Craig James: SMU Gifts Were Insignificant

So is he like the Crispus Attucks of the SMU cheating scandal then?

Were there any questions at the debate about the allegation that James KILLED FIVE HOOKERS?? No clue if it’s true, still awaiting a firm denial though. I haven’t heard a denial.

Remember the Five!

If he weren’t an aspiring politician, his arrogance and hypocrisy would be stunning.

Given the tenor of the times, CJames, you should have held out longer. You’re not a very good negotiatior.

 “Little” gifts is not the reason SMU received the Death Penalty.

apparently “killed” is blocked by google, but i think a slight change might be able to overcome this like maybe if we found that craig james raped waterboys at smu or some other such probable occurance

http://www.frogsowar.com/2011/9/16/2430293/important-things-to-remember-come-election-time

$20 my ass! You know he was getting more than a Twomp

I get physically ill any time I see either one of these guys. Showing them together in not only one, but two photos, has completely turned my stomach. Thanks for that. I appreciate it.

I was disgusted when they were recognized this past year (by the Doak Walker board?) and engaged former SMU alumni on a DMN site. They’re still in denial. I told them my dad had a degree from there (along with UT) and I would actually have liked to like SMU, but those guys did such a disservice to the university that alumni ought to see them as pariahs instead of idolizing them. There was a short time when SMU was public enemy #1 and THE most despised rival.

Look on the bright side. If we start a write-in campaign for Mickey Mouse, then we can be fairly certain that for the rest of his life, James can be referenced as “the failed Senate candidate who received less votes than Mickey Mouse in the primary.”

You have to admit, that’s one hell of a bright side.

Setting aside the fact that Craig James has never denied that he killed three hookers at SMU, does anyone know anyone that actually supports his candidacy?

That’s not a political question. I seriously don’t know anyone.

Exactly. M I C… K E Y…

$20 in 1982 = $45 today. Five handshakes per game = $225 per game. Not bad pay for a college kid in 1982.

Only problem is James’s amnesia about the actual amounts and their freguency - they were much higher and were paid on a regular basis.

He is an undereducated, underachieving admitted cheater. He is a perfect candidate for US Senate and will make the likes of former senators John Edwards and John Ensign proud.

I know how he is perceived on this site, and how I perceive him, but how does the public at large perceive him? Given what the people of Texas have elected, and re-elected, in recent years, I have low expectations for the probity of the Texas electorate.

but how does the public at large perceive him?

The poor man’s Robert Culp?

I think I get this. SMU went from being worse than Baylor to the best team in the nation overnight with the James/Dickerson class. Then once they were on top the payments started a few years later. Got it.

During that time I was in business with a SMU alum who was very “involved” with SMU football. Some of my recollections of info he passed along:
Craig James wanted to go to SMU because his girlfriend was already enrolled there. He was so naive he wasn’t sure he would be offered a schollie. Once he was there & realized the payroll system he got on board.
Dickerson went to the highest bidder. He did drive a TransAM provided by A&M because they weren’t smart enough to wait until after signing day to give it to him. Dickerson referred to himself as “The Dick” or “Big Dick”. He & a defensive tackle were the most demanding & outspoken about being paid.They actually threatened to “boycott” if they didn’t get what they wanted.
The funniest story I remember involved a game against Rice in Houston. The SMU track coach, Ted something, was in town to raise money around before the football game. He raised $10,000 or $12,000 before the game in cash. He was convinced, perhaps by my partner, I can’t remember who, to bet it all on the Ponies who were large, maybe 27 point favorites. Late in the game SMU is up enough to cover & the starters are on the bench, many out of their pads. Rice scores & gets the ball back & is driving. If Rice scores either SMU doesn’t cover or it’s too close for confort so Ted The Track Coach sends a message to Ron Meyer, the first string defense repads, enters the game, stuffs Rice & we’re none the wiser & all is well in the track program. Crazy times.

Has anyone heard that CRAIG JAMES TO ENTER PENN STATE HALL OF FAME FOR ABUSE OF NON-STUDENTS?

As for the politics… this is big boy school. A US Senate race is no place for an amateur. Both Dewhurst and Cruz are going to kill him. And it won’t be pretty.

