Colt McCoy Could Be Traded As Soon As Today
by srr50 on Apr 27, 2025 8:41 AM CDT
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After taking Brandon Weeden in the first round of the NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns all but handed the Oklahoma State QB the starting job.
Browns General Manager Tom Heckert said, "In our opinion, he is (the guy),we took the kid at the 22nd pick of the draft. We're hoping he is."
The Browns indicated that they might move Colt McCoy as soon as today to either move up to the top of the 2nd round or gather more draft picks.
McCoy is 6-15 as a starter for the Browns after being thrown into the starting lineup as a rookie because of injuries.
McCoy was drafted in the third round in 2010. McCoy is listed at 6-1 and 215 pounds, while Weeden is 6-3, 220. Weeden's arm strength is considered to be better. Weeden will be 29 by opening day, but the Browns believe that he still has a "young" body that has not taken the blows most QB's in the league his age, since he spent five years playing minor league baseball.
Colt getting out of Cleveland quickly and getting a new start somewhere else would be the best scenario.
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Good riddance
Best thing that could happen for Colt is to not spend another year in that shitpile of a city.
by Big(g) Ern on Apr 27, 2025 8:50 AM CDT reply actions
Tragedy
Colt’s football career has taken the form of a tragedy. That franchise has screwed him over so hard: Mangini set him up to fail, Holmgren set him up to literally lose his mind, now they stab him in the back.
This could easily be a blessing to get out of that shithole before Clint Eastwood starts gunning people down.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 8:58 AM CDT reply actions
actually for that metaphor
Colt is Morgan Freeman’s lifeless body propped outside the whorehouse in a coffin with a sign warning future QB’s of their peril.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty much stating...
What I feared would happen about a month back.
Without much thought about the types of offenses, I’d guess good destinations for quarterbacks right now if injuries or bad play plagues the starter:
Arizona, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Houston, and Minnesota.
Now whether any of those would be willing to trade Cleveland anything for Colt right now rather than wait for him to be cut, I don’t know.
by Saul! on Apr 27, 2025 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Realistically...
…is there even anywhere for Cleveland to trade him to? Every team in the league has its high-priced veteran or promising youngster entrenched as the starter. Why would any team want to trade a relatively high draft pick for McCoy?
Cleveland seems ultimately better served to hang onto McCoy and have a “legitimate” competition going into the fall. McCoy is then a hedge in case Weeden flops, or could be used as trade bait if/when another team’s quarterback fails or gets injured.
No matter what the outcome, McCoy is getting a Tebow-esque shaft for sure.
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by jc25 on Apr 27, 2025 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
You're probably right
About Cleveland being best served in holding onto both. Scary given that the only scenario I see being played out is coupled with failure for either guy who gets thrown in there. [fingers crossed for a trade]
by KVs Sleeves on Apr 27, 2025 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
The best situation for Colt is if he stays in Cleveland and wins the job...
…at least short term. Cleveland is his best opportunity to start next year.
by Amen Amachigh on Apr 27, 2025 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
starting next year
is far less important to Colt’s long term success than being with a franchise that isn’t run by baboons.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure about that...
There are no guarantees that Colt gets another shot to start with another franchise….how many truly open QB competitions are there in the NFL on a year to year basis?
by Amen Amachigh on Apr 27, 2025 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Players get injured
back-ups shine and are traded for or signed, teams change their QB all the time, I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
For many QB’s, the best possible scenario is to practice hard and learn for years before taking over, like: Brady, Romo, Rogers, etc.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
What I mean is that Cleveland is Colt's best shot to be a franchise QB...
Those guys that you mentioned were drafted by organizations with clear plans to let those guys sit and learn…the plan was to groom them all along, at least for Brady and Rogers. Most guys who start as a rookie and don’t become the franchise QB for their original team, don’t go on to be a franchise QB for another team. Drew Brees is the only guy I can think of who that worked out for…and I’m not sure that he started a game for the Chargers his rookie season.
If he leaves now, he’ll be going from team to team, hoping to get to be some team’s 1-2 season stop gap before getting replaced by the next young college arm. It’s hard to get another shot at a team being built around you once there is already a whole season of NFL film on you….
