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Erik Huhn: Scouting 2013 Texas Longhorns Commitment #15

There's nothing more amusing than the unease induced on the Longhorn interweb by the commitment of a relatively unknown 3 star defensive back recruit (unknown at least to most Longhorn fans), particularly when that recruit's iPod is filled with Coldplay, and DVR is filled with 30 Rock. I'm speaking code!

Scipio does not like the blue-eyed devil in his defensive backfield any more than the next virulent racist; however, in the interest of fairness, John Lynch, Jim Leonhard, and Eric Weddle, it's probably useful to do some stuff like learn about the recruit, watch his film, and actually evaluate the take before spraying the internet with arcing streams of reactionary wee-wee.

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Huhn battles the reactionary bias against white DBs, aka Gideonism. I won't argue against that because that's arguing against emotion and projection, which if I want to indulge, I'll just question my girlfriend's shoe purchases. The more legitimate concern for me is that he plays for an outstanding "program school" that - like a Lake Travis or Katy - plays dominant high school football by virtue of scheme, continuity, and maxing out 17 years olds to pummel less coached-up peers. Sometimes those guys plateau quickly. And yes, I know Steele has better baseline talent than those programs, but they're not exactly LaMarque, either.

He also battles the Longhorn fan's tendency to believe that anyone he is not familiar with must be marginal. Huhn's best offers were TCU, OU, Nebraska, and Georgia. Not shabby. Agreement from TCU and OU on a prospect always gets my attention, largely because of their aptitude in assessing translatable characteristics for position switches. So much of evaluation is definitional - Huhn is a bigger athlete as a junior playing safety than Peter Jinkens was playing linebacker as a senior. You do the math.

The other level of inference about suitability is his 40 time, which appears to be in the legit 4.5/4.6 area, but straight line speed isn't range, range is what matters, and that's what the game tape is for.

Finally, Duane Akina worked him out in the spring and summer, the other coaches had their chance to call BS, and they all thought he moved well enough to play for Texas. Presumably, almost none of that workout had him sitting in two deep coverage.

Actual

Beyond the exciting world of inference, you can actually watch Huhn play football. LOOK AT THE GAME TAPE!


Huhn's film is available on Hudl or in a more condensed version on HornsNation.

Huhn plays for Cibolo Steele largely as a two deep safety defending the pass as a center fielder and supporting against the run with quality violence. In run support, Huhn does a nice job of closing on the ball and arrives in good tackling position. Unlike some hitters, Huhn makes the sure tackle as adeptly as the kill shot. I was most impressed when a play strung out wide and he shows good lateral movement followed by the ability to plant and accelerate through the tackle. Most athletes struggle to recover from that angle. Very WLB. Clearly, Huhn has no problem with contact.

In coverage, he's playing a lot of zone and off man coverage. Huhn catches some easy fly balls, but he also has a couple of nice breaks on outside routes that show some range and anticipation. He also catches well, which is refreshing. His side-to-side is just OK - we won't confuse him with Earl Thomas getting to the post corner - but I like his ability to eat up ground quickly and decisively when opponents throw in front of him. In that respect, he reminded me a bit of former Longhorn safety Lee Jackson. Plenty of instincts, loves to mix it up.

Projecting the 6-2, 205 pound kid who loves to hit and runs pretty well is a perilous business (and along with the 6-1, 225 pound fullback, apparently the basis of TCU's entire football program). Some athletes maintain their athleticism while adding 30 pounds of muscle (see former whippet Keenan Robinson), others keep getting more athletic and stay in the same range, but the bulk of them remain as tweeners: not quite fluid enough for safety, not quite big enough for linebacker. However, spread offenses and mutant TEs give still give that athlete some value. The 6-2, 220 WLB/blitz nickel who plays bigger than his size and runs well is a nice tool to have.

Huhn's commitment is also indicative of the Longhorn coaching staff's perspective on in-state DB talent. I suspect we have two more scholarships to give and our preferred candidates lives outside the Lone Star State.

Welcome to the 40, Erik.