It has occurred to me that perhaps ESPN “encouraged” James to enter the political ring. That way they can get rid of him without admitting that the messy “Leach-James Fight” -(and their part in it) - had anything to do with it.

I anxiously await James’ campaign finance report to see just how many ESPN execs are “contributors.”

Compared to what he hopes to extract from lobbyists, I’m sure they were insignificant.

Mike Leach: “Oh. In that case, sure I put the James kid in a dark room for a while. But the time he spent in there was not significant, so it’s fine.”

I suppose he thought the lives of those five working girls were “insignificant” as well.

Best conspiracy theory I’ve heard is that he realizes he has no shot, but is doing this to gain the publicity/street cred to make a career shift from ESPN to an MSNBC/FOX News type political commentary and hosting career. Eliot Spitzer had a show despite paying hookers, so I would think James’ murdering of five shouldn’t be a significant impediment in that arena.

To srr50’s point, he may well have been ‘encouraged’ to make such a career shift from ESPN higher-ups.

How on earth does Craig James consider the lives of five hookers to be an insignificant gift?

The move from early 80’s SMU football to politics is almost lyrical . . . From Pony to Phony.

James isn’t going to extract any money from lobbyists. the lobby money is all committed to Dewhurst. much like the Perry situation, the lobby can’t afford to bet on another horse…because even if their other horse wins they still have to deal with the incumbent in office.

I’ve said all along that James will be lucky to come in 4th. I think it’s an extremely curious race for a political novice to jump into, particularly given the competition that is already present. An even bigger head scratcher, given these facts, was James’s decision to wait as long as he did to get into the race. Sure he’s a “public figure.” But he certainly is not a beloved or iconic public figure, like Nolan Ryan or Lance Armstrong.

Moreover, James doesn’t appear to be selling ANYTHING at this point. his campaign rhetoric sounds like Republican talking points from several years ago. Cruz will easily outflank him on the right. And though he hasn’t actually been elected to anything in his life, I’d argue he’s got more skins on the wall than James.

Running against Dewhurst is just a joke. the Dew could self-finance if he wanted to, but he doesn’t have to because he’s getting money from everyone already. AND he’s been elected to multiple statewide offices. AND he’s from Htown.

Even Leppert is a better candidate than James. Actual business and political experience. In sum, I’m not sure why James is even in the race. Perhaps to build brand ID…although I’ve never really been a huge fan of building brand ID thru losing an election. With his financial resources, he should’ve picked a nice House seat and moved to that district if he really wanted to start a political career.

Also worth mentioning — while I don’t expect ANY of the candidates to really even acknowledge that James is in the race, if they wanted to, I think they could absolutely have a field day with the Leach incident. While James’s predictable comeback would probably be “I just did what any Father would do,” I get the sense that most Texans feel Leach got hosed and that James is to blame. But again, this likely won’t even come up because James is NOT a viable candidate.

“We have to … restore our boldness.”

Craig James focuses on restoring our boldness. Is that really what America needs? Restored boldness? I’m of the exact opposite opinion: instead of boldness, we need to restore our drinkability and clean finish. And it would be nice if, in the process, our politicians in D.C. would taste great and be less filling. Alas, as long as we’re saddled with a two-party system, we’ll never attain the triple-hops brewing that hard-working Americans deserve.

Discussion of politics will only be allowed if they are discussed in terms of hoppyosity.

Que es Hoppyosity? I’m still not satisfied that we have a good total of dead hookers that James may or may not have killed whilst accepting minimal gifts from $MU boosters. Did they pay to have the hookers disposed of? The Shapiro guy at Miami paid for abortions. Was Dickerson involved? Quen sabe.

hoppyosity, n.

Self-conscious display of (esp. inflated) knowledge concerning Hopalong Cassidy’s relation to the Pony Express. Also: an instance of this.

Silver jeep. Don’t know if folks paid for it.

The rumor I was hearing at the time was he got a piece of Forest Lane Porsche Audi. That was the number one Porsche dealership in the nation at that time. Probably easy enough to prove if someone were motivated.

Don’t even remember where I heard it but if you lived in Dallas the SMU stuff was very much an open secret at the time.

I heard he killed five call girls and liked it.

If a man in college kills 5 hookers and no one is there to hear it or see it, can he still run for the Senate?

Apparently, there’s a one girl bag-limit to successfully run for Senate.