I think the best case scenario for Colt to be a franchise QB is to stay at Cleveland, win the job this offseason/training camp, and do well this year.
by Amen Amachigh on Apr 27, 2025 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this
How many other teams around the league believe he can be a franchise QB? My guess is 0. Even if he’s the backup and gets in a few games at wherever he lands, he’s still going to be thought of as the backup. The only player I recall busting as a starter, going to be a backup elsewhere, getting an opportunity and then becoming the guy was Tommy Maddox at Pittsburgh (and he wasn’t the guy for very long). He’s much better off trying to be Drew Brees in 2004. Win the job, play well, and become a franchise QB. It’s a thin needle to thread, but that’s where his career is right now.
by DoubleB on Apr 27, 2025 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Clearly
He’s considered the backup in cleveland now, and not the franchise QB. His best chance is to land a back-up job on a team that actually knows how to set up QB’s for success, and then take advantage of any and every opportunity he has to play.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What’s his goal here? If he wants to become a journeyman and hang around the league for 10-12 years, then leaving is the right move. Prove yourself as a good organizational player for a 2nd team and move around the league as a clipboard guy who might win you a few games if needed.
If he wants to be a long-term starting QB, then staying in Cleveland is his best option. He has the best chance to start in Cleveland Week 1 than anywhere else in 2012. You seem to be arguing he can back someone up for a few years and await his shot in 2014 or 2015. I don’t think he’ll ever get a “legitimate” shot to start again in the NFL if he leaves. He was a 3rd round pick with limited tools and upside who has a season and a half of game film on him.
by DoubleB on Apr 27, 2025 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Cleveland is obviously moving on
and you seem to regard holding the no. 1 spot on the depth chart as the highest value. It’s not, if I were a QB I’d rather be a backup on a good team with a chance to start down the line.
Cleveland has not given Colt the time of day, nor have they protected his health. It’s a terrible situation to try and be the QB/fall guy in.
And QB’s with “season and a half of game film” get additional starting opportunities all the time. If he flashed in opportunities as a backup he could get a chance. If not, he’ll still be better off than ruining his mind and legacy trying to carry the Browns.
Assuming that the Browns even intend to keep him, which it seems they do not.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not... you are correct.
But it sure seems a waste to have him sit behind someone when he could be helping (and doing well) at another location.
The Browns are doomed to suck forever. Or at least until they get a new owner.
His best option is clearly to leave.
They have already said that they believe Weeden is the guy. Which…ironically…is what they said about Colt.
I feel for Trent Richardson.
by e1 kabong on Apr 27, 2025 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
“And QB’s with "season and a half of game film" get additional starting opportunities all the time.”
Not 3rd round picks that went 6-15.
“if I were a QB I’d rather be a backup on a good team with a chance to start down the line.”
Do you really think he’s going somewhere that’s going to give a chance to start down the line?
You seem to think he’s a viable long-term starter in the NFL. I don’t. But it’s irrelevant what we think. It’s what those 32 teams think. And from what we can gather, they agree with me. For him to prove them wrong he needs to do it now.
by DoubleB on Apr 27, 2025 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
he can't do it now
that’s the whole point.
Do I think he’s going somewhere that will give him a chance to start down the line? That answer is the same as the question, “Do you think he’s going somewhere that has a mortal playing QB?” The answer is yes, that seems likely.
Teams are still interested in him now (word is that Green Bay is interested) because we don’t really know what he could become yet. He struggled on a terrible team.
I’m not sure if he’ll ever be an All-star player but I do know that his best chance is to get the hell out of cleveland.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Do I think he’s going somewhere that will give him a chance to start down the line? That answer is the same as the question, "Do you think he’s going somewhere that has a mortal playing QB?" The answer is yes, that seems likely.
So Green Bay is going to have an open QB competition between Rodgers and McCoy after McCoy figures it out? He might get a start due to injury, but that’s not the same as an opportunity to win the long-term job.
“Teams are still interested in him now (word is that Green Bay is interested) because we don’t really know what he could become yet.”
They are interested in him because teams want a viable back-up QB with NFL playing experience. Who else is on Green Bay’s roster after Rodgers? He will never compete with Rodgers for the starting QB position in Green Bay.
by DoubleB on Apr 27, 2025 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He will start
if Rogers is injured and he’ll get to audition his development in their offense, ala Matt Flynn.
That’s a both a better gig (back-up on superbowl contender) and a better situation for the future (replace injured Rogers or have chance to earn free agent signing).
But again, I would definitely consider playing a role as a back-up on a champion over taking the beating and frustration of trying to drag a terrible cleveland team. You know, assuming he wasn’t already getting the axe there.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Better gig
for his health, sanity, and future clipboard duty. No question.
Better for his future to be an NFL starter? No. Flynn is only a year older than McCoy and has been in that offense with that coaching for 4 years. Is someone giving McCoy a huge contract at 29 or 30 after his Cleveland days AND provided he actually gets an extended opportunity? If so, it’ll be a first.
by DoubleB on Apr 27, 2025 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
possibly
it’s a better option than staying Cleveland by a long shot, imo.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
McCoy is going to be a backup regardless.