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that maybe the biggest issue. There are not many Earl Thomas’s playing saftey, but any S coming to the 40 will be compared to him. Not to mention Ed reed is more of a 4.6 guy and his pro career dwarfs Earl’s. His frame and 40 time are pretty identical to Vaccarro, who is a favorite here. His frame and 40 time are identical to Marcel Harris. In the end he is fast enough to play either LB or S. He is clearly a football player. Odd to say this, but this staff seems to have a higher affinity for football players with speed, opposed to athletes playing football. Very versatile pick-up.

by codaxx on Jun 4, 2025 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess my point is that I don't really care about his 40 time

Unless it’s a 4.75 or something alarming. How he moves to side-to-side and his ability to be instinctively decisive - which is what makes Ed Reed, well, Ed Reed - is my interest. I’ve seen multiple people drop Kenny Vaccaro, but Kenny V is special because he has the ability to man up on WRs and turn his hips like a cornerback at 215 pounds. I don’t see that in Huhn, but I also wasn’t privvy to watching Akina put him through his paces.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly

it very hard to get a great feel on the highlights. All you see is the kid coming in and making plays. Very hard to see if his hips move on a swivel. Really need a larger view to see his change of direction. I dont have the access to a lot of film that you are privy to

by codaxx on Jun 4, 2025 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

I’d love to see him as a senior locking up a slot receiver or playing near the LOS occasionally.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I completely agree on 40 time

If you can run a legit 4.5 you can stay with anyone within the confines of the football field. Particularly at safety where you aren’t matched up with the number one WR. How many teams will Texas see where the third or fourth WR will be a 4.3 guy? If you’re lined up 10-15 yards deep, it should be a really rare thing to get smoked if you have any degree of football understanding Akina is pretty damn good at providing that type of understanding.

While Akina did have a few misses (and by misses lets get real, we’re not talking GD level misses here) I’ll take his record as a position coach over every other guy on our staff. I don’t think its even close. DLine has had some studs consistently, but we’ve also had some pretty big holes and iffy depth at times.

And like you said, worst case spinning down a 6-2 safety to will is a lot different then spinning down OL to academic scholarship.

by texitect on Jun 4, 2025 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since learning of this kid's existence

about 3 hours ago, it seems like his descriptions read much like Kenny V’s coming out of high school. Fair comparison or way off the mark?

by ophorn on Jun 4, 2025 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

I guess I’m just not remembering Kenny V. being known for being able to man up WR’s right out of high school. I thought this was a concern that was addressed/developed under Akina’s tutelage.

by ophorn on Jun 4, 2025 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kenny wasn't and Kenny wasn't exactly an offer

that had people doing backflips over he was offered a few years back. I am sure there will be some who will happily claim they knew the guy would turn into the player he has become, but outside of Duane and Kenny I am not sure too many people saw him having the coverage ability he showed last year.

I also stand by the point that Manny at Mississippi State and I believe going forward at Texas will use one more traditional safety on the field than we saw under the old thought of having four corners on the field.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw that

that seems to be one of his faster times. Interweb had him ~4.5.. I only used Vaccaro as a reference, becasue so many have jumped on the speed angle. I do not think people are aware of how rare a 4.4 saftey really is..

by codaxx on Jun 4, 2025 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right on.

Average NFL safety runs 4.5ish. There are plenty of veterans who are mid 4.6s. But they play fast because they’ve seen every play an offense can run one billion times and the time between their recognition and attack is instant.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's Craig Loston?

oh… second string @ LSU.

Saw Groundhog wanting him over KV in the link…. kinda funny. jhf.

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by Dustin Brockelman on Jun 4, 2025 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was on record being pretty excited about Kenny

I’m also on record lauding Garrett Gilbert in high school. So, umm, you know.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have been a big advocate of his all along Scipio

and besides you how many people were as excited about him. I remember you talking about his ability as a power lifter for one thing.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Vacarro switch?

Was he a commit to A&M or OU before committing to us? I recall the doubts about Machete. I can’t say I disagreed or agreed. I learned after all the hyperventilating about recruiting in the early 2000s to just wait and see. Back then, I used to feel sorry for the juniors and seniors because they would surely be on the bench after the incoming freshmen had a few weeks on the team.

That was also back when we thought the offense would be unstoppable every year under the rule of “pick your poison.” I’m glad most of us have matured from those days. Being hung up and skinned alive a couple of times in the Cotton Bowl surely ages a man.

by RomaVicta on Jun 4, 2025 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't believe so
Was he a commit to A&M or OU before committing to us?

If my memory is correct, I remember quite a bit of the doubts revolving around off-the-field issues and his unexpected change to a different school.

by Horncasting on Jun 5, 2025 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I trolled on CCM about how GG was going to make Texas dynastically good and send OU into two decades of recruiting inferiority and competitive irrelevance.

One of the great shames of my internet life.

by Tackchevy on Jun 4, 2025 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice write-up

At the very least, he will be a special teams stand out. I am comfortable with Akina’s evaluation of talent - and completely agree that the TCU and OU offers lend validity to what the staff saw at camp.

by Big(g) Ern on Jun 4, 2025 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Akina has had a bad spell in DB evals

And those chickens came home to roost in 2007/2008. The difference is that he has a number of good ones, too. Vaccaro, Huff and, IMO, Colbert. Recruiting good DBs in the state of Texas isn’t exactly challenging, but you have to make the right calls. Generally, Akina has done that. And once they’re here, he sure as hell maximizes them.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he throws some Lil' Wayne on his iPod,

I’ll get behind this take.

