs through Hicks and it is still a big play. This approach (when not at the goal line) makes no sense to me because it is super vulnerable to the big play. It is not a fault tolerant approach. Why take such a risk when the offense is on their own 25 yard line? Much better to keep the relatively small, light LBs free to run and make a tackle than to get them ensnared with the big OL who are much bigger and stronger than the LB. Manny coaches the LBs so I guess they are doing what he wants. It is not easy for an LB to make a tackle at the LOS and nearly impossible if the LB is blocked by an OL. Better for the LB to stay in space, keep his pursuit angles clear, and stay clear of OL blocks.

When they did play dime (which I agree with), would it have been possible to play zone or at least some zone concepts? It would have made run support by the DBs much, much more effective. I realize teaching man is Akina’s thing but if you are going to gamble up front, it is really hard to support the run from the secondary when you are in man because your back is turned to the play.

In general I don’t agree with the super aggressive tactics to stop the short passing game. You need a superb D to take that approach and the horns are not there yet. Better to play more zone (or zone concepts), hit them hard when they catch the ball to try to force a fumble or drop. Hold them to a field goal in the red zone where the D has the advantage. Don’t give up the big play. Don’t bite on the fakes. It is awesome to blitz but zone blitz so that the net of the guys playing back is the same.

If you put 8 men in the box and can’t stop the run with those 8 guys, you are in big trouble.

Blackmon deserves a lot of credit for the success on the big run since he drew 2 defenders away from the run.

by Kafka on Oct 21, 2025 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I understand the rationale, which I would characterize as….

If you believe in a scheme, you teach it and rep it. But if you’re constantly pulling back in your scheme to account for athletic deficiencies or for learning curve issues, then you’re in constant short-term gain/long-term loss mode.

OU and OSU 2011 are about as good as a B12 offense gets – or any offense, for that matter. If you scrap your schemes, or adjust them radically enough, to compensate for talent gaps and learning curves, you’re wasting two weeks of practice and admitting that you don’t believe in either the kids or the scheme (perhaps both) down deep.

In other words, I get it. Take away what an offense is most comfortable doing and make them execute something different. No different than making a shooter in basketball launch from the spots you choose instead of the ones he wants. If he makes them, good for him.

by G.O.F. on Oct 21, 2025 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Certainly not a Boom reaction.

Getting this attached to someone who’s married is not healthy. In fact you should seek professional help.

by Blaze Pascal on Oct 21, 2025 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Kafka,

We mixed in plenty of zone in the game plan and our fire zones are a zone blitz. I think that addresses two of your paragraphs.

How many you need in the box relates to how many they have in the box. 8 in the box is the common water mark because the traditional pro sets have two backs and a tight end. But if the offense is in big personnel then 8 in the box is light.

by LonghornScott on Oct 21, 2025 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

" Acho had 2 QB pressures and another 2 TFL playing a LB/DT hybrid-position that I think Diaz may have invented for him."

While some may see this use of Acho as creative, it seems like Diaz is asking him to do something that he really isn’t built to do. Having Acho who I’m guessing is probably 230 lbs take on an offensive lineman one on one just isn’t the best use of his talents IMO. Now if this was Donte Hightower from Alabama who is probably 265 lbs then I could understand it. The same could be said for having Christian Scott and Blake Gideon performing too much man to man coverage on guys that they just flat out can’t cover. To me you have to build a scheme around what your pieces can do well.

I wish Diaz would quit trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak and play more of a conventional defense.

by dudoo on Oct 21, 2025 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Scott,
“How many you need in the box relates to how many they have in the box. 8 in the box is the common water mark because the traditional pro sets have two backs and a tight end. But if the offense is in big personnel then 8 in the box is light.”
 
You also have to factor in what yard line you are on and how aggressive/conservative you want to be re: stopping the run. If you are not on the goal line, you want to have at least one safety deep and better two. The safety(s) can always come up for run support but stays back initially to protect against big plays. That is why they are called safeties. You also probably want to keep your LBs clear to make plays. You don’t necessarily have to match the offense with numbers in the box unless you are really aggressive about stopping a run for no gain. BTW, it is really difficult to match numbers in the box if you are double covering one WR.

“We mixed in plenty of zone in the game plan and our fire zones are a zone blitz. I think that addresses two of your paragraphs.”