Cleveland has already stated that Weeden is the starter.
by Texas Wahoo on Apr 27, 2025 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
What gives you the idea that this will be an open competition?
The Browns just spent a 1st round draft choice on a 29-year old QB to replace a 3rd round choice — which means they have more money and more pride invested in Weeden before he steps on the field.
Colt McCoy is the defacto backup QB at Cleveland as of today.
by srr50 on Apr 27, 2025 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
So was Drew Brees
in San Diego in 2004. But Rivers held out and Brees kicked ass in both 04 and 05 after having a poor 03 season when he was benched for Doug Flutie.
by DoubleB on Apr 27, 2025 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
True....
If the Browns have decided that Colt is not starting for them, no matter what happens in the offseason and camp, then my argument is pointless and he needs to leave.
by Amen Amachigh on Apr 27, 2025 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Arizona, Oakland, Seattle, or San Diego
They all need better backup QBs. Especially Arizona.
Colt has value and just needs the right offer. Good movement and ability to move the pocket. Decent arm with GREAT accuracy. Experience as a starter.
by STLaw on Apr 27, 2025 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Leinhart and Vince Young say Hi!
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by Snide Aside on Apr 27, 2025 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
PoS organization
Thank god he can finally exit this dumpster fire franchise.
by MR_HORNS on Apr 27, 2025 9:29 AM CDT reply actions
Get him out of there
The Browns’ handling of McCoy has been ridiculous from day 1. His response to it all should tell every other team all they need to know about his character and mental toughness.
by Sasha is a Longhorn Dog on Apr 27, 2025 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Kubiak should trade Jacoby for him and get rid of Leinhart.
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by Snide Aside on Apr 27, 2025 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
That's right - my bad, but they still have Jacoby.
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by Snide Aside on Apr 27, 2025 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
iPhone
If the real problem with the Brown’s organization were anything other than the management, then the Brown’s management might be able to identify it and get it fixed.
by BurntOrangeJuice on Apr 27, 2025 9:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Morris Claiborne
Such an awesome explanation.
The Wonderlic story for Claiborne is a strange one. He claims he scored a four because when he took the test at the Scouting Combine, he found out it had nothing to do with football. He said he filled out 15 or 18 of the 50 answers, then put the test away and didn’t finish. "I came to the Combine for football,‘’ Claiborne said Thursday night, "and I didn’t see any football questions on the test. So I didn’t finish it. That test doesn’t tell me who I am.’’
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by jc25 on Apr 27, 2025 10:10 AM CDT reply actions
Seems like the type of guy that might be disinclined to carry some veteran’s shoulder pads?
by Tackchevy on Apr 27, 2025 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
He's LSU dumb
Not much else needs to be said.
by Scipio Tex on Apr 27, 2025 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Honey badger don't care, Honey Badger don't give a s**t!
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by Snide Aside on Apr 27, 2025 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Question is,
how smart does he need to be to play in the Cowboys defensive system as a corner back, and is he at least that smart?
by BurntOrangeJuice on Apr 27, 2025 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
seems like
he understands his position very, very well. I wouldn’t worry about it.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
As much as I'd like to hold an intellectual elitist attitude over his Wonderlic fiasco,
he is about to get paid millions to play football while I try to manage people who consistently find new and creative ways to be a pain in my ass.
by BurntOrangeJuice on Apr 27, 2025 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
My old boss used to have a saying
We’re so smart…he’s so rich
by nobis60 on Apr 27, 2025 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
For all Les Miles' inanity, I think they run a reasonably sophisiticated defense in Baton Rouge
Never heard anything about the mental aspect being a possible hurdle for Claiborne during the draft process, so I’m not worried about that side of it.
by nobis60 on Apr 27, 2025 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank God
is probably what Colt is thinking. Let’s count the strikes against him while at Cleveland 1) terrible WRs both years 2) no RBs last year 3) No real training camp practice time as a rookie 4) Unable to get the playbook for last year before the season due to the lockout
If I was him I would rather go to a team with a veteran starter and bide my time in a good organization as a backup. Is Dallas an option?
by Monahorns on Apr 27, 2025 10:16 AM CDT reply actions
after paying
Kyle Orton? Not a chance. I don’t see him ending up in Texas.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I forgot
about Kyle Orton. If that hadn’t happened I do think that could have been a good fit for both sides. At least we don’t know for sure that Colt sucks yet.