Some tats and a gangsta lean would be nice, too.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jun 4, 2025 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay, okay.

I had a second to watch the film and I like his aggression. He gets there in a hurry to. Couldn’t tell much about agility, but I’m sure Akina saw enough to make him good.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jun 4, 2025 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's

a 6-2 white guy who runs a 4.5 and has good hands, shouldn’t he be playing wr?

by ninjarobotpirat on Jun 4, 2025 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

TE

isnt that always the default position

by codaxx on Jun 4, 2025 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

or

fullback

by Nickel Rover on Jun 4, 2025 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said it my OU eval

but what’s encouraging me is that we’re not only competing (and winning mostly) against OU for high profile dudes, but we’re taking some of the typical OU 3 star dudes too. Previously, we were taking some players that OU didn’t even consider recruitable within their model. I’m less apt to dismiss Huhn precisely because OU and TCU were both into him. That may be inferential and non-scientific on my part, but it makes me feel better.

Thanks for contributing here, Jordan. We’ve attracted a bunch of good Sooner contributors here over the years and it makes me happy. Just know that we’ll be less civil around the time of the Red River Shootout. ;)

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd expect nothing less :)
Just know that we’ll be less civil around the time of the Red River Shootout. ;)

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by Jordan Esco on Jun 4, 2025 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

It sounds like OU's approach to recruiting Texas of late

is quite similar to Texas’s approach to, say, Louisiana. If there’s some connection to the university or the kid is in the far north part of the state, have a stab at it. Otherwise, recruiting the kid is probably just wasted effort - not worth the time. Just thought that was interesting, and from the point of view of a Texas fan, a very welcome shift!

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by Andrew Wiggin on Jun 4, 2025 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question

It seems this kid must have killed it on Sunday. He went from unknown to #15 pretty damn fast. I would love to know what this kid did..

by codaxx on Jun 4, 2025 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Players like Huhn this year and

Orlando Thomas last year just point to what I have contended all along and that there is just too much talent in this state to accurately come up with a truly accurate list.

Yes, guys like RS-J might be a no brainer, but the reason they are is that they are rare and the true strength of a program is shifting through the rest of the talent and finding the players who you believe can fit into your systems.

Manny has said he doesn’t care about schemes or alignments, but instead find guys like these along with Santos that don’t truly fit, but can run-are physical- and can give him the ability to look like “Texas is playing with 14 players on the field”.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee Jackson?

Didn’t he sort of morph in to a LB later in his career?

by Sailor Ripley on Jun 4, 2025 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Went from 2nd leading tackler on the team as a freshman

to not making the tackle chart 2 years later to being 5th or 6th on the team as a linebacker his final season in 2002.

At least he had acting to fall back upon.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember some injuries.

And I remember thinking he was a bad ass as a Frosh.

by Sailor Ripley on Jun 4, 2025 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He seemed to have trouble staying healthy after that first season when he

looked like he was headed for big things. I don’t remember all the details, but seem to recall him starting the last third to half of his senior season at linebacker.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this was a smart strategic move by the coaching staff.

In light of the Justin Blackmon news, they were proactive and moved fast.

And offered a guy who’d be able to hail a cab.

by CMDR on Jun 4, 2025 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Ha ha.

That was solid.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Worry

Have seen him play numerous times. Kid is a baller. Athletic, very smart. Always at right place, right time. Love the way he fends off blocks. He will not be overrunning plays and making arm tackles like the infamous #21.

http://www.minerrush.com/2010/8/10/1613662/no-9-the-ball-hawk-cibolo-steele

SBNation article on his older brother Shane who signed with UTEP in ’11. Thought he should have received more offers.

by torre on Jun 4, 2025 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

The good instinct seems key. It doesn’t matter if he runs a 4.3; if the angle is horrible, he’ll likely miss / get a targeting penalty.

by Tackchevy on Jun 4, 2025 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

don't know how much you feel like...

dippin into the ‘crootin side of it scip & co. but what’s your reaction to us taking this guy when there are still players on the board that we’re recruiting that are better than he is in a class that is relatively small.

also, if he is an LB/hybrid/whatever i’d assume we’re done there for the year with davis and hughes in the fold. right?

by mattw on Jun 4, 2025 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Just curious, but how do you know they are better?

If the staff saw him in person and decided to pull the trigger why are the others a better prospect?

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know where we're slotting him.

