Week 8 Lines
The second week of the ratings vs. point spreads for this season was a wash. The ratings went 25-25-0 against the spread. Season to date:
| Confidence | Record |
|---|---|
| Overall | 58-42-2 |
| 14+ | 7-2-0 |
| 10+ | 5-7-1 |
| 7+ | 11-10-0 |
| 35-23-1 |
This week's lines:
| Line | Pick | Conf |
|---|---|---|
| Arkansas +9 @ Kentucky | Kentucky | 14.53 |
| Miami (FL) -4.5 @ Duke | Duke | 14.05 |
| Michigan +23.5 @ Penn St. | Penn St. | 13.37 |
| Missouri +6 @ Texas | Texas | 12.31 |
| Wake Forest -1.5 @ Maryland | Wake Forest | 10.32 |
| LSU -3 @ South Carolina | South Carolina | 9.58 |
| Ohio St. -3 @ Michigan St. | Michigan St. | 9.30 |
| Baylor +16.5 @ Oklahoma St. | Oklahoma St. | 8.77 |
| Connecticut pk @ Rutgers | Connecticut | 8.13 |
| BYU pk @ TCU | TCU | 8.12 |
| Pittsburgh -3 @ Navy | Navy | 7.85 |
| Army +11.5 @ Buffalo | Buffalo | 7.81 |
| Akron -3.5 @ Eastern Michigan | Akron | 7.69 |
| Miami (OH) +9.5 @ Bowling Green | Bowling Green | 7.43 |
| Kansas +20 @ Oklahoma | Oklahoma | 7.27 |
| Purdue +4 @ Northwestern | Northwestern | 7.07 |
| Wisconsin +3.5 @ Iowa | Iowa | 6.13 |
| Houston -12.5 @ SMU | Houston | 5.60 |
| Stanford +2 @ UCLA | Stanford | 5.29 |
| Hawaii +24.5 @ Boise St. | Hawaii | 5.25 |
| Nebraska -7 @ Iowa St. | Nebraska | 4.56 |
| North Texas +18.5 @ Louisiana-Monroe | Louisiana-Monroe | 4.52 |
| Air Force -4.5 @ UNLV | Air Force | 4.37 |
| Texas Tech -20.5 @ Texas A&M; | Texas Tech | 3.55 |
| Idaho +20.5 @ Louisiana Tech | Lousiana Tech | 3.28 |
| Georgia Tech -2 @ Clemson | Georgia Tech | 3.28 |
| Middle Tennessee St. +14.5 @ Louisville | Middle Tennessee St. | 3.27 |
| Western Michigan +2.5 @ Central Michigan | Western Michigan | 3.17 |
| Indiana +15 @ Illinois | Indiana | 2.86 |
| Southern Miss +3 @ Rice | Rice | 2.80 |
| Vanderbilt +15 @ Georgia | Vanderbilt | 2.78 |
| San Jose St. -2.5 @ New Mexico St. | New Mexico St. | 2.48 |
| Colorado St. +21.5 @ Utah | Colorado St. | 2.48 |
| Syracuse +24 @ South Florida | Syracuse | 2.44 |
| Southern Cal -42.5 @ Washington St. | Washington St. | 2.40 |
| Mississippi +13 @ Alabama | Alabama | 2.30 |
| California -2.5 @ Arizona | Arizona | 2.01 |
| San Diego St. +14.5 @ New Mexico | San Diego St. | 1.68 |
| Toledo +7.5 @ Northern Illinois | Northern Illinois | 1.53 |
| UTEP +17.5 @ Tulsa | Tulsa | 1.47 |
| Florida St. -10.5 @ North Carolina St. | North Carolina St. | 1.39 |
| Kansas St. +3.5 @ Colorado | Kansas St. | 1.18 |
| Arkansas St. +3.5 @ Louisiana-Lafayette | Arkansas St. | 1.12 |
| Virginia Tech +2.5 @ Boston College | Boston College | 1.07 |
| Oregon St. -13.5 @ Washington | Oregon St. | 1.04 |
| Florida International +8 @ Troy | Florida International | 0.89 |
| Memphis +8.5 @ East Carolina | East Carolina | 0.75 |
| Marshall -2.5 @ UAB | UAB | 0.55 |
| North Carolina -5 @ Virginia | North Carolina | 0.42 |
| Mississippi St. +7.5 @ Tennessee | Tennessee | 0.40 |
| Utah St. +21 @ Nevada | Nevada | 0.23 |
| Florida Atlantic +1 @ Western Kentucky | Florida Atlantic | 0.13 |
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The record against the spread is only relevant to gamblers. As a non-gambling college football fan, I’m more interested in how your ratings fared straight-up. I know they miscalculated on the Texas-OU result, but how did they fare otherwise?