by Monahorns on Apr 27, 2025 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I would say
that Dallas would want someone with a stronger arm for their system, but they already paid Kyle Orton so that theory doesn’t hold up. Hope he goes somewhere that’ll treat him better than Cleveland.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m not sure the Cowboys have qualified as a “good” organization since Jimmy let.
by f3driver on Apr 27, 2025 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Green Bay is rumored
They were impressed with him and need a back-up with Flynn leaving.
by Eskimohorn on Apr 27, 2025 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
that would be perfect
can’t think of a better fit.
by Nickel Rover on Apr 27, 2025 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be terrific
Play for/learn from a strong offensive mind in McCarthy, make some coin and have the chance to jump in at some point and look like a Matt Flynn-type hero - plus a very good chance to grab a ring in the next season or two.
If Marshall Newhouse doesn’t get better in a damned hurry at LT for the Packers, there’s a very real chance that Rodgers won’t be playing 16 games in 2012.
by nobis60 on Apr 27, 2025 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Rumor picking up steam
That Holmgren has traded McCoy to the Toronto Argonauts for rights to Lawrence Phillips.
by Big(g) Ern on Apr 27, 2025 11:24 AM CDT reply actions
Holgren might me waiting ahwile
Just read an article yesterday about each individual team’s biggest draft flops and of course Phillips was St. Louis’ biggest draft flop. Anyway Phillips is not eligible for parole until 2033.
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by HornsRiverine on Apr 27, 2025 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The Packers are interested in Colt - it gets even colder for him.
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by Snide Aside on Apr 27, 2025 12:43 PM CDT reply actions
I'm sure he'd be thrilled at the prospect of going up against Suh
If Rodgers ever gets hurt or in blowouts. Maybe his new OL would actually gasp help him off the ground after he gets sacked.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 27, 2025 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Raiders, Jets, Seahawks, Or the Bengals (dear god get him back near JS) would all be upgrading...
I dunno, well see how pryor turns out…maybe the raiders wouldn’t.
Sanchez is terrible.
There are plenty of franchises with receivers where Colt would do well.
by e1 kabong on Apr 27, 2025 2:54 PM CDT reply actions
No Jets or Bengals
No room or money for the Jets and the Bengals’ system doesn’t fit Colt’s strengths.
Likely Raiders, Seattle, Arizona, GB, or San Diego
by STLaw on Apr 27, 2025 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you sure about the Bengals? Shipley is there - Colt kinda liked HIM!
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by Snide Aside on Apr 27, 2025 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think about salary caps....
Just whether or not he would be an upgrade to the position.
Ugh. Disgusting to think that in 3 of those places, he’s a backup.
Dear god give him someone to throw to and some sort of protection and the boy will win the world for you.
Raiders would actually be a good fit.
by e1 kabong on Apr 27, 2025 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
think of the smart things Cleveland could do...
and bet on the opposite.
In an era where the numbers show pretty much indisputably that you do NOT want to overspend and draft a RB too high, they not only failed to hold back at the 4th pick, they actually spent 3 additional draft picks to move ahead of a team that wasn’t going to take him anyway. That’s a total of 4 draft picks to get the one guy.
That doesn’t sound too good, but actually, they were probably just going to waste those picks anyway. For instance…
After taking a good, long look at the huge success NFL teams have had with overage QBs such as Chris Weinke, Drew Henson, and Chad Hutchinson, they blow a first round pick on another in that same line. There is literally no time for Weeden to adjust to the NFL before he begins his inexorable physical decline. It’s not an impossibility, but it’s sure an expensive gamble against tall odds… the kind that only dumb teams make.
I hope they do trade Colt. And I hope a smart team rapes them on the deal… especially since that would mean Colt gets to play on a smart team.
by Pflash on Apr 27, 2025 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
How long does it take most guys to learn to be a good NFL QB? 2-3 seasons, right? Weeden will be in his early 30s by the time this happens.
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by Reggieball on Apr 27, 2025 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol...
which means they are dumping the guy that is about to “click” for a guy that won’t for another 3 years, and then will retire 2 years later.
Irony, thy name is Browns.
by e1 kabong on Apr 27, 2025 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
In their defense....
It IS Trent Richardson. Who, in all likelihood would have overshadowed Mark Ingram the whole time had he not been injured. Dude is a thoroughbred. I don’t like the comparison to AP, but he is almost a sure thing.
However…for what they traded to get him, they would have been better off filling in all their gaps.
Weeden was a dumb draft for them. What are they going to do, throw McCoy in as receiver? He would be an upgrade. They are treating a symptom, not the problem (see: Shitty receivers).
by e1 kabong on Apr 27, 2025 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
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