And this doesn’t really impact the OOS DBs. We were hoping to realistically land 1, 2 max. We can still do that. Right now, I’m not as impressed by guys like Mike Mitchell or Maurice Smith as most so you’d have to tell me who is on your board.

If looking at future LBs, I really like Mineola’s Dac Shaw.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stay away from Shaw!

You bastards can’t have everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trying our best

to pry Patrick Morris away from you as well! Sounds like Searels has been working hard on him.

by Big(g) Ern on Jun 4, 2025 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would you want Morris?

His star rating would kill your average and his is too short to fit among your future giants of the offensive line.

Just leaves scraps like him alone for the poor beggars in Ft. Worth.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure

that vonn bell is better. he’s the best safety this year, imo. that cole luke is a better player, but a different position. i think maurice smith is probably better too. would like to know why you’re down on smith. seems ox strong, corner or s guy.

if this guy comes on and it’s not at the expense of the other guys i’m completely cool w/ it.

by mattw on Jun 4, 2025 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Bell a reality?

The staff has to have a feel for their chances with him and I don’t think they offer Huhn unless they think the kid can play for them.

Luke is a corner and I think Texas has more then enough corners, but don’t have true safeties. Unfortunately, they have a player of two on the roster who I don’t think can play corner and I don’t think can give Manny want he wants at safety.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drew Kelson?

Thought he would be great on the forty acres but that never materializes due to injures and lack of a position. Seems Huhn has similar physical characteristics.

I agree gotta hold offers for Luke, and def. duo of Harris and Bell.

by johnle15 on Jun 4, 2025 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Drew writes here so be polite

Also he may be a great analog.

Drew was certainly a hughly valued contributor that year we hoisted the crystal football.

I can find a photo of him face raping an Ohio State QB causing a fumble and running stride for stride with Reggie Bush and making a pick (nearly).

Because a dude may not be destined to be a 10 year NFL veteran doesn’t mean he won’t be a huge part of a collegiate team’s success.

Most teams comprise a ton of these guys actually - nature of the beast.

by Sailor Ripley on Jun 4, 2025 5:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What's funny is...

I agree with johnie15 on this one a bit. I’ll have a much more detailed breakdown below but Steele took their biggest, most athletic guy (he just so happens to listen to Coldplay, we presume) and put him in a position to fly around and make plays.

by Drew Kelson on Jun 4, 2025 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Scipio does not like . . ."

Bout time you started referring to yourself in the 3rd person

by Texastough on Jun 4, 2025 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

From my experience on xbox 360

you gotta recruit speed on offense and hardhitters on defense. and i won 4 championships in a row

by Harry Garcia on Jun 4, 2025 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

"From my experience on xbox..."

Had I been drinking a soda, I’d have been spewing it out of my nose all over my keyboard after that comment. I HOPE you meant it to be funny!!
Steve

by Stiendam Hall on Jun 5, 2025 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well written, Drew

Much appreciated.

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by kriess on Jun 4, 2025 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great take

I thoroughly enjoyed your whole perspective. Good point on the DL pressure. You see a similar dynamic with Steele’s OL play when you watch 2010 Malcolm Brown high school highlights.

Honestly, the coaching staff has every right to be excited about his ball skills, physicality, play-making ability, instincts, and his obvious desire to be an asshole. You can’t get enough of that on the roster.


The asshole observation is funny and right on.

Unfortunately, Huhn is being compared to a former DB who honestly does not have as much in common with him as a player as people seem to think besides his pigment. Unlike that former DB, Huhn can carry that same fast and physical play to LB and be special.


That’s what frustrates me. I can’t think of a poorer comparison. Huhn has him by 20+ pounds and three inches at the same age and he’s knocking dicks in the dirt. If someone believes he’ll lack the requisite quickness once he’s full grown, that’s fine, but #21 is such a lazy, inapt comparison.

by Scipio Tex on Jun 4, 2025 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice, Drew.

You DID have a nice set-up in HS! Thanks for the insight and for the memories.
Steve

by Stiendam Hall on Jun 5, 2025 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the insights, Drew.

I hope we see more of you around here.

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jun 5, 2025 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Drew,

Did you know that atizzle713 thought you were the best player in the nation?

by BurntOrangeJuice on Jun 5, 2025 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

But, but, but......

he wasn’t at the top of any list. How can he be a quality take if all he has going for him is the confidence of the staff and the words of some guy who happened to play at Texas for the very same coach who offered Huhn.

by davey o'brien on Jun 4, 2025 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

6' 2 , 205 at his age you would think

He would grow into a linebacker. But a big mean fast old school monster-back who Manny could line up anywhere to cause havoc, would be good.

by 55f100tx on Jun 6, 2025 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  


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