Not really. Gideon said after the game that on at least one of the long runs, the DBs were in man even though Manny were putting everybody in gaps in the box. That is unnecessarily risky. People who think of football abstractly (rather than from a player perspective) and ignore all the screwups and missed/defeated assignments that happen in real, chaotic football tend to have unrealistic expectations for player performance. There are good reasons not to commit LBs to gaps and to keep safeties back. If you are going to be very aggressive against the run, your secondary needs to be prepared to support the run (i.e. not have their backs turned to the play).

A DC has safe ways to confuse an offense. He can change his defense very frequently, he can disguise his defense, he can zone blitz. None of these things are risky but they are confusing and effective.

by Kafka on Oct 21, 2025 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Great point, dudoo. A lot of fans (and commentators and maybe even coaches sometimes) over emphasize the importance of the abstract scheme. Way more important in the real world of football is understanding matchups and using schemes and plays that exploit those matchups and hide your own weaknesses. It is absolutely critical to put your players in a position to succeed while they are playing within their abilities. The coach can’t ask them to do something beyond their abilities and expect them to reliably succeed.

by Kafka on Oct 21, 2025 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Nickle Rover JET has my handle figured out, that pickup is my hobby outside of back seat coaching the Longhorns and grandkids. Burnt Orange would be a cool color, mine is seamist green at the moment.

by 55f100tx on Oct 21, 2025 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Kafka,

Regarding having a safety on the goaline calls:
Please re-read my first post in the thread. I think you are confused about my position on the issue.

Regarding zone defense in the game:
66 defensive calls, 20 of which were zone calls. It’s grating when people speak in absolutes particularly when it conflicts with the facts.

“A DC has safe ways to confuse an offense. He can change his defense very frequently, he can disguise his defense, he can zone blitz. None of these things are risky but they are confusing and effective.”
You do understand that those are precisely the things we have been doing very frequently this year, right?

by LonghornScott on Oct 21, 2025 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

dudoo: Your concerns are answered by 2 facts: One is that Acho did a fantastic job playing a stand-up 3-tech DT. If we had him with his hand in the dirt trying to defend against the run that might have been a poor idea but in the pass-rush shooting gaps it was very effective. He even beat double teams at times.
As far as asking Scott and Gideon to play man-coverage: We didn’t have Gideon play man-coverage at all. The only time he’s played anything even like Man-coverage is picking up deep receivers in Zone at the 3rd level. Scott had to play some man but it didn’t really hurt us much and he did it with safety help over the top. If we don’t use Scott in man-coverage there who do we use?

by Nickel Rover on Oct 22, 2025 5:50 AM CDT reply actions  

NR,

Impressive write up, I think we all need to give Diaz a chance to catch up on the learning curve. Not many DC’s have seen the B12 offenses with elite athletes that OU and OSU have.

I agree that he seems to be getting better, hopefully, after going through the B12 batting order this year it will bear fruit next year in better schemes, preperation and performance.

by VA Horn on Oct 22, 2025 6:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Diaz is adjusting to a new environment at the same time the players are trying to adapt to him. I would also say that while someone like Nick Saban has a fully developed defense perhaps Manny Diaz is still tinkering with his ultimate construct. That might be frightening on some level, but it can also be an exciting prospect to witness growth. I suppose it remains in doubt whether the end product will be eye catching for its horror or delight, but there’s certainly intrigue in many corners.

“Can either play coverage like Robinson?”

Nickel Rover,

I believe that will fall to Cobbs, but we’ll see. Good post. Appreciate it.

by Saul on Oct 22, 2025 7:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey nickel …. good stuff as usual
the most amazing thing for me is that you, jesus, vash, longhorn scott, and probably most of you cats come from a nerd, geek, statistical and or financial background but have an uncanny grasp of the strategies involved in football..
I guess you could say the modern coach could well come from a diaz mold… no organized football, no coaching including first professional job but great organizational skills and ability to teach/motivate…
I think someone needs to herd all you cats into a room with some video equipment and comment to making some training videos for players as well as coaches…
keep the good stuff coming and oh, by the way…… Texas vs Washington in the

Cotton Bowl to finish this year and set up next year for a top BCS Bowl game prior to a National Championship game against Florida State) after

by jet on Oct 22, 2025 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

We win the 2014/15 championship.
Harsin becomes head coach.
Applewhite named OF
Mack moves to front office.
DeLoss takes grandkids fishing and starts collecting retirement pension

by jet on Oct 22, 2025 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice centerline wheels on the 55 stepside, tx

by jet on Oct 22, 2025 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Mack moves to front office.

Aaaaakkk! How about Mack moves to Tennessee instead? Visions of Cleve and FatDog, Greg and friends in burnt orange La-Z-Boys.

by Fong the Merciless on Oct 22, 2025 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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