by BrickHorn on Oct 15, 2025 9:56 AM CDT reply actions
It’ll take a little bit but I can backcheck later.
by Huckleberry on Oct 15, 2025 10:05 AM CDT reply actions
Just FYI, my simplistic model is predicting another toss-up against Missouri. Of course, it doesn’t account for home/away or quality of opponents. And it does not weight recent games more heavily than early games. All of these factors favor Texas, so a properly adjusted model should predict a Texas win.
by BrickHorn on Oct 15, 2025 10:13 AM CDT reply actions
Forget about the computers. The way I see it, if Mizzou outscores Texas, Mizzou will pull off the big win in Austin. But if Texas outscores Mizzou, look out! - because the Longhorns will stampede their way to another victory.
by Lee Corso on Oct 15, 2025 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
Huck, is there a correlation between the success of your ratings and the number of games played? In other words, do your ratings peform better earlier in the year and then tail off down the road indicating sharper lines?
by Trips Right on Oct 15, 2025 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
That Duke/Miami line just feels dirty. This definitely ain’t 2001.
OU pummels Kansas at home.
I agree on the Penn State line as well. Michigan is going into early hibernation.
by Vasherized on Oct 15, 2025 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
Trips -
They stay pretty consistent when you consider the confidence numbers. Obviously later in the year there are very few picks with high confidence values (and lots of those are because of injuries, etc. that the ratings can’t take into account).
The 35-23 record in the low confidence range so far is flukey. Typically those have been in the 52% range. Not enough to make money after the vig. I would normally expect a 30-28 record over 58 outcomes.
by Huckleberry on Oct 15, 2025 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
Huck,
So what other factors do you take into account in determining which games to actually bet on? Or is this just your own little petri dish a la Vegas that you experiment with for fun?
by Vasherized on Oct 15, 2025 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
I just use it as an objective input. I start at the top of the list and then decide if there’s any good reason not to bet that way. I usually stay away from huge lines for lots of reasons, and I also don’t think that the ratings method does that well with huge lines. Obviously true team strength becomes less of an issue in a blowout as the leading team goes into clock mode with backups.
But I don’t bet that often.
by Huckleberry on Oct 15, 2025 2:06 PM CDT reply actions
Okay, here are some tables with the performances for the ratings so far. The first three tables are for predictive performance beginning once the ratings had a reasonable amount of data. The final table is retrodictive, meaning that it takes the current ratings and applies them back over games already played to see how they perform. The left-hand column, of course, shows the predicted margin of victory for a team. These are not based on point spreads, just wins and losses and includes all college football games, not just D-1A.
10/4 Weekend W L WPCT Overall 249 82 0.752 21+ 87 5 0.946 14+ 48 9 0.842 7+ 60 31 0.659 <7 54 37 0.593 10/11 Weekend W L WPCT Overall 254 78 0.765 21+ 71 6 0.922 14+ 61 8 0.886 7+ 66 22 0.747 <7 56 42 0.571
Season Totals
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Retrodictive
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by Huckleberry on Oct 16, 2025 12:23 PM CDT reply actions

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